Dyl & Friends | #82 Patrick Cripps

[Applause] patrick crips welcome back to the dylan friends podcast my friends and honors a pleasure it's been about two years since you featured episode eight long time ago can you remember i can it was with a doctor yeah now it's a pleasure being on the number one podcast in the in the nation buckaboy we love that patrick and we love your support and we know you've been a big supporter of the show for a long time so it's a pleasure to have you back um and jeez mate the fans of the show and should i say the fans of yours have been crying out for this they can't get enough they want to know more and i know they're excited for this yeah well to be honest but i do listen to your podcasts um and i'm quite impressed with the following you got i have done an amazing job so i just thought i'd pump your tires at the start but um yeah and i'm i'm interested to um yeah have a chat with you and hopefully give a few interested people something into the life of what uh what i do and um yeah see they're interested or not mate they are definitely interested and you're a busy man now a lot of people as we said before a lot of people know you as a footballer the captain of carlton but nova radio these days studying investing tick-tock what else is [ __ ] top mate what else has been going on have i summed it up or is there anything else we don't know about it at the present stage um no that's that's pretty much you know i yeah i like to keep busy um always like i said before you're um trying to find ways to grow us on field off field um currently studying agribusiness which is basically ag science across business so i'll finish that um by may um so that's been really good it's sort of something i've chipped away at as a as i've played footy um yeah and just other things like i enjoy investing i don't know a heap about it but um i did actually a bit of a work placement um with stu k works at a scala partner he's a great cartoon man and um he's been a really good um sort of mentor for me um recently over in this finance space i really enjoyed that i did that over the over the summer um yeah then uh the old r [ __ ] talk that it definitely got a bit more published than i was uh i was asking for uh i was just trying to have a bit of fun with the missus and and keep rapping all of a sudden i'm playing golf and i'll get a mates back home saying i think you've got a world of hips big fella yeah that was horrific but yeah i must say that was that was really bad um i don't want to go back to a few of the things probably where we left off last time okay the show's changed now but i want to go back because there's things that i've realized prior to your draft okay you're taking pick 13. the pick before you and the pick after you i think was giants and richmond have both played now in grand finals yeah premierships i don't want to start this on a negative note because it's not because there's there's a lot a lot of time left how does that sit with you now thinking [ __ ] like if i went one before one after i could have been a premiership player per se yeah it's sort of that um i like i don't know if you look at like a sliding doors moment but like even the one before the richmond was don shea the eagles um i would say he's probably the greatest guy of all time the grand final but i i don't really look into that because um i know you can look in hypotheticals all the time but um it's just it's not that where you're at at the moment and um i know i've always seen although i came to the club a really difficult time i really enjoyed the challenge of it um not gonna lie there's been some times where yeah you're really three times three i know i pray all the years where you're really um i know you're just trying to find motivation and keep it going and um especially 2018 i'm just getting pumped every week only one two games that really tested i suppose your mental sort of resolved but um i think that's the beauty of where the group is at now we've sort of we've been through a lot of hard times um and we've all tried to stick together and grow as a group and create a culture where everyone comes and they can be themselves and get better as a person as a player and i feel like now we're in a really strong position um i suppose to really climb up the ladder and i don't have a lot of fun with a group we've sort of built around and um yeah i've never won to to to actually go that path and i'm really excited sort of the next i know six to eight years of what we've created um where that will go and um so like i think i'm coming to the years now we're going to play best footy at sort of 26 to 30 and um we've got a good mix of young and old now on the list we've got a lot of young talent coming through but about 21 to 23 that um are really impressive and that they've taken the game to the next next level then you've got older guys like jonesy ed murph um even levi so you've got a good mix of sort of age demographics so um yeah look it is what it is and um yeah you sort of want to create your own sort of sort of path now 100 man i think it means more not that it doesn't mean more getting it early but i think when you really have to fight for it it is a little bit sweeter um talking about that list sort of make up now because it's something that i didn't really realize what a list was like until i went to the giants and you can sort of compare yeah and you look at where colin's at now and obviously you know my heart lies with with carlton and the giants but a special part of me is with carlton and you look at it you know you've got the good players now you've got those young guys but i think most importantly the thing that i think made the giant so good was still those really like gritty role players yeah even looking at jacob weathering's uh being air speech the other night he said to jonesy like i wouldn't have won this without you now that's very nice in itself but in all seriousness like how important are those guys now like jonesy doesn't get the credit his deserves i think i've spoken about him on the show before but i remember when i was there he signed a three-year deal playing as a ford he could not get a game they pretty much said to him might go play backline um get out of the way because we've got harry mackay coming through and you're chewing up his space he went back ended up becoming like 10 best on grounds in a row playing full back hearts in half back forty's way back into another three-year deal and now he's one of the most important players in the team like it it's one of the most underrated stories in football i think like in present time it's one of the best stories i can if you actually get him to explain the full detail of where he was at where his mindset went and then where he is now and how he sort of bounced out of her you can't help but smile um but he also have such appreciation for the type of person he is to see where he is now and still and he's so grateful for everything you know what his humor is like he's one of the funniest guys going around like quotes every movie yeah i mean like walking around just random movie quotes um what i love about him and sort of goes back to my point before is um he can go he can be the nicest guy off the field so funny and like just give time to everyone but he turns on the foot he's scary he's scary like he's kamikaze he's so courageous and i love where to speak for that reason and um waiters was unbelievable this year like if you actually your accounts would appreciate his year so much more he was he was so good for us um but i love how he said you know i couldn't do it without yeah and and that's what team sports all about you know ain't like yeah although wade has had an awesome year it's that it's having a team around you that makes you better and um i suppose