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it's time for us to talk some politics and today my special guest is someone who I need oh I bet you didn't know him you're welcome sir how are you doing I discovered a solid info well I just discovered so how come we don't know about some Oh as part of your name those I school with from critical primary school in Burma comp it's a Korean school bounnam Costabile but the full name is somewhere see - psst I see some cool features well no problem that's what caused it to be I see talking about daughters let's talk about you who who is cop Juanito a lot of people who have no need to be that loud mouth if you don't mind me using that expression loud mouth politician who's always saying things that people find difficult to say who really are you well thank you develop I'm Kenya I was born to now retired Major General Henry Franco celebrated General of the gun armed forces and then the latest machine Balam hormone and you do but maybe name checker from Minako I was born an acceptable choice at all really yes yes yes grew up in Burma come did a bad boy yes yes then we begun in a Greek Avenue okay in a residential area you know the military has some economy bungalows there from little the coverages around army necessary Secretariat so I think that's what we began then we moved to gamma come papa la body villas number one my body dies that's what happened okay growing up there with all the people and playing the chess Kelly a liquid to and because the socks ball and contents ball and all those it was ridiculous and let's say I'm the head of seven siblings to others brothers Charles and copy the desk open like me then there's Cauchy then there's Mouse who's our only sister and then there's Timo and then after smooth as James so there's seven of us so six boys and one day all right man like I said DOMA companies were all happening for us and I I really remember those DOMA campaigns and I I change those moments to the car primary school but my but actually as a meal will be nice or to cup remnants from the sense that my back entered kids one my school what you you speak so firmly of this place what is it oh we had this fantastic atmosphere she's gone to glory it's called a madam miss Patricia tomorrow all with a green bit so you really give us good feeling in those days I see what it was invoke you know to clean and spanked you must have had a lot of received a lot of those paintings because you look like a pretty stubborn person I wish they'd stop born but much more punky much more crunchy than Stallone I to Authority I don't like breaking rules but I I love I love the Frankie side of life I see it so so from primary school you know from the primary school days that's a barracks boy and everything tell us about your teenage lines when you're now beginning to get into energy life beginning of course I belong to the evangelical Presbyterian 3 fvp church and so that's that's where my faith is in the predatorial evangelical intervention growing up in the Tinley days I remember a Drama Camp still now who we were boys like I said one sister now say well ones one we were piped in to signal food the old man asked me to call him decided that look no more house boy and so we have to dig in between the house boy dogs since you came up from a very privileged background yo your parents were well-to-do it's not about well-to-do but I think that we did in luck the old man was in the military the majority in care of its own my old lady was a mess with any luck but we are not just welcome from Paris I'm saying that once we are piping in silly voice and so we have to begin to do the job of mine physical is beginning to be unfortunate we ought to seek the good the good sounds like he talks to them sometimes we have cuts that we moved into rabbits and guinea pigs at some point in time we had pigeons also at some point time so it was a potpourri of things that we had a good plan and took care of the defendant had stood the hall also the carpet and a pen I should get a massage we pursue how to do that then my elder brother Charles used to do that I only know the military uniform and the polishing of the boots and those this is to wear oh gee that's the olive green and got to start shipping and blow their designs in the backend your Sunday afternoons were gone because even I don't think just one which is like three hours with the starch and having to use the spawn spawn today starts before man I would to get a towel then once just one second is cool in some apocalyptic OVA and not to shine the boots oh yeah there was stuff you stopped he was in with you no but it was tough you won't have your way certainly you have the wheel and we had funds one inch in home that's on the courier room just before Kapadia yeah we had one in sorry party now and so we spend a lot of our afternoons exactly cuckoo quasi when we want holidays on the farm and it was couple us and who I see and so you didn't have the time to really party blah blah blah and all those things we did we did some we did some but it was like that because there was no system mangas that's about it we got a few who complain I think maybe even as late as from three seconds go I have to carry corn on my head and when grind injunction or what we call it in the in the barracks in Burma camp that's talking about the 15 year old boy when I should be spotted to learn how to drive again Ellie okay so that's how it was I mean it was like you still have to climb the ropes at all points thinking of girls though how many did you have when you were young oh no those ones yeah we remember in primary school writing some love little what we call it after new classes it was so you wrote a letter to someone in after liquid I've been seen again what did you write in the letter I can redo can I remember the first lines at least you know I was I was I was so small boys eating grass much so you write the letter and you know right so named by you describe where you live in your house number did you become a politician how did I become a politician I guess I've always been a politician I used to grow up reading I had a voracious appetite for reading I read all the Harley chases right I read Robert Ludlum's I read there was sidney sheldon's and I used to watch a lot of Oracle interviews I didn't like Star Wars and blah blah blah I like more what I call them investigative news the movies based on on real-life stories or novels you know so I did that a lot and I said I read in the news requests very early and I remember in those days when we had only radio 1 gb gbg1 you had a program for newsreel I don't know that is to do it and then it was more of current affairs okay and then I still love what you know of so as well I was related to even today yes yes the designer I still watched another fireball what do you know whose so I think that's how I grew up I grew up with a lot of of that inquisitive brain and then also I lived through the events of May 15 June 4th I lived through tomb 452 Burma camp growing up in Burma camp all the dead motors that were being shared the Air Force jets that were you know in the sky we had to look for our siblings and run from school all the songs that I was doing for general ease came onto the scene I could still