Eric Hebborn - Portrait of a Master Forger

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One of the best art documentaries I've ever seen. Previously posted here:

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Really enjoyed this, especially his anecdote on how he was put in borstal! Also the whole doc reminded me of the 90s in a good way.

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the dealer is not interested in art he's interested in well basically money but you know worth of artists as good or bad as the price it fetches the art historian is not really very interested in art I mean he studies it but he's much more interested in his career whether he's going to go up in the nobody's we can come the head of some great museum look this is what he's really interested in and whether he can get a knighthood because he knows a lot about Rembrandt you know but no one would have ever given Rembrandt a knighthood for being Rembrandt you know serve it's all false values and art is neglected nobody is studying it really and truly with the kind of honesty that is necessary and although I can't myself claim to be a very honest man in fact though many people think I'm an old clock I do feel that in this case at least that I am honest I mean I do try to understand something about medieval hilltop village of antiquity Corrado to the east of Rome as for centuries been home to painters and sculptors 25 years ago English artist Eric had one came to live here how I shall freeze after all this son Here I am a gentleman at home a palace and thy loving and I love London and I love my English friends but when I'm in the Piazza here a local the old boys you know I feel that we may do the same stuff and they're not going to say all your your working-class guy I'm not going to say to them in all peasant make it on we have our grass of wine together happy about I think I would have been happy as artists in the relations and in the 20th century but I would have liked to have been employed in a different way rather than sort of having to be on the fringes of society were them being a little bit shaking all that heaven has devoted much of his life to the study of the Renaissance artists in particular the drawings made by the old masters as preparatory sketches for their oil paintings well I think what particularly appeals to people who are interested no mas joins it that they are of spontaneous expression of the artists are obviously drawing very great deal in whether they were made just sitting down doodling on his paper or of elaborate finished drawing of made a say as the cartoon for a painting but you do get a much more personal feel I think from the drawing how the artist I mean it is just I'm often Lee starting with Leonardo artists were really kind of thinking on paper I've made drawings in the Dutch style in the Flemish style in the German style in the Swiss style in the Italian style and I've even deigned to a few english drawings and some French toys and I've normally chosen important masters not necessarily the greatest because it's very hard to convince people nowadays when you turn up with a Rembrandt or Michelangelo or Leonardo they say let's go tell somebody else you know but nevertheless I've turned up with people like stefano delle bella and caste Leonean 17th century martyrs of some importance including Rubens and then Dyck so I have done some very very important artists and I wouldn't call gain for a wine artist normal I call constable a minor artist and all these people I have I have done nothing for ebon claims to have made over a thousand drawings in the style of scores of different artists from the 14th to the 20th century many of these drawings are now in the possession of some of the greatest private and national collections around the world from the British Museum to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York I'm not a crook I'm just doing what people have always done during the history of the world I mean ever since art was invented people have made imitations of it shall we say and I believe that the real criminal if there is one is the person who makes the false description I mean if I were to tell you that these this statue here is by facts Italy's for whoever it's been copied from I would be making false description even if I said it was Roman I would be making a post description because it's a modern copy but that doesn't mean to say that you can't enjoy it I mean you can enjoy the fake isn't necessarily bad as a work of art it is simply something that's wrongly described and age sometimes gives dignity to imitations providing there of some quality and they should be enjoyed for what they are rather than being questioned for what they're not the sale of several drawings in the style of Gustus John to a specialist dealer in London help finance have ones permanent moved to Italy in the summer of 1964 for the next decade business was brisk on the top floor of an old Palazzo in the heart of Rome's antique district a conveniently short walk from the Christie's sale room in Piazza Navona for a christie's sale in rome in 1974 everyone supplied twenty-four drawings in the style of various old masters these were attributed by Christie's to 16th century artists such as stefano delle bella luca cambiaso FR Bartolomeo as a self-styled dealer in old master drawings he born was able to offer his own efforts alongside perfectly genuine examples he called this bread and butter business panini galleries and quickly re-established links with the London art trade very soon after I went to court argues when a drawing was sent from Italy from some galleries called - Neely galleries by the Ambrogio either old or younger which had been in colleges in the 1930s it could be traced