Every Single Civ BROKEN DOWN - Empire Wars Tier List

g'day fellows and welcome to the Empire Wars overview in this video we're going to be talking about Empire Wars we're going to be going through exactly how it works so we're going to be taking a look at every single civilization later on in the video and going through exactly what they get when they start because every sieve is different in Empire Wars now to play empire Wars all you're going to be doing is just changing your game mode from standard over to Empire Wars the same way that you would do it for nomad or scenario or Royal Rumble or sandbox so we're gonna go and do that now the Empire Wars won't be available to play uh in ranked it won't be available to play in quick match either it is a separate game mode that's in customs if you want to play with your friends or in Skirmish if you want to play it with the AI now we're going to be jumping into Golden Heights uh which is one of the brand new maps so let's get on over there and start so what I'm going to do is I'm just going to start off the game and I'm not going to do a single thing and we're just going to go through everything that you get now this is of course with the Chinese every single civilization is different so we'll go through every single seven just try and see the differences and we're also going to be talking about what saves this game mode favors because it's important to remember a lot of people might come into Empire Wars thinking and you know what we're just going to pause it right here because I've got a lot to talk about you might come into this game thinking or Empire was thinking ah it's not that big hold on a minute Empire Wars is the game mode that's played for Red Bull wall in Age of Empires 2. when they play Age of Empires 2 at Red Bull wall the biggest Age of Empires 4 Tournament that we've seen you know over the last couple of years it is always Empire Wars so Empire Wars could be I'm not saying that it's gonna happen I don't have any inside knowledge I don't know at all at this point uh but it could be uh that age of Empire is four goes to Red Bull wall next year or rather this year uh and that uh with that it means that uh Empire Wars is played there that could be I would suspect that's probably going to be the case uh but at the same time I mean it's it's also a pretty fun game mode it gets you up to speed a little bit faster so just to provide a little bit of insight uh towards the way that it goes so you can see here we're playing as the Chinese uh We've started off with six sheep all my villagers have naturally moved over onto a sheep immediately now I've got two Imperial officials I've got a scout I've got a mill that's on the berries I've got no upgrades whatsoever and I've got another Imperial official that's supervising my villagers out on wood here I've got six villes on the gold and I've got four villagers in queue at the Town Center so you start off already with a lot of resources I mean look at this like we're we're 30 seconds into the game and I'm I'm able to age up right now so my wonders aren't built already but they they are just about ready to be thrown down which is absolutely awesome now this is gonna favor some civilizations and this is going to be terrible for some civilization so let's go through exactly which civilizations I think um are going to be good and which ones are gonna be good and which civilizations this is going to favor now the first thing that we're going to be doing is is of course just doing a standard tier list okay now this is going to be my prediction it's not going to be you know I don't actually think this is going to do well but let's talk about some of the the ways that this is going to play so I think Mongols this is this mode is going to adversely affect them I don't think that it's going to mean uh that Mongols are going to be terrible in this mode I just don't think they're going to be as good in this mode as they they might be in say a normal mode and that's because Mongols rely on a lot of early aggression right games that you're playing with the Mongols it's a civilization that typically relies on that early Dark Age aggression now in saying that they're not the only sieve that relies on Dark Age aggression you've also got the Ottomans uh would you like to go for that early military school get in the enemy base start annoying them on the stone mine or on the gold mine and they go for those military schools well now they're not going to have that chance to build up in the early game so that's another thing that you're going to have to consider other civilizations that look for a little bit of tempo early with their quick aid jobs the French also going to be adversely affected here now I'm not going to put them in the city in the detail I'll put them in the seat here because they want to try and get that night out a little bit faster um and and try and hit the enemy you know before you know often we will see French players aging up you know even before four minutes and try and get out a really early night and the reason why this is this adversely affects the French is because for me if I'm aging up 30 seconds and throwing down my Barbican I'm already on the way to 2tc Song Dynasty is the Chinese for me my thinking is that if anything for the Chinese this is a great game mode for them because it gets you already to that stage where you're getting into the game Super a hard super fast now granted I haven't actually gone through and tested every single seven like done all the balancing on that because that's not my job my job's to play uh the devs obviously do all the balancing and I I would suspect that they're pretty much they've worked it out all behind the scenes but I I would suspect now I don't actually know if this is the case but I would suspect that civilizations that like to have a little bit of safety in the early game like you're Chinese like your English like your Abbasid dynasties are going to prosper in this game mode that's that's the way I think about it and that's not necessarily because you know we get to the late game um we get to the late game sooner it's because you take a look at okay if we restart the game you have a look at this right so just hypothetically let's say I want to go for a two TC song song and I'm up against a French opponent okay now we start the game with a lot of villagers here but just just bear with me just just chill okay so what I'm gonna do I'm not gonna touch anything and I'm just gonna move my sheep a little bit closer let's get let's go pick up these sheep and we'll head out over onto the middle of the map Okay so move these guys over and we're just going to cancel a couple of these villagers and we've got one in the queue here and we've got our lumber Camp so Imperial Academy can go down right there and we're up against you know we're up against the the French hypothetically okay let's just say that so all I need to do is I'm just going to grab three vilts right here and I'm just gonna go throw down my Barbican it's already ready to go uh I might do I throw another villain queue I'll throw another villain queue all right so Barbican comes down 38 seconds uh beautiful little spot here actually we can even move it over a little bit more but I think this is fine for now all right and I'm gonna queue up another villager and I'm gonna be looking for my Song Dynasty now if I wanted to go for an early Barracks I could do that I've got