recollect standing on the balcony koto primary school just looking at nicosia back and senior Rowling's batches that on his walk surrounded by all these men you know very fraction then of course came very fast so I lived through those so those are the key moments you say because I can only talk about three independence from what I've got it from the books and from the main students that we live may 15 had that be make you a politician but I think having lived through those moments and I recall when there was a call for majors and about because that I'm the old man was a major major than above two reports at Cal walk of luck star powers as well you'll notice warrior for I was going to come back home was just me and my oldest brother Charles are detained in Labadie villas and those moments those shrilly moments where you had so many things some went didn't come back so there's a lot of fear trepidation and then came 31st and all those things but you look back your father was finally brought back home I came back home and I recall how a number of his colleagues just drop isn't a literal language they drop the uniform because of what they went through they couldn't take it any longer continue being I mean not other ranks virtually pointing guns at officer say mochila no comma that's a revolution for you it comes with a moment and you need to be strong and solid not to take anything away from those who drop them - no but subsequently when having a chat with you the old man and why he didn't drop the uniform are the families I look a young village boy from tiny Bay and I joined the military as a private so that he joined a measure of the private so anyway that's what the records admitted to the rank of major-general and we'll go back home without and tell people that because there was a revolution I drop the uniform and he kept giving credit to one colleague of his canal said volume are you so rest in peace who came up and like onion that was his pet name but I call him said welcome another I mean which is a Shabbat and you do it's like I mean we're going nowhere to go I'm from Baku you are from Canada way but let's take it so that's how I soldiered on how did that translate into changing perhaps what have you always wanted to be a politician I'm saying that those those experiences of life and of course one cannot deny the transformation that began to take place under the revolution and under evolution I mean there was a lot of rot in the system by 79 when you first took place by 81 I mean 50 there was a lot I want to get the connection between what was happening then any or political talk I'll give you the big they're the foundation blocks okay but then in second in school we also do a lot of secondary school politics but it was in Laguna University I until they gone in 1990 and got out in 1993 now that period was defining Organa's politics because in 1992 who were entering the fourth Republican dispensation and we were students at a time on campus so having read all the literature student politics and occupation and the Kumar era and the CP people and what whatever I call them it was our time a moment to enjoy politics of of being in a teacher institution and so many things there are looters the movements and I remember was one occasion that had to do the introduction of student loans and to finally move our feeding grants diversity's take away our coupons and everything's for month and then get us to start taking student loans and also the days when we went on the front for the student movement and we highlight we let agitations against oh there was a third way about one week on campus and we know go for lectures and we're just burning tires and causing confusion in traffic at the lagoon junction burning tires let you go that's why I'm coming too so I think the government just got tired and if I'm not lying eternal fury was then the IGP and our president Rawlings and you know we've to enjoy a disability on campus where needed extend our secret areas is needed permission compasses to remain under the illusion that nobody will give the permission to break home to the company so we do that things outside that we run back to the campus and then we think that jolly nobody's coming here they are had enough of us and it broke in one mid morning who they really gave us a good hiding I mean I was Crypt well well well well on your but everybody could find okay not be alone like a number of us that was when unfortunately though this incident of the shooting of an IPS lady vide uh I remember the first Nevada something she was because was leg on IPS almost all the transitions are have gotten Wow and we just as it were having our student moments but she died she didn't die the governor had to elephant to the UK for medical treatment right ia boy I think as a name from a lion and that incident was what actually brought our kuku into the limelight because I think she had then just entered Parliament as an independent and when she took the floor to comment on what the security judges have done she was counting the comments of a session comedian and no forget that in this period happy be hard work with the Parliament so was a one-sided Parliament the MDC the telecontrol Parliament with how I could pass an independent voice so there'll be people who have written on it on the sidelines they were not in Parliament so that's how I could be broke in to counter a statement that they led coming to whichever was an NBC and we had made in support of what the security forces did to the students and in her submission she really was eloquent and she was solid on her points and that's how she became known as I only of course subsequently MTP sucked it into their food as they normally do when they come friend couldn't go around looking for to do to the MDC good question so education a lot of money and it's a group thing than on campus so people would think that would take it for granted that because you are fighting the Rollins administration there's no way you should be and this but it's one thing being on that he loved he loved knowledge and I enjoyed my days day but there was a time way I led us to that movement into a craft made up mostly of MPP people yeah yeah Bobby not someone who he was a year behind me also and Co and so the whole thing was as if it was an MPP movement it was a for aisoy passage to them to movement if the MPP budged into it that was their business but from to the student movement so in 1992 was casting my vote and I remember I cast my vote in 1990 Oerlikon computer right in front of Logano that's my whole I've voted for the NDC because I had to go back and look at how far the NBC an idea rallies but is PN DC and blood ghana i call sega nose at the standstill so there was one thing fighting a student movement of a student loan issues but when he came to the for that NBC was the right and this is how I've always done my why did you think they come from they bring in the country from wherever you think it was at the time to where it was in 1992 what the NPP was not giving us any alternative in fact in leg on the songs they were thinking yeah am I am I am I am I am I am I am Papa something they a very nasty thing they put there to describe the Rowland's you gentleman you understand what Megan is