happy for each other's success and i feel like we've got that right now and i suppose back to jonesy how much we raid him internally he won our mvb which we we call our most valuable like a players player so he actually won that this year which we sort of as a as a club we put that on the same sort of pedestal as the bnf and um i suppose that like you said the role players like you look at someone edcarno like just got such an appreciation for him and um and he just gets the job done every week lucky plowman and then you talk about the mix of sort of young and old like you got a guy like mark murphy um who i know obviously you know really well and he's absolutely legend of bloke but um for someone like myself and doc going through the leadership journey and having him to bounce off and then even this year to see his leadership throughout the connecting young guys he's worked really close with zach fisher liam stocker and guys like that um that's the importance of i suppose the list demographics having a bit of a mix of young and old and still having wise heads around you yeah definitely i think it's all sort of coming up and like boiling up i know you know people will say they'll laugh and say that's been going for years but internally now you actually can see that there is some some really strong things starting to form while we're on the topic as well i want to talk about um zach williams now i've pumped him up enough um externally but i want to say it on now beside yourself one of the best players i've ever played with um can you give us a bit of a rundown of probably the impact that you feel that maybe zach and sard can have this year together um obviously playing full half back they can play up on the wing but also they can release sam dougherty as well yeah how have those guys been coming in um and and how do you feel that they can go this year yeah it's a funny one i think if you look at attacking half backers if you had to ask us at the start last year who's the two attacking up backers you'd want in the comm you'd probably say start and exactly we're in the terms just like there's more that chaos than creativity yeah i think doc's a bit different to him he's um he's just so smart reads the game so well and he just everything's calculated over there they just get the ball and they just you know they just make it up so um i think what we lacked last year is those type of players that real speed and creativity um my very different very different ends like they play very similar they're very different sort of uh people in a good way and zacky surprised me like he's he's been training with the midfield um he's bloody tough and he's hard at it which i i think everyone just appreciates like watching from afar how good his skill was i've half back in his dash but i'm even going forward like he's kicking goals and um he's just he's one of those players that like that trainer you won't send that then you get a match play and you're like yeah all right he can play yeah um sardi's just then he got sad he just made his runs like it looks like he's gonna better get caught like do you mean how he has when will yes he just like he just runs looks like he's in second gear and someone comes up so he looks behind him and just keeps going goes goes to third meanwhile i'm in six it's still it's still going backwards from him yeah so now they they both had a massive impact and i'm pretty excited i've got a game against oh basically any game this year but we've got a game as opposed coming up and i'm just excited to see how much um their creativity makes our team better and i think one thing that you i know that you love and you pride yourself on is stepping up in big games um just knowing zack and what he's done something really stands out from him because that's where you get judged on the big stage is when he did his achilles i think it was in 2019 he came back and had literally not played a game the whole year he played one game in the nifl and had i think he would have probably got 70 touches but that doesn't say much i think i'd about four and then after that he went straight in and played a preliminary final against the swans at the scg the bloke had about 10 tackles played midfield 30 touches and you and i aren't probably breaking news here but he's not the most fittest guy he's not the guy that's going to win a 2k time trial you can sort of think jesus you know he's just like what's going on here but as soon as he gets into the game it's scary what he does and he's and he plays well in big games yeah i was actually at that game the um the prelim and i remember thinking um oh just how good he was at that time and like you said big games where it counts but yeah you're right he's um he's not a 2k specialist but hey there's there's nothing wrong with that neither were you um my last bit on on carl and i suppose and we have touched on it a bit but when is that stage now it's you know because i'm i'm i'm obviously friends with a lot of you guys but i'm also now not in the game so i can understand what it's like as a supporter um and you know obviously players feel the frustration supporters feel the frustration but you think now like it actually is building to something that's going to be pretty special yeah i believe that um but i'm also one not to um produce in the pudding you know what i mean like yeah as much as you chat and it's like anything like that a lot of people say they're going to do things but until you actually do it you can't actually judge so um from what i've seen and the work we've done and the group we've got i feel like we've got a really self-driven group that's working really hard and it's probably the most impressed i've been this pre-season with the way guys returned um they've got better i think there's more pressure for spots which is making people better groups closer just even the hub last year match really close so i feel like we're in a really good position to attack the year and that's what excites me um but like i said before like will we judge on how we play and i'm really confident we're going to play well and you see that now too i think you've got to take confidence out of the last few years like western bulldogs for example come from nothing get up straight up to finals richmond the same they were literally bottomed out turn the club around it actually doesn't take long but in saying that it takes a long time but the change can be quick in terms of it can take a long time to build those fundamentals or you know the culture whatever it is but then the difference from you know 16th to 4th can actually be quite quick yeah no and i agree with you and once you get up there you want to start there and that's where you have appreciation for teams like i suppose geelong richmond at the moment um brisbane the last few years eagles like their clubs are just have stayed up there and and we want to be one of those clubs and um and that's when you get there the respect of the whole competition is um everywhere you rock up and um you know your worst is still a chance to win the game um which is where we want to get to definitely mate let's talk about you now um this show is about you now one thing that i'm really excited about you're doing um and i think this can take you to another level if there even is one but you're studying psychology talk me through this how did this come about yeah so i've sort of um well like i said before like i've had last few years i've learned a lot about myself and um through a lot of sort of self-discovery things and you're trying to find ways to make yourself better you sort of start finding out what your passions are and um i've got a real big passion just for i suppose getting the best out of myself but also helping others be their best and through that i just sort of