the wood to do it uh but I think the point is that very happily I could be aging up and then just going for a second TC obviously I'm gonna go for my Song Dynasty um but very easily now I'm gonna be able to move over towards that second TC Song Dynasty because now I can just do this and this gives you a huge Advantage because normally you're looking for like two TC Song Dynasty at a very early stage so I think if anything this very much Buffs up civilizations that are kind of looking to play a bit more of a greedy game I suspect that that things may get aggressive very quickly like as an example if we take a look at the French they I know in this game mode they do actually start with an extra villager or sorry I think it's an extra three villagers that they start with so what that means and I I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see it is players are going to be looking to age up with like 10 villages on the on the first landmark and get units out but just remember though that the defender is is going to be favored even in in this matchup so okay let's have a look all right so I'm just gonna immediately uh pull all of these sheep in like that so remember all all Sims are different but I tell you what I I think China feels pretty good I I wouldn't be surprised if China gets a Nerf though just judging by that um so let's pull all these down so what did we what would we want I mean realistically you could just take all of these wood Villages right here and just build your Landmark with it I mean we could look for early upgrades here as well but we're not gonna do it we're just gonna do like a hypothetical Rush as quickly as we can let's go everyone here School of Cavalry on the front line boom throw it down we can throw out our truth range as soon as we're up as well and let's get our upgrades through so we'll start with the wheelbarrow let's get our let's get everything just because we can uh but you can say we're aging up pretty quickly here so you can definitely put on pressure right and like let's say that's the Chinese players Stone mine so they're gonna need to go into an early racks it basically just gets the game started a lot sooner than what it would otherwise but I still think that that really does favor some civilizations we can move out over onto stone with these guys as well we've got lots of resources in the bank I wouldn't be surprised if a 2tc style does kind of develop the same way and I don't really know how much it's going to deviate from the matter but my suspicion as I said I think a lot of the civilizations that that want to try and get through further into the game it's going to give them a lot of favorability I think for the deli saltner in particular uh it might be a bit interesting for them because that ideally they want to research their upgrades like you want to get your wheelbarrows in you want to get all those so I think that might adversely affect them um when it comes to the Marlins I guess this this civilization it's probably going to be changing the way that it looks to play but I suspect there's not going to be too much of an impact on these two civilizations so I I think when it comes to sort of the the difference that you're going to see in these uh or in Empire Wars I think that this is going to be the effect on it I don't necessarily think that's going to be um the outcome or the actual balance and look at the amount of resources we've already got through I mean at this point right like this is kind of wild let's get let's get that mining camp down over there and villagers so now we're up at a minute 37 and you guys all get back back to work over there I don't know what you just said about the TC he said something about the TC uh and now we can like we can start getting our extra upgrades let's get let's get that upgrade let's throw another Knight in queue out here I mean it just feels really really nice uh playing Empire Wars because I I think the the most exciting thing about playing Empire Wars is that you don't really have to wait to get into the game right like often we're trying to master the early game but here you don't even have to do that the game has already begun for you so two minutes and 10 seconds we've got the Knight heading out archery range if we wanted to probably don't need it lots of Villas on the gold we've got a second night uh coming out we've got the resources to throw down additional ones as well let's get our Horticulture in and of course we're going for that that third chance or that second town center right here but our first night comes in let's see if we can find anything there we go that'll do it villager number one yoink and we'll come around here we might be able to get lucky let's go let's send the Knight over to the back side I didn't even give these guys uh control groups yet and that TC is now coming down I didn't even we didn't even move our Scout oh my God look at this we've got the quadruple double right here okay that did not work you guys get the point though right like this this is looking very very solid very happy uh early on we're we're doing a classic three TC build here with the French the point is that that Empire Wars looks pretty good right so let's let's talk about what each of these civilizations get we've kind of gone into it what the strengths is you understand so your base civilization is going to be the French so if we're just going to do an assessment just on that obviously we just played them there but we're just going to take a look at what they get and how each civilization is different uh from the next civilization because there are some pretty wacky changes that the devs have made in here which I will be showing you so the French we start off and we've got 29 villagers we've got a scout we've got our extra sheep because you do get a couple of extra sheep and you've got four wheels in queue nothing crazy right like you've got a mill on the berries you've got the mining camp and you've got the lumber Camp so coming into this game like you might just be thinking all right just straight away wheelbarrow all right nice and easy just immediately come in Click the wheelbarrow bam done so that's it it actually now that I think about it English are pretty adversely affected because they kind of want to go sometimes they like to do early minute arms in some matchups and they also like to go for longbows very early kind of the same way that the French do so I'm going to say that's not the best but at the same time they do like to Boom so maybe it's kind of like it hurts them but at the same time it it it doesn't really um so yeah we've got your seven bills on on gold you've got nine Villas out here on wood and then you've got 13 on food with of course some villagers in queue so yeah and look at that by the time you're ready to age up I mean look at that you can you can basically squeeze that wheelbarrow in there just with with free macros you probably put another villain queue just in case but you guys get the point so that's what the french get so let's take a look at the next civilization so we'll go with the Abbasid now because this is a pretty interesting one the Abbasid Dynasty uh and I know we probably shouldn't like beat around it too much um uh what do I want to do I want to go change the map state to revealed for the abbaside dynasty because what you're about to see is gonna get pretty crazy let's change the map let's go to a map like hmm what could we