EFAP Movies #44: Saw

foreign [Music] one of the top comments was like they should do soar and I was like that's the whole idea this whole plan oh this was actually movies that were coming out consistently around Halloween time right for like one per year for ages every year one through seven was one per year down right became now as is another tradition we'll probably go around little align people doing like a what is sore to you I would want to open with the people who know the least about it so I assume that would be Rags what I know about saw or let what I allegedly know about Saul is that it's got a fun little puppet and there's some spooky weird things he makes you do that's it that's all I know I've never seen any of the Saw movies the saw spin-offs the saw extended Universe I have not seen I'm not into like Gore so I hope that's not too strong you'll be fine because you can look away and that'll be great is metal the next up then for knowledgeable I guess so it's basically this is just in general or with regards to saw with regards to Soul hey it's the same for me as this works I'm vaguely aware what's going on in those movies we got all these Trapper rooneys and the puppet I think those movies get like weirder every time well a lot of exercises do obviously we're not gonna want to confirm it to anything at this point yeah that's basically it it's just this weird gory thing apparently and that's why I never really watched it all right but now we are all here and I'm super excited uh I can hear the excitement in your voice yeah shut up go left to right on the remaining five which is so cap first you want to go what's what's sore to you I think I've seen five of them I remember there being lots of wacky situations characters wind up in and lots of twisty twists and turns and so I'm looking forward to that that's the best kind of twist all right how about you Bronco I'd say that I am familiar-ish I have watched some of them and I couldn't tell you which ones they were so it's more like a broad understanding of the series like the premise that as it goes on it starts to get more crazy and kind of deteriorate and stray away from what was like originally a pretty cool idea that's yeah that's basically what I've got Jay Longbow uh yeah basically seen all of them and the Chris Rock one uh just recently which I hated uh maybe I saw the first one in theaters when it first came out with my cousins just imagine uh the twist at the end and like a a theater full of stereotypical Negroes going ape [ __ ] over over all right John you're up same as Jay I went to see it I remember in theater it came out in like the small town I grew up in and it was like it was like the date movie to go see really and yeah except I didn't obviously didn't have a date at the time I just went with some friends of mine or I might have even just gone alone to see it I don't mind it that much the first two I don't mind if the first one reminds me of a really good student film you know there's some clever things to the script bogged down by overacting particularly in the second half but we'll get to that anyway that's my take on it I guess Pro tip next time take them to the zoo yes it's much better than taking them to saw Seoul is one of those movies that I remember because I was like I got into seeing this and now I'm like how did I get into this I was 11. how the [ __ ] um but I was very tall for my age and I'm pretty sure my dad was very fine with me seeing horror movies because I just they just didn't really I found them more fun and interesting than scary most of the time yeah I remember seeing this in theater and being like whoa this was really cool I really like this and then I know the first second and third pretty well and then four five six seven question mark I think all of them I could tell you the results but I can't tell you which ones are which so it was always fascinating to me such a strange set of movies for many reasons I think we'll get into them as we progress through them but yeah sir I remember the first one being pretty solid I'm curious how it's gonna hold up since it's been such a long time since I've seen it I don't know if I'm a fan or not of Saw I'll find out I think I'm not a fan of saw one thing I did know and it'll be a way to move on to the last person is that I very much enjoyed the coverage of souls stuff from certain reviewers including but not limited to IMS over here what do you think of oh thank you there's going to be points where you're all very confused about the timeline and I am here to help so if you ever if you ever get confused about what the [ __ ] is going on in these movies don't worry I've got you covered I can help don't be scared to ask whiteboard with all the names of the red lights it's crazy it is that's one of the things I'm kind of excited about I'm not gonna lie the reveals well there you go if anyone was curious about what kind of roster we got here got a whole set of different familiarity levels which is kind of what I was hoping for I really don't know how this is going to turn out so is everyone right with soul I'm ready spaghetti yeah oh oh man alrighty then three two one go oh wait hold up hold up I just got a phone call right at that moment sorry just a second okay pausing God damn it three two one go oh spooky wow that is that is pretty scary yeah this is the film that made Lionsgate it gave them enough money to change from that shitty looking logo Twisted pictures I've always thought had a neat little icon yeah oh I love it it's all twisty James one's first film right yeah I think it was first feature I think so this actually was a student film before it became a feature of course the big defining thing of the film is I didn't have a lot of money right is that kind of like defined scope of the projects and you can see I was gonna say the main character here or at least one of them is underwater this is foreshadowing Aquaman James who's also uh one of the writers collaborator with James one and he also directed The Invisible Man and upgrade was the Assumption