realized the importance of of the i suppose the brain and the psychology of everything and that's it just in life or um in sport and um yeah so basically once i i finish this my degree in ag ag business i'm gonna do a post grad in in psychology um basically just get a more understanding but um yeah i've just started reading a fair few books about it um did an online course um it really um made me learn a lot about myself and um from that i think this was a lot of this happened last year and the year before but last year a lot of people asked me like oh you must have had a tough year and i actually say to them to be honest last year probably the best year of my life um and they always say oh geez it was must be tough go on the hard but a lot i wanted to put in perspective like um i was in a hub i still had a job playing footy around my mates the whole time well everyone else in melbourne was in lockdown so i had a different appreciation for what we're doing but also it made me realize what's really important in life and when i went back home like your friends your family your health all this covered stuff being set up but also being passionate about what you want to do so that sort of took me on a journey of sort of i suppose learning a lot about myself and um i suppose that's what i did last year just learned a lot about myself and now i've got a really good understanding of who i am as a person and what i want to do going for which is i think it's going to help my footy as well just in terms of i've got passions outside of footy which is i'm really enjoying was there a moment that sparked this or was it just a gradual sort of thing was it was there a time when you were like now [ __ ] you know i'm not enjoying this maybe i was you weren't as happy as what you were playing footy or was it just a gradual learning and obviously you have mindfulness coaches and psychology psychologists at the club um was there a specific thing that sort of triggered the the learning of it yeah i was probably reflected a lot i like to reflect a lot on sort of experiences and um i think like 2018 2019 um i was probably playing my best footy but um probably wasn't my happiest i don't think um and just a lot of stuff like i look back now and things i weren't getting while i'm asleep um die looking after myself having hobbies outside of footy um putting so much pressure on myself to play well um and i credit anderson a lot when he came in he taught me a lot about the sort of um just the sort of well-being space sleep and the importance of all things but uh he's someone he's a bit of a guru and he's feeling he knows so much i just picked his brains a lot and he sort of i sort of went going down that path and um he i just saw the impact he had on on people um and his ability to i suppose be there as a basically he tries to help people get better um and i really enjoyed that and um yeah so from that i was kept reflecting it was actually interesting i was i was um it's a really good story you'll like this one but um i was back home the break and um loser uh massage therapist um like she's an absolute legend yeah shout out yeah eliza you're a legend if you if you're listening in but um she's like one of the best masseuses i've ever had but we always chat about things and um she sent me this podcast and it was on um it's about pete carroll um so i listened to it and just like this really inspired me the podcast and anyway from that i realized how he had had an online course um with a high performance psychologist i already followed on twitter and from that i just did a bit of research into it and then i ended up doing this course which is called compete to create and basically it's a self-discovery high performance online course and i was like you know i would give it a crack i've got nothing to lose i mean a bit of lockdown and from that may like just that's where i learned so much about myself and um this high-performance space was like i'm so intrigued in this what's in this what's in this course like what does it sort of teach you um basically compete to create yeah um i just it teaches you really a lot of self-discovery so you do so much reflection on who you are as a person and why you think a certain way um you sort of peels back your values um and then basically you come up with a bit of philosophy and a vision for yourself of where you want to go and then after that it builds on a bit of wellbeing stuff and then real high performance um mindset principles basically it's to get the best out of yourself um and i was i was doing my and like you know when you're doing uni sometimes you're like it's a chore this was like i was coming home from training and i was buzzing the door yeah and that's when i started to realize like geez i found a bit of a passion here um and then you combine that up like with i suppose the leadership space the club lock um because we've had so much turnover we've got so many young guys like just really resonated with me how much enjoyment i get out of helping these young guys um achieve their goals and and helping them get their life and i always say this but when you after a game when you you're working with a young guy and you win and you see them play well and the smile like yeah like that is that's the best feeling like that's better than yourself playing well because you know how much uh how happy they are and they're really starting to find themselves so yeah just all that stuff sort of made me reflect and be like yeah this is a bit of a passion of mine and something i'm going to keep sort of growing i love it man something that resonated with me just then um is helping other people and like communicating with other people sharing the same interest as other people like with this podcast for example i get the pleasure of having guests like yourself on that have like incredible stories that i can learn something from and when i listen to that i'm learning that but then i'm then talking to someone else and being like oh i learned this from this person and then other people are listening to that and then they can learn from it so in a way the best part of the show for me sometimes is when someone will message me being like [ __ ] i listen to this episode with paddy cripps this course compete to create i went and did it [ __ ] that was the best thing in the world and that sort of a similar feeling i can imagine to what you would get helping out these young people um the ability to sort of be able to pass messages on to them and then see them use them um is you know it's unforgettable yeah it's awesome and also look at when i first got the club and the peep that really helped me as well and you have an appreciation for the guys that really helped you get there and um like yeah i just remember my first few years at the club and um certain moments just stick out like michael jameson was so good to me um off field and just been a mentor um like judy's influence on me was huge i've talked about murph before but his influence i mean so he had so many different influences and then like you said you get so much knowledge from people and it's like oh this is making me better how do i share and i think that's a beautiful podcast like video of your podcast and beauty of a lot of podcasts basically it's people telling stories to help other people get better and that's why i like listen to podcasts lists and read books is like basically people have learned things they've got this knowledge and they want to share that to other people to help them get better which i find really interesting i love it one thing i've picked up lately and i'm sure you'd be all over this is in terms of mentors right something i've picked up massively of light is a mentor doesn't have to be someone that teaches you what to do or tells you something that you can