Evidence of the Afterlife: Jeffrey Long

[Music] hello and welcome everyone this is uh jean-rick miller and i have the great pleasure today to open a new episode of the sand dying and living online event and to welcome dr long dr jeffrey long uh in the interest of time i'm going to keep your introduction very short you are a radiation oncology physician in practice in louisiana and you have a hobby you you have studied over 4 000 reports of near this experiences and you have published a best-selling book and you have given countless talks on the subject today we're going to start with a brief presentation of the state of the research in ndes and followed by a conversation between you and i and we will keep some time for question for the audience dr long the floor is yours thank you very much for that very kind introduction uh we have a lot of material to cover here several decades of research including results from the largest near-death experience study ever presented so we we we're certainly uh uh gotta have a lot to talk about and it looks like we're gonna start beginning here whoops uh okay here we go so we are gonna be talking about evidence of the afterlife there really are some groundbreaking new findings from the largest near-death experience study ever reported so just so we're all on the same page i know a lot of you are very knowledgeable about near-death experience but just so that we're all on the same page a near-death experience is as the name implies you're near death in other words you're so physically compromised you're generally unconscious and may click be clinically dead with absent heartbeat absent respiration now at that time that you're unconscious and it should be impossible to have a lucid organized remembrance you do have the experience part of a near-death experience and we'll get into that briefly now i want to emphasize no two near-death experiences are the same but all of us researchers that have studied them see that they're a very consistent pattern of elements or what occurs during the near-death experience typically occurring in the same consistent pattern of occurrence so these are the near-death experience elements and i don't want to go through all of them but very often you see what's called an out-of-body experience that occurs initially consciousness rises above the body there's heightened senses typically very positive emotions and classic passing into or through a tunnel encountering that mystical light and see the end of the tunnel deceased relatives are often there life reviews often accounting unearthly if you will heavenly realms are commonly reported and then ultimately at the end they have to return to their earthly life so that's very briefly a typical detailed near-death experience right there well i got interested in this over 20 years ago and because i had a burning question about the reality of near-death experiences i set up a website nderf as the near death experience research foundation from its inception it has been a public service uh we haven't had anything for sale and up until very recently we didn't even have a 501c3 branch we really wanted to share with the public what had been shared with us freely from people all around the world and when i say all around the world i really mean that we've got portions of that website the nde research website in over 30 different languages and remarkably we have accumulated over 4 000 near-death experiences from people sharing with us i want you to keep in mind as i go through this as remarkable as this is going to sound it's a basic scientific principle that what is real is consistently observed and you're going to see remarkable consistency in what we've observed in ndes as we go through this i really want to give a special thanks to my wife jody she's a licensed attorney and yet she has devoted her full-time job to the website she's now the webmaster that's literally what she does all day long because it's such a huge project and it's due to her efforts our labor of love that we're able to talk about our research from the website today well who has a near-death experience anyway a gallup survey published in 1981 found that about five percent of adults in america had a prior history of a near-death experience after extensive research spanning all the way back to 1975 we absolutely cannot predict who will have a near-death experience or what the content will be near-death experiences can happen to anyone children and adults physicians and scientists clergy religious even atheists have typical near-death experience and those who never heard of near-death experience all of us can have it around 10 to 20 of those who nearly die can have a near-death experience so the bottom line is anyone can have an nde and just to emphasize i'll be using the term over and over nde as an abbreviation for near-death experience okay here's how we don't do the research this is a fake near-death kit here's what the skeptics think we do as you can see you've got the light at the end of the tunnel and this person will think they have an nde so don't worry folks that's not how we conducted our research but let's get into how we did do it we published back some years ago my book first book evidence of the afterlife became a new york times bestseller within eight days it's had a huge public interest on the nbc today show the o'reilly factor that was more impressive until he got in trouble dr oz show national geographic channel and even was asked to present at the new york academy of sciences and down here where i live in a small town southern louisiana home of louisiana extensive local interest so it's been a lot of fun to do this as well as very informative and inspirational literally to