Elite Knife Fighter vs Elite Gun Fighter - RAW, UNCUT, NEVER BEFORE SEEN FOOTAGE

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[Music] wait here is not me anybody can do the knife it's that if you have a gun expert who knows what he's doing I think you can cut that 21-foot rule can cut it because he knows what he's doing now you know in in the previous videos that I've seen the guy with a gun who's got a gun it just doesn't even know what a gun is something 200 somebody comes here I mean they're not expert so what happens easy for the guy to run with a knife anybody can run with a knife but now what happens with a guy who's skilled with a gun is able to use it that's what I want to see the other thing like I talked about earlier was the situation if I am actually going to engage somebody with a gun the last thing I'm going to do is let them know that my knife is here run at unless I'm that emotionally disturbed person but again that's the next scenario is the point that people understand right and and and what what mr0 said earlier right where does it start did a seven-meter start here or did the seven meters start here you got to remember from a knife point of view I will pull my knife here knife point of view is I'll be somewhere here now the knife because he allowed me to scull you will not see me go like this well what is that that's Hollywood right so the idea of once again you can understand the parameters of even a weapons fighter weapons are made to be felt not seen because if I pull the weapon and you see it you run away or you shoot me I need to get this close if I'm not this close I'm not gonna pull my weapon out so understand that understand that in the in the context of already now we're talking about here that somebody who doesn't know weapons will charge okay then let's see what happens somebody would skill that's very important that you put that in context never important and there is a very pointed volume also about my my impact about my brain because I'm going to see someone with a big knife or my Chatterer or with a small life is the thing that ran to me and run to kill me to try to hit me and these may mean only wanting I'm under stress I'm under it stress if I my if I'm not trained for that for I mean training for that training for work and the stress but what are what we what we are going to do now first we try with a with a gun in concealer mint condition but we are going on so fast so are like a medium operator you know what I mean right I want to test this about this kind of situation okay so what are we doing here okay for example if doc start Sammy I was exactly starting wool and we are going there where in Canada meters meters meters and in the United States they would be using feet or urk it's very different it's very different we start with a with a walk Ross hey so get on my bed but you need to understand that it's not the same because I know now that dad's starting to make this aggression in a relative condition maybe every rocks and someone can run on my back if I'm lucky and I heard a noise or someone maybe shout my attention going back I can see but I don't know where maybe I can see what is here well maybe I can see what is is there it's very different between an ambient light needs so your relative ignition it's sure that it's rocks between now you know what I mean yeah this is the worst case since now I I lost here in the radical vision is Ross between here you know what I mean okay okay whatever see I missed that okay we'll do it again fur okay so say that again you will you're only going on his audio because in recognition is easy but now I know that doc starts running to me but I want to start my reaction really when I heard the noise and it's very easy to heard the noise here that there is known not emit noise there is no people here you know so I startling relaxed done he got you sure so what's a tool we've done we don't need to demonstrate that is something that it's impossible we can work on these without usual O's I show you a different technique for engaged I don't this is a bad Phoenician and consider man concealer mint-condition my my shirt is not too large so I need to rip out and see the block it is not so large I want these go on after we can try also like these but now I want to work like this okay boys line but this is the first time and these diseases or these these and these or there is another technique that we are going to applicate that very fast that appeases is going to read my dad something like that going to put distance and i'm going to greet then I'm going to read because if not sure that is the only one that do that I need to control to control my side bra now but I can do another team okay and we see that wait because oh sorry that's enough and he sees on the bed this is on the bed now thinking in the front there in the front it's not yes it just need a bit more ease but not too much because - oh please I am relaxed I don't know I feel a lot of fear and that started I'm going to try to find Jonny's arriving sure 100% if I have a concealer mint condition I can try to stop with my hand so I can hear the audio CDs that's hell yeah I'm going to have some of that that creates distance faster going down I can't reach what should I help mean for you that he's down now your targets here here it is easy I got momentum for my salsify shuttle reach now from a high level 12000 down I've changed I have to change my trajectory which allows in my back here that can make a distance so when if I saw someone on a front am i lucky that I have someone on my front and I love the fact I tried to go down and reduce the last chance that again I can do my friend good nothing more or I can try to make another team but is the same a'right I can try to chip off the road I try to definite myself because it's a right straight to me I waited him I thought late I belong engage this is a bad best rule is advanced by deadly distance you free I changed my plane and going here I use my knife in my leg I team for a decent and I had my hand here or here by time so I'm happy hacking in here yeah you see this the difference between this and the previous videos is that he stayed most of the time the gun with a guy the man with a gun stays in the same spot too late I will have the advantage but now he is moving as I'm coming and even if he doesn't move he moves by changing levels it's like I just like a crocodile I can only go in one direction if you change I have to change you by half a second to change and do everything and better yet when he left now I'd like now I have to stop to change to hit my target again now he's there much faster so what I think were able to prove over here is when a person knows what they're doing with a gun you don't have that 21 feet that they're talking about if they know what they're doing sometimes those and of course you're saying well not everybody is skilled well just like everything else right he trained you trained what you do [Music] [Music] you