there that he was put in the bath and he slowly slumped down until he was fully under and then it woke him up by doing that yeah otherwise he'd be dead who's that turn on the lights What if I I would have done that too I would have already I quite like the object being flushed down being the opening shot like to immediately throw the audience off balance where it's like wait what was that oh that might actually be important honey you don't want to just be wet you know just being wet just sucks that's true it does suck that's the real torture then they use this one for a scary movie skit there [Music] oh no this room is gross yeah this is not a good room yeah as much as being tied up is a bad thing you are a nice room you'd at least have that oh yeah what the is this calm down just just calm down what's your name my name is very [ __ ] confused what's your name hey very [ __ ] confused I'm dead name is Lawrence Gordon I'm a doctor I just woke up here just like you where's your tub yeah how come you're not all wet yeah that's the last thing you remember I went to bed and woke up and remember anything else interested body I've ever seen different in real life it'll move what what what not do they like zombies are you referring to zombies they've only ever seen dead bodies in Zombie films like kid zombies are not real do you see any scars this is what they do man they kidnap you and Drug you before they I'm not gonna say you're gonna tell me your name Adam whoever brought us here could have killed us by now but they didn't or maybe they're really bad murderers announce is like no I still want you dead I'm really bad at it clean clock it's brand new yeah so oh okay good observation dumbass yeah this is old I can understand how a room gets old and Rusty but when the toilet is smeared and [ __ ] like somebody can't take their hands in diarrhea wipe them everywhere so what comes into someone with an artist so they're just like how did that happen it's like you know old room man you know well they they kidnapped people before these people and they just wanted to mess up the room then they could go home oh my goodness it's a bullet it's French for bullet well I'm just trying again it'll be great if it just opens game over throw it under I wouldn't I would definitely have gone underhand yeah [Music] that's the way I swear I'll give you my key back it was mine no you should probably keep that key it's probably given to you for a reason oh yeah we could put these in the player for them oh yeah that makes sense that's like a puzzle stretch your skin stretch it they're doing the things they're supposed to do I guess is you basically do eventually you know it's like yeah [ __ ] I guess I would hold that you'd have to hold both ends and like scoop it and then pull it towards you like you'd hold the arms of the shirt and then you'd throw both ends forward so they have shoes kind of like Loop it tie the sleeves together or something no they don't have shoes okay yeah you need some initially at the end maybe take your shirt off and tie that into like a roll it into a bowl and tie at the end take your pants off oh that'll Wick too come on you can do it oh batteries are dead how do these work did I it's just baby shark and you can't turn it off so are you going to watch yourself die today Adam or do something about it throw me the player slide it please yes yeah no breaking it throw the scalpel over here well I'm sorry it's not my fault your aim in this game oh that's easy you have until six on the clock when there's that much poison in your blood the only thing left to do yourself cut that out there pretty good speakers on that tape yeah you can hear it across the room like crazy I will say well it's Adam's got it up to his ear it's really good Acoustics in this room you could have like a symphony in this room it's really good low end so jigsaw's voice [Applause] oh get [ __ ] you did not hear that follow your heart scratches his own Hall he's like it's in there oh no not the poop you know what you could look in the toilet your heart's hit bro follow the White Rabbit follow the Poo pods I love the poop art I love the poops easy for yourself in the top of the toilet my head I know right yeah oh look it's the heart is such poopy ones Jesus oh my goodness yeah that was the first place um try would have checked the tank is not generally poopy not generally like accidents happen so people need to go okay oh I still got the poopy on his head wipe your hands off or something what is that oh also what struck me when I was enjoying the [ __ ] out of it I was like man we're this far in and it's just two guys in a room that's neat and we're trying stuff we're sticking our hands in toilets yeah just two guys sitting in the hot tub slide oh my God why did you just slam it up against the wall before you throw air do you want to catch a flying song slide it across the floor I don't know that's not what I saw you don't that's that's ridiculous Madness way to go what was the budget for this I assume you don't know Adam I think it was uh like a million dollars right that was that was what they had and it made like a hundred million dollars so you know profit margin like return on investment God imagine how good that was feel as a filmmaker it's the reason why I became a franchise right now return on investment is insane quick another one another one another one another one another one and another one and another one there's more chance he wants us to cut through our feet I think I may know who's done this to us last I heard police still hadn't caught him the only reason I know that is because I was a suspect oh oh my goodness gracious oh that guy he's hedgehog man from X-Men he's a predator too he is indeed he's in a bunch of stuff yeah oh geez yeah Danny Glory oh wait I'm talking about both of them actually that's dis from Starship Troopers victims of 46 year old male died of massive blood loss I think she's already deduced this because it looks like people have already out of the ground right he started yeah maybe she's