Eric Bischoff Shoot Interview - WCW, WWE return, Vince McMahon, WrestleMania 35

hello everybody I'm Eric Bischoff and welcome to the Sarah O'Connell show that was perfect thank you I've done this before it's very true welcome to O'Connell show all right pleasure welcome back to the Sarah icon will show your back and better than ever how are you today better than ever I'm doing great I've had a great tour here started out in Newcastle went to Edinburgh and Leeds and now ending the tour here in Leicester so it's been a fun trip the weather is typically rainy Ringling you know it has been but it was a beautiful day when I got here yesterday so I was able to go into the city center and I went on a curry hunt found some good curry and I got to walk around and see the sights and admire some of the architecture in the history so it was a beautiful day it's fantastic of what the fans like in the UK was there were supposed to be like the fans here are really great they're you know wrestling fans in general are very loyal fans and and quite knowledgeable they know their history so for me to come here and do a question and answer format it's a great opportunity for the fans to ask questions they've always wanted to know the answers to and and really engage with them on a much much different level and they've been having a great time and honestly I think I've been having more fun than they have so it's been really a blast that's fantastic and I guess when you first started off in WCW was kind of before the internet so there was all these questions that people may have had in their mind and then forgot about and now they've got that chance to ask you about it like myself hell when I started in WCW it was before the flip phone so technology has changed dramatically in the last 20 or 25 years but yeah it's it's a whole different world you know what's really interesting too and you talk about technology so many of the fans that have been to the shows the last few nights I'll follow my podcasts and it's just it amazes me you know because podcasting is such a new technology in and of itself and I know it's popular and all of that but you know I asked you know the audience you know I pulled them a couple times in the beginning the show how many of you listen to 83 weeks and like 90% of them raise their hands that one that's really amazing so it's it's fun it's just been a great experience it's really in depth and informative show UT so I highly recommend everyone seeks out thank you very much very welcome let's plug I love shameless plugs now let's go way back to you when you were kids you you wrestled in high school I understand and you did some karate knee completely competitively and professionally as well indeed yeah I I started wrestling when I was probably 12 or 13 years old in in junior high school and then wrestled all through high school I continued wrestling after high school on the amateur athletic team I did freestyle wrestling and a greco-roman wrestling I did that for a few years and then I started martial arts and got my black belt in 1979 and competed on the martial arts circuit for about three years two or three years and then I realized I had to do something to make a living so I kind of got out of martial arts initially I believe you went into your salesman might mean used to sell things and I saw a ninja star add fire on TV well that's a whole nother story but yeah basically once I got out of martial arts because I realized there was no way to really make a living doing that chicks were great groupies were awesome but there was no way to make a living so I went into sales and I worked for a food processor and I was a sales manager for that food processor the ninja star wars came the hunk that actually happened as a result of a good friendship that I developed while i was doing martial arts with a man who's still a friend of mine his name is sunny Ono sunny is japanese japanese descent and almost the exact same age as I am and one night we were sitting in a bar after a martial arts tournament and just talking about life and I is and I said what did you do when you were a kid growing up in Tokyo and he described the games they used to play you know as a kid in Tokyo and I described the games I used to play as a kid in Detroit you know we were coming from a relatively poor family didn't have a lot of money and things and you know as kids we would chase each other around you know and throwing rocks at each other not to hurt each other but just kind of like tag you know and Sonny did the same thing but he did in Japan and took here when he was a kid he'd get these little milk caps and they'd throw them at each other like tank you know like ninja stars and after we drank about a dozen beers or more we decided we were gonna create this game called ninja Star Wars and you buy a box the game came in a box and you had two felt vests with a little ninja warrior silkscreen down the front and you had three red stars and three white stars and the stars were just big velcro pads and you throw them at each other and play tank that was ninja star wars so we designed a game and had about 5,000 of them manufactured over in South Korea and had them shipped over to the United States and he said we were gonna become millionaire selling this ninja star wars game until we realize that we didn't know how to sell them we didn't know how to get them in stores we didn't do any of that so I I contacted a man who had a wrestling promotion in Minneapolis called Virg Anya and I convinced Vern if I cut the commercial and we sold them online or sold them on television I would handle all the delivery and everything we'd split the profit and that's how I got into wrestling actually because that was in the AWA correct right and so you kind of you started off as a salesman but you began to be able to learn the ropes of wrestling so to speak in production and how they do editing and camera rack and all that kind of thing yeah because you know burns his company was a very small company and they had limited resources and it gave me an opportunity to learn whatever aspect of the business I happen to be interested in I started out in sales and syndication which really just means taking the television show and convincing other television stations to carry it it's really it's just a sales job not much difference between selling frozen food and selling television the sales of sales right but because I was so fascinated with production you know I grew up as a child of the 50s and the 60s when television was just emerging in the United States and it was such a big part of our lives you know the families just gather around and watch primetime television and watch certain shows and the weekends there's I mean television was like the centerpiece of our lives but I didn't know how it worked you know I was fascinated with how do they actually get those pictures and those sounds on the screen and into my arm and I actually I I use this analogy all the time it's like a microwave oven everybody has one everybody uses one nobody has an idea how they work just made a powerful Kinect exactly you know what not to do but to me television was the same way so I really wanted to learn how it worked and because they were a small company and I just had the ability to okay I want to learn how to do that so I learned how to do that whatever that I learned how to edit I learned how to operate a camera I learned how to conduct interviews I learned how to set up a ring I learned how to promote towns I learned every aspect of the wrestling business that I was interested in just because of where I was working it's incredible so it's kind of like you uniquely positioned yourself to eventually be a tonight how to run a company without necessarily planning to do that use just three passion of the industry it was a passion of learning wanting to learn wanting to understand how it all came together I never really had any in truth I was I had an interest I never had any plan or goal specifically to get into the wrestling business it was never a dream of mine or an aspiration of any kind it to me rustling I was a fan of it but it was like you know it was a world unto itself and I enjoyed watching it I never dreamt that I would get into the wrestling business but it was just coincidence I love to learn I loved wrestling and I was in the right place at the right time sometimes it's just luck a lot of times in life you know you need to work hard you always need to work hard but sometimes you just need to be lucky to and I just happen to be in the right spot at the right time absolutely and I think that the harder you work the luckier coming that make sense well the harder you work the more written the more prepared you are for the opportunities that come your way and and I did work hard I was I've always been a hard worker and I've always been passionate about learning new things and I think it's a combination working hard and having passion to learn not being stuck in a mold you know and and being open minded and willing to