do we could probably do let's go like dry Arabia okay and let's just see how it works because it might work might not work uh thought revealed actually revealed doesn't really work for them because they're gonna have to find their uh their trading posts anyway but let's have a look and see what we get with the absent Dynasty because I tell you what you might be a little bit weirded out by this Abbasid Dynasty start with their Golden One activation we've got twelve eight and six so if we do it so we've got 26 villes so remember 26 bills is like the base number uh French get an extra three bills okay but look at this you've got a market and not only that a market in the Dark Age remember we're in the Dark Age here the market can train Traders and the Traders are cheaper so at the very beginning of the game you can begin trading with your Market as the abbaside dynasty that's kind of wild now your Market is not unlocked so you're not going to be able to put down the market in the corner um but it's very very interesting the fact that you can head straight into that so I actually think that Abbasid Dynasty trade Wing might become like a legit legitimate thing right like already you can see I could have squeezed in three Traders here why is that training so quickly it's not really training quickly so I could have squeezed in three Traders here and I think you can just kind of make the Traders or just like March them out onto the map because you have a rough idea of where they're going to be um The Trading Post and obviously with the trade changes this is like this is pretty crazy when you think about it uh and then from there I mean you're just kind of like waiting for your age up there's a couple of different ways that you can look to play it but I think overall like you probably just drop it Barracks down what else are you going to be spending your resources on in the transition I think that's one thing to note actually now that I think about it if anything this adversely affects the abbaside Dynasty and I'm going to bring them down because of that I I will suspect that they might suffer quite a bit this this is where it gets tough right like so so Abby said can't rush their wings right like it's a minute 45 for every single wing bad luck I I've got how many how many Villas am I on I'm on 26 bills there were four in the queue I can't make this age up go any faster so that means that you know sure I I can go with like a defensive Barracks or two defensive Barracks or something like that but I'm still gonna be behind my enemy I'm going to be behind on text I'm gonna be behind on a second Town Center I'm gonna be behind on you know and you've got to remember right if you're going for a second Town Center you need to wait for fertile crescent to come through so if anything I'd almost be tempted to say maybe what the devs could do and I don't want to get too crazy here is maybe reduce the first Wing coming through for the Abbasid even just like 15 seconds 20 seconds something like that just I know you don't want to draw too much away like you want to try and keep the balance the same and I guess that's where it gets hard so I don't know maybe make them start with a bit more starting resources maybe that's the way that you do it just so that they can click up immediately because every other sieve is going to probably be getting up there I mean like you saw we saw with the French there that was like a one minute 30 age up and here you're about a minute behind that uh so it it gets pretty heavy um so that's the Abbasid opening so very very uh very interesting and we do see obviously we go into the Traders so now I'm sitting on what is that three six Traders and I obviously could have added a lot more two minutes into the game I reckon I can I reckon you know what I I reckon with the episode I don't want to go back in and do it because I've already shown you guys the opposite I reckon you can probably get like 10 Traders very early on all right so next civilization we're going to take a look at is the Deli Salt nut so the Deli Salt nut uh obviously in the early game their bonus is Scholars but where I think this gets interesting is it reduces the amount of decision making you're going to need if you're a deli fan because I don't ever think you're going to see um I don't think you're going to see the um what's it called the dummy the faith ever ever clicked I don't think you'll ever see this clicked again it's always just going to be Tower Victory you've got four Scholars you start with four Scholars and your research is already in Q take a look at this efficient production is already in queue wheelbarrow is already in queue you can see it right there and at this point I mean we're just chilling right now I mean we could go into the Dome of the faith but already like lots of Villas uh what do we have to start here it's 26 bills so we've just trained one uh four Scholars and we have the Scout so this is already like massive for them and they've got lots of houses um in the early game but I mean like there you go age up coming through what are we doing Let's do let's do these bad boys Tower Victory throw it down uh we've got four Villas on this but honestly you can pull more um to be honest you probably want to pull your gold bills to do it and then you're just going to throw down double blacksmith on the age up you can throw down the barracks as well you probably want to you probably want to do that as soon as you age and maybe I don't even know I don't actually know how you want to play this but the point is Deli Deli actually looks pretty good in this game mode what do we what did we call them on this list we call them C just because uh you are going to be wanting to work towards sanctity actually does it really offset by a lot now that I think about it I mean the wheelbarrow is not that slow and the fact that you've got the the mask um with the four Scholars inside and you can see right now just how how quick we're aging up that's eight Villas on that um let's let's get a couple of of these Sperry boys out you know what I'm gonna put Deli up a little bit um but this is what I'm like sort of like taking balanced considerations into account not just the civilization mechanics because now we're going to go through with party I reckon you you know what I reckon we could have slipped in a scholar there but now we come through sanctity immediately getting research we're at two minutes you're gonna be looking to take sacred sites before the four minute Mark and that's kind of wild that is kind of wild uh so the age up comes through you can immediately throw down you know whatever you want to do something like that maybe maybe do maybe do a little bit of that you know the good old-fashioned uh maybe drop the mosque down in this thing but like obviously we've got so many resources in the bank uh Delhi definitely you know what I'm gonna change the way that I'm doing this I reckon Delhi salting it is going to be a good sieve in in this now that I've like now that I've seen how powerful those Scholars are on the start I'm kind of even tempted to put them up in estia that that's kind of wild you can have all your texts in really quickly Tower of Victory is going to be mandatory but the thing is ah yeah because we we want to go into our Cavalry see but if we're going into cavalry oh now now I'm well now I'm now I'm curious oh now I'm now I'm really curious okay okay all right I've just