in a stock book and I think it may even been exhibited I really can't remember the state and this seemed to us a perfectly genuine nice drawing which the further they pleased to purchase back and as a result I think I'm going to be asleep fairly shortly after us I thought I might call on Erica Berlin who lived that time in room I bought a drawing in a sale not in one of the great sale room such as Christie's and Sotheby's and I noticed on the back of it a label the label of a dealer called corn Rd and I thought well you know if they had it's probably a decent drawing and I took it home and it said that it was by Blue Eagle so I hung it on the wall nice play proud I'd bought a boy girl for only 40 pounds I thought how the hell did I get it that cheap if it's a real boy Eagle then Wright was there for a few months then I began to look at it Nathan no this is not a boggle this is a copy I thought was an engravers coffee because in the old days the only ways of only way of reproducing drawings as you know for the engraver to make an engraving of it and we produce it so to make his engraving he first made a copy in the medium that the artists had used I thought that's what it is is and engravers copy then I wondered to myself well why can't I copy that this copy and make it little better then it'll be a little bit more like a viable so I said to work in that way and I made a copy a very close copy an almost exact copy but I speeded up the lines that if I gave a more vigorous movement and it did look a bit more like a boy/girl to me when I'd finished and then I did something I rather regret doing now I tore up the thing I copied the thing that been in the corn Rd frame I flushed it down the lavatory I rather wish I hadn't because it would be nice now to compare you know perhaps time you know perhaps I destroyed an original Weigel I hope not and it seems that the people in the Metropolitan Museum think the same thing I mean they they seem to be happy with my coffee I have talked very recent in the last day or two to the Metropolitan Museum who naturally have subjected it to very close our tests such as tests can be made and they say the paper is perfectly genuine the ink looks good for drawing of that date and though naturally they're keeping an open mind about it they can see absolutely nothing wrong with the dry I don't have to prove what I did it or not if they can't see it what kind of damned experts are they I mean they should be able to say this is definitely by Michael but then you ask them they say yes this is definitely by broeckel then you say to them is it by jangle the old or the gonca well we're quite sure about that professor so-and-so says it's the younger professor so-and-so says it's the older but it could be a very late follower that's my claim there are I mean I wanted to test you can do for ink but that does P suppose they had to be certain substances in the ink which were not known at their particular time but for the most part I mean it would not help and anyway in order to do these yes you don't have to ruin the drawing so that's up at the end of the day hopefully much better off I've just been in the forest they're freaking calm when little water fires collecting oak galls and these I need for making alcohol ink which is the kind of ink that parmigianino used in the 16th century and this is a common recipe for Oh calling they're about thirty often that I have in my collection in terms of recipe going into a drain water gun Arabic and a little iron sulphide bian rusts and it eats through the paper many old drawings that are consumed in this way in parts of the drawing I imitated that on the Pusa I did it I wouldn't have done it on a more important drawing because it lowers the sail ability of the drawing when it's in bad condition I mean if I'd meant that boo Center pass as a boo sampler if not I was not have aged it in that way because the value would have gone down immensely but in this case I thought well you know let's give it a really nice old pattern er make it convincing so well that's what I did no ingredient is really secret because really chemical analysis can discover it but I don't want to encourage forgery line by giving away these tricks of the trade that people might use dishonestly early part of my life I think is rather sad my father seems to have been always out of work and my mother had many children the poor woman was under great stress she seemed to have taken her you know revenge of the world myself and she used to treat me well badly at the age of eight I was still trying my hand at Roy found that if you light a swan vest a match you have a little piece of charcoal at the end that you can draw with and dip it in the school inkwell in those days they had ink wasn't anything to have them anymore but anyway I would do that and I would make sketches and the headmaster came around making inspection and he saw that in my desk I had this matchstick and a piece of sandpaper and he thought that I was playing with fire and he gave me a cleaning for it and I thought well I've been punished for the deed no I shouldn't do it and set light to the cloakroom and the fire began to spread and I got frightened and I thought I'd better tell the headmaster mr. Percy what had happened so I poked my smoky face round his door and said to him because I I couldn't I didn't know how to put it on him please so I've set light to the school I recited a little poem we'd learn they went fire fire mrs. Dyer where where mrs. Claire did that map of smoke came into his study and I found myself in the juvenile court being charged I was asked what I was guilty or not guilty of arson I didn't know either of the words I didn't know the word guilty or arson I didn't know what it means but policemen