that good at her job it's amazing he got as far as he did yikes got himself so deep we found traces of stomach acid on the floor bro cancel time for you to die tyranny is that if you want to die you just have to stay where you are and if you want to live you'll have to cut yourself again that's not how you do it that's not how I would have done it now that the Helen Keller strategy is probably to be honest with you it looked like he probably could he had two hours yeah and you'd probably get hurt but technically this approach was bad yes the newspaper started calling him the jigsaw killer technically speaking he's not really a murderer oh yes he is he's absolutely right okay oh that's oh it was the bullet officer it wasn't me he's bullets in prison oh hi Mark if you're so sick then why do I have so many photos of you up and about right now there's a slow acting poison in your vein combination to the safe Israel yeah that's [ __ ] by the way that's a flammable substance smeared on your body they stuck some Dynamite up your [ __ ] for a house if it was if it were 50 numbers maybe but that well how oddy is that like a thousand oh the [ __ ] is he gonna get all that in there okay that one seems impossible yeah yeah also it was bright enough to not need the candles yeah just blow it out I think the implication was that it wasn't bright enough but just practically they had to film it yeah yeah so there's some people that have theorized that like maybe actually I'll explain later yeah these films get theories guys Tony Todd is jigsaw it's an inoperable frontal lobe tumor extending across the middle my name is John oh my God that saw as you can see that's the weird man because he's weird could be these two Doctor Surgeon people eat peoples you don't know no it's that guy maybe they want me to think it's that guy his name is red herring I think it might be I was about to say I was thinking of the fish but yeah I think it's I'm detective tap and I'm here to tap that ass oh he couldn't afford a tie that's fine like really though there's a reason they were able to get him for this film are you able to tell us where you were between the hours of 11 pm and 1 a.m last night doctor the lawyer yeah yeah seeing someone wasn't a patient all right oh oh no what am I gonna do it was a clown well as your lawyer and it was 90 clever oh yeah the Asian detective was in old everything's gonna be okay what's your name the guy was the spiky X-Man too I said that already hurt you my bad sorry this is over we have one of the victims who managed to escape tell me the first thing you remember you want to know how I got these scars I woke up that's [ __ ] iconic I was about to say so this is one thing I expected people to bring up this is something I remember yeah the reverse this is the selling point of the movie was this headgear invented for this film like this there's no reference yeah for him yeah blue game that thing looks like my grandmother oh my goodness that's not good you're gonna want to avoid that yeah that's a bad thing it's in the stomach of your dead soulmate ah excuse me sir your TV broke when you're done spazzing out would you look around oh balls should have done this more calmly Fox skin you might want to hurry [Music] The Riddler read me this [Music] [Applause] he's been injected with an opiate overdose he was having a great time come on that guy didn't get a choice no not really okay okay you did it though I still feel like since we've seen like three forms of traps now this one's a little bit easier in a sense yeah you had to [ __ ] up someone else yeah how is he supposed to get out congratulations you have earned your 20 Amazon gift card the Amazon gift card that was upsetting but it was worth it you are in fact a drug addict isn't that right Mandy aren't we all I'm addicted to life baby don't you drink coffee do you think that is why he picked you are you grateful Mandy a suspicious question asked helped me okay stop this woman needs therapy she just got therapy it helped her that was therapy that was the therapist listeners unorthodox but it's right doctors hate this one trick [Laughter] yeah sure how do I know you're telling the truth you could be the one who put me in this room you could be one put me in the room [ __ ] you go on Rock you with this you hear me what it's two-way mirror you're a two-way mirror whoa ouch what are they throwing I guess just chunks of the wall yeah little poop pieces that's some powerful poop right there man could you get lower res can you hear me in there huh I'm having a blast this is the most fun I've had without lubricant okay [Laughter] okay Tate told us to find an ax calm doctor guy when your wife and kid are out there he could be doing anything to them right now are you thinking about that I am thinking about that listen I am very much considering killing you okay yeah don't piss me off I'm thinking about the last thing I said to my daughter you told your daughter that Santa Claus wasn't real but we all know that obviously the only logical thing you have to read an entire lump of coal not to kill the dream it into smaller pieces but it will take longer it's me Dan Schneider go back to bed really gonna pick like anybody there's so many at this point who could be in the dark staring at the check off your socks yeah oh is she sleeping with her socks on some people do that some people do that yeah lunatics well I mean it's at night time the moon is out what is that wait the moon what oh yeah yeah oh yeah I was hoping you'd be proud of me for that like how long did it take to walk your Mother's Day Santa real tell me the truth and it is real isn't he dad was [ __ ] with us there's go to sleep This Little Piggy he's trying to say you're fat work sweetheart anyway so it's not gonna matter if I'm not here all right let's be pragmatic about this that's why I told you about the Santa Claus thing you're not mom's boyfriend said that tomorrow I'll read you a favorite story oh wow before you close the door I don't know how much longer we can tell him bedtime stories okay