tens of millions of people that have heard these shows presentations throughout the world what i'm going to talk about are the survey results the most recent full survey is we have different versions of a survey on our endearf website the most recent the second i guess the last survey we have before we closed accrual had 1122 near-death experiences sequentially shared in analysis of that data we found nine lines of evidence that all converged on the reality that near-death experiences are in the word real and we're going to get into that very briefly so what are those nine lines of evidence that we had from my initial study well the first line of evidence is during that period of unconsciousness or clinical death people have crystal clear consciousness to understand how amazing that is consider after a cardiac arrest well of course immediately when your heart stops pumping blood immediately stops growing to the brain a measure of brain electrical activity called eeg or electroencephalogram is absolutely flat 10 to 20 seconds after a cardiac arrest and yet in my study i found that nearly 75 3 out of 4 during that time of unconsciousness of uh or clinical death they actually were having more consciousness and alertness at that time than during their earthly everyday life which is absolutely medically inexplicable the remaining 20 said that their consciousness was normal uh compared to their earthly everyday consciousness and only five percent even though they were physically unconsciousness described less consciousness and alertness than their earthly everyday life it's important to remember near-death experiences are remembered verbatim literally word for word decades after their occurrence all of this is pointing to it being a very special type of consciousness well the second line of evidence and very important are these so-called out-of-body observations a fairly common initial event in near-death experiences is that out-of-body experience consciousness separates from that unconscious or clinically dead body and to me as a researcher i ask the question is what they're seeing with their consciousness above their physical body real well about 45 percent of the time in near-death experiences they describe ongoing earthly events often efforts frantic efforts at resuscitating them from their life-threatening event so my question are their observations are what they seeing real well we've had a prospective study two of them actually say bomb and sartori both found that they appeared to be real dr jan holden did an entire literature review of published out of body observations and found 92 percent of the time there without any apparent inaccuracy and in my study the largest of this phenomena 287 people that had that out of body observations to my astonishment i found 98 of the time what they described were without any apparent inaccuracy both my my review and the person who had the near-death experience sharing it again just to understand how remarkable this is many of these out-of-body experiences involve consciousness far from the physical body and geographically far from any possible sensory awareness we've had people code in the operating room consciousness drifts to other parts of the hospital and almost invariably what they see in here even far from their physical body is absolutely correct even if they go back and verify it so that's certainly a significant line of evidence okay folks once again this isn't how we do this type of research here's an operating room and a light and it says if you're reading this you're dead so don't worry we don't really do that but getting back to some other ways that we do research and find the evidential how about visual near-death experiences in the blind okay the blind can vary you can have those that have been totally blind from birth or develop blindness in life it can be complete or partial blindness the toughest test would be those born totally blind and remained blind throughout birth i've interviewed a lady who had this vicky born totally blind and stayed totally blind these have been reported in case reports and remarkably when people that are born totally blind have a near-death experience a life-threatening event they can have vision and have very typical near-death experiences but with classic uh content and with classic vision the one person i interviewed nikki described what's called 360 degree vision she could see front back right left and up down all simultaneously it was tough for vicki born blind from birth to understand the rest of us have these sort of pie shaped visual fields because don't forget in her entire life she only knew spherical if you will vision so absolutely medically inexplicable for people to have that kind of picture perfect vision just to illustrate this marta g was a five-year-old girl who was blind and unfortunately went into a lake and here's what happened after marta went into the lake and she was again blind i slowly breathed in the water and immediately lost consciousness a beautiful woman dressed in bright white light pulled me out and looking to mine this is a spiritual figure looking into my eyes asked me what i wanted i was completely satisfied and could think of nothing until it occurred to me to take a trip around the lake i did and saw a detail i would have never seen in real life i could go anywhere even to the tops of trees by simply intending to do so i was legally blind and for the first time saw leaves on trees birds feathers bird's eyes details on telephone poles and people's backyards that were far more acute than 20 20 vision mundane details to us birds feathers telephone poles but if you've never seen it before in your life it's absolutely amazing okay here's a fourth