thought you know what I need to do I need to host a tournament and the problem is I'm hosting a tournament right now I'm hosting Outback octagon 2. we're gonna do Empire Wars we're gonna do an Empire Wars tournament what am I going to call it Empire we need a good name if you've got any recommendations for an Empire Wars tournament feel free to put it down in the comments we're going to be running two tournaments simultaneously it's going to be happening I don't know when we're going to do it we're going to do it very quick and we're going to do it on the pop as well it's going to be an Empire Wars tournament I'm gonna I'm gonna put the call out there right now uh if you've got any name suggestions please let me know let's continue moving on those so it needs to be something catchy right like Outback octagon is just so good because it's like octagon it's eight sides so you know octagon and there's eight players so it's really good octagon also refers to uh the um you know like fighting in the Octagon like the UFC sort of thing and then out back obviously Australian theme so it just works so well Outback octagon it was wonderful so if you come up with anything Empire Wars themed uh tournament let me know and of course I I will give you much love that's about it I can't really give you much more than that um so ottomans uh we're gonna check out the rust here uh so Russ obviously hunting cabin is one thing to watch out for now I do know that apparently crackity played a game as with the russ on Empire Wars and his hunting cabin was giving him six gold a minute and yeah you can kind of see the problem right like the hunting cabin is spawning back here and the houses are taking the spots of the hunting cabin like look how terrible these hunting cabin spawns are okay so we start off and we're on 26. you do get two Scouts though as the rules to start with ending the wooden Fortress is already down which reduces the strength of the Kremlin so I don't know what these arrows in the middle mean uh but I guess it's kind of like telling you you could choose one or the other um so yeah I think that's a bit interesting so that reduces the strength of the Kremlin down but I mean the Golden Gate's obviously just such a great Landmark that it's an st landmark by itself so I mean the roofs have got two St landmarks in Age Two so maybe we see that come through um I think that when it comes to yeah look at this seven gold a minute on that one at Goldman on that like it's like you're just losing so much here with the russ I guess the one thing to note is that having two hunting cabins like maybe you could be moving into professional Scouts quite early but you're not going to have that passive gold you do have the second Scout which means actually from a Russ standpoint that's pretty good because now all of a sudden from the beginning of the game oh actually you know what now that I think about it maybe the power of the Russ is in what I'm about to do right now and I'm sure you probably realize as soon as I do it uh exactly what's gonna happen but the power of the rust might just simply be in this start off double Scout over towards the enemy base uh and you double click your hunting cabin and make two let's let's get two uh scouts out there you go look yeah look at this hunting cap this hunting cabin's on wait do you get three hunting cabins wait my last hunting cabin wasn't on the berries was it on the berries and it was just awkwardly placed now it probably doesn't really make sense right now because I don't have um I've got fog of War turned on because I'm an absolute baboon um so let's just let's go back into it and show you what I'm thinking but it could actually be good like you might actually get a lot of bounty in the games that you play as Russ and maybe that could offset it especially because 500 Bounty now with the russ is so strong so we straight away go to the end the enemy base cancel both of those and now immediately go into that we can also look to pick up an early wheelbarrow I mean everybody kind of gets the early wheelbarrow so it's really not that like crazy strong so once again we're just looking to pick up our um I reckon if there's a hunt that's probably going to be in that direction we're just looking to pick up our early hunt villagers getting rallied down here uh let's let's do we get an early wheelbarrow maybe let's just get an early wheelbarrow like we're not in the rush here we're gonna get so much passive gold from our um our deer killing so one two three four five six seven and then this guy is gonna come up here that guy's gonna go down there but you guys get the point right and we do know that there is a um all right there we go we can hear that age up coming through from the enemy already so we're just gonna check behind their base first uh so we've got wheelbarrow coming through on that we got survival techniques as well but I don't think we need to go into survival techniques so it's already pretty hard for like the enemy so now at this point so pause what do we want to do here uh maybe we want to go in the second Town Center that could be a thing but maybe we just put like these six villes here on the Golden Gate like maybe that's it you take eight gold bills because you're already gonna be getting your gold in from here so we haven't been very lucky on our Dearborn so maybe who knows let's go down that way and then this guy's gonna kill that hunt all right we did get Survival techniques probably didn't need to do that uh let's train a few Villas here so we got survival techniques we've got wheelbarrow coming through and our Bounty is kind of like skyrocketing at this point we still haven't found either of those hunts so we found two there's there we go so let's get all of those and there's that last one so I'm I'm confident that you would be able to find at least three out of the four hunts pretty much every single game uh as the Russ and that's gonna put you in a really good position for Bounty so I think if anything the rust should be pretty strong in this game mode and I remember there was a wolf back up here just simply because like look at the age up time like we're not that far behind where we'd want to be and obviously like my macro is terrible at this point but you get that extra 20 wood production in the beginning of the game so even if we take a look at like your start which is 26 villes two Scouts you get the wooden Fortress which isn't really 26 bills it's actually you know the 20 on the eight which is closer to two Villages so that's not too crazy when you think about it in the scheme of things um you're basically running like a couple of extra bills here so I think that's that's pretty good um maybe the rules are actually not that bad it's interesting how this list is changing because I I'm kind of like actually might be kind of good Bruce might be kind of good it's you kind of get screwed on those hunting cabins but I don't think we should anchor ourselves to think oh these hunting cabins I'm only getting six gold like don't think of it like that think of it I've got two Scouts that I start with and then I get two more Scouts from my double hunting cabins immediately into the game I don't lose a scout on the Town Center as well so you I'm thinking Bruce might be good here dude you know what I'm I'm putting all the sieves hold on hold on reset the game reset right now the Playbook uh what have we tested already we tested the Abbasid Dynasty