I mean I think it was like a j-cut but it did seem kind of yeah it did yeah stories aren't real go to bed and now he knows underhand okay yeah for the wallet you didn't want to you didn't damage the wallet you know it's really important it's more important you must really not be entertaining the idea that he'll kill him because you'd think you wouldn't want to get more connected in any way and show you stuff about yourself if you can actually consider killing this guy so where's the lucky wife there's another pitcher behind the one you're looking at oh my God wouldn't you have checked through the wallet when you find out that he planted a tape on one of you yeah to be fair there's a lot of poop on the wall so it's very distracting it's not here what this photo you're talking about is not here tell him that that was really [ __ ] awkward and obvious he was looking right at him too [Laughter] like oh what's that picture you got right there he's like what no nothing that is complete [ __ ] leave no I'm not feeling well right now I'm not sure not from Princess Bride people probably annoyed we haven't brought up Princess Bride yeah oh Santa Claus is evil good night good night casual jog yeah oh my God it's an actual ghost the guy was just standing there with the blanket draped over him that was pretty weird bro that was kind of cheesy before the action was a bit weird you're lucky that she wasn't like packing a gun or something and just shot your ass what if the husband was still there that's another adult human I guess you knew I guess he waited oh I guess if it was a while after it looked like it was right when the husband left it was hard to tell yeah because she was still standing in the same spot in the living room I'm a surprise contract pediatrician I do house calls I imagine these two are pretty stressed out you know [Music] for fun what a [ __ ] weirdo but then you know I guess it's like a little bit of his face there read the room dude see you does Dr Gordon know you're at home with his wife what are you doing there waiting for the doctor I'm waiting for the doctor too watching their house we're doing a little timeline Shenanigans right now this isn't happening now that's happened earlier no so well this is actually present but last we saw him was in the past where he was he was pretty chill see but he's not chilling yeah this is closer to the present than the initial investigations we saw so the current game is happening very close in the timeline to this current version of Danny Glover who seems a little bit spying on unhinged bad guys because you know when you put newspapers over the wall that just means you've gone nuts it was it's our choice you know we arrested at Dennis we like to play with kids a bit too much he lived two blocks from here the sewer lines run out of this neighborhood too oh you damn medical professionals is the same you say you help do you also do you have an extra tie I can borrow you're a doctor you surely have many ties Krispy Kreme [Laughter] it's a big beer wait wait wait see uh Oklahoma where the wind comes it's weird I didn't know what song was gonna come out when that joke began as I thought in my head but that's the song that came out that's just the first one comes to my head and we enhanced this computer enhanced territory section 4-6 the Asian detective I'll I'll say later actually yes we know he's the Hedgehog from X-Men three that's a real thing and I'm gonna make the editor grab that image you can't make me it totally can and will you gotta check the records for all the fire emergencies that occurred in that area within the last two weeks it's an old listing used to be a mannequin Factory you think we have enough for a warrant though who said anything about a warrant whoa Danny Danny oh my God they're doing things not by the book we don't need a war and he's like oh that's like illegal yeah we're going here in case something bad happens to us no we're Mavericks you're reckless that's why I brought you yeah there's no time I hope they caulk that thing several times that's my favorite movie trope someone around any corner I'm safe and secure look we bought it for the Department we need an excuse to use it you've always wanted to bring the shotgun now's your chance sing has always loved the shotgun that's why we call him shotgun Singh that's neat models this isn't crazy nerd what is this a torture room for ants oh my God oh my god oh jibbity Christmas oh hey man oh hi what you doing here [ __ ] a gun why we [ __ ] got them what the [ __ ] if you're just pointing it a gun at him when he walks in he could just turn around and then you have to chase him so that's probably not the best idea to just be standing there will be to get the jump on it hit him in the back of the head yeah you know hide somewhere good thing there's loud music so that he couldn't hear you guys running around I'm back from worshiping Satan honey just got back from a prize fight awake already Jeff I need more powerful tranquilizers next time don't move put your [ __ ] hands in the air like you just don't care [Music] foreign the second he made a movement you'd have thought they might shoot in 20 seconds the life of this man he did decide to point their weapons at him while he's right next to like a victim so yeah maybe a shotgun not the best he's slowly moving in a particular direction I'm like stop moving [Applause] [Music] over there where is it where is it it's in the box if you just took a hammer and beat those drills though it's like a thousand keys with the gun shoot the wire yeah shoot the pull the wire too is held up by wood right he disconnected the wire with his foot the wires that lead to the drill yeah probably the only Power table Yeah the shotgun where's the emergency stop oh Jesus oh man no wait no [ __ ] way I'll chase him at this point because this is his place who knows what he's got now if only he had like a tie to wrap around the neck too exactly he did the thing and the shell didn't fly out which he needs to this one ready to go it's whatever he aims it at