line of evidence under general anesthesia under adequate general anesthesia you should have no conscious remembrance at all if you code if your heart stops while you're under general anesthesia which is very well monitored it should be if you will doubly impossible to have a loose and organized experience however i studied 23 near-death experiences that were very clearly documented as having occurred during general anesthesia they absolutely occur their typical near-death experiences in my questionnaire there were 33 questions pertaining to the elements of the near-death experience or what actually happens 32 of the 33 elements occurred equally often in the near-death experience group associated with anesthesia as compared to near-death experiences occurring under all ants all other types of circumstances the only difference is the people under general anesthesia that had their near-death experience statistically were more likely to have a tunnel experience i don't know why but importantly my key question about what was your level of consciousness and alertness during this experience absolutely the same whether they were under general anesthesia or had their near-death experience under any other circumstance powerful evidence right there that near-death experiences are absolutely occurring separate from physical brain function the way that we understand it oh gosh here's another one of these oh no it's an operating room okay as a physician i want to reassure everybody real quick this doesn't really happen we have a operating room light that appears to have fallen on the patient 10 to 1 when he comes to tell one of those stories about seeing a bright light at the end of the tunnel for reassurance to all this doesn't really happen so moving on quickly oh you know probably already you're seeing some pretty powerful evidence for the reality of near-death experiences and it's consistent message that our consciousness survives bodily death well what do the skeptics say and that's important to note that over 20 different explanations so-called explanations have been proposed by skeptics over the years you name it i've heard just about every physiological psychological and cultural explanation possible the reason there's over 20 different explanations is very simple the skeptics themselves can't agree on any one or several explanations of near-death experience that they accept as adequately explaining nde i mean think about that if there was really a decent explanation of nde it wouldn't have over 20 different explanations competing with each other but moving on quickly we'll go through lines five of seven uh lines of evidence for the reality of nde there's a life review um during the live review just observe about seventeen percent of the time in near-death experiences you may see all or a part of your prior life reviewed long forgotten memories may be recalled and when i researched this i found that when people had a life review even if they'd forgotten the memories often in early childhood if they later checked it out after they recovered from what merely killed them they find that even if they forgot it what they saw in the life review really did happen even if they'd forgotten it i always put fear not the life review because some people fear the life review i can assure you during the life review and near-death experiences essentially never is there external judgment you're being shown your prior life you have to decide and make a judgment if any about what you have to think about your own prior life certainly in near-death experiences that's not at all unusual to encounter deceased loved ones these are joyous reunions even if people died of disfiguring or illnesses when they were way up in age they're essentially always picture perfect health in my study i was astonished to find that only four percent of the time beings are encountered in a near-death experience in an unearthly or heavenly realm only four percent of the time these are beings that are alive at the time of the near-death experience oh oh oh that's completely different from ellucid met and that's literally the first time that they encounter them and i want to emphasize also deceased beloved pets are often countered in near-death experiences in these unearthly realms once again joyous reunions light of evidence seven i studied near-death experience in children age five and less this is sort of an ideal study group because to them near-death experiences are unknown and unknowable they have no concepts of death generally they don't typically won't have any preconceived notions about what should happen when you die looking at that same 33 elements of things that occurred during a near-death experience the near-death experience content was identical even though they're culturally practically a blank slate when very young children have near-death experiences they're having identical content near-death experiences a really powerful line of evidence is the fact that near-death experiences have worldwide consistency you may call i previously said that portions of our nde research website are published in over 30 different languages so we're getting near death experiences shared literally from all over the world that has allowed us to do by far the largest cross-cultural study that's ever been possible before at the conclusion from this extensive study involving hundreds of near-death experiences shared from non-english languages around the world and from over 50 near-death experiences from non-western countries bottom line is the near-death experience strike content once again strikingly similar it doesn't seem to make any difference whether you're say a christian in the united states or a muslim in egypt or