can I cannot belong to you so the whole organization and the bigotry of the whole thing just said look let me look at the larger picture is yes we are friends on campus we can't were composting but but for you it wasn't more more of a feeling like so generally this is from the Volta Region his mom is from the water region it wasn't that thing it was my country it was it was how I grew up any ties and blocking traffic and breaking the windscreen isn't so far so why do you became a part of the NDC you love being in 99 so 90 next to I put a tendency in 1996 I was not in Ghana I was out in the UK Chechnya must have degree so i didn4t 1986 I came back and I put that in 3 mm let's again for the NBC but opportunity we lost their 1982 election sorry we must have some kind of connection that is beyond just voting for the NBC the connection actually began even in those 1992-93 days upon the student thing I was still dealing with certain people and certain personalities who had strongly leads with a with an NBC we can look at a number of them and so you realize that my natural orientation has been to be on the left of the pollak I designed not to be on the right when we're doing the student movement within that some of us were doing movement for freedom and justice dutiful but we were me - not in a cushy part and poo come upon Quaker we'll meet another that left this movement that was agitating for democracy aha so we want a democracy yes but I would always remain on the left or the polka divide no I respected professor Des Moines as a person because he helped break the culture of silence I mean incidentally his son one of two of his sons where my housemates in at motor school Chris and Charles what Charles was my beat Chris was a year behind us as and Charles is one of the deputy finance ministers now dr. Dwayne under chemical attack so yes I'm very personal like in for a good wine because I knew his children no no no I'm saying I'm I don't hate them I'm said that my natural orientation I keep saying that if I was born a CBP days our ability is a gene that I think I was born with I don't like the right of polity look why should I like a government that things in a pigeonhole and and then again for me Jerry Rawlings and the blasted lessness of Ghana and what he did I didn't see why we should be allowing him to continue to do what he was doing then more so in 1996 when he met President Mills professionals is randomly at that time it was more fair a bit of a long pool because I knew Milligan I was not in his faculty do but I knew him in those days because he was the president of the amalgamated sports you know Association in in Lagaan and I was in the Gong hole and also into sports and stuff like that so from that angle we knew ourselves but those were who in his faculty used to speak highly of him and of course my became vice president my father who was then in charge of the Northern Command mercy and beyond a few times ook highly of the vice-president in these interactions with him we got to know ourselves at a different level and the Commission was natural so when he when he became president sorry Runnymede sorry sorry black flag bearer in 2000 and he lost in 2001 then a group of us young guys decided to form the Youth Forum myself while the likes of FIFA quicly who night ritual bhismaka by Malala yousafzai me Baba Jamar would become OJ Kannamma fidelity DDOT delayed to touch a people don't Adam Seungho and it was solely to keep the Comoros agenda gooood so at this point you had been approached I'm thinking I've been involved ISM we have been approached yes that's how I become I got into NBC approached you first well let me just say that I put the end election but once we lost people needed to be spotted and those a lot that I was doing behind the scenes I will tell you I tell you City by multiple team subversive do but a lot of the INA things things that we need to do just to have the core things were doing which is support I I was working the bank though the site I began off when I came from the UK I began off with UNHCR when I read missus High Commission for Refugees here in Ghana but I was then lead person from unity our that helped Beth the first set of saloon and refugees and the Civil War broke out there and also part of the Google hub transport the first batch of voluntary persons librarians were deposited back when we began the voluntary filtration exercise thereafter then I moved into the Thank You inspector so you're supporting with basically we are mobilizing young people right in as well okay let's assume that at this point you're already into politics full time were you married at that time no well yes mm mm yes how many kids two girls and two boys were they happy with your involvement in politics that's my personal position same way they will decide to do certain things once I build a law I can only would control them that matters not visit by you hassle because when people vary they would yes do it dad if at that time I had only one and she was she was just barely out of the cradle your wife was happy about it well those are questions yes we're go to a point where at the time then she thought that look you need to think about your kids and so watch but you see go back pull it back the tips you know listen to the interviews I don't I've never used abusive language what I do is to make my point forcefully when I'm convinced that is for the point I'm making I make it with conviction Aakash Rana - system where people tend to to brand you a certain way and so you have such a mystery place who on your back on a daily basis creating the person that you are beast where beast you have this where this then we got into then we got into the power of the cyberspace in the cyber world people are paid guilty to sit behind their computers from the daily business that's all for what you do I mean not me but politicians do you seen any evidence we know we know some some some people about some of them you know if-- is like some people walk up to you after they get to know you and grin at that mess I don't know what we think you are these people you know the cyberspace also is full of all kinds of people you'll be surprised that we are 67 17-year old men out there who are using pen names and giving like teenagers and all they do so I think the people people write things about you especially when I became spokesperson and come communications person for for example in a position that you're arrogant the way you answer questions I have been speaking to you for minutes now where's our girl maybe depends on the mood I don't say that I make my my points forcefully and don't forget also that with President Mills for professor mills and then President Mills I had to adopt a certain posture an arrogant fossil American poster a very stoic one now dealing with a man whom I knew who never stabbed me in the back I was doing the man he opened up to me and told me everything so when I put my neck on the chopping board I knew that never would I regret but people said that you were basically the president is not you commit then you were taking decisions you were saying things that the president hadn't asked you to say it's unfair what like what the only one that would tell me don't make that statement the presbytery