standing next to me said I say guilty son say I'm not safe guilty so that's what I did and ended up in borstal that was a nun promising beginning Berek he born arrived as a pupil at the Royal Academy about 1950 sound like the Academy itself heaven was already steeped in the ways of the old masters very little comment made about one's work apart from the odd revelation that somebody had won a prize or one happy you see from a lot of prize we didn't win any hardly know practically nothing I was a really very good sort of silent creature I mean he just kept to himself he didn't mix with other students as far as I remember he was always I never remember seeing him in the canteen or anything he was always around there painting these Varanasi green grounds and all this time all his old master stuff which he painted very much in the old master styluses my man thought he was a joke actually Karen Raye and Nancy Goldsworthy also studied with had one uh it was a school that produced a lot of brilliant people of whom Eric was one though not appearing too many to be so because he was very quiet but when you talked to him you knew he was an interesting person straightaway oh I was madly in love with him yes sure I used to say Nance is playing hard to get rid of when he was at the Royal Academy he won all the prizes for drawing so we we're dealing with a very gifted draftsman while he was still a student at the Royal Academy Eric highborn discovered that he was color blind I had this curious thing I believe men have it more often than women of being not being able to distinguish between certain grades and certain greens and I sometimes paint pictures with fear screens which I just couldn't see and I thought they were delicate pearly grays and in fact they were not and I had to look at the tubes of color and read the label to make sure that I wasn't falling into this trap there was a time at the when the hippies were around people were on LSD and I was given some inner cake I didn't know the difference taken ground up and I was suddenly hallucinating and seeing things the most extraordinary way and my color blind is seemed to clear up after that one 18th century Italian draftsman whose architectural drawings have consistently attracted heaven is Giovanni Battista para Nazy a fine example of this masters work a magnificent Roman port was sold to the National Gallery of Denmark for fourteen thousand pounds in 1969 by the London dealer hands Kalman who was hence Kalman because he's now dead he was an ax dealer in drawings and a very important dealer in old masters who perhaps had the best stock in London of old master Roy at one point even HAP's even better than Cornell jeez I sold quite a lot of drawings to him I mean I imagine it went into the hundreds he you know put my work on the market in large numbers and who important people there is a foreign asian in the nursery with investigative denmark in a Roman port main minister thought did you do that yes of course I did I have said so often enough and so of other people said sir why do you suppose this is not being accepted now well I don't know that wishful thinking perhaps on the part of the National Gallery of Denmark but in their proof of but I mean it's absolutely well I I say but people believe what they want to believe but there's no doubt that the drawing passed through my hands I mean I had the drawing that it was I who sold it to hands Kalman and it was hands Kalman who sold it to the National Gallery of Denmark and it was not known before everyone's friendship with the late Sir Anthony Blunt lent credibility to his activities as a dealer the dealers who work with high quality drawings tend to want a scholarly opinion and this is why in the case of Blount he would occasionally give his imprimatur on say oh yes I believe that is a genuine Prasad castellone dalla bella or whatever artist lund happened to know rather a lot about and of course sometimes mistakes were made but if a mistake was made it's basically uncorrectable because without actually someone writing a very serious article in the Leonard periodical saying that these attributions are provably wrong the matter just drops I knew that Anthony Blunt and this dealer hen's Kalman were antagonists I mean they didn't agree with each other hands thought that Denton E was you know not the right Hans who then and Anthony thought that hence Calvin wasn't they right so I thought I'd make this drawing to tease them I thought I'd make it near enough of taboo sanfur Antony to take it seriously but not close he nothing to accept it and put it there you know among the Masters works then I take it to hands and say look Antony blunt says this is a fake what do you think but I knew that his reaction would be what to fake if Antony such as a failure must be genuine that sort of thing Anthony Blunt was regarded as one of the great experts he was artful in charge of the Royal Collection and the Royal Collection has been one of the most magnificent collections of world master drawings in the world and who was engaged in cataloguing it and supervising other people's catalogues on it his range of expertise knowledge and awareness was immense Christopher white at Carnegie's had been one of his pupils just as I had been and I'm sure that amongst you out in his pupils there was a level of devotion if not veneration which made us all take really seriously anything that he was inclined to suggest when I have a friend I treat them slightly differently to I treat the way I treat so I'm not totally objective about anything I would hate to ruin his reputation as a scholar when he was alive I didn't want to do it and now he's dead I don't want to do it I don't want to put to jeopardize his a well I've said did you know his reputation