I think the ABC Dynasty are probably gonna be uh you know what I'm gonna put them in seat here Delhi sultanate they're going in Atia Russia going in Atia but obviously this might change uh depending on where Things Fall let's go into the Mongols this is a civilization I don't think it's going to be that good just simply because they rely on early aggression and you're not going to have that option to do a regression no don't get me wrong you can go take four Villages over there and I like put a barracks on your Uber or what not early on in the game but you're gonna be behind where you would so let's take a look and see what we've got 26 Villas a lot of sheep and we've got the Khan so standard start one girl two girls all the pastures are on the uh oh and you start with the Uber so we've got two girls and the pastures are are on the UVU okay okay all right okay I like this I like this a lot dude man they have done such a good job with this they have seriously done such a good job with this so where do we go we go let's start it off with a wheelbarrow why not why the heck not two girls two pastures and the Uber I mean I don't really know how to think about it like other than this is really good for Mongol food sources and like because you've got these pastures from the very beginning of the game now don't get me wrong all right like normally you're not gonna be making two girls early normally you're not did that sheep hey bro can you like go down here uh so normally you're not gonna be making pastures early you're not gonna be making it go early so it's I feel like you're not really gaining from the things that you've got as much as some other sieves might be so because of this I'm going to say that I think the Mongols are probably down in the sea Terrace I think this adversely affects it think about it like this right B is you're kind of the same a is that you you get Buffs C is that it it hurts you worse and if anything I'm gonna put absolute in detail even though I do think it favors them and they do start they do start with the market though it will go C10 we'll go CTF for now let's let's wait it out okay we're still going we're still going we're still going all right so Holy Roman Empire let's check in with the Giga Chads see how they're doing here in this game mode because remember like what what's your goal your goal your goal is to get castle age okay how quick are we gonna be able to get costlage here oh my God now that I think about it oh this could be disgusting oh they they could actually be estia you want to know the reason why pause it quickly look at this gold here right here all of the all of the food keep in mind you start with extra sheep okay oh this could be absolutely busted I'm okay I'm gonna go for the world's fastest fast Castle here with the Holy Roman Empire let's see what we can do now just keep in mind Holy Roman Empire doesn't actually really naked fast Castle anymore so let's take a look and see what's it gonna be all right pull all these guys in uh Scout can you come out here for me please let's go uh all these Villas are on all these Villas are on wood do we even need wood at the moment how many products have I got okay oh I got one product on the gold and one product on the wood already so there's a part of me that's just thinking okay so we we want to get these over here and I don't tell me I've killed all the Sheep already that's okay we're fine we're fine all right everybody out over here now we've got eight Villas I'm even tempted to bring more I think Eight's still a pretty decent amount icon Chapel gonna be coming down should be able to get the arkhan that looks good to me we'll just go right there so that's eight bills on the arkhen I'm almost tempted like let's add more villes onto the arkhan let's pull these a bit closer you're gonna come out over here actually I mean we just keep that there because that I don't know where that hits exactly and then this guy's gonna jump in you're gonna have absolutely insane a drops here so we're just gonna make sure all of all of these guys go back to the right spot this guy's gonna come over here like we're already at 300 gold here we're just gonna kill all of these I probably could have brought these over to the ark and I probably I probably still can not that guy though inside please and so now we're going for that fast castle that super fast Castle yeah like this this feels kind of crazy right like uh because the idea is that you just get your arkans so quickly and your arkhan's going to give you that the Boost immediately and because you've already got so many Villas it's very early on not a lot of military out already so you can very much take advantage of of all of this uh so and we've got two prelates as well so it means that we can look to start picking up relics super early on foreign okay so you're going out to that one let's pop you out you can go out up to here we want another prelate it's Force drop let's move this product can come out over here and then this product will come here and we're gonna go let's do a double stable now we're probably under pressure at this point we're three we're almost three minutes into the game we need to find those relics I'm sure we'll find them eventually there's one all right our Stables are a bit slow here but we can definitely get we can definitely improve that do we see any relics give me my relics okay Holy Roman Empire's S2 definitely definitely asked here uh a little bit slow here on the gold the double Knight production straight away I mean we do have a bit of a problem in our gold is on the front here but overall like that's three relics picked up did this guy did did you not pick up that did it not work I must not have worked uh yeah that that's um that's completely busted that is that that that's gonna be FTL uh that's crazy good um oh that is crazy good I can't believe how good that is uh that is wow so it all really just comes down to the power of the pro of the the propeller together with the Arkham Chapel I think and to be honest like in in watching how that played out I I think I'd be pretty happy with that because he used the wood for the stables and you need the Stables to defend early on um but like just just having a look at that again so you start off 26 two and one uh yeah like that's just absolutely crazy um that's wild and you don't even need the arkan on the gold because you've got the second prelate to gather up the gold uh yeah you just throw the arkan down you can even throw it down on the wood as long as it's touching the TC and then you're getting you know what maybe you even throw the icon down like in a position like this right like when you think about it so we leave all of these guys no I'm not gonna do it again uh that that's gonna be fun okay all right uh Holy Roman Empire definitely gonna be Str there uh now we've already talked about French a little bit uh let's go into another game and just review what they've got because I do think the the French are probably going to be lowered down quite a bit on this tier list just because they do try and like I I don't think you're going to be playing the French in the same way that you play other Sims so 29 or I don't think you're going to be playing the French in the way that you play them in 1v1 normal I think you're going to be coming in with that uh you'll come in with your uh your very standard opening here and I you know what I wouldn't be surprised if people