explore other jobs other cultures other lifestyles other countries you know whatever you have you have a passion to learn and explore opportunities seem to find you absolutely and now in about 1980 he applied for a job at WWE Tommy's everywhere at the time are you kind of looking back glad she didn't get that job because you you applying to be I guess a commentator or a presenter and you know sort of thinking because you know the moments away in the company so you wouldn't potentially have had the same opportunities you had at WCW it's an interesting thought you know sometimes very rarely do I think about the past you can I love this interview that no but no I don't mind doing interviews I don't mind talking about the past but I don't think about it much I don't dwell on it I'm obviously what I do q and A's you know people are always want to know about things that happen in the past but for me personally the way I live my life once once the moments gone it's gone I can't get it back I can't relive it I can't make it better I can't make it worse it's just gone so I try to enjoy the moment as much as I can because that's something I have to I can I can decide right now how much fun we're gonna have I could come into this interview with a bad attitude or I could come into it angry or I could come into it happy I get to choose that and that's what I focus on but every once in a while I do I wonder what would it happen if what would have happened if I would have got that job for WWF and you think about you know all the things that could have been different and would have been different but there's also the unknown what if I would have gone to work for Vince McMahon and he and I would hit it off and something maybe bigger would have happened and is it's a hypothetical you know there's no way you'll ever know the answer to it but it's an interesting thing to think about right and then suddenly Eric walked into this interview with drinks which is the best way you know look if you're gonna do it that's what I said I meant we're in control we can decide we're gonna have fun doing this interview or we can decide we're gonna sit here and do an interview like everybody else I prefer to have fun so in this pool room we're probably gonna have a party later that's right where we can sing we can dance we could have a band come in dancing girls we get a disco ball be like like the 70s all over again incredible now let's fast forward a little bit to you when you in WCW obviously when you used the entire sort of area the backlight backstage everything was your stage when you're making a TV show but take us actually backstage what was was a typical day like for you what time did you start in the morning working on this show how late did it go and I what happened throughout the day oh hey you know it was always a little bit different depending on what city we were in most often I would get to the arena probably by 11 o'clock in the morning sometimes noon depending on what time zone we were in and we would have a production meeting that's when everybody would get together and we would walk through the format that we had from and we worked on that format the week before so by the time we got to the building we'd sit down we'd go over that format make sure there wasn't any changes make sure there was no injury issues or somebody missed a playing or a contract problem or whatever cuz you know happens but we'd go through the format and make sure everybody unproductive but everybody in production was completely clear in terms of what we wanted to achieve and then we'd meet with the talent and we'd walk through the matches with the talent to make sure that they understood you know what we were doing and see if they had any better ideas or suggestions or concerns that type of thing that would usually take us till about three or four o'clock and then throughout the day while all that was happening we'd be doing different interviews or we'd be doing pre-tape scenes from you know backstage things that would be rolled into the show later on they would appear to be live but they were taped so we'd start producing those around three or four o'clock in the afternoon and we would generally be producing those all the way up till about Showtime and then once Showtime yet obviously the action was going on in the ring but we'd also have a lot of backstage elements that were live in addition to the pre tape interview so that all took place and you know once the show wrapped it wrapped we're done you know by it usually 11 o'clock at night is when the show ended we were done so natively of course you kind of would have to plan at least a week had seen I where you going but did you plan week to week or pay-per-view to pay but few house or far in advance did you do that generally speaking we would look out for weeks in advance of the pay-per-view and kind of work backwards from there as is generally what we did now things would happen things would change somebody may get hurt we may come up with a better idea for a storyline there may be contract issues that would complicate you know a storyline there's a lot of things that can happen in between you may try something and you think it's gonna work and then all of a sudden you realize it didn't really work that well so you've got to go back and readjust but generally speaking we would look out a minimum of four weeks and then we'd work backwards sometimes depending on the storyline and the talents involved you know for instance was sting you know we worked 12 months in reven you know we planned that one 12 months out now I'm not going to lie we we didn't say okay we're going to start this on this date and 12 months later it's going to end we started it knowing it was kind of open-ended we didn't know how long that build was going to be effective so we kind of kept it open but as we got deeper deeper into it we realized it was really something that could sustain itself very easily so we were in no rush to to end that storyline that character talking about the the crane 2410 oh yeah the course saying that was a twelvemonth story dark which is why i think one of the only times that's ever been done in the industry it's fantastic it's right so I think SEP the Shockmaster obviously longer and I grabbed the aids-defining for that the Shockmaster yeah well the Shockmaster I'll tell you what Fred Ottoman still shows up at Comic Cons and autograph signings still get the Shockmaster gimmick and he still people still remember that moment so so my favorite star will spin off there's ever been it's better than the recent films at least yeah well that was a Dusty Rhodes idea that was not my idea god bless Dusty's birthday was just the other day so deci we're not gonna let you forget this even even on your birthday recipes my friend never forgotten how did the the existing talent react in WCW and you started bringing I've you know Hulk Hagen and Kevin Nash and Scott Hall well everybody has you know there's two reactions that people have they have their their personal reaction and then their public reaction for the most part I think people were excited for Hulk Hogan to come in I can't speak for everybody but I think the majority of the talent was exciting excited because it meant that WCW was serious about trying to take that next big step and to go from being a distant number to which is what we were to the WWF at that time to being a serious competitor or at least attempting to be a serious competitor so I think the general consensus was very positive I'm sure there were some people that were jealous it's human nature I guess you know people are flawed animals by nature so that I'm sure there were some people that were jealous of the money he was making or the attention he was getting but they didn't really voice that very publicly at least not to me not to too many people now Kevin Nash and Scott Hall it was a little bit of a different story because they had a reputation you know I mean they're friends really loved them and people that weren't their friends really didn't there wasn't a lot of gray area and they had a reputation they were they were there were troublemakers in WWF it was no secret and I think a lot of people were concerned that they would bring that element of discontent or malcontents over to WCW good thing no they didn't really Scott was on his best people he's on his best behavior for a while and and so sceva was great there was an anticipation that it was gonna be much worse than it was but they actually came and they were both very professional in the beginning and went downhill after that but sorry Kevin's telling you the truth I mean you you know you don't want to walk in and turn the place upside down but but you know the honeymoon lasted quite a while you know but like anything well you know when it's look I think if it's the music business if it's actors or actresses directors writers you know people that are creative especially at a high level they're different they're wired differently they have they have different needs and and they