learn from you can actually pick up mentors that teach you what not to do yeah so like i've probably my whole life thought i need someone to show me how to do this i need someone to show me how to do that and then thought [ __ ] there's people in my life that are actually mentors but they're not not that they've done anything wrong by me but you can actually learn like [ __ ] they did this i'm not going to do that yeah have you had situations like that well yeah i think you see situations and once you start like you said you're working out what you want to be um you can see and not might not be direct in contact with you but you can see what other people do and you're like well that's not something i want to do or be portrayed as yeah um yeah mentoring is it's an interesting one and i think um i think it's just good to keep meeting people like i said meeting people um and just asking questions and being curious about you know their story and how they got the best out of himself because the more you like you said you hear different people's stories and there's something you might grab from me like you know i really like that i'm gonna learn more about that or um yeah you just you start piecing the puzzle together i reckon the more people you talk to and you learn new stuff um you mentioned before reading books is a big one what have you got for us in in that space we love a book recommendation on this show we can't say we read them all but we do love book recommendations yeah i love like a lot of self-help books i'm not uh not fine non-fiction um you would have read grit then because that was that was a andrew russell recommendation yeah i've got that on my um on my to-do list okay i just finished um seven habits of highly effective people okay that was really good that's a really good self-help book um true north uh that's a ben crow one um that's a leadership book um i just uh read the happiest men alive oh yeah about it yeah good that was good that's a really easy read um that was really good just it's basically just i have an appreciation for what they went through but how you can um i suppose find gratitude and find purpose you know the smallest things in life i think it's really important especially what we i suppose the whole world's gone through in the last year um what's the other resilience project yeah um i find that that's a really good story and if you're not a big reader um that's one recommended recommendation i'd have for a really easy read and you just read that book and you actually just smile like um so that that'd be one um that i'd really suggest that's been a big one for me as well i think a lot of people we had hugh on the show um last year and his story is just it's so relatable and i think that i love people that tell their story but understand that it's not always going to be easy i think one thing that q does really well and if you haven't read the the um resume's prospect gratitude basically yeah and you know with a lot of self-help books it's sort of like do this and you'll live this enlightened life but you've got to stick to this path yeah i love people that understand that it's not just a linear path but you can be grateful then you can be ungrateful but you can go grateful again same as emma murray we had her on the show the other day and she's probably one of my favorite um podcasts i've ever done just because the fact that she gave so much incredible information but said look at the end of the day you're going to have ups and downs and you're not going to be the most grateful person every day of the week but it's about getting back to that as quick as you can yeah but i want to talk to you about a moment and i hope that you remember this and i'm sure you will because it was a fair game but i feel like from chatting to some of your friends um and especially before you mentioned 2018 2009 in that time when you might not have been enjoying footy as much as you should you could have there was a game at the end of the year and around this time you were just cooked mentally exhausted um you absolutely stuffed and from good authority that was a space you're in the next day you went out and had 39 kick four in probably one of your best games you ever played for more reports that was probably a big turning point to you to realize how important all this stuff was yeah no it's spot-on i am yeah i've told the story to a few people when they laugh they're like you could have been feeling bad but honestly i was um i was so close to pulling out that week i was just so yeah i just was in a good space mentally it's probably sixth week's lead up of just it's like i think in that space we've won three games out of 44. um you're trying to give so much and um yeah just you want to win basically and um and that was the week that um bolts got got fired and um a lot of really good relationship bolts um and yeah it was it was a tough way but i was just mentally cooked and i remember like i had no energy i'd come i was lethargic a part of mine was just like you just not yourself at the moment but i couldn't see it like when you're in a bit of a hole like that you just don't see you just naked and um i remember going ander russell jack and um on thursday and i said i don't think i can play and he goes just give it another few days you see you guys and like had made in the hands i couldn't look at him in the eye i was just like nearly a broken human and i went around baney's house he's my manager uh the night after his for a feed um and i see i remember sitting on his bench and he's like are you pumped for tomorrow i was like man i just don't think i can do it i guess what do you mean like i was i just don't think i can play tomorrow and um i was like i was really close to poor now i'm like i'm not putting any mail on this story at all um but yeah the next day i sort of woke up tomorrow um my ladies footy club it's been a big change um how i show up he's gonna be a reflection of the group and i remember even driving to the game was that eddie had and i was cooked in the car but i was like i made a thing to myself all right when i go to chat rooms i'm gonna be up and about gonna have energy and i'm just gonna have fun playing today and um yeah it was a weird one like i was so mentally cooked and um yeah i just had one of these games where i don't i don't explain it you just you get into that that state where you just just happened um and it was one of the just one of my happiest moments of footy not because i played well it's more just i don't know we're just the the group like was just so pumped because we hadn't won much like it was just a special day i remember seeing the fans just smiling um in the rooms like everyone was smiling and then that night we actually went back to the club and um we sat around the fire and had a few beers and everyone just had to chat and it was just a real moment that i'll never forget where it's just everyone bonds and that's what footy is all about i know you worked so hard throughout the week and you said it before like you gotta have some fun and i really like enjoy getting around everyone having a beer after game just relaxing and um yeah it was an awesome day and then even after that matter like that next week i just i was knackered like i i wear the by the way you know we played the bulldogs we had the bye the week after and i asked for a bit of extra time so it's cool went back to the farm i was sleeping 12 hours a night back on the farm i just absolutely knackered i actually broke my toe um in that game um so i played the bulldogs a week after got stepped on again then i missed three weeks with a broken toe so um yeah a lot happy in that time but it sort of gave me a really appreciation for the power of the mind and no matter what you're going through um that self-talk and