even go Chamber of Commerce I do think um I do think French is uh is is still quite a strong civilization so I'm curious to see exactly what players look to do here but you know what maybe not Chamber of Commerce I think it's probably still going to be uh the the Cavalry one so we probably want to the thing is we want to use our ville's here to age up like our woodville's uh our aging up Villas so I mean I'm gonna put School recovery in a pretty bad spot here but you're throwing that down and like let's say we're against the Holy Roman Empire right so we've just we've done that and I mean Holy Roman Empire honestly like if I'm playing against the French I just throw it out of barracks and I laugh at you as I defend and I just go Castle immediately and then I start getting nights out that are you know Elite or not Elite but uh the castle age nights how do you even deal with that man it's so quick I'm gonna be in Imperial by like seven minutes so already I feel like I don't have enough Villas on this landmark now I could like let's say I'm going against the Holy Roman Empire maybe I want to go all in see the thing is I can't even pull these guys off um oh I just noticed something okay uh the devs made a change it was right click oh that that annoys me I hope there's a way to turn that off right click cancels a build menu but you know what else it does it also prevents an action hold on that didn't work okay that works Q right click Q right click oh never mind okay that's fine that's fine I thought it prevented the action so w and then let's go double range that is perfect parting that's exactly what I wanted I don't know how long we weren't training uh I don't know how long we weren't training for uh we've got a second night in queue but let's cancel that and let's go double broad ax instead I think we should be able to get our second night out in time because these guys are carrying gold so as long as they hand in that'll be okay and now we get our second night out so let's get this guy out obviously not doing the best job scouting here uh but let's do that and now we've got seven over on that okay so I mean you can put on some pretty decent pressure early on even with this I can I can go into third I could just I mean I could just throw that down if we really want to get GUI about it way too many of those in queue right now oops that's not what I wanted I wanted another one of those and we are starting to run out of did I not didn't didn't Scout not join this control group must enough sorry Mr Scout s so we're three minutes into the game the Holy Roman Empire player has just reached Castle age but obviously I mean I'm putting on some pretty good pressure here Barracks is now up so we're going to drop a second Barracks as well to the front here and let's get our next so you can see I'm throwing down these Knights I don't need to be I can be getting like upgrades here so you can put on some pretty decent pressure I think French and French are probably going to be an advanced sieve when it comes to if you are if you're a lower level player do not be playing French in Empire Wars I think this civilization is definitely going to be an aggressive uh just judging by this kind of this start it feels really good um I can see right there yeah I mean this look at the number of units we're at four minutes here but I mean even even against this right like a single Outpost see The Outpost doesn't uh you know what I think the Holy Roman Empire will still be able to crush this uh to be honest uh so French I think oh probably not that badly affected definitely not in the same tiers as these guys so I'm just gonna go put them in the BT for now all right next civilization who's coming up it's the Chinese we obviously started this video off with the Chinese but I I want to be thorough I've done solid assessments of all the other civilizations let's focus on the Chinese what is the best civilization going to be in Empire Wars is it going to be the Chinese and I tell you right now the fact that the Holy Roman Empire is estia means probably not so let's double check 26 villagers to start with two Imperial officials that's big now remember that the prelate Buffs things up a static amount 40 Imperial officials do the same thing 20 the Imperial official is not capped on how many villages it can buff though it can buff 75 villagers all at the same time because it empowers or supervisors the one economic building whereas the pallet is is capped to how much it can do so this is a big bonus when you think about it uh in from that perspective so I'm curious to see exactly how the openings go I wouldn't be surprised if you see something like this happen where players immediately take all of their villagers down here and the Imperial official goes over onto gold and you're gonna be looking for a really fast Song Dynasty where's our Scout let's pick up our starting sheep there's another one over there and let's cancel these um so our age up we want to put our Barbican down so let's let's do say four villages on the Barbican Barbican comes down at 33 seconds all right we're picking up some more sheep which is nice now I don't think let's oh that was a bad idea living right then so let's hand in and then drop off tax see we're already like pretty much taxed out at this point so these guys can come back over here and these guys I mean they can just go to Wood after because we want to go into that third TC right so now all of these guys that doesn't that doesn't look the best let's pull a few of these guys off uh we need to drop the landmark uh let's let's do the landmark here there we go all right so we just need a handful of Villas these guys are going to go out there so song is still going to be coming through shortly now we got 11 Villas on wood but we're not supervising oh that's a good call we're not supervising we want to be supervising so let's go do that so I do I I think China is going to be pretty strong here when it comes to matching the Holy Roman Empire I don't know if you're gonna do that off two TCS you're probably gonna have to go one TC and then try and look to control relics uh these guys probably want to come over to food except for you you keep on keep on your wood grind my friend all right and at 900 we're dropping off cool and now we do our town center oops that's the wrong button there we go cool and now you can go back here cool and now we're we're Song Dynasty 2tc is at two minutes and 15 seconds which seems crazy but remember everybody gets like really big bonuses right like the biggest bonus China gets is like oh Imperial officials like that that's pretty much it um okay so from here then what we just go like out to here but the thing is because we want to go to TC Song Dynasty so yeah look I think the bonus hey you don't do that not my house baby so definitely like you've got the option like French timing was hitting about three minutes uh maybe a little bit before that you've got the Barbican up I think China is going to be a really strong Contender here um for a lot for this just mainly because you're yeah yeah you're just gonna be able to get safe like I'm literally two TC Song Dynasty I can just sit here spamming I mean my Gold's a little bit exposed and I'm sure that if if someone wanted to put on pressure like if I'm playing against Lucifer on a Vortex I can't get away with the 2tc Song Dynasty it's not gonna work uh but I I do think China will be Str just simply because