Ensuring your foal does not become pushy, while keeping the connection.

[Music] g'day i'm warrick schiller and i want to talk to you guys about staying out of trouble with folds you know folds are very impressionable very easy to be taught bad things without you even doing you know anything wrong so i want to talk a bit about that but before i do i want to talk about the draw drive balance you know you think about you'd like to have the draw drive balance pretty even and if you think about let's say you can't catch your horse you show up and your horse runs the other end of the pasture that would be having a lot of drive that's almost 100 drive and if you have almost 100 draw you show up and your horse runs up to you in the past you open the gate and he's all over the top and you can't get him off you uh that's not good either but with an adult horse that has has established habits you could have one that's one or one that's the other but you really haven't fluctuate between the two whereas foals are very very easy for them to fluctuate between the two of those and so they're quite impressionable at that stage so a couple of years ago we had a full name chance and um it was after a lot of the changes that i'd been made making with what i'm doing with horses and like personal growth changes too and with him i wanted to work on connection first not training but connection so we just go in after he was born you know like the next day so we'd go in there and just sit down and hang out and let him approach us if he wanted to sniff us he could sniff us he'd wander off there was no we're working on connection we're just working on community sort of thing there was no ask for him to do anything i didn't try to touch him and i probably didn't try to touch him for quite a long time and when i i posted some videos on that and people people were you know saying oh your horse is going to be terrible or whatever but he's actually the mo he's the quietest not quite as in dull but he's still got a lot of spark but he's the he's the most curious horse for that age i've ever had he's the most friendly horse without being pushy at all you know you may have seen a video of the first time i was going to work on trailer loading i walked him up to the trailer and i was talking to the camera and he jumped in while i was talking to the camera he's just really curious and so elmer bella his mother chance's mother bella has had another foal here three months ago and we've named him rupert after rupert isaacson so if you haven't heard my podcast with rupert isaacs and have a listen to that that's uh he impressed me so much we named our fall after him and we our fault was born while we were away we were away in arizona for three weeks and we have a girl named kendall that works for us and kendall was here and i said okay what i want you to do is do not try to touch him but go in there every day and just sit in a chair just hang out or whatever and after that first two weeks he he had no friendly to him at all he was quite skittish quite run around didn't wasn't interested in coming up and saying hi or anything and so we got back from the horse show and i thought well i want to start to balance that i've got a hundred percent drive i wanna i wanna get a bit of draw and so our mayor bella she gets uh certain supplements you know we're sponsored by arenas and they've got some really really good supplements that uh keep her fit and healthy and you know looking really good and provides all the nutrients she needs as a broodmare so we'll hang those on the fence usually and she eats out of the bucket and so i thought well i'm gonna i'm gonna start to balance that up so one day i went in there took a chair and sat down and sat the bucket on my lap figuring if she's eating out of the bucket he might decide to start hanging around me a little bit because he doesn't really come up to us and while i was there with the bucket he came up and hung out and was actually because he likes to eat it out of that bucket too and she was she'd pull her mouth out of the bucket and kind of spill some stuff all over my lap well he was sitting there and started eating off my lap and i thought well that was that was good that was a bit of a change well the next day i go in there and i just go in and stand there and he goes through it he's out there with his mother he goes for a bit of a run around and then he runs directly at me and past me and has a bit of a kick up at me which i didn't respond to okay i didn't do anything to him but he had a bit of a kick up at me then he ran away and then he comes back and comes straight up to me really full of himself and kind of rares up right in my face and once again i didn't do anything and i definitely didn't step back because that would not be good there that one kind of encouraged that behavior but right then i thought okay we have gone from 100 drive to not 100 draw but he's not thinking about me at all there's no almost recognition of me like boundaries and stuff he's just charging up there and saw that i thought i need to start balancing it back the other way right now and he ran up the other end of the pasture and had a bit of a run around and then he came running straight back to me again like just straight towards me and as he came towards me i just kind of stomped my foot on the ground and slapped my sides of my legs a little bit so i didn't direct any energy towards him um but i created some energy and he went and it didn't make him stop and stand there he went from having almost 100 draw to 100 drive he took off and had a bit of a run around there but then he uh after some time he decided he was going to come back and he started coming back with a bit of speed and then he kind of slowed down and was aware of me so now i'm starting to kind of balance this up i'm somewhere in the middle of this draw drive situation and then he slowly approached me um and then the next day i went in there and um i thought well i'm going to film some of this so this next clip you're going to see is what he looked like the next day so that's what happened pretty much the last interaction i had with him so what i'm going to do now is go in here with him and see what he does but and i'm going to let him do it wrong because i want you to go to see what he does if he does if he does it wrong and the only reason i want to show you this is so that you don't make mistakes see he looks at me just walks straight towards me so he's he's quite bold you might say right here now walking up to me right there he kind of looked left and looked right he kind of went oh maybe so he's probably a little bit different than he had been hey mister how's it going are you good