you can get yourself in a state of mind like you can you can perform um and like like you said before really open up that space of like all right how can i then get better through sort of stuff with the mind um show the importance to guys around with the mind but then also the the from it not from a performance point of view but just the well-being side of like you got your physical health you've got your mental health um and making sure you're looking after and at the time i didn't know how much i was struggling but people around me saw it and that's i suppose you're going even deeper it's like with the mental health side you never know what people are going through and a lot of people have experienced that in the last sort of nine months but just ring and maintenance ask you know what i mean because and they might not uh like straight away they might open up if you keep pro pro and then all of a sudden they might just open up to you so um yeah i'll probably dribble it on it'd be a bit long there i was immersed in that it was fantastic and i it's you know you could have answered it better um i never had that scenario play out in my mind but i totally understand i get it because i think looking at it now going forward and as you said that would give you so much confidence knowing that no matter how you feel going into games you can still perform and i think i'm sure you would remember this but one thing i loved about bolts and i i feel like i actually feel like boltz was one of the best coaches i've played under and i've said that a lot but he used to say this thing as soon as he got to the club and he'd be like we are training every day to go into a grand final where it's 30 degrees you're injured and you're going into each quarter time break one point down so like straight away it was like you're thinking about the hardest day of your life and it's gonna be the hardest day of life you know how hard it's gonna be but when you get there it'll probably be easier and i remember thinking like that i was like [ __ ] why is he making this sound so hard you know like shouldn't it be enjoyable like you know get there having fun in the grand final but he was setting it up as the worst day of your life because when you get there and it's not as bad as what you think it's going to be it's actually easier yeah yeah it's just the mental stuff you know like hey yeah i'm the same i think boltz did so much good for our club and from where he took it to where it was at the end like the standards he set and um as you would know it was a huge change when he did rock up and i supposed to discipline the standards really increased dramatically um yeah like all that stuff's just like he's just tapping into the mind and um and it's like imagery or things like that like yeah um yeah they say your brain doesn't know you're thinking about something your brain actually doesn't know if it's real or not so yeah yeah so if you're pitching yourself being there in that moment and then when that day does come you don't you're not overruled by you're like i've been here before i know what to do um yeah it's interesting you know like it's crazy when you think about it he was yeah he was massively into that space and i think that's where you know i grew a bit of a love for it and didn't understand how powerful it was until you really put all your eggs in in that basket because like you said you've got to believe what you're doing mate you've said you're passionate about this we can obviously pick up on that after study area is there something that you want to get into is have you thought about sort of sides in this space that you want to do yeah there is like and i'm sort of as i'm learning i'm sort of more ideas are going through my mind i'd love to basically i know i want to help people get better so in my mind i'm like well how can i help share the knowledge that i've learned and have an impact on people around me and that might not be directly that might be creating a course or running a program that people can subscribe to and they learn basically basic tips about well-being high performance all these sort of different type of things um i don't really know where it's going to get so it's a really early days but i know it'll be somewhere in that space i really enjoy the leadership and culture space as well and sort of helping people grow um grow as a groove and grow the connection and um that's why i just get the best out of himself so yeah i i've got i've got a lot of ideas written down that i'm sort of working working towards behind the scenes and um yeah hopefully next year or two something something eventually watch this space i'm very excited for that um moving past this earlier you touched on mentors um i know you've had some some rippers as you said jammo michael jameson chris jard mark murphy to name a few what are the things that you've picked up from these guys because i think they're obviously incredible work ethic you know talented but these guys have got you know they've got great they've got everything what are the main things they've tried to pass on to you think yeah i think the mentors like every single person you take bits and pieces from a different way and um like i've had so many people influenced me throughout my life um i jammed when i first got to the club he was one that really took me in an um an in off-field point of view he really helped me like i used to hate public speaking like i was shocking mate like if you hear me heard me talk i was like a two-stroke motor with a joke i could not get a word out so he actually helped me in that sort of space he used to sit down do like mock interviews with me um yeah just like i suppose he's helped me adjust to life from you know being just a general country kid coming to melbourne to you get a kick and you're sucking recognizing something i've really struggled with at the start so he helped me with that and he's still someone i'm talk to all the time now he's a legend um as you'd know they got something like judy who's like um you know i just idolized him growing up as a as a massive eagles fan like they were just the kings of the afl but kings of wa um and he gave me about 20 minutes the first day we got there i remember sitting down in the locker room gave me 20 minutes and i was just like how good is this like i was star struck but he's someone he just from a footy point of view he helped me with my standards and um i suppose set little goals to me and we used to catch up i suppose once a month for brekkie and he just checking how i'm going used to touch with him and then you just observe what he does like his habits and how discipline he was um it and then to someone like murph um i've had so much appreciation for for mirth and and what he went through in his time as captain and just like his loyalty like i think um like he's first and foremost he's an absolute superstar player and like he used to look at his his years um when before i got there um how good like he was he was the number one player in the comp there for a long time and even when i was there like he's someone i love playing with because we really complimented each other playing in the midfield because he could run he was skillful um but even like his leadership lock he just ability to stay positive have uh be grateful for opportunity but just just keep sticking it out and he i've bounced a lot of ideas off him and he just the stuff he says just has has a weight to it yeah then there's obviously i feel like is um like matt bain my manager like he's um yeah i suppose i didn't have i didn't realize how good managers could be but he's been a massive mentor for me and just i feel like i'm really good mates him now and i'm sure he's your manager as well and um look he just put in front of the right people he's someone