anything that's how Resident Evil was doing that all the time is great [Music] oh it was someone else he put in the hood isn't it considering they're a business zillion of these films I doubt he just killed the killer it just seems twist that he's right there oh maybe that is the twist it actually is dead so like all the other films would just be like copycats who think this is a great idea oh or prequels how do you not notice that even I saw that all right oh no Jam oh my god did he have a vest on [Music] hey he survived and now we got a vengeful car the amount of [ __ ] regret you must have of all those decisions you didn't make when you could have that must have been rough Singh was a smart one he shot the drills no suspicious I'm looking at my fingers I'm just looking at this empty box just turn them off for a second and what you're up to but I'll do it I gotta poop oh oh it's the X Games how come we didn't see that before the lights in here hadn't charged you it must be glow-in-the-dark paint or something to be honest with you wouldn't the lights have been on when they were setting this whole thing up but I guess it was the amount of time that it that the lights were off because the guy was under yeah because the guy was underwater so it couldn't have been that long I still didn't understand the underwater thing to be cool he dropped in the water and that just straight out of the room again my explanation is he slowly sang until I think that's the only exploitation that you could have yeah everything else is a bit stupid oh that key I almost threw the [ __ ] away work it you'd think that you'd have enough practice throwing things to be a bit better at it at this point you know not even by this you're just like you're old enough to where you should have a basic ability to throw an object there's a Snickers bar in there you're not you when you're hungry I'm going to turn you into who you could really be flip phone okay oh sweet beautiful invention on this planet also the date said 9 10.01 by the way oh yeah a little unfortunate I think that's second most beautiful engine I found in this room in your mouth yeah [ __ ] it we're gonna die anyway yeah I really don't the cigarettes are harmless I promise think about this you don't need a gun to kill Adam may I please have a cigarette no it will give you cancer it's bad for you can you imagine that like you would give the cigarette jigsaw is like I mean he will die eventually so it counts it's good enough I finished at the hospital my car this is a hospital I don't believe this is a Hospital's parking garage is that what is that what he said this is like a party across the street and Robin the hospital parking was full I thought I was alone but I'm sure someone else was there of course he drives a BMW of course no wonder he's a dick hey wait so now we drive a BMW you're a dick oh no oh my goodness gracious there's two [ __ ] in there it's the crows parking garage it is that's like get away with any crime here [Music] are you not looking at your car you're doing this this is what the dog to be like what are you doing and the piss is like can I help you what's that noise whenever they show the pig mask in particular they do the monster noises over it going uh Adam are you thinking on this like the in Seoul they do that and then someone goes up to someone then it's like they knock them out and you're like well what did they do it's like they knocked them I assume that they have like they do shows the movie Trope is chloroform but there's other things you could use pocket sand of course how did you know to turn off the lights who cares it worked yeah but how did you know Instinct Instinct yeah you're a terrible liar you want to know yeah I'd love to know yeah how long would you guess they've been in here here it is uh 20 minutes 30 minutes maybe [Music] why didn't you show me this before yeah [Music] maybe the fact it's it's that's how raw it is these raw emotions they actually took this family you will be in this movie absolutely that was better you don't need a gun the only thing left to do what are you gonna light it with it was lighter lighter yeah which would make me think ooh fire that's pretty good what can we do with that good thing he's not looking yeah they do that a lot with each other what are you doing nothing I mean the audio would still come through normally so I don't know maybe they're whistling yeah he was whispering the problem is it's clear that that's happening so you have to keep that in mind now for whatever happens next so you uh you still want that cigarette do you like already suspicious at all yeah if I were the killer I'd be like the guys dude he did it again of the throat the thing that couldn't possibly be destroyed by an overthrow some lighter why they choose the opposite what every time I wonder when cigarettes will be like a Antiquated thing you have to explain people whether they are like phone something wrong people used to do that what are you doing oh God what if it looks like your life depends on it yeah like the poison just it makes you vomit profusely and then die so jigsaw's just like uh oh whoops can you hear that wow no that's for us yeah one thing I was thinking if he did go with like a hole I will try to kill him if you had to be a cigarette it had a big paper splooge on the end of it I'd probably be like uh oh wait this is my blood it looks like the killer that yeah in front of you it's lipstick you only tried for a few moments it might you might have to be a little patient I remember how I got here oh this is a depressing place to live wow you live here oh God it's like a million dollar apartment in Los Angeles this is like where the serial killer should live this is like the serial Killer's house in seven except he's not supposed to be a serial killer in this context he's just like a photographer dude it was shot in Australia wow no comment from the Australian damn oh what am I meant to makeup that's literally true filmmakers are music makes me think that this is the end of the movie it's like wait