have egos and when I see you go people often you know equate ego to something negative and I don't think that it is I'm proud of my ego I've i nurture my ego my ego you know drives me to try to be better tomorrow than I am today what I do because I just want to be the best I can be that's my ego and my pride so there's nothing wrong with that until it gets out of control and once it gets out of control and overwhelms the rest of your behavior then you got a problem but I think artists in general musicians actors actresses writers directors producers all have a different kind of ego and a sensitive nature about them and they can become difficult to manage sometimes the more successful they are the more difficult they can be to manage I think because when you're successful this is my own experience and I'm still learning how to navigate through this really the challenge of becoming successful is it is fun that's it that's a great child in my case I had nothing to lose so striving to be number one I was fearless because I had nothing to lose once you get there you got everything to lose and that's why it's harder to hold on to success sometimes than it is to become successful if that makes sense getting there is fun staying there ism is a challenge and I think with a lot of talent artisan in general and I think Russell's our artist just like I think of a musician or an actor and actresses and artists once they get there that insecurity they don't recognize it as such but it is as insecurity begins to affect the way they conduct themselves so I think when you're you're sort of at the top then you know it might just be the case that you've got a bigger mortgage and bigger commitments and you're used to a different lifestyle and then it might affect everything it's like TV shows sometimes will let the the creators do what they want but then if the ratings start going down they get more involved and all that kind of thing and it's that's managing things too much some others it you know this is interesting we're having this kind of a discussion but I think part of it is to once you become really successful deep down inside you're afraid that you really didn't deserve it that maybe you just got lucky that maybe you really aren't as talented as people think that you are or perceive you to be and you were afraid of you're afraid of people finding that out imposter syndrome right yeah so I mean it's all of those things wrapped into one it's understandable because the entertainment business is such a fickle business one minute you know you're in vogue your style you're the flavor of the week and everybody loves you and you know the two weeks later you know nobody really wants to hear from you anymore you know that's the nature of the entertainment business whether it's music and I said movies whatever it doesn't really matter so you know holding on to that position is a very challenging thing to do and then indeed you just have the insecurities of being a human being when you're when you're up there in that spotlight Sonia it's a fickle thing but I think you know with Scott and Kevin once you know they we became so successful with the NWO their egos their personalities changed a little bit as all of ours did they weren't the only ones all of us did I think it was Scott in particular because of the the challenges that he had with chemicals and abuse and addiction made that even worse and and it kind of affected everybody around him a great deal I guess with the wrestlers of performance he because there they gave through increasing amounts of stress on their body and their traveling and they're not home very much and I guess they some people might lean on things like how come I'll tell you Sarah that's something that is so under discussed because and I'm talking about the travel and the stress it's not the physical stress I think that's over discussed sometimes I think people everybody knows wrestling is a very physical I'm not suggesting for a second that it's not clearly it is and it does take at all and there are injuries and there are issues related to the physicality of being a wrestler but I think that's secondary to the biggest challenge which is being away from home for two or three hundred days a year when you're young when you're in your 20s or when you're an aspiring a wrestler if you're single you know you think wow that'll be a great lifestyle you know if you're working a nine-to-five job and you look at a wrestler you know every night they're in a different city and they're in hotels and they're flying around the world and you know fans are cheering for me you think wow what a great life that is I can tell you from personal experience and I didn't ever have to travel as much as a wrestler I wasn't a wrestler it was an executive but I still traveled a lot being on the road being away from home no matter how nice the hotels are no matter how great the restaurants are you're still away from home you're not sleeping in your own bed you're away from your wives your husband's your boyfriend's your girlfriend's your dogs your kids you know your own car you know to be able to get up and go to your closet and you know grab clothes and not have to live out of the suitcase the physical and emotional toll I think the emotional tool that being on the road 300 days a year probably leads to more problems whether it's drugs or alcohol or you know personal relationship issues and and all the things that become challenges on the road really become exacerbated when you're on the road 300 days a year so even stuff like you know if someone has a gate in them saying that you know Christmas performance or whatever it is it's devastating you know and again I didn't have I almost feel guilty talking about it because I didn't have that issue I was able because I was an executive and I wasn't on the road like rustlers I could take my kids my wife or my kids with me I could take them to Disney with me while I was producing shows I could take my wife with my kids to Japan when I had business meetings in Japan and and turn it into a family learning experience and a culture experience for my kids I had it easy and I and I know that but I also witnessed firsthand what happened to personal relationships when you miss you know you grow up and time goes by so fast you know you have a young child you know boy or girl and you're on the road and before you know it you know they're in junior high and you wake up one day and wait a minute what do you mean you want your driver's license your when did you grow up you know you miss so much and it it catches up to you it it it catches up to you and your your relationships with your family and it's it's devastating and what do people do they self-medicate they start drinking at least they're doing other things and that's kind of like the downhill that's the that's the spiral lately now because because it's October it's nearly Halloween I thought I'd talk Halloween Havoc three years in particular so in 1996 Hulk Hogan went up against the Macho Man Randy Savage 97 he went up against Rowdy Roddy Piper now obviously in the past both of these have had massive WrestleMania matches WrestleMania 1 WrestleMania they're 5 the year after that recreated another big rivalry for Hulk Hogan our thinking around going with this not this wants to talk about the warrior hawk Hogan and Halloween a me and it was a disaster it was just you know when I talked about it on my podcast last week actually obviously we were trying to recapture magic you know and it's not that there was anything wrong with the idea of recapturing magic because it worked quite effectively with Randy Savage Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan had a great run in WCW so we were able to go back in time take a WWE or WS storyline that worked between Hulk and Randy and then kind of recreate that feud and reignite that feud and with a new storyline and it worked same could be said for Roddy Piper we made a lot of money with those storylines unfortunately with warrior is just there was no way to put that Lightning back in the bottle yeah you just couldn't do it just the chemistry wasn't there I think warrior physically he's not the same guy it's just sometimes you can't you just can't recreate the magic see I'm sorry was before SummerSlam 1991 they kind of held them hostage a bit like he asked for more money at the pay-per-view or he wouldn't go on he heard about that I you know I hear those kinds of things all the time but I don't pay attention to them I know I wasn't there so I don't know anything about it do you have any similar problems in WCW like that or who's more reliable as a performer from that angle yeah I had zero issues from a contractual point of view with him he was I mean warrior was a I mean he was a pro he was just a different cat you know and and you know I I feel I don't like talking about people that are no longer around to defend themselves it always makes me feel a little creepy but you know I will say he was a different dude but he was so passionate about his