a hindu and india wherever on the planet you are if you have a near-death experience is going to be strikingly similar now language gets in the way how do you describe ineffable unearthly the kind of remarkable things that people encounter but if you look at actually what happens they're remarkably typical now the sternest test of near-death experiences around the world are those that occur in non-western countries that typically have very different cultural and religious backgrounds through my work and also doing several studies with a near-death experience investigator in iran we've published several papers on this once again the content appears strikingly similar the implications of all of this is enormous wherever on earth we are if you have a near-death experience it seems to be strikingly similar really seem to be spiritual beings overall having a human experience here and now in our earth line of evidence number nine is what's called the after effects in other words those are the changes in values and beliefs that occur after the near-death experience now i want to emphasize this may take years to fully integrate when you have an extreme life-changing event something that is beyond anything you ever thought possible obviously it can take a long time often years to fully integrate those changes and values and belief but when they do extensive prospective and retrospective studies and near-death experiences are very consistently finding an increased belief in the afterlife i mean that's not a surprise is it from the perspective of someone who had a near-death experience they don't doubt the afterlife because they firmly believe they experienced the afterlife and their near-death experience and they know what lies ahead obviously they have a reduced fear of death for the same reason they've been through a life-threatening event they know from their personal belief what happens after they die and it is certainly good news they grow to value loving relationships from what they learn during their nde they become typically much less materialistic and certainly a greatly increased belief in god certainly other after effects those are the most commonly observed now we're going to go on to my more recent research and this is sort of leading edge if you will that was my original nine lines of evidence for the reality of near-death experience we're coming up now to number 10 11 and 12. number 10 in the survey i asked 1122 people that actually had a near-death experience straight up how do you currently view the reality of their near of your experience look at that 95.5 people believe their experience was definitely real only about four percent say any doubt at all and say it was probably real and less than one percent are of the belief that their experience was not real that is an astoundingly high percentage and i think you really have to conclude from this data that out of respect for people's ability to generally understand reality if skeptics want to represent the near-death experiences are not real they really need to present strong evidence that near-death experiences are not real and as we've discussed the skeptics aren't even close skeptics can't explain any of the lines of evidence i'm presenting today let alone all of them together moving on on number 11 another line of evidence for the reality of near-death experiences are what's called shared near-death experiences these are fascinating experience where two or more people have a simultaneous in other words occurring at the same time life-threatening event we've and then they can not only observe each other and they can communicate with each other but they're actually if you will sharing the same near-death experience like i said we've had 15 that have been shared with us they're typical near-death experiences but they're shared i want to illustrate that with a very dramatic account william shared this some time ago and this is an example of what can happen during a near-death experience and this is a shared internet experience this is william shares i was taking my girlfriend to her parents home in welland that's canada i went to sleep while driving then i was aware that we were out of our bodies and quickly flying up towards space holding hands they were engaged we flew straight up for a minute or so when we started to see a park or countryside landscape suddenly we were intercepted by four creatures two flanked each of us and began to gently separate us they overwhelmed us with a feeling of the highest love and compassion that was well beyond anything we could experience on earth a divine love we therefore had no resistance to their effort i recall feeling sort of like a baby in a mother's arms but it's hard to accurately describe two of them moved her upward toward a distant landscape and two moved me back downward i felt so much love peace and comfort that i wanted to protest and say no please let me stay here but hearing inwardly without ears or psychically that i could not stay next i could see my car in flames for maybe about a quarter mile up i felt a sensation of falling and awakened in the car the front was on fire i moved her from leaning on me as she was when i fell asleep knowing that her body was an empty shell i had left her above with those beads a very dramatic very poignant shared near-death experience they were literally sharing a near-death experience very powerful evidence that what's being described in near-death experiences may well be that initial step for those having permanent irreversible death some of the most important recent research i have is is there an afterlife answer obviously yes so if there's an afterlife is there god well that's been some of my recent research i