that like we have a good luck sort of mate working relationship so we know when it's time that farmers know when it's time to um have serious chats and he's someone that gives me honest feedback which i really appreciate and that's on and off the field like um he'll say mate yeah you need to improve this area or you're doing this really well and here's someone i really value um then obviously your family your parents um and and and my partner mine like that's the support network and um you don't realize how much they shape you until you reflect and yeah yeah you know you start understanding what you like in life then you understand the upbringing you have and and the people you're around and how they influence your life so um yeah they've all had a massive impact on me and um i bet there's heaps of others um but yeah you just you pick pace pieces from different people and um yeah they just help you with their with their knowledge man 100 um back to what you're saying about the standards with judy now because i know that he's were very high of what he did you know his pilates his diet all these things but i know yours are just as as high talk us through some of your diet changes you've had um you know how what are you what you're eating like these days everything you put in your body you know you're working out what it is what's good for you what it's doing what are some of those other little nuances that you really break down and really go hard at yeah i was um i probably rolled into club as you could could confirm back i was a bit around around the gills um but uh yeah look it's a good learning curve like my first year i floated um floated in footy and probably in the pool as well i was stuffed i didn't want to i didn't want to bring it up you're gonna go there with me yeah okay you were thick yeah it was good country boy you know just you just get where you get where you get your country um now i was look it was a really good lesson like my first year i floated um i wasn't i was just probably in awe in the whole system like you dream of it and then you get in there you're like [ __ ] how good is this anyway first year i had an already bit i broke my leg um and i remember had a dexa skin in the air and i was high um and i was like you know what what am i doing like i gotta actually make some changes i remember chatting andrew walker because he was like one of the most salinas blokes so he taught me he's died and what he did in the off season and i went away that first year and um and just went probably to probably the extreme but i'm glad i went to the extreme like i hardly had a carb for i know 10 weeks um got a sprint's coach and i went from i think i lost six kilos of fat in 10 weeks um and put on like two kilos of muscle so my body whole body just changed and it set my whole whole year up but it showed me the importance of like your body is your biggest tool and you look after and rob wiley actually gave me an analogy um big robbie's he's a legend as you'd know and um still talk to him quite a bit but um he was talking about a racehorse um and they're six to 600 to 900 kilos and they get um weighted with jock he's like could be a kilo difference and that could decide the winner over at three three thousand two hundred so the melbourne cup he goes well you're a 70 to 110 kilo athlete depends on your size as a player if you're carrying extra one kilo and you're running 12 to 15 k's how much is that going to impact yeah and that really just stuck in my brain like i was never forgetting him saying that so from that i'm just yeah i just i'm i know with my body shape like i'll put on weight quick muscle fat so i've got to be really smart about what what weight i want to be at and um what i eat so i've got the luxury that if i go to the gym i'll put muscle and quick but the side effect that if i ate too much also blow up as well so it's just part of that balance and it's just something you always you keep changing and you find that works fair like even last year with my body i tried to drop a bit of weight with a muscle to try and run better and i felt like i didn't help me as much as i thought it would um so this year i've gone back to you know trying to be strong and really big in the contest and before my way back on so you're always trying to find ways to get better and i think that's the beauty of lock everything you're always trying to find little ways to get better and um i think if you look at judy like he always tried to find ways to get better um but i liked him he did like he needed avocado or something for uh so you listen to things like that and there's a reason why he's so good he's because he's always trying to find ways to get better and um yeah so they're little things i look at and um yeah it's a big one i think it's it's a lesson that i've learned um a lot in footy and i didn't learn it at the time but i've taken it into life now is you can be told so many things um that are good for you but you've got to work out what's best for yourself you said then about the weight situation you know you dropped a bit of weight last year you thought you'd be able to run better but realistically your game is being strong someone who sticks out in this space for me is kate simpson for example we always weighed the same amount of weight i was always focused on putting on muscles i i'll get bigger i got to get bigger simo i'll just stay the same size he knew what was good for him and it took me to like my last year and footy to realize mate like you've been this size your whole life you don't need to get bigger like you just need to get strong and be you know focus on what you're good at but it really does take people that long to realize what they need to do and that's not just in footy that's in you know in work in in life and everything how much have you learned that now thinking like yes i can be told a million things but i need to work out what i will take on board and other things i'll let funnel yeah i think that's the biggest thing and um like it doesn't mean you that's why you got to try try things yeah i mean like never be afraid to try something new um and then once you do it just reflect you know i mean like all right did that work for me if it did why um then i'll keep doing it it didn't then say look it's good i tried it but it didn't work and don't be flat that it didn't work like people asked me how you fight about last year's like no because i didn't go there how do i how know you could get so um yeah you always got to try five ways um but that's a big one i think you gotta you gotta know yourself that's like that's that's the key like you gotta know what works for you um get information i'll give this a try and that didn't work for me now i'll move on and keep going forward in the way i think yeah i can best perform love it man i'm excited for for your season this year to see what what comes of that um adversity something that you face a lot of throughout the career i suppose being up and down in terms of you know being captain at such a young age um team that's not performing but still performing yourself up and down a lot of people from the public would look at you and think [ __ ] this has been an easy ride you know and this guy's come in and um you know been a high pick made captain the club um you know one bnfs all these sort of things how hard is it to deal with that each week because i think even looking back and giving more context you know you had this career that from the outside it seemed like it just been coming up the whole way no one had sort of seen the work that had gone into it and then i think in that uh 29 season you were saying i think there was a bit of a you're injured and there's a bit of form and then quickly people are to jump on being like oh no what's going on with this boat now