character he lived that character he was immersed it was like a method actor who never comes out of the character you know it's like a method actor who plays a part in a movie and he becomes that character four months before they start filming and when the movie wraps he's still that character that's what that's what Jim Warrior was like and there's nothing wrong with that you know people can be critical of it if they choose to be but I admired him for his passion and his intensity and his desire to try to expand what that character could be but it also made it hard because he was he was operating on a different level in some ways them than we needed to operate at sometimes you just need to get in the ditch and dig and do the work and not necessarily think about you know how was the war you're gonna take over outer space and he was kind of out there all the time he was always living in that third or fourth dimension of that character and sometimes it just made it hard just to dig a ditch they must mean difficulty just for him if he wasn't character all the time having to run everywhere never being able to go past a rape without shaking at all that kind of stuff well he wasn't that bad he was a dad but creatively but when you sit down and had a discussion with him you know most about possible storylines of what could be done in the future I mean you know there were times when I thought you know I've never really done hard drugs but there were times I thought maybe I would start fantastic now I was looking at some of the old set designs for the pay-per-views and I think there are a lot more krater than anything even though BW e has today they've got more of a Hollywood filter them yeah I mean I think set design in you know things like pyro and and set design in and of itself it all evolves it all changes a lot of it is just driven by economics you know you have to do what's affordable what's what you can do within a budget and by the way you also have to pick it up and move it you know a hundred and four times a year you know you're taking it from city to city to city to city to city and it's got and you've got to be able to get to the building starting at midnight the night before start putting everything together have it all up by show time tear it down put it on a truck and take it down the road to do it again next week so the portability of it also has a tendency to dictate what it really looks like see this is why Bailey's got the right idea sort of hats off inflates it just comes straight back down there you go we could have a blow-up set if you really wanted to save money you'd have all the wrestlers gather around you wouldn't even need an air compressor to blow it all up you just have a bunch of wrestlers get out of catering after lunch give them a hose blow the set up you know get paid if you don't blow the set up it's good idea now there's obviously some matches that people always get back to you and talk about a lot but especially with the the WWE Network now off the top of your head whether they hidden gems the unsung heroes of the W I mean they're BC W past oh I don't know that there's any unsung heroes I think a lot of you know the the real stars of WCW certainly still get a lot of attention you know Ric Flair is probably comes to mind at first and I think everybody still to this day you know put Stricker up there on the pedestal that he deserves to be sting I think is another performer that still gets a lot of attention and a lot of credit a lot of discussion fans still love love sting and recognize him for you know what he was but there's you know there's journeyman there's the guys that you were there from the beginning that did the work that never reached that kind of level of Fame as a Ric Flair or sting guys like Arn Anderson perfect example I think iron is probably one of the more Oh underappreciated to discuss you know talents out there he was phenomenal in the ring phenomenal in the ring believable as anybody I've ever watched he could he could do an amazing promo he was one of the most gifted promo people that I think has ever been on the roster and really underrated in that regard then there are certain people like that that fall into that category but I think for the most part because of the network now people that we're not even aware of I mean I've it's funny I go to these I go to these events and an autograph signings and I see a 12 year old kid coming up to me go Oh mr. B shop I love nitro wait a minute I'm not that good at math but my kids just say he threw you out yeah your mom and dad didn't even know each other one nitro was hot huh but you know because the network now is exposing nitro in WCW to a lot of fans had never even heard of it before so it's like we all have a second life because of the network it's awesome Thank You Vince very true no I mean there's later stuff certainly when I was a kid they didn't get a chance to see that and maybe I had to read about and certainly as pre-internet I had to go and you know I've gone back now he visited things which she's load of fun with it can you tell me next about Goldberg and his streak was her idea to sort of come up with their character make them undefeated or was it based on just how popular he was that that's where the street came from it was the ladder you know people often think that the idea is that they remember were the result of a master plan or one person hey said hey I've got an idea let's do this it almost never is that way so many times that the big moments that we remember were either coincidence a combination of rushes a collaboration of ideas you know it's like somebody says hey we do this and somebody over in the corner goes yeah that's a good idea but what if we do this - and then somebody around the corner goes no no but if you do it this way then before you know what what started out as an apple ends up being a dozen eggs you know by the time you're done and people will remember the dozen eggs if we don't know the Apple they already know the dozen eggs if that makes sense to you but most ideas are the result of a collaboration over a period of time and also because wrestling is what it is and so much of it was done live when I was doing it ideas evolve kind of in the spur of the moment and with Bill here's how that came about really it was more play necessity than design bill came out very little experience very little training in the power plant got a tremendous reaction from the crowd just because he has so much charisma and we went okay we got to put that guy on TV yeah but Eric he doesn't know how to wrestle yet I don't care we got to figure out a way to put him on TV put him in a ring put him in a match yeah but you don't he owns two loops I don't care give him two moves let him win put him on TV now he goes out there he does one or two things he said somebody up jacks hammers spear ISM boom he's done because that's all he was capable of doing because we wanted to get him out on TV right away so now it's like okay well he's still training in the power plant he's still learning what he needs to learn to be able to go out and have a twelve or fifteen or twenty minute match but in the meantime he's just really want to crush people and that's what we did and that's how he became undefeated Bill Goldberg it wasn't like here's what we're gonna do we got this big guy back in that part that big bald guy breathe fire you know we're gonna have him come out and destroy everybody and he's gonna be undefeated for a hundred and seventy three straight matches that didn't happen what happened is we went just put him out on the ring we'll figure it out later just have him beat people we'll figure it out and then once he caught on we went okay let's give it you know after about 50 or 60 50 60 of those events we went okay maybe we should give maybe we keep this going I give him a streak but it was a coincidence it wasn't a design amazing so here's a question say in the the height of the Monday night was obviously a lot of people came over at the beginning if you could have taken either Steve Austin The Rock The Undertaker or Shawn Michaels and had them come over to WCW which one would you have gone for okay you're never gonna get an easy answer out of me there's two answers the one is the first answer is with 20/20 hindsight because anybody can be a genius if you can read the read into the future right so in 20/20 hindsight it would have been the rock obviously close second would be Steve Austin and actually it might have been Steve Austin first because if if Steve Austin hadn't gotten over the way Steve did I doubt the Monday Night Wars would have gone the way they went Steve Austin was really the pivot point for for the money in the Monday Night Wars Rock didn't really become the rock until after the wars were really over to be fair about it so I would I would I would go back and say Steve Austin and there any sort of myths that have persisted about the ECW about yourself that you'd like to address says like the idea that you even thing you introduced it in