yeah there's so much to do wow photography's really boring I fell asleep dude there's a lot of times in this movie where they need to show us what's happening but the character can't see anything until it creates a little bit of dissonance but they've done it several times you could do it better than this you know foreign if you can introduce the idea which is he's walking and taking photographs this would be way better if it was pitch black with a couple of Reflections and then only yeah yes you only ever see the frame yeah this I think they're losing out on the effect by making us see everything plus that's like jump scare waiting to happen What in that case I'm an instant throw something at him oh don't do that oh wow tell me who sent you who is that did you hit the puppet you lose if you hit the puppet why did you hit the puppy did you not read the note on the puppet oh [ __ ] uh I put it right there it said to you that's a horror movie dwarf I've ever heard one yeah yes this is a horror movie apartment they really waited for it to take the photo oh God we've been here for 16 hours daily dab so he was asleep you could have just got him but you waited for him to wake up walk around his apartment find the [ __ ] doll and hit it with a basement yeah who is this yeah it's me I'm here this doesn't change anything about Santa Claus just super clear but what is that Larry Allie don't believe Adam's lies I knew all about you before today you mentioned your name you told me not to believe you believe me about what could you say it say it more guilty dude this was this film inspired L.A Dua I think so [Music] dude I love it what did you do last night Lawrence told me that after you left your house last night you went to work at a hospital it's because it's the truth no it's no it's not you don't recall getting your picture taken in that parking lot no man that was real subtle must have been my imagination take a picture of him without the flashlight yeah it's not the first time I've done it either Larry [Music] what's the flash of all of those because maybe you're so full of it face it Larry we're both bullshitters my camera isn't every image is completely accurate and cannot be manipulated because I was just horny let us do the sex how did you pick the greasiest hotel for us I think we were just in a greasy horrible place this is everywhere this is horrible Dr Gordon it's weird that we're not on a first name basis yet he's just gonna call it a [ __ ] their phone's gonna ring oh my God how did I see it coming you hear a voice like it past the door pick it up you tell me when you were here no hello it's for you if this is what you're coming to sleep with people the fair stuff you should really not hold that doesn't matter who's called it buddy this is bad news hello this is someone else hello this is the doctor's secretary know what you're doctor doctor right to go we go this scene then they keep adding different contexts to it to change its meaning no it's the scene it's not a Hospital parking lot but he is Rich and he really wants to save a lot of money on the [ __ ] hotels the person who paid you to follow me who was it tells himself Bob and he gives me the money up front whoever paid you to take pictures of me is the one who put us here what did he look like now he's just a guy was he tall was he skinny a beast what don't take notes about his appearance you're telling me you don't remember a thing about the guy oh for [ __ ] sake he's a tall black guy he's got a scar around his neck okay how did you not open with that yeah I have no idea what he looks like he looked a lot like Daddy Glover I don't know hilarious in Universe it's Danny Glover to police force the guy became obsessed convinced himself that I must have somehow been involved with the murders I mean it's crazy and you helped him you took money from him to invade my privacy you're not a victim of this game you're part of it oh yeah it's not part of the system the bottom feeder just like you what are you more pissed off about the fact that I took some shots of you or the fact that I took some shots of you while you were cheating on your wife very different [Music] mommy just needs you to be really really really really really strong right now stop crying not very convincing mom yeah but Mom you're not being very strong right now Brain Blast what the just my wife's boyfriend what does your wife's boyfriend look like he's like which one he's a tall black guy there's so many it's kind of like Danny Glover you didn't notice that from the pictures you took and developed that there was a guy standing in the window oh how did you not have this on your head yeah here I go kill him again but he's not really excited he doesn't want to do it he's being hired just like the other guy was hired so it's a mastermind Gordon's time time is up I'm afraid it has to be you that tells him he failed is that yourself you bastard I know it's you you son of a [ __ ] Holly yeah [Music] shoot him you might want to shoot him he's like okay right now let me explain 10 reasons why you shouldn't shoot me I want you to get out of reaching and grabbing this he's getting a little closer lady where are you oh yeah you're so incredible I told you to be strong idiot all you had to do is do not be within arm's distance you know for a fact keep pulling the trigger empty the gun so he can't use it against you you know the perfect is like finally Jesus freeze tap come on that covers not as good as you think it is bullets okay [Music] [Laughter] oh no oh man I'm allergic to flowers if this bullets did not good you should totally have killed tap there right double tap oh and there you go oh my God it's reloading dude he's got his back to tap right now it comes out you still have to pull the slide back there's nothing right he has to if you pull the Trap is moving around like it just doesn't seem to care like let's go against that reload now it wasn't even oh God filmed in a garage it was like we need permits to go on the road [ __ ] that [ __ ] right with a gun pointed at