to tell me I can't identity to Joya so they must have one of your love it I don't nothing else or one of them and the lights are going off in Kumasi blocks as much and then I was called nicer look as far as I am concerned this looks like a Sabu type and that we're going to look into the matter I need anybody was found culpable heads roll you can cover that when sector archives and play I never emphatically said any way that I can you do go I'm going to make anybody's head rule or suck anybody but of course then people want to blend this cheap and before you do it for that you went and sucked somebody on Isaac somebody on their way what authority did I have I was wholly at the head of commutation of the presidency and I spokesperson for the president but then what the president has asked you to say don't forget that I speak what the president as well see the same foot pout and I have to live emphasis my duty Kutner duty was to project and to protect the president I operated on the principle of a TT project and protect now if I were to support at the president by cutting off plasticity for football match and you look bad I'm a protective wasn't it too early for you to assume that someone was sabotage relax with a nice key moment do you up to now have evidence that someone deliberately tried to sabotage their lights came on set up I don't want happy to the report thank you this game is full of this public politics Philippine fix I mean when you wake up in the morning and media people you see what people don't know maybe should I put on this trip secret of mine I did my post University service GBC this was in 93 if I went out to do the master's program holy Jebus we didn't have any other media outlet so I cut my fifth day but it was enough brother cannot mocking my soul rest in peace from Nigeria and we're all there before I left and he moved on in life and maybe to BBC level wonderful one of my colleagues at a time there was rich man Kilson who's with the Sudanese because how I appreciate so by the time I you relied on your by the time we broke into the private media thing I had people all over to our lap GBC and away Oliver so they were feeding you information and pair my nature because I am naturally in the media I have friends but I see I hope rate me setting with that I can have your producers my friend by you know then you can be my family's I would know because I keep my friendship very secret and personal I'm not doing it for personal gain and glory but it is that I need we have friends you against me and I'll get you know so I knew from within our party who were busy trying to destroy me me I know them I see them every day and I guess smile who are they no mention their names why are you afraid it's not there's no need this to me what do they have against you you are so close to the President and like you said people misconstrued my loyalty the thing that I can hope Allah I didn't contro power president knows was president president mama was wasted there was a cross off stick shed by Lula citizen professor uber you have their legs of coffee to educate a in the background you have the founder of the president of their party Panzer olives you have senior members like to be watching permanent all kinds of people who is possible to control who speaks for the president's for who has access to the presidency because I don't you see because I speak for you I might know what is going on so you haven't and I was in cabinet also so you had a good position what happens if you have people like martini - chief of staff give up remains a sketchy to the president a Mossad akanda as I thought the protocol if we know how the presidency wax an obvious opportunity to dispel something that I don't know how to wear that is opportunity but I'm Jesse I've stomach the lot and I guess pretty to God but I never blew up what do you mean if you say the entries the skimming the modulations I have to not a lot but after five years of the personable president knows I know that I won't because the the attempt to cut one off not because you are lazy not because you're inefficient but only because you are lawyer to the president you actually power drunk oh maybe from the way you spoke and I'm saying that I spoken out of condition and from knowledge position maybe the kinds of ways maybe I may not have that list of those if I believe that in words would have stuck on your mind by now there's nothing it's just his job look and let me use this opportunity maybe I was opportunity then after the death of President Mills all their attempt to bury me with me with some vile propaganda that I used to disrespect black Spencer mama when he was vice president i used to prevent e-50 i think that you know how to pick them the castle is called maybe when okay when the flux that was in DB i wasn't a castle for a while okay look at the configuration of the castle where the vice president's offices and where the president's offices there's a dedicated corridor that links the vice president's office to the president's office was my office anywhere on that corridor now one day fresh well then moves into the president's chamber the first person you meet is the ADEs canal awesome my office was to floss behind the loop so did I have some magic pushing to always knew that the presbyter a.length was moving to the president's plane so I went to the police barrier I'm protecting from seeing me not physically but when there are certain things that have to be done you say oh but why do you think people say that it is president who was loyal to president knows and like you are saying he was that close to power president knows is gone why should it be close to power again let's cut him off after all so there was an attempt to country of completely buried in my life and I say why we know them but he doesn't worry me some of them what we vote enough become essentially we didn't know you it's not that we'll look I had a 70 something old lady who call me on phone asked me to meet her you know so Amaterasu she wept and cried as a cop from the Catholic a commune no man were liberal a fit the Oaxaca gay schedule from from from from the beginning of creation having suffered violence and has suffered betrayal that is why Lucifer was thrown out of the heavens what other time that you spoke for the French a relationship with John Muhammad then vice president he was the vice president of Republic of Ghana all respect did you Accord him that limit let me just go back to it all that stick things that I what will make me go the vice president's check and I'm hoping that one day I'll have a one-on-one with you and we can have this chart and know that between the top I can't spell it so it's been five years now you still haven't had a one-on-one chat we know why so did you approach him did you try I'm saying that all I'm saying is that the vial Papa ganda to create the wrong impression but did you try to dispel this notion yes there's also no poaching time it's like today the question opportune time is not yet I'm not going to hold a press conference actually but moments like these who provide opportunity for us to have for me to tell my side of the story do you know a lot of things not with about that when when even to extend a portion of your family begins to