the storylines that you came up with the Elimination Chamber of course I think I understand as Triple H about people having creative control backstage and somehow you can had that and his contract but other people are sort of suggested that they did is there anything sort of persisting there you still here all the time not as much anymore I think since I've been able to do my podcast and address a lot of those issues and head on most of those kind of rumors and and questions seem to have evaporated you know there was the myth that you know so many wrestlers had creative control there's only one Russell that ever had creative one name was Hulk Hogan and by the way he never used it he used it one time anyway and actually I'm not even gonna say he used it because he and I both agreed on the issue so it wasn't a situation where he wanted to do one thing and I wanted to do another and because he had it in his contract he got his way we both actually agreed on the issue so even though he had it in his contract I will go down and say technically he never used it other people had you know language and their agreements that were you know some sounded something like you know meaningful consultation about story Alliance well what's that okay we're going to talk about it we'll consult and I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do anyway so we're gonna we're gonna have a meaningful conversation about it and I'll be serious in that conversation but I still control it and you know you know so those kinds of things those rumors and that mythology has been out there for a while but it's gone away yeah the true the the Elimination Chamber I had nothing to do with that I had nothing to do with hla and there's not my idea so don't blame me for that but that's about it really during the Monday night was did you ever of course you addressed Vince on camera the GT ever speak to each other on the phone did you ever accidentally bump into each other like in in that entire time no we didn't but it was this one time in 1990 is 1996 I think we had a big convention television convention in Las Vegas called nappy it's a syndicated television convention and back then and was a really really big convention and hotels were really hard to come by in Las Vegas you couldn't get a hotel for Nappi convention so I got to Las Vegas early because I liked Las Vegas and I was with one of the guys that worked for me guy by the name is Zane breslov who used to work for WWF and Zayn says you know Vince is staying down at this hotel I came from Treasure Island he says you know it Vince McMahon sitting over at Treasure Island I said really I said is he there yet cuz Zane knew some of the people at the hotel because no he hasn't checked in yet I said well let's cancel his room for him so Isaiah had contacts at Treasure Island so we called over there and cancelled his room knowing that they'd read book as they sell his room to somebody else and he'd come flying in to get a hotel room and there wouldn't be one yes he did that yeah I did he does know sorry Vince that's very funny moving on the fourth slightly say you tried towards her - a friend of WCW try to buy it and that kind of fell through and then the Rita B we ended up getting it do you think I should have you know in the last iconic episode of nitro I kind of expected it to keep going and it didn't and then there was this whole invasion angle and all that kind of stuff but for a couple of years I was kind of expecting WCW to reimagine it didn't why do you think that is oh I think there's probably a couple reasons it certainly I didn't work at WWF at the time so I wasn't privy to any of them but I think from just from a basic business point of view WWE really wanted to focus on their own brand and you know although they have the ECW as a part of the WWE portfolio for a while it really wasn't a successful venture I don't think they wanted to have another one you know and another brand that they were trying to promote I think that's number one I would guess that the other challenge was there wasn't a lot of wrestlers that represented WCW available at that time they mean they had Ric Flair they had Booker T they had Marcus Bagwell for about a cup of coffee and maybe a handful of others but they didn't have sting they didn't have Lex Luger they didn't ever Bischoff that the Steiner Brothers didn't have a lot of the people that up until that point had been on camera a long time and kind of represented WCW so to have the brand without the talent it's kind of like having the Rolling Stones on tour without makjang ur doesn't work that's very true now the the day that you revealed is the secret rule general manager did anyone are you gonna be in the building that they did they sneak you in at the last minute was the reaction like no well Stephanie knew obviously Vince McMahon clearly do I believe Triple H probably knew Kevin Dunn the director certainly would have known I'm sure there was a writer or - I'm guessing Brian gort's would have known and he was a head writer at the time who else would have known their lawyer we had to write my contract and that was it I don't think too many other people I knew none of the rustlers knew and we made a real effort to keep that a secret I mean I even booked my own airplane ticket because we knew that once they booked a flight through their travel department my name would have ended up in somebody's laptop you know in order to you know the secret's out right there's only two ways to keep a secret you know you know I know and that way we're sure who spills the cigarette so I even bought my own plane ticket I you know stated hotel away from everybody else you flew into an airport away from everybody else just so there was no coincidence at all and it was great you know nobody knew and the shock on people's faces was was real it was really fun I wish I could live that over again it was really fun I liked to watch it on TV every once in a while just not just be I like to watch everybody's reactions it was like I mean they were real reactions you know like Arn Anderson and Ric Flair it looked like somebody walked right over their grave you know it was awesome you must have got a real kick out of that especially some people I guess you would have worked with years ago not seeing them since right yeah there was a few and Booker T and I were friends you know I mean you know we saw the reaction that he hear because because he was a pro he saw me walking through he saw that the red light was on the camera and it was on him he knew he had to react in character so he did but Booker and I were friends and we still are to this day but yeah it was just so much fun seeing you know it's like going to your own funeral it's like faking a funeral right and you got all the people there that come to your funeral half of them didn't really like you they just feel like they have to come to your funeral and then you faked them all out you come walk it again while they're all passing by your casket looking at a fake dead guy and then you see the reactions on her faces that's kind of what it felt like it's like I was at my own funeral away I loved it so ye once on the WWE Network did a table for three with Jim Cornette and Michael Hayes if you could have dinner with anybody who would it be who'd be your perfect dinner guests oh you know I've never really had a genuine conversation with Vince we've had business conversations and casual conversations but we've never really talked about anything and I would really love to sit down over a steak dinner and a glass of wine and what are you really thinking you know what was really your motivation or you know I'd really like to know from his perspective what was going through his mind in an honest way during that period of time so that would be a fun conversation over a steak you kind of been in contact with Vince can you reach out to him if you wanted to yeah I'd film at next episode I'd be amazing no I mean you know I like I mean I'm not a phone I don't just look I love my brother and sister you know immensely but I don't talk to him on the phone I'll sell him attacks so some facebook messages things like that but I'm not the kind of person that gets on the phone and just talks to people I'll Drive 1500 miles go out and have a beer and a pizza with you but I'm not gonna pick up the phone and call you and ask you how you're doing you know it's just my nature just turned up outside my house and off we go yeah but but you know with Vince I'll uh send him a text you know over the holidays or if I have something that I think he'd be interested in hearing about I may you know fly we had to do a flyby with him I actually referred a friend mine to his company that I knew that Vince would probably enjoy working with and ended up working there so you know there are times when I'll reach out but not on a social basis or a personal basis you're on a character got a physical sometimes you're in so much easier and I match against Steve Austin you won count out victory over Kane what was your