reviewed all near-death experiences shared sequentially uh over that three-year period these were first-person near-death experiences shared in english only and they had a research scale that was seven or higher and they identified an awareness or encounter with god i was amazed at the consistency in what they described they over and over described god as overwhelmingly loving overwhelmingly accepting them of who they are and for all that they are they have enormously positive feelings god's presence god's appearance can be variable but typically described as an unearthly brilliant white light they're usually very certain they encountered god they often say what i encountered god is an earthly term an earthly word what i encountered was beyond any earthly word often god will be involved in sending the person back to their earthly life it's very common for and have a powerful sense of unity they usually use the word unity more than just a connection uh after life are heavenly realms when they're in an unearthly heavenly realm uh just briefly time and space radically seems different from earth they typically say time does not exist beautiful landscapes have been described when they're in that unearthly realm beyond anything on earth there's buildings and cities it's always dramatic to me that when they're in that unearthly or heavenly realm they may describe colors that are beautiful beyond anything that could even possibly exist on earth they may describe beautiful music that is so beautiful that it's beyond anything that could possibly be conceivable on earth beyond anything that they ever knew typically in these unearthly heavenly realms they have once again that over powerful feasts feeling of peace and love in fact the two most common words among the two most common words used to describe near death experiences love and peace and interestingly when they're in that unearthly realm even though that seems so different from her earthly life there's very often a powerful awareness that this unearthly this beautiful heavenly realm is their real home and that seems to be true not only for the person having the near-death experience for all of us a really profound message of hope delivered from those that have had near-death experiences so thank you very much we're now ready to have some further questions thank you thank you jeffrey that was uh really amazing um presentation of what is known about neoda's experience um i'm also interested actually in what is not known uh what are some of the questions that are the most puzzling to you some that you would love to see to see answers for that is a fantastic question in my years of research i realized what we do not know about near-death experience exceeds what we do know we need to learn more about consciousness how does our earthly consciousness relate to that unearthly consciousness what about that that seeming consciousness that separates the time of a close brush with death if you will a soul we just need to learn more about that we need to try to understand more about that unearthly realm we need to learn more about love what is that divine overwhelming sense of love that people that have near near-death experiences what do they bring back when they come back it's almost like sometimes they say they bring back a little piece of heaven and they're able to manifest love in their lives later again i think the more we can learn about that and how we can apply that to all of us for example or a couple of important questions there's there's many more of course um of course i what uh i've my understanding is that not everybody has a positive near this experience there are some that are uh frightening marked by intense terror anguish loneliness and despair uh according to the words of a journalist that wrote a paper in uh scientific american recently and uh do you agree with that and uh if so what do you attribute those to yeah uh there's sort of two different issues here one are the frightening near-death experiences the significant majority of people that start out their near-death experience frightening i mean think about it they had a close breath with brush with death their consciousness is over their body they see frantic efforts of resuscitating themselves life-threatening events can be inherently frightening so a relatively small percentage of people are indeed frightened by all that for the significant majority of those initial components of fright early on they go on and have more pleasant blissful positive near-death experiences as they present in my study of truly hellish if you will or extremely unpleasant near-death experiences first of all they're rare they only occur about one to two percent of the time and i want to emphasize that even among those people that have some extremely frightening if you will hellish components of their near-death experience the substantial majority of those that learn from their experience and process it and go on to live their life will come to realize that they had issues in their own earthly life they had that guilt that fear that anger and they'll often say there was no other way i could have confronted that learned and grown even people that have had frightening and even hellish near-death experiences come to believe that they're not doomed or fated to have an involuntary hellish existence when they die as far as i know that's true of essentially all near-death experience researchers that very positive blissful part of the near-death experience that heavenly realm seems to be the best of mine and other near-death experience researchers assessment our destiny thank you thank you now um the description of neo that's experience that we hear are sometimes very similar from to uh