believe all the lies that have you told about you and I'm saying that what will make me would get back maybe that's an extreme thing to me but people still think that there wasn't a good relationship between you and the vice president it's not the vice president's second in command to the press there's only there's only one president at the time but the vice president is second in command my main duty was to defend the president and the presidency and I think about the presidency and the vice president belongs to the presidency so it's been five years and uuuu someway somehow money to become the deputy general secretary of the party I mean that transition from spokesperson to do you think that if you hadn't become the deputy general secretary that you will still have relevance in the NDC I don't know what to do by relevance from the molarity utmost loyalty is to their industry and to every leader that end is new produce whether in the front line or in the back line that is what most large to the part how did the former person feel about you becoming the deputy general secretary with all due respect you would have to ask him I don't know did you I mean you but you know you have people you know things they tell you things that way but but now that you're in the party the party lost lots of people have described the loss as a very miserable loss and now you are in the position how does it feel like giving the background to the relationship people trying to bury you along along side the present the former president and all of those things let me say that majority of the people thought otherwise that's why I'd lose no no no that is why they voted for me to become the de Jong circuitry so the few people we wanted to sink me that is advising when you have your antenna up and you understand the vagaries of life those things don't shake you the only act has extra blocks to the foundation and they build you up to become a much much better person president Mills always told miss Opoku in this business must have a big heart if you want to be a leader must accommodate you will know them whether you let them know that you know that I move along with them but as a leader you must be like the conductor of an orchestra what's a relationship hold on I'm not going there I'm talking about anything I'm saying that President Mills needs to say that as a leader you need to act as a conductor of the orchestra you must blend all the parts the person of little clarinet or the violin my not necessarily be your best best best friend I is the best person to incarnate but you know what at the end of the day it is a conductor that takes the power so that they simply in the clarinets movie not are like maybe give you the best tune that's why I thickened about so let us take a bow but they must put Orchestra together together I asked about your relation with some degree because I'm asking tried to find out whether I will talk about my contemporaries and leaders of the party not about individuals I'm not going there every say of contemporaries standard-based not do contemporary I'm seeing that question okay about the reorganization of the party that's that's been the biggest thing for you at the moment there's a group that came up calling it's called that Coalition for NDC rejuvenation they're accusing the National Executive of masterminding accession supports for comma President Mohammed to become or to run for the flagship of the party the nBC has structures and recognize structures and for me as a national officer I have no option but to operate with the recognized structures of the party people can form groups and religions to those groups nothing can stop them it's freedom of association but I will not respond to those groups that are not within the structure of the NDC otherwise every morning when I wake up a new group who perform and have to be responding to what they see okay so let people think what they want to think for me as I speak now it's about the party structure how we're going to finish with a registration exercise to run our branch elections run our constituency constituency elections to run our original elections and then move on to the national elections after which we shall be dealing with issues to do with the flag bearer but those are constitutional matters that will be dealt with by the eldest Constitution and not a kilometer by the embassies prostitution are appropriate I tell national 10 regional chairman came together to put out a press release and information that they are bucking the former president to go for the flagship was that right they did that and I'm sure had so many comments I didn't comment at the time and I'm not commenting now I think my boss general secretary made a general comment on it a nice time by the comment my cancer country I personally have no comment another matter is it that you are indifferent you know you can't be bothered about what they did I'm saying that the John Sakata commented let's stay with a comment all that are secretly are not going into it I'm not going to personalize it in no it's not to be it's not to be personal it's not to be personal you are a national executive and I'm saying that they are getting put out the categorical opinion on the matter and we stand by that what's this opinion well you have to google and find off anyone listening to you as a deputy general secretary I expect more this occasion I'm sorry to disappoint about committed this water the various positions have been exposed on the matter I think that that matter has been put to rest and we are moving on that's it because after all the the former president his Excellency President mama put out a statement in the immediate aftermath of the statement that came immolated from the tank with natural dignity so let's hold on to the statement of the de mama and one of the button I see then we do the reorganization plan someone said that they could see but reports it's not been implemented as it should oh I don't think that we are being fair to us and see what those people are expecting is that we should just come out and slow the whole report out in the LP as a matter what we do then I'm satisfied but don't forget that the you people call it specifically committee it's technically no official name is the elections review committee the RFC that's what's in the records of the NDC but to understand that the media has Kristin did you see we do community and it doesn't affect the Sewell and the speed of the bucket we have no problem with it so let me use your balance so that can be seated KBR okay we see Chris will to committee was set up by neck then a segregated community we give them the attempt of reference so they finish their work and the came back to us with the report let accepted it and the same neck decided that we will stick to the recommendations data that the committee will put out in the open our approval the bulk of which remains an internal document easy it's like going to the hospital and doctor so in this case let's sequence it became cool so we went to rocket--oh which is the election and we lost some went and saw the doctor the doctor said is going to go to the lab for a lab tech so we're gonna learn our lab test by the facility permit and then put the report back get out