and what he was about to do right then i'm so if he approaches me again i'm not going to put my hand out but what he's probably going to do is walk past me and bump me with his hip this is what he's done in the past not really but see kind of turns that hind into me now i can't do anything right this second because he could kick me hey little man i'm just gonna he's trying to bite you trying to bite me but right there he kind of turned the other day he actually walked past me and bumped me with the hip and see him kind of walking around that went there with his hip kind of cocked in towards me and right here he's acting a little bit like he might want to get a bit playful like leap up in the air or whatever he's not doing it right now but he kind of gave me the indication he might right then hey mister right there see him just go by me with his hip and almost lean that hip into me hi and so he didn't really do it as bad today but what i'm gonna what i'm gonna show you here is what i'm gonna start doing with him a little bit so you notice when he walked up he walked up and he kind of all turned his head and then walked and then turned his head which is better than he had been but what i'm going to do right here he's walking towards me now if he stops and pauses like that i'm not going to do anything i'm just going to walk over here and give him a bit more room now right here i'm gonna right there i bought manager i'm gonna stop my foot a little bit enough for him to stop and think and see right here he stopped there and he's reaching out towards me instead of just barging right up into my space you see he's kind of reaching out and that was because a second ago i just made that change my energy and stomp my foot and right here i'm gonna do that because right then he was about to walk around me and start to get pushy and i would rather he ran off and i couldn't i couldn't catch him rather than him get pushy the thing with folds people go what do you do with a foal that's that reds up and strikes you they don't just rub and strike you from day one there'll be some encouragement to doing that and so i would rather i can't catch him rather than he is a bit too boisterous but i'm gonna see he's probably going to come back again he's going to go for a bit of a run here but i'm just going to hang here and he may have a bit of a drink and then come back but i want to watch how he approaches me when he comes back so you slowed down right there and stopped now he's thinking about it there we go so this is more what i want him to do so the only thing i've had to do is bring my energy up and stomp my foot so it's pretty subtle okay and right there when he wants to kind of turn his bum towards me like that i'm just gonna make a little energy right there um the reason i'm showing you guys this video is i want you to not so far i don't want to get to the point where i have to make a correction so a correction would be a actual get off me go away something like that none of that energy there was directed at him here he comes again so he's looking at me nope he's leaving so i really like that he looked at me and was thinking about coming over here oh maybe i shouldn't and now he's looking at me thinking yeah and you see he stops right there from that distance and goes um should i or shouldn't i and so if he approaches me slowly my energy's not going to change my i'm going to have one leg cocked i'm just going to be quite relaxed but if he approaches me too fast i'm going to get a bit of presence about me you see he just turned his head when i did that and maybe stomp my foot just a little bit just to have him think you know i kind of want him to approach me but i don't approach me without being aware of my space i mean you know she's teaching him some manners at this point in time i like what he's doing right now he's very he's very aware of me but instead of just barging up here he's just standing there and i really like what he's doing right now very aware of me thinking about coming over here but there's a big old lick and chew very good head lowers slowly comes towards me doesn't go directly towards me so he's going on an arc right there then he stops thinks away a little bit then thinks back towards me that he's slowly inching his way up here but he just doesn't have that i'm going to march straight up there sort of thing and the thing with like i said with these folds is you don't have to make corrections if you get to the point to where you've got to make a correction like they're too close and they're pushing into you it's too late you've you've missed you've missed the mark and like i said i haven't made any corrections i did bring my energy up but a correction would be directing energy towards him telling him to get away okay i haven't directed any any energy towards him so i really like what's going on right now you know he's very aware of me he's thinking about coming over here but then he's thinking about maybe i shouldn't and so that draw drive balance is pretty pretty good right now he's thinking over here and he might come over but he might not but he's not running away and he's not running towards he's just kind of in the middle so kind of like where he's at right now but the big thing with these these folds are just so impressionable and they're pretty cute and you tend to think oh he's coming up and sniffing me and he's getting rearing up and down that's so cute but it's not and so you know prevention's better than the cure and so what i'm working on here is more of the prevention that might be all i do for him with him for the day he's just wandered off unless he comes back right here in a second but that might be all i do it with him for this interaction but i'll probably keep filming these interactions as we go along and show you uh the changes from day to day it's gonna have a bit of a scratch here so he's walking pretty fast but then he slows and looks away a little bit slows down stops looks at me that right there that's what i'm talking about he he slowed that draw that draw down he didn't run away but he instead of him just marching up here he stopped and thought hmm should i so i'm trying to keep my energies relaxed as possible right now and see he's going a little bit of an arc towards me he's kind of asking right there can i approach instead of just that marching straight up here hey beautiful how's it going are you good yeah hello i love how you approached me that time now i'm going to try to let him engage with my hand because at this stage they kind of they put things in their mouths they're kind of a bit chewy and body and whatever and so i i want to try to keep my hand between me and him but i see what he did