experiences that people can have under the influence of psychedelics uh so anything from psilocybin to five amino dmt uh can generate experiences that are related in the same way that uh and the ease so more generally can people experience and the ease when they're actually not actually close to death that's a good question there's been a lot of interest in that recently the very most recent near-death experience we posted is absolutely remarkable i invite anybody interested to go to nderf.org and look at the last experience post posted scroll down she compares her near-death experiences with dmt lsd type of experiences and compares and contrasts them just to summarize there are very striking differences in illicit drug experiences you're under the control of if you feel you're being controlled by the illicit drug they tend not to have that hyper real feel to them you essentially never or extremely unlikely are you going to have those out of body that are later validated as being real you're not going to have all those lines of evidence are very uncommon during your death experience you do have that intensity of emotion that's common for anybody who wants to explore that further i invite you to the website arrow at erowid.org you can see hundreds and hundreds of different types of illicit drug experiences i've looked them over and the bottom line is from people that have actually shared illicit drug experiences they are strikingly in general dissimilar to near-death experiences thank you um well it's about uh do we have any question from the audience uh if uh if anybody has questions please raise your hand you know how to raise your hand you have to click the participant icon yes okay so i'd like to um i'd like to open the i'm gonna unmute claire elizabeth hello um i'm asking um what what you've learned about why some people come back why do some people come back and when some people don't yeah claire elizabeth that's a great question i actually co-authored a scholarly book chapter looking at that vatima issue among others and even after decades of good research and near-death experience by the way there's over several hundred scholarly uh peer-reviewed published studies on near-death experience but even with that volume of research we simply cannot tell who will or won't have a near-death experience when they have a close brush with death nor what the content will be only about 10 to 20 percent of people that nearly die will have a near-death experience so once again we said that's one of the great mysteries you were asking earlier about you know i would love to learn more but that's an excellent research question but we still don't know why that is we don't know for sure it seems to be you know maybe it's some kind of like a grace or a gift for those that have the near-death experience and just simply don't know why it happens or not but it's it's all or nothing you either have a near-death experience or you really you go unconscious and you recover and there's essentially no loose organized experience so that's one of the biggest mysteries we have in near-death experience research good question and also something else we don't know if my understanding is correct we don't know exactly when the nearest experience happens with respect to the person going flatline if it's during that time just before just after with dreaming we have some physiological markers but within the ease i understand we don't is that correct no that's not really correct remember we talked about the autobody observation that's you clearly time stamp observation of ongoing earthly events at the time you're unconscious you're not really observing events while you're going into unconsciousness as a life prep threatening event isn't starting you're not really observing ongoing earthly events as you're coming out of consciousness at the end you're typically seeing uh your cpr being given efforts at resuscitation so we're very clear that that is occurring right during the time that they're unconscious or clinically dead and not before or after i might add also when you have a cardiac arrest a severe cardiac arrest you're literally amnesic typically for hours prior to the event and yet people instantly described with full lucidity that have a cardiac arrest with a near-death experience immediately their heart stopped and typically boom they're starting a highly loose and organized near-death experience so that you're bringing up a skeptic argument it's just not consistent with overwhelmingly consistent observations in nde thank you for for this important procedure um i'm gonna unmute francis uh hello can you hear me yes we can now i'm just wondering how often are people with nde misdiagnosed as having a mental disorder i think that that's a real tragedy for people to be misdiagnosed as having a mental disorder that uh thank you francis that is an extremely good point we had a huge problem with that at the dawn of learning about near-death experiences that was from dream and moody's book life after life in 1975 for a long time people would often be diagnosed as having a mental disorder or even psychosis if they dared to share their near-death experience i can assure you now as a physician francis that with what we know about near-death experience and its extensive awareness and publication uh not only in the media but in peer-reviewed medical and scientific literature for anybody to misdiagnosis today a near-death experience as a psychotic or uh severe or to misdiagnosis in that manner that's literally medical malpractice today and we have it fortunately it's been a many many years since we've been contacted by somebody that had that serious misdiagnosis near-death experiences as remarkable they