of that lab report out you know this population you can say we and we means that it's a party and you have a lot of people throats on the garage street everybody is the week yes now that we want to know what is wrong with that we that we are not we would admit into power connect the rest is main power from the week their reports feminism the week it was generator from the grassroots don't forget so they know what before the committee now what the we want is that to defend that elected representative begin to address the concerns then they know that the committee's report don't there isn't it justified for them to ask whether or not what they told the committee is well represented in the report and for that matter they need to see the reports of concern well once we are doing what they expect of us they are not idea we are there for example a major issue was their biometric register that that we complained a lot about didn't want it so necklace taken a decision and we are retooling and we enjoying the process and then we happy down there that's what that's what it is done let me tell you one of the major reasons why we will not and we shall not put out a report it's because it is so detailed and it recommends strategies for winning 2020 why should we put out strategies for us and that's why the video good for us why should we come and tell the whole world what are people telling us that if you do X Y Z X Y Z we can win with a single so why don't you be give them a part of it and leave the rest I'm saying they know what they have told us and they want us to do according to your bid Taman yeah which is not your bidding yeah wishing I'm talking to a course together for example when he says that he thinks that it is very wrong and here's a person who wants to be flag bearer of the party he's made that quite clear in no uncertain sense he says he thinks that it's very warm that a muscle executive including your very good self have kept the report and are looking this is not our personal decision this is your neck and I'm saying that if we elected is a kitty you have no opportunity when you are not an elected is a getting and that's why you are a free at home I'm sure you can say magnifies that people say now people say why I need no supporting acts we have something of them that's giving I'm giving an example that is you're not supporting X person for example let me use you are not supporting gift-giving but dream president understanding the family you you a spokesperson for president I prefer some laws at the time when he was contesting still gerbera at the onion and Elijah Muhammad vision today exam you support anybody is because you have a bias I say you see regarding it wrong when I was with president classy professor males in the national office so the individuals are quality in around certain personalities now what not snap offices but the original offices the original officers who have done so well that is what we are saying that they also kept asking ratified because the Constitution I don't forget that at the national level or the circuitry endorsed anybody such a man does anybody but the original chairman that matters for their people but I'm sorry that are the Chairman and those report the Constitution crowns on that on what they've done the NBC Constitution crowns on that that's what I'm saying that that matter have been dusted and put somewhere who will not be directed but I'm just giving you the general structure so today as a deputy on circuitry my job is to make sure that which I support my colleagues support the party the gifting it does look but there's no you okay yes so you know his full name is some focus switch open we'll be talking his life how he got into politics and his role as then a spokesperson for President Mills it's a thing that people have for what people tell him arrogance he said he's not arrogant we've been talking about the endless scene about the reorganization process there they're in or they're on at the moment we'll be moving out I'm taking your thoughts on the MPP administration so far maybe I know what to expect but but I will assume that today you will say something different from what we usually expect but within the MDC there's a there lots of people a lot of well not Lots though but a few names have come up for flank ownership and spill Gaara and just a professor Joshua Allah be upon Bogdan I'm not sure I had at the point is he's with Warren and how I agree so of course also we had yeah I mean it was a joke some way somehow but some of these planes have come out Sylvester Mensa is out there as well what do you make of all of these yeah guardians Alexander to Ghoulies as Bonilla will make people believe that and this is made up of to believe me out of NDC okay we are Guardians the we are bona fide members of the NDC they've served the NDC in various capacities nothing stops them from declaring their intentions nothing something so it's fine how does the National Executive politic I'm saying that until forms are sold and people pick up from go through their processes present the forms and they are accepted by gnosis negative those the questions mean we mean declarations and to the extent that they are not breaking any rules that the chlorophyll is that's not executive who would you you know we all have a bias you asking me to conjecture no no orbiting realize these names were on the table and they're taking forms picked up forms who would you have you know I'm sure if I was not an associative let me do that approached me and depending on approach and they resist for that approach I would decide to support somebody what is that was approach here no it's not negative let me tell you President Mills which I approached you sorry President Mills called me often one on one one early morning when I was with the bank okay I want you to work for me so that's how it works like it's like it's like in the trees like in Christendom when you have a calling the loyalty is Jesus the Christ and to Yahweh so if any of them should approach you but something that I got them I was somebody call somebody identified something me it was a collie and he called me what I said Wow about time II myself I was I was getting tired oh no of the banking sector he knows and I don't think I love too much monotony in my life so it was a timely call it was a timely call and it's when he called me that morning and said well I want you to wait for me I said oh my god he was in bed my prayers and I'm sure he did symphonia auntie and others that you call so the whole group that worked for him go give tea when a man calls you and identifies your talent and your strength must it must feel great right you must be okay so if professionals were to be alive you spoke for him for a very long time and you've been close to this man if he was to be alive which of these people do you think you would have chosen if you have they had the opportunity to do sir presidents would have wish the best for the end easier but I wish for their Lizzy I want us to come back in 2020 whoever the party decides must lead the mdc-t 2020 my coke wanna do I pledge my support for that person but for now it's as if me alone my vote you make a difference to you becomes necessary that's why they that's why the people are