favorite matter you had him ring well I've never really had matches you know because that would imply I'm a wrestler and I'm not a wrestler I've been I was I was a gimmick I was a stunt I was the type of character that everybody knew was going to get his ass kicked eventually and that's what they wanted to see so although I was technically in matches the truth is I never really had a match but the events that I did participate in that were billed as matches I would have to say Steve Austin was the most fun because the story I'm building up to it was the most fun you know there was an inherent story already there people already knew the backstory between Steve and I so that all the hard work was done years in advance and it was all real so it was easy to get the audience to buy into it because it actually frickin happened right so the hard work was all done Steve is an amazing character to work with he's so good especially for someone like me that I love improv you know I mean I can remember I can memorize the script and I can can work traditionally from a script if if that's what a scene calls for and I'm decent at that but I'm great when it comes to improv because it's so much fun it's hard not to be great when you have as much fun doing it as I have so and Steve is the same way he can work off a script if he's forced to but if you just say look this is where I want this scene to go this is how I want this scene to end up go do it that's like Oh baby we're gonna have fun and and the magic that we were able to create was because he and I both thrive in an improv environment kind of by chance at one point is all right yeah that was that was it and we just had so much fun I missed that was there anyone's finishing me that you particularly dreaded like if they were going to do it he were there any sort of hammer no no I I had complete confidence in everybody that I ever got in the ring with I'm pretty durable or at least I was back then I've always been a physical type of person and you know physicality has never been an issue for me and and legs have been durable knock on wood I've never really been hurt ever in my life you know through all my years wrestling and kickboxing and golden gloves boxing and you know all the other silly stuff I've done in my life I've never been hurt and that's not because I'm necessarily good at anything it's mostly luck but secondly I'm just durable I guess but mostly it's you know when you get into a into the ring you know when Kevin Nash powerbomb me off the stage you know in Baltimore in 96 I had never taken that bump before I had no idea what to do I didn't want to rehearse it because I knew if I rehearsed it there was a chance I might get hurt in a rehearsal and if I got hurt and rehearsal that I couldn't execute it when I needed to so I said if I'm gonna get hurt let's get hurt live let's get hurt once we get the shot not before we get the shot so that powerbomb I never taken it before I had no idea how to do it you know he walked me through it about 20 minutes before we did it sit here's what you do put your head down between my legs I'm gonna reach around I'm gonna grab you by your waist I'm gonna pull you up one when I do just do a sit-up so that you're you know you're up up my shoulders your crotch is right in my face and then I'm gonna throw you and when I throw you just make sure you tuck your chin just tuck it shouldn't deepen in so your head doesn't bounce as well okay so what am I gonna do I gotta bend over put my head between his knees sounds pretty graphic doesn't sounds like porn bend over put my head between his knees and when he pulls me up I'm gonna do a sit-up and when I do a sit-up tuck my chin there's only three things I had to remember and so that was the first one Paul Wight used to chokeslam me fairly regularly he was so incredibly powerful that he had to and I only weighed about 180 or 200 pounds at the time but he had the ability to pick me up with one hand and if you go back and you look at those bumps he supported me he grabbed me like by my hip with his left hand and he he guided me down now it looked devastating but it wasn't it wasn't at all I've fallen down two flights of stairs and hurt myself worse and taking that bump or two steps I should say not two flights two steps so that was an easy one to take Kane chokeslammed me off of stage and that was one time I did get her and I broke my thumb because I made the mistake of reaching back before I hit it's kind of a human instinct and okay I didn't hurt myself once but I was a broken thumb it didn't matter I didn't even know I broke it till about a week later I just thought man I just can't move it this is fat what's going on and what does actually broke your thumb and the rest of them were all really easy you know stunner is easy for all easy fantastic now in addition to B being a trained martial artist and being a salesman and the president of company and and a marine performer you're also really good at officiating thanks billion Chuck how how long did that take to serve transform yourself that was so amazing somebody just sent me that video I think it was like a 20-year reunion or 20 year anniversary or eighteen year anniversary something so happy together that was the most fun thing I've ever done on camera that scene was to this day when I see it I go wow that's really good but it wasn't me so much the makeup that the extent to which the WWE went to to make that work the prosthetic mask you know the makeup they sent me out to Hollywood about a month before that shoot to meet with one of the leading makeup artists in in that world to create that mask for me and then the day of the event I had to get to there was a members in Minneapolis usually I would get to the building around noon as talent always did I got there about 8:30 or 9:00 in the morning because it took like six hours to get that makeup on so I sat in the makeup chair for six or eight hours and when I got out of that chair and I looked at myself in the mirror I went oh my god this is amazing and I had already been practicing the character I kind of had an idea of what I wanted that character to do because it was it was a combination of my father because my father had been paralyzed as a as a young man and he always had his hand was kind of curled up like this and it it tended to shake a little bit so I said okay I'm gonna I can do that and then the vines of that carrot was a guy by the name of Jim Barnett oh my he was he was actually an executive at WCW so I combined this with the Jim Barnett's voice and I with that mask on right and the mask was so good I was walking around backstage just because I really want number one I was just having fun I don't want to sound like I'm some kind of method actor specialty specialty but I really want to get into that character because I didn't want anybody to know it was me until was time so I spent like five hours walking around backstage with this mask on working on his voice and just hunching over a little bit and trying to become frail and old you know and I walked up you probably don't know this there's a there's a guy by the name of brad wren's you know bread is bread used to train he trained Vader for for Verne Gagne in the AWA Leone white he he trained a lot of guys he he himself was an Olympic wrestler in 1900 Roman Russell 1980 the Olympic team the year the Carter boycotted the games tough guy tough guy he wrestled in WWE for a period of time or WWF but Brad was a friend of mine I had known Brandon since high school right and Brad came to the event and he had his two stepdaughters with him and one was like 10 years old the other one was about 14 right so I like I said Brad is no Brad knew me since I was like 15 years old so I I walked up at full makeup and I'm doing this character and I walked up to I walked up to his depth I mean you somehow nice little girl would you like the come to my room for some candy I said this right in front of Brad cuz Brad is the kind of guy that would be like but you know I was like this old frail man and he didn't know what to do he can't beat up an old frail man right if I would have if it would have been you know anybody else he would have just ripped him apart but he didn't know what to do and I went wow he doesn't even know it's me and he's known me since I was 15 I walked up to Eddie Guerrero I did the same kind of thing to him you know different say you know yeah fine-looking little Mexican nothing you know everybody just wanted to get away from me because they didn't know how to handle this old creepy man they couldn't hit him they didn't know what to do with him and then I knew I had it you don't want people that knew me so well didn't know me when I was this far from him and talking to him I knew I had that character so when I got into when we finally did this scene and I ripped that mask off I could just it was a strangest thing because when you're when you're you know our stage is a ring you know an actor stage is a stage or that's Broadway or whatever our stage is this ring and we're