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Length: 10min 54sec (654 seconds)

Published: Tue Dec 03 2013

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Having been an LEO (and a martial artist, and a knife-guy) for a long time, I have many thoughts on the subject. As noted, this “21 foot rule” is drilled into the heads of police recruits at the academy level. I feel this has led to numbers of unnecessary police shootings, some of which are highly controversial. “Guy with a knife! Danger! Shoot!”

Indeed, most of the videos and demonstrations we’ve seen, just as Doug notes, indicate a disparity. The knife guy (Dan Inosanto!) is a top-of-the-line expert, whilst the typical police officer shown is at best... Inept.

The Mythbusters played with this, and had Adam (with the “gun”) drawing and actually working the action of his “pistol” before firing, and it was still a draw on most attempts. No one (no one in his right mind, that is) carries their weapon without a round in the tube and ready to go. There are those of us who have trained long and hard to develop a fast and accurate “presentation” of the firearm. When I was just a young lad, still in the army, I read Bill Jordan’s famous “No Second Place Winner” book about police gunfighting.

Jordan could draw, fire, and hit the K-zone of a standard silhouette target at 7 yards....In .27 seconds. Including reaction time....

I never got that fast but during the long period we carried revolvers, I could achieve .5 seconds. Modern police holsters and autopistols tend to be a tad slower, but our present rigs allow a very fast draw as well. If you watch some of the combat pistol competition shooting, you’ll see what’s possible with practice.

Another thing.... Knives are certainly capable of being deadly. But in most of these demonstrations the knife guy is imitating a stab and then the scenario goes “red”. (Action stops) In reality, with 13-17 rounds in most autopistols, the guy with the gun might take a knife wound but would be emptying his pistol into the knife-guy at the same time. Who “wins”? Gunman goes to the hospital for sutures, knife-guy goes to the morgue.

👍︎︎ 25 👤︎︎ u/Bikewer 📅︎︎ Nov 10 2017 🗫︎ replies

3m is actually only 9ft ish... 21 ft is roughly 7m.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/TheAngryAgnostic 📅︎︎ Nov 10 2017 🗫︎ replies

This topic seems to come up lately on how deadly a knife is against someone is trained in using firearms. So I'm going to re-stated something I posted earlier.

The police keeps great records of who've perished among their ranks and in what circumstance.

In the US there are an average 1 million police officers on duty per year (that's a quick google search). On the website https://www.odmp.org/ Since 2000, only 14 police officers on duty with firearms in the US were fatally stabbed.

Think about that for a second. Of the thousands of violent non-firearms weapon incidents in the last 17 years, only 14 cases created a fatal result.

Conclude how you wish, I believe a reasonably trained shooter can stop an average knife attacker in the vast majority of cases.

👍︎︎ 12 👤︎︎ u/scoutsaint 📅︎︎ Nov 10 2017 🗫︎ replies

Who's instructor zero? Sounds /r/iamverybadass

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/twat69 📅︎︎ Nov 10 2017 🗫︎ replies

Since Reddit ate my discussion on the video... here's another go at it.

I'd like to see this experiment done with simunition, marking or shock knives, and people who are willing to hit and grapple each other.

The 'one poke vs one shot' thing, though part of the tueller sçenario, is pretty artificial. Any one willing stab or shoot someone is going to do it more than once. They're also going to be willi g to engage in grappling, striking, shoving, grabbing weapons, etc. That should be factored in.

There's also the issue of inertia. Even if you put a hole into the 200 lbs of angry guy charging you, you're unlikely to stop them dead in their tracks, meaning you still need to be able to deal with that stabbing, slashing adrenaline fuelled impact. Weird little trick shooting poses aren't going to help that.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/Bag_of_Drowned_Cats 📅︎︎ Nov 10 2017 🗫︎ replies

The 21ft/3m "rule" assumes an average law enforcement officer and an average person with a knife.

The fact that sometimes a "Elite Gun Fighter" can get the upperhand doesn't really do anything to change how law enforcement should apply the rule.

👍︎︎ 4 👤︎︎ u/RunWhizzardRun 📅︎︎ Nov 10 2017 🗫︎ replies