it so once you walk through he's gonna shoot you no I guess I'm not because that's not what people do that's pretty small I'm thinking he's gonna do something pretty cool and interesting oh no it's just Outreach damage why'd you go and do that awkit if you need to climb down the ladder climbing down the ladder with the gun your [ __ ] there's other things you can do at the moment oh you're so bad at just just being bad yeah use your [ __ ] Lawrence calm down there must be a way out in here throw him your shirt he can't figure it out himself oh I'm trying to will my arms longer he's going to try to scream the chain off I'm gonna punch you in your sick [ __ ] subtitle for that yes he's figured it out I mean the shirt you could use for something else you could use them why do that when I knock my leg off oh you know you should really think this through yeah you're probably sure what are you gonna do when you reach the bone not even your biggest problem I just hear the noises quality sound right there wow you pulled up okay oh okay yeah he did because the guy had a limp right up the ass I'll jump on him like a bouncy castle make sure the gun is out of arms distance oh he managed to get his hands over there oh God why are you so bad literally I'd be [ __ ] backflip gunshot him like just two days from retirement maybe we'll wait till the end but I really want to talk about detective tap's story because what do you mean it was great it was great on this shirt when he shot him what a terrible day that my favorite song is Footloose [Music] okay um hey man I'll [ __ ] kill you you chucked your foot off damn dude nice your hit your foot is clearly yeah yeah it's the rules oh my god toileted look up with your leg just poison everywhere honestly I've never thought of that that's really true rubbing your flash along that poisony blood is not a good idea now kiss I don't think it's that kind of movie or like listen okay I tried killing you but I missed but you'll be okay now are you ready for the first Soul revilio zap this is slow acting poison coursing through your system which only I have the antidote There are rules thank you there were rules oh my God yoga in here oh ah that was getting itchy that's the last time I drink tequila why are you [ __ ] with me I don't like that at all his name is John it has an inoperable frontal lobe tumor sick of people who don't appreciate Their Blessings looks like our guy likes to book himself [Laughter] epilepsy oh Jesus yeah most people are so ungrateful to be alive but not you not anymore you're going upstairs to watch Regis game over game over yeah he said the thing get me out of here I didn't do anything I love a happy ending yeah yeah we did it we saw saw we no longer have to see songs oh my goodness Monica Paul said oh Harry Potter's boat there's still plenty of Saw to see you guys so what do you think I didn't like it oh like part of the product of its time it's moderately amusing to watch in a group of people who like are making fun of it sort of but I cannot imagine ever going to a theater and thinking wow that was good we need more of this I don't think it holds well hang on did you think a quiet place was good um oh wait did I yeah I didn't even know you're referring to me is that my thought yeah I think you also thought it destela was good okay like it's all right we've all been there okay if we were to just grant those things as true for the sake of this argument what does that have to do with saw uh Soul's better than both of them definitely I was hoping to get to the points of uh praise as well I like making fun of it but there's plenty I like in this the overall idea of just a new kind of serial killer quote unquote new and then all these big twists and turns and all the revelations that come one by one like yeah I could totally understand how an audience would be engrossed in this absolutely yeah I mean it's just like very strong yeah it's a nice small thing kind of like Cube was yeah where you can just film something really low budget small cast uh limited locations well then in this case it couldn't it have been better sure could it have been worse yeah for the problems that it has I think it's all right I like it and I think it's good uh yeah same jigsaw decided I'm going to plant them all in the room and I'm actually going to leave the key to the chains attached or at least floating in the bath so let's pretend for a second that anyone else character wakes up and he he doesn't immediately thrash so he opens up a thing just goes what the [ __ ] and then he in his hands move around he says oh what's this chain thing and holds on to it before he gets out yeah and then he goes right this oh this opens my thing cool this opens yours all right okay well like what what is the idea there it doesn't really cut to the core of the concept of Jigsaw does it okay I always thought that it was supposed to be a really great added on way of just being like see you're your own enemy or something it's like [ __ ] off how was he supposed to do yeah it's to add an extra layer of like oh I think that there's a fear in regret in these films where it's like oh I could have done this if only I had known this then I'd be alive but now I have to live knowing that I could have saved myself and I didn't yeah like that's a very common thing in these films and it's just a way of them adding that it's not it doesn't make any sense I think that's pretty accurate they wanted that beat so badly that they didn't think about the actual logic of it the the whole idea what jigsaw is because he's dying he's really upset about seeing people wasting their lives so he puts them in scenarios that are meant to test you know basically yeah decisions they make in it because they're almost they're supposed to be like appropriate to this story at least yeah pretty much I think that was exemplified yeah the guy was cutting himself despite having a life that's perfectly acceptable he's like so how much you're gonna cut yourself to keep your life just like yeah I guess he he has his philosophy