right then he went to leave and then he came back and i'm not i'm not having to do anything so he's kind of doing a bit of self-governing right here he's curious but he's wary a couple of days ago he wasn't wary at all he was boisterous you know he was kind of if i was another foal i'd be playing with him and we'd be rearing up and carrying them but i'm not another fold so hey dude how's it going are you good so if you notice the last thing he did at the end right there you noticed earlier on when he would leave he would kind of leave and turn that hip towards me and whatever but right there at the very end the last thing he did was he went to leave and then he rolled around and he stepped that hind end up and he rolled back around to face me rather than having that defensive kicking sort of a thing and since then i've been working on that but for the most part i and i used to come up and be really body like you saw in there um but for the most part he's just come up and engaged with me so he for the most part he comes up and approaches he doesn't have uh that he doesn't come up with that real bold energy he just comes up and approaches and hangs out i haven't really had to make too many more uh of those adjustments and it's and you saw how subtle it was that one time you saw me just bounce my foot on the ground and it's really quite subtle but you did see the change in his demeanor and you know when i did that he stopped he pricked his ears he licked and chewed things like that and that was probably i'm guessing a month ago was the last time i had to make any sort of balance in that draw drive he's kind of stayed in the middle but i still haven't touched him apart from him engaging my hands when he comes up to me and so yesterday i thought okay it's time to start actually doing some work with him so i took bella and chance over to the round pen and i was i was gonna i was gonna start working on some different things but the opportunity presented for him to where he came up to me and was standing right there and the thing i've noticed about him lately is he's very confident around me without being cocky around me so he doesn't have that skittish oh you moved i'm going to jump away but he also doesn't have that i'm up in your space i'm going to tell you what to do he's just been really confident around me and i haven't done anything to work on that except what you've seen so far and yesterday and i haven't like i said haven't touched him and so yesterday we bought him in the round pen we were videoing and the opportunity presented himself like i might start touching him and the results of that were just outstanding have a look at this first it's on this clip of what i did on the left and then the clip of what i did on the right theories the problem we had with some of the time hi and look at this he's not like he's been a bit of a chomper recently and there's no chomping i'm just gonna do this i've never done that okay i'm gonna do that i have never done that here bella stay there a second i've never done this i've never done this i have never been in both eyes before this is all first this is so this is this is how if you can get the this is connection before concepts okay we've got the connection and i'm gonna push my luck here and see if i can run my hand down his front leg like this i'm gonna run my hand down his hind leg like now it's getting ridiculous um yes uh okay what else can i do i mean i've touched the whole body all right i'm gonna go down this leg here okay i've touched everything that's all the parts the back the tummy the flank the gasket i'm i'm done guys oh my goodness mate work with her hey roops so what am i going to do here i might see how rupert is on this side okay so i can touch his neck never done that before touch his back never done that before touch his hip never done that before touch his front leg never done that before touch his hind leg never done that before oh my god this is just ridiculous so you can see right there i was a bit astounded but that's all from connection but if you think about him in the beginning he was very very skittish so he would be a lot of drive horse and if you were trying to touch a horse that was very very skittish you'd be getting a lot of drive if i had to let him get pushy and be touching him he'd probably be pushing into me when i when i was trying to touch him but and i didn't have to work on any of that that's why i'm so big on connection these days because a lot of the in the past i really think a lot of the work i've had to do with horses and most people have to do with horses is based on the fact you were trying to train on them and do things to them before you develop that connection and uh it's just like you saw right there like i said he's not he is a pretty fearly sort of a horse who can be quite skittish and can be quite bold and pushy and he was neither of those and he was not worried about me touching any part of his body his legs his hips his his flanks which are usually kind of touchy at the top of his head i touched basically everything without actually having done any work and i used to do a lot of imprinting um to basically get the same result but the imprinting does go over threshold and they basically get a bit blase about you and you kind of lose that spark in their eye but i just really want to share this and i know this is a lot longer than in most videos i put up here but um you know the the clip that you saw when i was working with him in the not that last bit when i had the black hat on in there with him that is uh pretty indicative of what the all the long videos on the subscription look like is there i'm narrating exactly what i'm doing what i'm thinking what i'm seeing as they're going on and that's just a short clip of it and i've got a lot of footage in the past of other folds and you know i think my knowledge of not so much training knowledge that hasn't got any better but my knowledge of how to get this connection to work for me has gotten so much better and i'm going to have the full length video as a rupee on the subscription um because i'm going to keep working with him and but i just wanted to share that with you that i like like i said i was just amazed at how easy he was to touch all over the first time i ever tried it and a lot of it has to do with getting connection but being aware of that draw drive balance along the way and not letting it get too far out of whack one way or the other and you saw when i did the bucket thing the next day it was completely out of whack one way and so you just got to get that drawer drive balance really good [Music] you

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Published: Wed May 19 2021