two CC 2tc song is going to be incredibly difficult to stop um with the exception of maybe like a French one base aggro play um all right so let's go on to the next step it's gonna be the English everybody's favorite obviously my main civilization at the moment but I am probably going to be switching to French uh which I know sounds a little bit crazy but I assure you there is a reason um so let's take a look at the English oh my God they get Farms oh that's so cute oh that is so cute okay so English start off 26 villes uh as you would expect that they get farms and that that is just so funny and look at the farms are in front of the base as well and it's like and the Gold's behind the base so you want to make your TC back here uh but you don't want your Farms to be at the front like this now you you can just start it off I mean it's up to you how you want to play this game right like and you've got the extra sheep as well and the fact that you've got the farms at the beginning means that your food sources are just crazy efficient um English age up coming through uh what are we even doing here I mean we just go for a council Hall uh let's put the council Hall down just there excuse me we need a little bit more food here thank you uh and now we're just gonna take our gold bills and go put them on Stone right like that's it we've got a hundred wood in the bank um so we can look to get an upgrade but obviously we should have pulled those off a little bit earlier uh we'll take four of these Villas over here let's move everybody over onto that so we're looking for that second TC how many Villas are we building it with with five Villas to me that to me that almost feels like a critical mistake here because we're once again playing the English you're looking for that second TC right early on or at least most people are you can always look to play aggressive as well that's another thing to note but I think that something like this should be more than possible see yeah I mean we should have 100 Stone in the bank right now so it's a little bit late on this maneuver over here but overall um I think for the English this is this feels pretty good the fact that you've got these farms and remember like we're talking about bonuses or the bonuses how good are the bonuses and how how meaningful are they right because you're playing the Mongols and you've got two girls it's like what do I need two girls for do you know what I mean like you you've already got your you need one you already start off with one girl in a normal game and that's going on gold Monger players are gonna have all their under the TC they've got their pastures rallying towards us so the two the second girl is not meaningful the pastures they're nice it's nice to have them but are they significant well to be honest I would have just preferred like an extra couple hundred wood in the bank anyway I mean it's kind of nice having them at the start but for the English you're going to be going into these relatively early I mean we're you're going to be adding these farms in it what five six seven minutes for most English players this is great this is a meaningful bonus this is a solid bonus a really good bonus for the English um so as you can see my macro is is off I should have right now 180 resources in here I should have enough to drop down a second TC at one minutes 48 as the English here I don't um but you guys get the point I think the English is pretty well affected by this now you're not going to be able to get out of the gates the same way that you could actually you know what let's let's test it let's say okay I wanna I'm I'm an English Russia I love rushing as the English how good is it Let's uh let's let's take a look okay so I'm going to start off just by canceling the village that are in queue I'll leave one in there um and we're gonna go up with I mean we've got our gold in the back of the base again is this like the exact same spawn it feels like it's the exact I think it might actually be the identical spawn to what we had in the last game can we have another player in the game we might not yeah we don't okay that's why okay so let's just hypothetically say that there is another player in the game all right so we've got our 200 gold wheeler yeah and well now I'm moving to drop out Council Hall down so Council Hall is going to come down I'm gonna drop a Barracks down at the same time with two Villas and I'm gonna pull these guys through and I'm gonna rally out towards this as well just because we we wanna we are really in the mood to rush right now we we don't like people living on the same map as us not that there's anybody else on this map but you guys get the point uh so two Villas on the barracks is probably too much that's definitely the case so you can head back over there now we've got lots of houses we've got a nice little stack of four here so we don't have to worry about that too much food is starting to become an issue though uh so we're gonna have to think about that from our macro uh where's our Scout let's let's uh let's go Scout down on existent enemy because remember we don't actually have an enemy against us right now we're gonna pretend that we do all right so age UPS come through it's I mean we got 12 Wheels on The Landmark you probably don't want more than that uh and immediately we click those buttons let's get a few more Villas out over here and we're just gonna start producing units like absolute Madman Council Hall is working overtime uh we could probably even throw you know what I'm gonna rally a couple Villas out over here we got another spearing queue we don't have a villain queue I need to get a villain queue hand in guys that's not good we should never be doing that but I guess we got it you gotta when the times get tough all right so we've we've found the enemy it's a sacred site so we're gonna rally out towards this position failed so just make sure that we've got you're not thank you I mean this this feels really good it looks really good we start running out of food it's not going to happen but you know hypothetically if we do uh we are going to be able to transition into Farms let's throw down a blacksmith as well um so it definitely seems like uh why is that not giving me there we go that should give oh my God this is it's actually terrible they've they up the council Hall thing you can't have was it always like that I don't think it was always like that was it surely not uh we want to keep those bills there for the moment definitely need a few more Villas over on wood especially if we're going into something like Siege engineering here uh but I mean you can definitely be very aggressive here I mean the uh we can we can clearly say we're in the enemy base right now before the Holy Roman Empire player has aged up what time did we age up it was like three minutes or something I think we were was it sub three minutes Castle age I think it was I'd have to double check but I don't think I I think this is like this is definitely uh a good thing for the English I think they are they are positively affected by this let's take a look at our next civilization it's gonna be the Marlins let's jump in and have a look exactly what they get so I'm thinking maybe cows could they get cows potentially they get pit mine maybe a pit mine with maxed out houses around it that will be pretty nice actually uh let's take a look and see exactly what they're getting yes all they get they start