why isn't he performing how have you sort of dealt with that adversity yeah it's a it's a good point um i like this there's always gonna be challenges thrown at you and um i think uh the first bits just like i'm getting used to so he's been in the public eye i found that really tough to start but um that's where the beauty that you chat to people and um just people there to help and then yeah it's been like it has been tough and um i'm a big believer that like um adversity build your character you know i mean like the things that you go through and they're really challenging once you come out of them like it really builds resilience in your character um and yeah like i've been through since certain things and um like mine on a live skype with other people's is minor you know what i mean like this is all footy stuff like injuries like i've broken my leg three times um probably because i don't have a calf muscle um like losing like a lot when we're in a winning business and um yeah you try and do everything right to to get a club going forward um then when you form that last year my form wasn't the best that i wanted but um one thing like yeah like i said before you reflect you learn and you grow and even last year like i didn't know my best year but i hang my hat on that i'd crack every week and um that's all you can ask for and that i go to sleep at night after a game that um you know i gave him my best effort um i always give my best effort once the game finishes you obviously sometimes gonna be frustrated the way you play but you move on and that's the identity thing i said um what i really learned from that ben crow thing is me as a person is so different to me as a footballer so once i know that i've leave the field and i've given them all that's me as a footballer done that it's not going to change me as a person and that's really helped me to really just keep balancing my life and stick through to who i am and it also allows me to when i do go on the field i can play the aggression and that and play on the edge and um play my way knowing that's not actually me as a person that sort of makes sense yeah separating the person from the persona yeah exactly how old were you when you became captain uh i think i was 23. uh was it 20 yeah i think i was 23 turning 24. yeah it's pretty young what have you learned from leadership when you first became captain to now what have been the biggest changes yeah there's been a lot um i think same thing learned a lot more about myself i think when you come to a young age the hardest thing is setting the standard um but still i suppose you still want to be close to the group you know what i mean like you don't want to turn into this policeman like person say what are you doing going out in the piss you know what i mean like like what's he saying that's you don't never want that like when you're a player you don't want to someone looking over your shoulder saying what are you doing like you want to set the standard and there's going to be times when people mess up and you've got to square them up saying that's not that's not helping us or you um but i think that the biggest thing is building relationships having sort of care and empathy for people like um and sort of knowing that everyone's a bit different you know i mean like not everyone's gonna be like me and um what i do is not what other people do so you can't get frustrated you see other people doing you try and help them as much as possible um but you also get appreciation for who the who they are um and then like just working with doc like we i think we've both grown um leadership group we've got at the moment so a really good group i'm really enjoying it like we've got a mix between young and old and me and doctor in the middle um all very different um and i'm actually loving it at the moment like it's actually it's very good fun leadership meetings um but i think that having care and empathy for people and um knowing that you know you've got their back and no matter what they're going through um that um you're there for him last point on this i suppose and there's there's no hiding this fact but you're obviously one of the biggest players in melbourne um it's not part of your nature to be you know like on social media you're not like a loud person how have you dealt with that because you're a big boy too you're growing every year um big foreigner it's hard to miss you out in social circles that that must weigh on you a bit you've seen like how many players these days are moving interstate a lot of players gone to sydney um to get away from it like how how do you deal with that does it play in your mind is it is it annoying is it hard oh i like it it has this challenge it's not gonna lie um i i struggle like i've said it before i struggled a lot with it early in my career just because i wasn't like i'm still it's 1920. i just felt like as a normal 18 year old but people external put you up on this pedestal and i'm just like that's just not me you know i mean i don't want to be asked when i go why i go to the park and never be with the boys i just want to have a beer and talk to them um so took me a while to get used to it but i'll use another thing so judy once said to me he goes look because i asked him about i had to deal with it like you're in perth that's like a fishbowl and you're like the biggest dog in the nfl um like i'm nowhere near your level but like how'd you deal with it and he's just like well the way i looked at it he's like can we not as good as i am yep and just play any any league i want um and just blend in or i can love what i do be the best i can and with that comes the recognition and i just got to learn to deal with it and i was like yeah that's a pretty good point yeah makes sense so from that i sort of i changed my mindset around and said you know what um take it as a it's a blessing yeah like instead of um neglecting and not wanting it to say look it's going to come try and treat people with as much respect you can and at the same time learn the places you can go to have a really good mates around you um and never get caught up in the in the hype of the external of external stuff like people putting you up back to identity thing all they say is this footy player i put you up but i and the day i'm just paddy crips who grew up in northampton from a country town i love my mates love my family um and enjoy having to be with them and um yeah i just don't see myself as any different to that and that's sort of helped me really i suppose stay true to who i am and stay level-headed um and that's even like even around the club now i've got so many good people that i just love mixing with and hanging out with and um yeah you can just be yourself around which i love before we go i've got a couple tidbits for you um i really like that word on to use it big brooks a big pre-season that's just happened i needed it for round one um and who's gonna win i had about us and uh you win the tigers it's actually the funniest thing that's quite funny yeah no it wasn't at the time around i just hope there's crowds here mate yeah i want as many people there cheering that's someone missed but now we'll back ourselves in obviously got a lot of respect for him for richmond what they've done but yeah well whoever read out crackers for sure just on this as well and i this wasn't actually brought up but you see the game trends going right at the moment okay and i love this space now because you looked at hawthorne it was like a kicking game collingwood was that be under game richmond's comfort pressure game and clark i was in a couple weeks ago and spoke about you know when you want to be good you've got to actually not try and do what the best teams are doing you've got to actually make up the next thing where do you think the