Fareed Zakaria: Ten Lessons for the Post-Pandemic World | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

[Applause] he is the host of cnn's fareed zakaria gps and author of the new book ten lessons for a post-pandemic world for read zakaria is over here i i was i was so uh tempted by habit to lunge at you from india this is a perfectly nice substance okay so i read your book in one big gobble it's great great read quick read and also like right out of the day's headlines i mean it's about the pandemic right very gutsy to write a book before the thing is over right and they call it a post-pandemic world well yeah because we see in europe it's the pandemic's coming back in the fall this thing is far from over do you worry about that that you're that something's going to happen that you know be like oh boy i should have waited well i think no i think i've got it about right in the sense of what i'm talking about is we now understand this you know these problems in a way that we didn't because this is not going to be the last pandemic and one of the things i talk about in the book is this should be a wake-up call to realize we've been living in a way that is very risky you know if you think about the way in which we are spewing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and eating the way we eat the failure i talk about the factory farms factory forms are essentially a petri dish yes for the next pandemic you're just going to create larger and larger more powerful viruses the way we subsidize people to live at the edges of forests so you know so i feel as though we've got you know and it's like we're driving the fastest race car in the world and we're like who needs seat belts who needs insurance but but you know that what you're really saying is we need to learn yeah i i don't know if we're the learn species really i mean my question to you is do you i i hate to say this because it sounds so pessimistic but i don't think one is gonna do it in other words one pandemic i don't think we're gonna change after one i think i think we're it's gonna take more than one because people are just going to go oh that was a fluke thank god 2020 is over we're back to normal i don't see less cheeseburgers being eaten well take a look at what hap has happened in east asia you know really these are the countries that have handled the pandemic the best uh south korea singapore hong kong taiwan more than any also the thinnest well but so part of it is yes they don't have the obesity problem which is you're absolutely right a kind of disease multiplier but they all went through sars and mers and they did badly many of them taiwan actually handled it not so well it was a worse and they learned and they learned from it and they revamped their public health systems they just they moved early and aggressively they figured out how to do contact tracing you know so you can learn now here's the tragedy taiwan has handled this better than anyone else in my view 24 million people uh in the country seven deaths you know to give your sense new york state 20 million people right 34 000 deaths now what the taiwanese did was they used they never did a lockdown bill they it was smart contact tracing uh testing you know occasionally very selective closures but they use good technology phones but they used it well all this stuff was invented in america the technology was invented in america the software was invented in america the guy running the taiwan response was educated at johns hopkins so they have taken our secret sauce and we're watching while they're getting it right and we're foundering again i agree with all that but you're mentioning one half of the equation in my view the external part there's the internal part your immune system fighting it internally because viruses are everywhere and you can't avoid them and externally you need to do both they were successful because of both because they're healthier internally and what i object so much about what this country did yes trump of course it up we expect that but the people the the people like dr fauci and those those folks who are the medical assistant they never once had the courage to ask the people to get themselves in better health as the best way to ensure this they're cowards they are cowards they will not ask for that little bit of sacrifice i agree with you but i'll tell you one part of the problem is we have a health care system that is so broken and it is particularly broken for poorer people because i saw a really interesting study which pointed out that you know germans were a lot healthier than americans and even though germans are very rich and they have you know they they have a diet that is not completely ideal the big difference was in germany your annual visit to the doctor is free because you know it's universal healthcare and at your annual visit to the doctor the doctor always tells you four or five things like don't smoke don't be overweight exercise put your seat belts on when you drive those just those constant reminders actually play an incredibly large role in your ultimate health outcomes but we don't have we have lots of millions and millions of people who don't go to the doctor because they can't afford it don't have access to good food i mean that has to be part of the solution you

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Length: 5min 47sec (347 seconds)

Published: Fri Oct 16 2020