are are not a function of a of a psychosis or a hallucinatory experience they are as near death experiences uniformly believe an experience of a visit to an afterlife they're absolutely real good question thank you um jeremy great hi thank you very much for the research um um i've had a uh near-death experience although sometimes i like to use the word through death experience since i came back um one um and and i wrote it up as an ebook um it's called my death uh um a personal guidebook so any inventory it's all illustrated because i'm also a an artist so i wanted to show visual imageries of what the experience was two things i want to point out um one in my particular experience i actually did go to hell and recognize that hell was in fact a total illusion because by being dead and therefore having no feelings i still had consciousness but i had no feelings all of the horror that was associated with my particular experience of health suddenly i realized truly that in fact this was all illusion like watching a movie and it totally disappeared and then i took very much classic parts of the journey which had some of these things overseeing past lives and tunnels and etc interesting enough um one of the things about also the experience of past lives that i wanted to point out and i don't know jeffrey if this has been reported by others is i had the experience of not just in fact not very much my own past life i had the experience of the entire history of humanity's past life everything that i'd ever seen or watched or read about in terms of anything that had ever gone into the particular consciousness of this particular incarnation was experienced in a nanosecond everything and i've not run into very many other and i've tracked a lot because as i said i've written this book about it and i'm sort of into very much the research that you've done and other people have done but that's been an interesting thing about the reliving the history of i'll use this word humanity as distinguished from just your specific personal histories and that seems to have been a bit of a different part of the journey compared to other people who've gone through their ndes yeah jeremy thanks for sharing that two very important points that you raised uh certainly with you know your your awareness of the illusory hellish realm certainly is consistent with what me and other near-death experiencers believe that there's no permanent involuntary hell and that's fascinating the observations of all of humanity certainly we have a few dozen near-death experiences that often vividly describe typically as part of a life review remembrance of prior lives lives prior to their earthly life and these can be very dramatic very detailed and for example one person described the medieval life and people think it's like in real medieval era if it was you know knights and white armor and beautiful castles that's not true what they described in their nde is the reality of it these were walled in cities they they were muddy they were impoverished they'd be beggars uh and frankly it tended to stink because that was how things were back then so gripping reality from past lives uh been described i used to not believe in reincarnation but wow after studying near-death experiences again being guided by evidence obviously now i do the observation of sort of all of humanity is a very panoramic past life and that's that's very exceptional but i'm sure we'll keep our eyes out for more of those thanks for sharing that thank you one last question from pete yeah all right um i was wondering what the average length of time people are away and what the longest length of time is everybody has anybody been away for a day uh and is if that might be a problem for the doctors in the operating room for instance yeah yeah that's a good question can't hear you i don't know if you can hear me but i can't hear you since you start talking yeah can you hear me now yes okay good yeah that's great um so again two two ways of looking at it uh from the earthly perspective of working with someone who's dying uh you know like with a cardiac arrest we're getting better and better but you know if you're not back in an hour or two you're almost certainly not gonna make it fascinating what people describe during a near-death experience where time essentially doesn't exist which is one of the most common observations people that have near-death experiences make and in that realm we've had people describe vastly longer seeming periods of time than that brief period of minutes to typically less than an hour to during their earthly life the the longest that i can recall is someone who seemed to to literally live for years in an unearthly realm and they actually formed relationships and emotional bonds with that near-death experience realm it was very difficult for them to come back to earthly life so it can it can extend uh far beyond that brief period of time of unconscious or clinical death to at least minutes even hours days and on very rare occasions years just an excellent example of the pro the amazing uh extension of time that's very typically described in near-death experiences don't forget they're unconscious or clinically dead and yet here they are crossing information for hours or even for days while they're unconscious so just a very glaring example of just how amazing consciousness is during near-death experience thank you thank you so much i'm afraid that's all we have time for uh i wish we had two or three times as much and definitely and um i'm so grateful that you could be here with us tonight it's been a real pleasure thank you to everybody who's here enjoy the conference [Music]

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