so I still tend always to rather defend him I know this is not objective but at least I admit it no we were not but we almost were as one evening I came back from the Rome scholarship and I hadn't seen him for a number of months and he sent me a telegram sir why you so damned standoffish I think the telegram made war why so standoffish telephone and he gave his telephone number and I phoned him up and said come round this evening and we'll have a few drinks together I went round he was drinking his gin and tonic he laughed and I don't mind it either but I had an empty stomach my god as drunk as a lord and he got as drunk as a sir which he was seeing his base and we were wheeling around eventually collapsed on his bed and I'm sure if we hadn't drunk him so much I mean you know we might have actually made love but we did literally go to bed together and in my book I've said that we were suffering from Brewers droop as they called some circles what happened did and where he was very clever was that he did deal in old master drawings as well as being a brilliant artist himself so he mixed his drawings with those of with those by original of original works and I think he probably did show them to blunt and blunt quite naturally was a collector and therefore anyway he would have been interested in seeing them and I'm sure blunt would comment on them but I don't think there was any collusion there with blunt actually working with heaven set and then telling him to go to Sotheby's or Christie's or Cole nagas or wherever and sell the drawings it seems as I sold a lot through corner keys because Cornell Giza the only people made a public statement saying that I'd sold in 1978 the London dealers Col Nagi & Co felt obliged to issue a statement to the press they acknowledged a common hand at work in a number of the drawings that they had handled over the previous 10 years the source was Erica born one of these was a missing link in the irv of the great Flemish Master Sir Anthony Van Dyck purporting to be a study for his painting of Christ crowned with thorns I was looking through a book on Van Dyck drawings and I saw a series of drawings preparatory studies for painting and I thought you know he's missed a chance there and I CLE would be better if that figure was moved over here and a little bit more stress there and on him I'll try that out and so I made a drawing in his manner making a variation on the other drawings what was interesting about Eric Evans approach to making that drawing was that he found a group of the parrot few studies made by Van Dyck for a painting where and I could experimented with different positions and this is of a perfect common thing but we are it was unusual but we had though I think about four or five drawings for this particular composition and what he very skillfully did was to rearrange the figures taking one figure from one drawing and another from another in itself a perfectly reasonable thing for the artist to do I mean as he was working through the his ideas to find the ideal solution but when you studied them very carefully you see there is something rather suited in way that he extrapolated one figure from one drawing and another but but as I say it was it was well I've saved all the brilliant people together Cole Maggie's unwittingly sold her bones joined to the British as a VanDyke for an undisclosed sum in 1970 it is now correctly attributed to Ericka born whoever buys a babe has been cheated that is something which causes concern I mean whether it's the public institution or private collector they both in Keith here and I think the ones concerned when people are cheated any of the drawings that have on claims to have made passed through the hands of leading dealers and the great auction houses Sotheby's and Christie's into the possession of private collectors as well as Renaissance masters heaven claims around 80 drawings in the style of Augustus John successfully executed stakin Lee attributed and sold in London steno Elana Seeley deputy chairman and director of Fine Arts at Christie's was unavailable for comment the Julian stock the old master drawings Department of Sotheby's was glad of an opportunity to clarify the conclusion well it's possible a thousand drawings but the list that I've been given of what he's admitting to only comes to 80 so it seems to me there are another nine hundred or so out there one of the drawings that we sold and as long ago as 1967 was this rather beautiful drawing of a page which took us in because we cataloged it as attributed to Francesco del casas and based on an attribution of another drawing in the British Museum which in fact mr. heaven now claims was his prototype and we sold it I think it must have been one of the first drawings that he actually sent in for sale and it was purchased by Col nagas who then they didn't believe our attribution to Francesco del casas they called it just north Italian school 15th century and it was purchased by the Morgan live the Pierpont Morgan Library in New York which is one of the most renowned libraries in the world I would say he must be one of the very best that probably ever lived I think one might go that far although now that one's recognized his work it's very easy to see them for me it is anyway it's very easy I'm sure for some people they're probably they might still be struggling to actually believe that they can be forged another drawing but we had that is apparently claimed by Eric Kevin that he drew was a drawing by Yann Bruegel that we sold and this one I must admit is very different from the others that we're seeing now the papers foxed which is rather like a sort of fettling it's a it's some some of the iron in the paper which has got damp and it's it's got it's a disease in the