surrounded by in that case 15,000 people and some of you know the front row is only eight feet away ten feet away so you get to really feel them and what they're feeling and what they're thinking you experience that and when I took that mask off is I'm pulling it out you know because I actually I unaffected my voice and I just hear myself say three minutes and so I went into my natural voice before I actually rip the mask off and if you go back and look at that scene you people just like it took them a minute two minutes to go holy and then and then they reacted was a delayed reaction it was so cool I love that scene I wanna go back and watch aboard um yeah absolutely now in WCW how Kapoor and his nephew Horace Hagen and in WWE you had your nephew of course Eugene and you tu asked them and that actually Nick Dinsmore who's not really my nephew horse was hogs nephew in real life Nick dinsmoor's is not my nephew in real life but you know Nick is a really good guy he's in Sioux Falls South Dakota married to a beautiful woman from Sioux Falls I think she was mrs. South Dakota and they they run a little wrestling promotion in in their community and doing a lot with our community to really wonderful people so I still stay in touch with them fantastic I watched an online commentary with Nick talking over your match to be Tuesday where you lost your hair at the end he suggested that another time he might have accidentally broken your ribs but he said that's a story for another time is that something that happened I don't think so I would remember broken ribs broken ribs of the most painful injury I've ever I have broken my ribs and I was really really young not doing anything regarding wrestling or anything I was actually driving a go-kart and I lost control of my go-kart and hit a fence and I actually broke a couple ribs that is a horrible injury because if you get to helps when you have broken ribs or even bruised ribs if you get the hiccups or a bad cough god forbids you have to sneeze sneezing will put you to your knees you will cry like a child if you have to sneeze when you have broken ribs so I think I'd remember that kind of suggested there might be another story but he didn't go into it was very interesting I'll send you the link anyway yeah I'd like to hear that but I don't think he did he just forgot he may have taken my air you may have he made me have crushed me pretty good but I don't think he broke anything last time he spiked we spoke a bit about would you ever go back to the WWE and at the time you're like I might come back for an appearance and I was kind of I was a month later you came back for 25 how was that experience it was awesome you know I get to see people that I hadn't seen in a long time production people really those are the people that I grew really close to while I was in WWE you know Bruce Prichard and I became really good friends in WWE and we've remained good friends since then so I you know I stay in touch with Bruce Jerry Brisco is a guy who I made friends with in WWE and I'm still friends with and I still see Pat Patterson one of my favorite people in the world really and then there's a lot of guys that you know I see him on me this circuit excuse me the circuit you know signing autographs and doing events but going back to WWE for the 25th anniversary and seeing a lot of the production people that I worked with those are the people that I really admire there's such talented people and you know they don't get enough credit you know either behind the scenes so it comes to that territory but I seeing them was fun you know being out there on that stage even that was only out there for a minute but getting a reaction you know was it's always nice to be remembered you know I'm a human being I have feelings just like everybody else so it's a nice for people who yeah then you're gone til next time it's very cute and hopefully they'll be very soon you never know exactly now some of the matches you had in WWE kind of hearkened back to the days of Andy Kaufman with the inter-gender matches you went up against sort of Trish Stratus and there was a mixed tag team match with you and I think Molly Holly versus liter and Matt Hardy as well what do you think about the current mismatch challenges do you watch there you enjoy that kind of thing I really don't I don't I don't enjoy them and for no other reason I think then at least while I was doing it there was never really much of a story behind it it was like a gimmick match oh let's do this and it was a stunt it was unique something different but there was never really much of a story associated with it and any kind of man I don't care what it is whether it's an inner gender match or you know cage match or whatever it ladder match any kind of I call como gimmick matches but any kind of gimmick match if there's not a sufficient story to justify the end if there's no means that justify the end then I'm not really interested in it it's just a match for the sake of doing something different and that's how I always looked at those quite frankly nothing against the people I enjoyed working with the people but there was never enough substance behind it to make it feel good like with Steve Austin there was substance there was a story there built it and that's unfair because that was such an easy one and an obvious one but even in you know any of the other things you know Ric Flair the things I did with Ric you know there was great story there in those matches it was just like oh my god yeah let's just you know put these arrogant rich Oh that'll be great why why would that be great who wants to really see that what are the stakes you know what's at risk for her what's at risk for me you know why should anybody care about that match other than just to see Trish Stratus and Eric Bischoff in the ring being each other up it can be that it can be like fun dynamics where they're kind of they're fun to watch but so forgettable in the grand scheme of things so that makes sense just meaningless they don't mean anything there's no there's no I always I go back to this all the time when I talk about stories and wrestling there's no snakes you know if if I'm gonna wrestle you we're gonna wrestle each other we have to be trying to achieve something for ourselves you know we both want that camera and the only way I'm taking that camera with me is to beat you and the only way you're gonna take the camera with you is to beat me okay the camera is the Stace and a and I think anytime you have a great wrestling story you have to have stakes that really matter if you don't have stakes you don't have story and if you don't have story you just have a match I'd be fine with you having as long as I can just have a memory cut if I can have the memory card I'm fine because then I could just hang the memory card to the piece and get a camera back anyway I'll let you have a camera thank you I appreciate that so coming up a tunas their evolution pay-per-view which is the first female only pay-per-view in WWE do you think something that could have been done earlier or would you just think that societies and the place it's more sort of open to that now than it would have been 10 or 20 years ago I think it's a couple things I think one you know culturally we've just evolved to a point where there's a need demand for it that wasn't there 10 20 years ago I also think there are more women who've been training to become wrestlers now than there ever has been 20 years ago 10 years ago if you wouldn't have an all-woman's pay-per-view it would have been about a 20-minute pay-per-view there just wasn't enough women out there you know women wrestlers out there to stack an entire three-hour pay-per-view you know what does that take you've got you know probably 20 25 women or more if you got tag teams and things like that you know 20 at least to have an all-woman's pay-per-view there wasn't 20 qualified interesting women wrestlers out there in the marketplace 20 years ago there's a handful it's interesting if you if you took modern-day Superstars and my gain to form NWA for the first time now which three would you in there and also as an added question if you were to throw in a third John Cena or Roman reigns which one would you turn he'll reigns for sure for sure Roman reigns as far as I mean I I had to cast the mwo today it would be tough but I would I would say Roman definitely is a he'll Dolph Ziggler I think he's just a phenomenal talent yeah really really great talent I think he could pull it off and you'd have to have your one you want a really big devastating guy although it could that could also be Roman but I'd probably go with brawn I think there'll be a pretty good trifecta I'd watch that and sounds pretty good there you go hey G still keeping in touch with in the world of wrestling and I hope Kagan you mention believes he's kind of your best friend mhm yeah how could I just talk to a mystery Hawkeye stay in touch I sense a little bit with Diamond Dallas Page not a lot I'm a bad phone friend like like I said but you know when we