but he clearly plays favorites a bit easier I kind of I kind of want you to keep living and I kind of want you not to but I'll pretend as if you all have a chance that guy who has to unlock the safe what were his thoughts yeah yeah sorry sorry buddy that's one of the things I remember when I watched this that I felt uncomfortable with I felt like if the choice of those three games we saw other than the the one that these guys are going through it's like well I I guess the one you want probably the one where you have to hurt someone else but then again yes the Bob wire one that really seems possible to me maybe I need to be there to understand how much it's not possible at all or it's gonna be weird crawled along the ground really slowly yeah yeah if you go real slow you've got two hours to get across what looked to be like two meters maybe three I will say I I vastly prefer jigsaw as an antagonist to an amorphous death from the Final Destination movies nothing Well only because of the execution I would say myself yeah I suppose well here's the thing watching the Final Destination movies to work on the edits for him I was like oh so any [ __ ] nonsense can happen at any time cool but it's great but this you know the way he executes his plans are very kind of over the top but I appreciate that there's a character there that we can try to make sense of hmm I think there's a bit more motivation than just they should all die yes yeah honestly I think that's part of what Dave sword's character as well that that whole like that he does it for a reason but I don't know how well it carries through the bowl we go on so now I want to talk about detective tap he's the best detective oh I remember even when I first saw this I was like please give me something more than just like he just dies he kind of repeats too he dies though he gets his throat his partner killed so he goes on like the The Arc of like the avenging cop who's lost his ways unhinged but he's still gonna follow this case he's gonna put it through the end he just gets killed but he's crazy yeah it's just like oh he's watching the security camera like 24 hours a day for years he's finally got his moment he shows up with half a clip of ammo preparing for this moment like for years wouldn't it have been more satisfying just tweak it so that he and zap kill each other and then we get to think about how both of them are like under jigsaw's game kinda and they were they got the point of killing each other when that neither of each other were what they they wanted really something like that because like oh man I've always remembered being so unsatisfying they have a little boss fight he just gets killed you're like oh that just seems pointless we got goofed yeah it's like the least satisfying way to possibly watch that play out he's just two idiots fumbling around well yeah the way he gets shot is like everything I don't know it's all terrible uh if Adam knows this but I've played through it the soul the video game detective tap is saved yeah someone medically and then he's put into a series of traps that he's got to go through I forgot he was the main character yeah yeah I would like to uh just share like a one minute clip uh if if that's fine this is in the settings for the if you go to the game settings for saw the video game this is what you hear [Music] hahaha [Music] oh God [Laughter] this should have just played over the credits of the first movie yeah yeah the voice acting is so bad so held back I like this yeah it's not great not great [Laughter] I am I am constantly thinking about that voice acting like all the [ __ ] time almost sounds like Morty it's so embarrassing [Music] oh geez get me out of here out of curiosity what number do you give this little one I have it rated as a seven right now holy moly um I out of a million there's so much wrong with it and like the The Experience does dwindle the more times you see like I've seen it probably like 20 times so like this this time I felt like it was kind of more of a six but I don't know I I do have kind of like a bias and favoritism towards these because I you know grew up with them and yeah it's so nostalgic for me I don't know the the first one the first one has very humble beginnings and I appreciate it for that at least um yeah as Frankie said I like it more than I think it's good I can't even say it's a five like it's not on Big Star I think it's got too many problems uh and you really like how much of it takes place just in the one room with two people yeah we do a lot of flashbacks but all the stuff for most of the stuff I should say before the acting gets a little uh wacky wow it's just the two of them in the room I quite like it pretty sure this is the best one yeah yeah question mark I would say that oh my goodness yeah so that'll be interesting to see I depends how you're judging it if I want to put on another one right away just for my own personal enjoyment this isn't the one that I would put on first but I'll let you know when it comes up but yeah this is definitely the the one to most appreciate in terms of like its Legacy I guess uh that was Soul um I saw was there anything else you guys wanted to mention about this movie Before We Say Goodbye it was funny I found it more funny than I've ever found it and I think that's because I've been watching it with all of you that could be one yeah yeah Ally there's some clever attempts at plotting but it needed more work on it Carrie always is very funny in the movie yeah yeah I also think that the film has a style that comes through pretty clearly there's a lot of cool shots oh dude I would go as far as I say Souls a Series has a style that I don't associate with much of anything else got its own voice for sure so I like the little puppet puppet I hope he has his own movie puppet hasn't gonna appear real quick you could call it spiral as a reference okay I'm very clever okay bye goodbye everybody [Music] ouch [Music] [Applause] what'd you bring me

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Published: Sun Oct 01 2023