paper and this drawing which is very spontaneous um he claims he drew and I'm not actually 100% certain that he did it I wonder really whether this is by heaven himself and I'd like him in a way to look at the drawing however we sold it and then it went to a dealer in Hamburg and the dealer in Hamburg didn't find a client and he gave it to another auction house to sell in Amsterdam and it was sold in Amsterdam and I don't know where it is now this this is a Leonardo drawing that was offered to us and I'd looked at it I felt that it was a forgery and I'm not certain that it's by Eric heaven but I wouldn't be surprised and I would be interested to have mr. heavens comments on it because in my opinion and a number of other people it is without doubt a forgery why is the facial types is one of the main giveaways here although there is pentimenti in the head of of the baptist the the faces are too sweet and they don't have the physiognomy that you would have in the early 16th century Penta mint is when an artist is rapidly working out a position for a figure and he'll move his head like this like that like this or like this and each that will all be on one drawing now that is Penta meant pent it we call it pentimenti and when we see that that gives us lots of confidence that the drawing is an original work of art because normally the copyist doesn't do that he just copies one position of the head so heaven knew this probably one obviously he he loves of the old masters he must have looked at them very intensely fact that he uses old paper and a why didn't he use new paper he didn't use new paper because he would he knows that we're not that simple volumes containing blank fly leaves are still easily available from antiquarian book shops here I have another book I've removed a piece of the Benham and if curiously enough the shape corresponds Rolla use me with this drawing if we notice blind slopes down at the top and so on this is attributed to personnel law strong of an eagle's head the inspiration for that drawing came from a photograph in a book called Annie Marley mondo Annie Marley and there's the photograph let's have a look at the drawing together with it there we are you see it's in exactly the same position and I think there's little doubt that in fact that photograph is the inspiration for this drawing this drawing was attributed to the Italian Renaissance artist pisanello by the gallery's Salomon a Gastonia grantee at their sale in Milan in 85 in the same sale which contained a large group of drawings now claimed by heaven was a small study of women attributed to Parma or Giovanni here we have Paul Maynard Giovanni Venice 1544 zone and here's my sketch for this or related to it I screwed it up I wanted it to away and somehow it survived you sold in this thing and it has here X collection old Spencer now how the hell he could have had it before I produced it is something I shall never know important drawings often bear one or more collectors marks small stamped monograms which indicate their past history with collectors such as Jonathan Richardson and Sir Joshua Reynolds many of the drawings that he's now claiming to have done bear fake collectors marks on them doing that I would imagine is going beyond just drawing and letting the expert make up his mind he's actually making the expert believed that the drawing comes from Sir Joshua Reynolds or Sir Peter Lee Lee and therefore it should be an original Reynolds is not particularly distinguished collection it contained an awful lot of dross and I mean sometimes sheets with the collectors mark on a more interesting for the mark than for the drawing as if it was it was quite a shrewd one tools yes why not they're very decorative I mean it could be he could be claimed I mean people will claim that it's forgery but that's just their opinion tell me about why did you protect his mark well they looked ice one thing I enjoy this because they helped convince the experts they were general I don't think so I mean if they were experts I would have seen that they were false collectors marks they should have seen in fact they weren't done very well some of them were done freehand in watercolor rather than being stamped I mean I did them very in a very amateurish way they shouldn't have been fooled at all but you see what is the the whole factoring in in the whole affair that seizes people's imaginations the money Eric has never harmed anybody he's crossed a whole lot of people a lot of money and I'm very glad laughs at the expert and have a certain amount of pleasure in seeing a drawing that you did in a museum with the learning catalog entry and you look at it and you think well they don't know what they're talking about and I suppose that there's a certain amount of pleasure of course in a way I find it amusing myself I became your millionaire that you made a million yes I mean that's certainly not a great deal of money must have gone through my hands but it goes through everybody's hands nowadays because life is expensive even a modest lifestyle like mine cost money and I've had to make a living as an artist a painter sculptor and all this sort of thing my own right and some of the money I've earned has come through during the fakes as well I don't like the word fake apply to perfectly genuine drawings but you know it's a word that people will apply to what I've done I think that he is behaved really extremely badly odd people who have trusted him and that I find deeply offensive um as far in as sympathy with the trade that I have not at all the trade has always been well certainly from the great bulk of the last 30 years the trade has been wrong but but no fine point on it who ought to know in our business better who all not who had such elastic judgment who