with cars right you know that there's going to be people mad like Marley and villagers need to stop killing the cows can you make a pasture in no you can't it comes in the hold on okay question can I get my villagers not to kill that cow if I'm playing the Marlins all right I've got to be real quick with this because I want to keep it no no I don't think you can I can't even select my units dude I'm gonna try one more time one more time ah the cow always goes down the cow will always go down you can save one okay so we save Bessie all right so we've got two cows 26 bills um and we have got a full ring of houses on the pit mine Woodline we've got the mill already early on so you could be looking at a pretty quick age up whether you want to play it Eco whether you want to get aggressive early on uh that will depend but obviously with cattle with the new Buffs to cattle I suspect more people are going to be looking for them earlier on uh I guess trade changed as well so people might be looking for that uh man it's a quarry though we'll throw that bad boy down yeah I mean to be honest I I feel like it doesn't give them much but it doesn't take like if if you like playing the Marlins you will like playing the Marlins in Empire Wars right like it's a very simple translation into into this game mode right like I guess that's probably the best way to say it like not translation but you guys get like a port um it doesn't hurt them it doesn't give them any Buffs it's really very simple it's like here's Marlins where there's you know everything that you'd expect all right let's take a look at the Ottomans nothing really to say about the Marlins honestly like I I it doesn't yeah that doesn't affect them in any real way Ottomans all right uh my understanding is that this civilization is actually the only civilization that is adversely affected very much so yes yes you heard that correctly Ottomans fans so we start off with 26 villagers six uh we we've got our uh our sheep to start off with and we've got a blacksmith and a military school but take a look where they spawn um interesting position for a blacksmith in a military school because last time I checked this is not a mining camp let's have a look let's restart the game and see what it looks like we're we're playing against the second player so it should give us a different spawn now let's have a look and see what it looks like on another spawn um [Laughter] sure right oh I want to put a Barracks down oh yeah no worries uh here uh here [Music] um and it's at the front of your base you have a military school and I'm blacksmith at the front of your base it is not this on top of that like you don't have pressure from the military school in the Dark Age uh to be fair though this Spearman does feel like it's coming out very quickly why is this Spearman coming out so quickly I guess it's already got the blacksmith right because I I guess the blacksmith is uh tier two right what percentage is it giving us here hmm I don't know because it says it gives 20 20 30 40. does it not give a percentage do you think that's the case let's put I want to rush this Landmark down do you think so it was 55 55 seconds before yeah 54 I think it's like 56 yeah 56. so 56 seconds before so 20 of 56 seconds uh drongo math coming in right now it's uh it's a lot well I mean if we see any reduction at all it's going to indicate that the blacksmith doesn't work until let's have a look oh so okay so you do and you do get the extra vizier points or at least it looks like you get quite a few extra busier points as well um so it looks like you get the blacksmith bonus in the Dark Age so I mean that that's something that it's got going for it um but I think realistically the ottomans are severely hampered by this because now not only like is there something wrong with all of this blank space in the back of my base I think that's a Taylor Swift song I'd have to double check the lyrics but you get the point so this is where I I sort of come in and say okay ottomans are definitely detier uh sorry to all my ottoman fans out there um so the thing is I shouldn't put them in the detail because the reality is this adversely affects them but is it really going to be impactful in your game I don't think so I think similarly to the malians if you're a Malian or an ottoman enjoyer you're gonna enjoy the Ottomans here but I do think that they are impacted significantly by these changes so what's my proposal how would I change this okay so if you've ever seen the cheat in a jiffy in a jiffy what is in a jiffy inner Jiffy makes it so that your buildings build instantly it basically increases your movement speed or your your build speed by a million now it also increases like the speed that villagers gathered in increases the speed that villagers train so what I'm going to demonstrate though is essentially what you could do here as as the devs if you if you wanted to if not that's perfectly fine if we put in a jiffy on okay what I'm going to do is I'm going to train or build a barracks and you see how that built instantly so what's my proposal my proposal is that you would have like a ticket a free ticket uh where you could choose where you wanted to put your buildings down now I don't think they're going to do this I think they're probably just going to say look stronger if you get a bad spawn bad luck uh that's part of it because that's just the easy thing to do right but the reality is that some of these spawns then they're not the nicest spawns for our Ottoman friends but I mean that's that's something that you they they could look to do you know maybe put two houses down and then give you two House tickets to put down two free houses something like that I don't know maybe just yeah look they're probably not going to change it I don't I I'm not even going to say that let's do that as an improvement because I probably wouldn't improve the game um overall I'm incredibly excited for Empire Wars I messaged a couple of the guys that I uh that uh that also make content and I said I'm excited for Empire Wars like I I think this is actually going to be legit it seems really fun games get going quickly uh it's not like Age of Empires 2 and Age of Empires 2 your uh very much prevented um from from speeding up the game um just by the age up times whereas in a dream place for you if you want to age up with 12 Villas on your Landmark go for it if you want to age up with three go for it uh it's very the control is up or is is in in the hands of the players so I think overall um this is incredibly exciting my main concern as I said is going to be balanced for these two sims at the top so uh interesting to note prelates and Imperial officials so maybe the devs might need to tone back the village accounts that we're getting on both of those sieves maybe instead of starting with 26 vills each they're starting with 24 bills each or even less you know 23 Villas each um just to try and help the balance out there because I think that these two steps are just going to be crazy good in Empire Wars but anyway I'm curious what you guys think are you looking forward to Empire Wars do you want to see Empire Wars content are you excited about the prospect of an Empire Wars tournament if so let me know and of course I'll catch you guys in the next one thank you very much for watching goodbye

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Length: 56min 44sec (3404 seconds)

Published: Fri May 05 2023