see each other we always have a great time Scott Hall you have an ash I see quite frequently Xbox I see quite frequently on the road and we always enjoy each other's company and hanging around together who else do I see do I talk to that's right you know Ernest Miller is a good friend to the family so I still talk to her sunny oh no I'm still friends with that's about it really how is how is hope doing these days I mean is it's a big instant a couple years ago is he sort of started to build bridges with WWE and I know he's being sort of seen backstage do you think he might become an owner than any point in the future they might start we featuring him in promos and stuff well they've already started you know inserting them and you know the open of the show for example you see him there now and I believe they're in discussions about going to Saudi Arabia of Hulk going over with with WWE to Saudi Arabia I don't know if that's confirmed yet or not so I think eventually yeah they'll start doing but you know Hawk is 64 65 years old so it's not like he's gonna be getting in the rain having any matches anytime soon but I think they'll use him in a more visible way now that time has kind of gone by and hopes address some of those situations and tried his best to to to apologize for them and move forward in his life so I well if you care does it if you could book next year's WrestleMania using make this two questions one using the current roster of superstars and one using anybody what would be your main events we don't you'd have to give me a day or two to think about that I don't know over ten in two days you'll have to return to Cody Wyoming to do that okay I mean we cannot have this answer I'll have to think about that well that's that's too tough a question also how long do you think it'll be until there's a woman's main event at WrestleMania do you think we all might say I maybe wonder I was in Charlotte that's a good question it feels like it feels like it's possible now you know I if you were to ask me that last year I would say to probably be through four years but they've made a lot of progress in the last 12 months in terms of really promoting and putting a spotlight on women and doing it in a good in a great way so because look you don't want you don't want just women to want to see that match you want women and men don't want to see that match it's going to be everybody it's going to be an inclusive type of thing so while they're putting emphasis on the women they're doing it in a way that makes them interesting for the men to watch too in a non gratuitous way though you know that's the other thing that I think has changed so much you know even at WWE when I was there it was all bra and panty matches and you know the women were pretty much eye candy and using a not so great way whereas for the most part whereas now you know they're being featured as athletes and competitors so I I wouldn't be surprised if they try to pull it off this year I mean the last for a rumble they they're the main event right there was two Royal Rumbles and the ladies were in the main event it could happen could happen wouldn't be surprised if you were to be brought back as an on-air talent obviously and Haymond could have never gone away on screen with Brock Lesnar and CM Punk if you could manage anyone who would it be oh gosh I don't know I think I could I mean if they ever decided during Roman reigns he'll I think I could really accelerate that process it'll never happen but if if if that would be that would it be about the only thing I think would make any sense for someone like me I think I'd be huge for a minute you never know now that's what you've gotta concentrate on the minute fast before you come to try an hour right there there you go I need from you there you go see I don't you know like with with Brock Lesnar no Brock's not really good on the mic so it makes sense for Paul to be his spokesperson right that's the way a manager should be you shouldn't use a manager just for this just because you want to use a manager now I don't know Roman may be quite capable of cutting a great promo I don't know that I don't know if he is or he isn't but assuming for a moment for discussion if he's not then then I think a manager whether me or somebody else I mean uh Paul Heyman you know would really help that character get over and just get over the hump because you've got to be able to make people hate you you've got to be able to be good on the mic to do that there's kind of the risk with Raymond I guess that a lot of people want him to turn help and doing so it might make him cool again and people might cheer him that there is a fine line you know there is a fine line we're kind of an antihero culture in a way and it's you know that was true with the NWO by the way if you go back and watch some of the early on WL at first they were heels but they were so cool that all of a sudden they're getting cheered and your traditional baby faces when we're getting booed or even if they weren't getting booed the crowd was ambivalent towards them which is the same thing it's death but that is a it's a fine line that's why it's more of an art than it is a science you know trying to find that middle ground absolutely now I mean I've said this before but I think you absolutely should be in the Hall of Fame and I'm sure everyone else agrees with me if I wasn't who would you want to induct you oh I don't know I don't I don't know I just I don't think about a punch I mean I do because people ask me about it so I'd be lying if I said I never think about it I have to think about it because I always get asked but I know probably Hulk you know he's the closest to me geographically I am now they decide if he says F the next year's WrestleMania and luster I'll give you a shout no I live there anyway I mean I'm gonna be in white there's a way though right it could be in Wyoming in today so although the Wrestlemania from Cody trials the rest of my year and oh no this is fantastic last time we spoke he also mentioned you're producing a movie and TV shows and urine vote of the brewery as well how how all those projects going well the brewery isn't that was an expensive hobby really expensive hobby I learned a lot but I'm not brewing beer anymore still producing television shows we've got one very very big project that's with a major Network and we're hopefully be going to be getting a green light on that soon working on actually two movie projects right now neither one of them I could discuss but two movie projects as a producer so that's going well and I'm doing this kind of stuff I'm having fun you say you did some work with video games as well there's a whole khomeini one the half mouse was there the police brothers as well kind of digital online it wasn't a video game it was digital online gaming so what we had is digital slot machines so you could go online and you could play a slot machine that was the whole cobra slot machine or the David Hasselhoff slot machine or the Blues Brothers slamming we did that for a few years that was a very difficult business though because the the regulatory issues when it comes to gaming the rules change every single day you have to have you know a dozen or more attorneys staying on top of that every single day so we phased out of that business phase their investment out of that business but it was it was interesting process well have you gotten coming up with the rest of the year and beyond if you go anything you can talk about no I really can't one movie project that I've been working on for 14 months is probably going to get announced right after the first of the year but I can't I'm sworn to secrecy on that one the studio likes to make all the get all the press so you can trust these people these people are great yeah - it's like telephone telegraph tell a wrestler right no I can't really talk about it I wish I could next time next time we will have a catch up and find out all about it I'm sure it's gonna be very exciting there you go we'll do that now finally you have you got any messages for people watching this area coucher today new audience around the world your fans do I have any messages tune in every Monday to 83 weeks wherever you get your favorite podcasts where Conrad Thompson and I each and every week break down all of the elements of the Monday Night war and why it became such a phenomenal period to become a wrestling fan right it's very good Wow I should yeah I should get a job in broadcasting yeah jumping podcasting that's the future that's where it's at all right so our official thank you for returning to the Sorokin show is always a pleasure speaking to meeting in person this time thank you for coming to England especially to do that my pleasure it's been fun thank you to everybody watching at home be sure to share subscribe give this 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Views: 9,273

Rating: 4.9194632 out of 5

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Length: 81min 22sec (4882 seconds)

Published: Thu Dec 20 2018