ought not to have taken risks who knowing once the finger had been pointed at Eric as it was very early on that he was a dangerous customer to deal with and continue to deal with him for those people we need have no sympathy at all my immediate reaction to the idea that Eric made at least a thousand drawings would suppose that they were probably rather more than that judging by the rapidity with which they are scribbled I believe his do chanise who went out with a lantern in the middle of the day was asked what he was doing is ever in search of an honest man and well I think you might possibly find an honest man but I don't think you'll find an honest man who's also a dealer new dealer is likely to turn down something in which an enormous profit resides on a sort of 10% suspicion he would take it on and push it Italian dealers are an extremely dodgy lot in general I suppose and I mean Italy has been a source of fakes for centuries and that absolutely brilliant and the dealers don't actually mind selling them you know if somebody is foolish enough to buy them why not if they get something in that looks like Pontormo and they're frightfully keen to set it as Pontormo you know they won't go go round and really seriously look into it the palazzo stop Seafarer is the kind of place that I try to avoid because it's full of all the snobby people and flashy kind of people and I feel also too close to the dealers I'd like to see his little liberal in as I possibly can just you have to sell them something then I Maus because on the whole I own you know they're not the kind of people I like and I believe they don't like me anymore addy hmm deals in the north of Italy he asked me if I could find for him a collection of old master drawings I said well no I don't deal in drawing anymore he's a world um you know will be very well-paid on him and worry about that and I produced for him 30 or so important old masters I mean very big names Pontormo and done I'd piss on Ehlo parmigianino the sort of thing this dealer took the drawings away and put them into sale and gave wrong attribution I mean he must have known that the things were fake I mean he commissioned them I mean he'd asked me will you please do this and I done it you know and so he knew perfectly well what he was handling and when I saw a sale catalogue with these droids reproduced I found that not only had he given the attributions as being firm and definite it also made stains on drawing to simulate age which is neat because they were on old paper with old materials in any case and he'd also given false provenances I was so surprised to find that the prices were so high I mean a hundred and seventy million I think it was for a Pontormo that I'd made we're talking about 90,000 pounds or something like that there's quite a lot of money for drawing that you've only Spade the artist 750 pounds for if that there's quite a markup Eric highborn yes it's by Eric highborn Eric he born senior Eric airborne ISM is an artist the Salomon a Gastonia our grantee catalog then the land sale of November 1985 appeared to confuse the dealer had helped to compile it see know the exact details of the Milan sale remain shrouded in mystery one magazine reported huge prices while other dealers who attended the sale dismissed it as a bad joke little is known of the whereabouts of these drawings that one of the Milan highborns the pastoral scene attributed to castee leone was sold for over nine thousand pounds at Christie's London in December 1990 it was bought by a leading dealer in New York I have in fact carried out my most significant work in the last decade or so but this is merely because I'm getting better no one is an artist isn't quite like a footballer who sort of yeah gets tired after the age of 25 or whatever it is artists can go on forever and ever this beautiful drawing by Goya on the subject saying we still learn of himself as an old man with a beard and he's tottering towards the grave but one can still learn and master them so even in my fakes I'm getting better I don't know when I suppose if you did the perfect fake you you there's no you can't get any better I'd like to think I have done one or two perfect one the old master toys are usually slight and sketchy all so on and so forth but nevertheless they're very important because they are much nearer to the artists original thought noise he's dashing down an idea in his first sketch and often this is lost in the final work one is closer to the creative process in a drawing and one is in a final piece of sculpture or painting or fresco and this this is one of the values of drawing but I believe there's an even deeper value to drawing and mankind is in at the point of losing it is becoming a dead art and it's the art of line I wouldn't say that I've been taken seriously by society or by the scholars or by anybody else I'd say I've been totally ignored the only reason people are taking notice of me now is because I've made a handful of fakes nobody is truly interested in the art side of it what I've really done whether I have a contribution to make or not what they're interested in is the scandal of someone having fooled some experts we should enjoy works about what they are don't worry too much whether the attributions are correct or otherwise in the long run I think my story will be the beneficial effect on the experts and I think they'll take a wider view of that matter and not be such fast spots as they are now
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Keywords: documentary, art, drawing, forger, forgery, Artist, Draw, Drawings, painter
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Length: 45min 32sec (2732 seconds)
Published: Wed Mar 14 2012
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