have concerns for example about the unity war the NDC unity walk they think that almost all the time for my present Mihama is allowed to speak anything that is becoming a way of promoting him of sorts because there's pressure on him apparently we've had to go for the progress you know see whether facts are facts and that's me I speak to the facts President Mohammed has been read out and listen for is a not it his immediate passing lead out there and easily he's the immediate past president of the Republic of Ghana no matter what people see he's held those key positions and so for ever in his life those positions will leverage him somewhere along the line to understand and if he derives leverage for benefit from that the bridging family but if he if he is contemplating coming as a flag bearer that should certainly worry you to give him a platform that others perhaps don't put words in my mouth no you I'm talking about no I'm saying that way as many people as we want to contest contest but to do with a unity work then you are saying that is given opportunity to speak is the from a president or a public of Ghana so there's nothing you can do about it can you stop it you can't stop it he was certainly operative leveraged himself on what position she has held in the past okay and so people also must learn to liberate themselves whatever positions the hood now whatever positions that are in the past nobody will stop you I mean if you've been summer masa right before that's what you label yourself on okay now let's wrap up our conversation with your sauce on the MPPs administration it's been well almost a year now they've been doing they've been doing some work they said a lot of things about what they've done three SHS they say the economy has stabilized better than it was at your time and a few social information policies what what are your thoughts generally of the work of the entity well you can't take anything away from the fact that nanaka father is the president of the Republic of Ghana he's the president comes to prefer being president and which I didn't order the reverence and the difference we ought to be a sitting president or Republic of Ghana I want we they are not or I dare not to get away from me but in terms of his governance style that's why there's a bit of there's a lot of queasiness for me I don't think he's cutting the me good image for himself with his family friends and cronies administration these things as far as I'm concerned yes because someone is called at this tent is the state to which you put it into our faces in our eyes when you have can offer gotta go to Parliament and before you miss budget was talking about success and ancestry is annoying why is it annoying to you why should come and tell us practical problem they stop this done quiet for your cutting how long does it take to do that it is annoying the gunner has not built belong to before that as an advantage he can rather I don't talk about a friend's cronies and this one when I come in and people are coming with it with it with a push because look a Nevada has surrounded himself in the financial sector with all these data bank cronies but if you have work at the PO it is a new fragrance it is a wonder what other ones live Reverend Obama today it is de l'homme it is Comfort Oakland blah blah blah blah blah if you have working people and you know their competence what was what's wrong with working with them you know how corruption begins the biggest corn easy corruption when it begins with corn easy what do you think you know for a fact people who are being pushed out of jobs because you don't belong to us is along about Vienna Canyon in Delano you must belong to us and belong to the illness sex or else we cannot wait with you so even if you have a government sector employment they are literally pushing you out push if you go we just put you on ice and leaving it in the freezer to pick you think that's what's happening what evidence do you have don't put it out every time well we'll be there right I'm 22 everything that even look the people who are suffering suffering with this in the in the security in agencies in the civil service where people are being sidelines just because of their surnames and it if they are they don't belong to the sector so that if he wants to do PvP if he's ready to become president or Republic of Ghana with this kind of attitude because he's planning to take over from here to follow as leader MPP tell him that he just in what do you say I'm telling you I'm a politician so whatever it is you have I mean my this I like you know just if the pawn in the chess game we need something more I mean you you have kept your reports on the looking to you know what you know what it must be something wrong I didn't notice that when anytime Kenna faretta is going to be the budget is the trend occurring into the head of the mama is a leader of the economic vice president of the Republic of Ghana what's wrong you should be carrying the bag of the finance minister the finance minister carries the body you think that the entropy is grooming cannot forget our to become friends you watch that space but that would be that would be the the final nail in the coffin off that's in mafia so then they will go and rest what is or not I don't know how do you mean with us we are singing just one song into political oblivion how would you how do you react if someone says that listen to and opposition someone in opposition just speaking about you know even this will attempt to rewrite Ghana's history and impose Dunkwa on us as the doyen of Ghana politics already is dealing them a hefty blue this group of people look 50 Ghana belongs to all of us it's good to have the family no friends and you're no problem but when you are doing it give me the excuse president Mohamed when President Mohammed was not doing anything compared to what they are doing compared to what President Mohammed was being nothing compared to what we are D what to the flux knockoffs and wasting what is going on there what's going on there what's going on there that's so different from what was going on when you were there so maybe you know what was grant I don't know no I mean so you know what you it's your party from the family and friend and the cronyism by you our King consistency and the failure and your policies you see the governor governor's is not an alligator is governance is our target areas you did a lot of caution why do you think they are filled it's just a year though we are filling in the speed and the rush with which they are attempting to implement all their policies policies overnight this afternoon teaches Japanese who were promised allowances fellows are not going in their health to any sector some discrimination going on there the students of Hygiene are not getting this not is not part of the health assistant release from the area of breaches Twitter discharged s came out saying that look the tunic percent that was allocated to them it's not enough we are seeing footages and on joy news join me the news on radio and television we hear we get the features we see the clips so they're not supreme we are sleeping in the open when we were busy a little screws on the trees they are now introducing 15 and freedom and the trees now we are talking about guns wonderful arrogance well Nepal on for the vines needs much membrane and he had the audacity to be insulting me you think he's arrogant oh yeah you are looking for a person vision of arrogance who leuphana poop we have a country to be insulting professor at the Nano Fukushima after all the hard work that we did did nothing at all was a credit here and the drama of this vision for the Hep C for structure in the one by way of the community basically school do you see anything good in the NPT administration so far see what I see good is that God is making us see them for who they are so our next I will take a decision will not give them power that's the functional aspect of their presence functionalist theory perspective the good thing about the cumin is that it has allowed them to compare notes but in terms of policies and what they will leave leave for Ghana if the way we have begun it's anything to to talk to I mean to look at and I don't see what happens I wouldn't be for us in France apart from I feel that if it's not system and economy that is going to hit a nice back and this is you speaking as a Ghanaian not as a politician per se I'm sorry that I have to speak I'm up I'm not doing for pollination but this is a real fact everyone would look at the recent budget the amount of money are computed for the presidency alone what is happening our presidents that image put that huge amount what is going on there so far enough to digitize the economy now you tell me even this one that bound me I did all the noise and all the the corruption surrounding it that so-called house addresses them how does it benefit the farmer internally how does it benefit the fisherman in a yahoo so basically you don't see anything Rama somewhere in CPS anchor bar you don't see the fisherman in between the farmer in somewhat not not able to spend two hundred million dollars on some so-called digitization of the economy you know what let's that one which was silly white-collar crime because they will get great for IT fence that belong to themselves in their cronies and give them huge contracts like they did with this a GPS thing something that should cost less than $50,000 they paid close to tree trimming on the less weight that spread okay so essentially yeah it's been a year all of the entity administration you don't see anything good invisible forces Delta forces on the loose you don't see anything good there's nothing you can fix it points and say well this is good at least nothing and we need some ID rope to collect something of my art to see something good about this government this conversation say for other Ghanians NASA nation we must once again up for ourselves for being on the Sutton Podesta when it comes to democracy so today under the MTP is helping us achieve that level of democracy no matter how they hit an iceberg as a government Alice our democracy is green a very high price okay how do you want people to remember you or when you do it from this talks of you being our guards and one who speaks you know uses ways that could have been you know uses words and it's not a crime for me to command language so how do you want grannies to remember you for me I wake up every day and I walk around and I get people who are coming up to me and say oh thank you me now understanding we understand before I'm hoping like morganians will understand and then when I'm remembered one day they understand will be great and deep and the religious will be that here was somebody who just came to service God and his country him I've done it in very interesting ways at least you admit that it's interesting ways the way you do well the way you do your things look you know people who don't know me and they get to know me for who I am and they're like wow we didn't notice how simple and down-to-earth you are I'm excited because then those ones become like it let's do when people don't know you and they try to destroy you you know just to to to for no voice is everything else well not your fault we are not whether we are not ready money will make our mistakes why not my wonder said just deliberate conspiracy to destroy just because of your way out was it in pressure it's not a bit for me it has toughened me I think that has helped me it has opened more doors it has toughened me up and I can say I have no regrets in my heart I've let go I've moved on okay and I take quite big party man are you relaxed how do I relax in the fact that sorry we take pride in the fact that you wait I take pride in the fact that I saved a president who school intention was to serve his country well and I was part of that in a sec how do you recently asserted by the fact that I'm serving the NDC in various various capacities and I hope to do so in more more more capacities yes what makes you happy what was not be when Arsenal wins huh suppose now okay then that makes telling me a human being loves us now who does I think especially from praise and worship oh really yeah that's why I draw my spirituality from I I find the Bible I can't read the hard text that much but from from from from worship prison worship songs I draw my spirituality and I I relate to my God in that way he's only spell out strain that I have them of course the reverse belongs to him you know but I consider myself to be a Daniel you know and I think that for me made it is yourself even in servitude so praise and worship that happens only once a week mmm I have my moments what do you do you sing listen to music okay and I get in tune with nature and I work a lot I walk during the weekends in the mornings I walk a Laura I loved work alone and it's in those moments of the day I get into it myself with my god and that's why I draw my inspiration from but hey politics is my life for now and when people come in to come and interview and it's like to date equality they're going to finish him they work out of the interview and they're like we tried everything I could in finishing that open mind good anything is possible but thank you so much it's been interesting having this conversation with you I'm hoping to hear your next your next Boat Show now I don't drop drop drop bombs I guess okay I guess I just let let it pass but then again I know the media so much that perhaps my weapon there are some stations that will call me five minutes to the bulletin I look at my phone and I guess Rafa's ladies it's a booby trap ours is a belated you go to editorial about it's like I do about 8 o'clock in the morning our exam is at breaking news luckily Martello for 10 minutes to 5 minutes of hitting water so i why should I speak have you enjoyed that I don't do recorded interviews because you do a recorded interview layer when cut a set only 1 second 10 seconds and use it for mischief when one of them is one of you are Felix our doom FM if you have aqua so I don't graduate already delve into our new method I wanted like everybody here but NDC I will invite you to their integration into de 21 I wish you all the best with that thank you I'm having a conversation with some more Kaku the chopper and you know it's been an interesting conversation and I hope that you enjoy it that's it yeah em Kofi [Music]

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Published: Fri Mar 30 2018