game's going next like what's going to be the next game style that takes off do you think well hopefully ours yeah without giving away too much what like i feel i don't know if you can answer this but i feel it's going to be a bit more of a kicking game because if there's so much pressure you want to then go back to taking the ball off people but you would know a lot more about yeah um look you never know i i think what the afl we're trying to do is increase scoring so i think the game's gonna get a lot quicker things will be better to watch um i know we're gonna play a really attacking brand with the players we've got in and the talent we have so um yeah i think i i hope i want to see as a fan like take myself out away from the play i want to see more scoring and and um just more excitement but i think the game's gonna gonna really speed up um and be good to watch so in terms of the game style i think there's gonna be i don't think there's gonna be a certain way that's gonna just quick yeah i think it's gonna i think it's gonna be a balance but i sort of love like when you you play like from watching because i haven't played any finals i just love when finals in the day gets back to you know one-on-ones with your contest um so like i think when we get one-on-ones inside 450 with the guys we got again down there going really important but just i just love the contest and that's why i love watching finals footy and that's why i want to play it so bad is just in the contest and um yeah you just love seeing people stand up in big moments 100 i've even thought about this as well but the fact of that rule change with a man on the mark now how much is that going to change that inside 45 kick like you've got blokes like zach williams sad being able to just rip them through the corridor um for people we don't know obviously you could move along the mark you used to be able to actually sit in the 45 it's going to be nearly undefendable yeah i think you've got to give something up like uh yeah we i'm interested to see what it's like i think it's going to quicken the game up a lot um because you know someone wrapped around the back for him or received um sometimes just hand over and you just go on the mark and that guy takes him you're not allowed to do it anymore so what you have to say on the mark yeah so once i say well i'll go say you're taking the mark i come up to you and as i am says stan and i can't move until he calls play on yeah so like guys that are quick and like lots of guys like merv fish sad williams um even welsh the guys that are real dynamic and just creative and just make it up i reckon it's gonna be exciting to watch players like that definitely think so watch your space um yeah i think we learned early days that side stepping is not one of your best assets i go straight through them okay good list management this year obviously sard all these guys came in how much impact do you have in that play now i think obviously that's their role but do they consult you about these things like do you have a say and say yeah i want this guy or now i'd rather pass i suppose they come to you about the same thing you're back they mean like they're they're the expert in their field so you back them in um to do what they do it doesn't mean you don't throw ideas at them um because you always want to get better um but then when she once they say oh we're interested in this player they say can you chat to him like i'd 100 percent chat yeah this is in the dance right you know okay guys how do you go about it you get their number you call them what you're sliding or just snap them yeah it's a selfie snap yeah i've been getting these real weird snapchats from paddy crooks and it's [ __ ] weird you just keep saying come to the bag yeah it's true story that's our starting okay yeah there you go everyone's not into the snapchats um okay two bits here who's the most difficult opponent you've ever had um i think like the tag the the tag is that like maddie boy's really good just discipline um but like i love that because it's like just a one-on-one yeah it's all right it's me versus him and then it's a good way to reflect on your game and like review it because he's gonna make you better because like he's he got me in 2019 and it's like all right how do i then change my game next time i play him so i can be better and i might not necessarily get as much as the ball as i would in other games because he's that discipline but how can i maneuver things around a stoppage take him to another person to make us then get him to get the leg up and win the clearance which i felt like last year when we played him i didn't have my best game but i felt like around stoppages were able to do that which was good um ben jake was another one i had him in 2019 down at um hobart he's really disciplined be like the matt dubourmold um yeah he was he was good a player i really love playing against his jack steele um he's really good at he just got he's just a good honest player um also does his own thing and he gets the ball out of man so i got a lot of respect for his game um yeah is that even worse so when you're playing a guy's tagging yeah and then they're running and getting their own kicks because you can you know if someone's staying with you the whole time they're not really doing much it's okay but if someone's playing on you and then obviously going kicking goals getting stats too you're like [ __ ] i've got to tighten up here as well yeah like as a tag you always want to make the player account or the same thing when you're getting tagged you like you he rolls to beat him so yeah i think everywhere you try and have a player you try and match up on debate him and that's a lot of the battle within the battle i enjoy that all right speaking of that who's your bunny no no i'm not dead don't go down this far no you've got to give us one maybe even yo who's your bunny at training then in the club who do you love just come and do your stuff as you're training edcarno yeah now i didn't do that to storyboard okay fantastic you're too modest to say that um last not least have you had any good coach plays in your career um how does teague go does he rip anything yeah i've had it i've had a few off of t we actually got a ripper in the last round against brisbane last year the midfield group um yeah uh i think he had to sanitize the face all the midfields after that nice t has given a few bolts to give me everyone you always get a spray here and there's part and parcel of the gear what are they for just not defensive running oh no never that two-way runner um i remember actually in my first year i was late to a meeting um and rob wiley gave me a good spray i was stuck at a tram uh not a tram a train line in essendon do you know why i think it's is it puckles right yeah yeah yeah yeah i stuck here like 10 minutes like trying out a train yeah i rocked up two minutes late walked into the theater anyway i thought i was like off the hook meeting ended rob's like everyone sit down and then he just sprayed me i'll never ever be late after that again i but yeah that's that's probably that's probably the biggest frame i've gotta reckon we like it there's nothing worse than being late mate to finish up um two-part question how important is the goal of winning a flag for you and then i suppose insane as well what's next oh look i i want to win one like i want to play finals but we want to win without a doubt and uh yeah i think we're starting to get a real good list profile that we can really attack that um but also like the like you said before the process of building there from the ground up to that is enjoyable like i really enjoy like day to day going with club trying to get better so i want to get there but i'm not losing sight of the fact that there's a lot of hard work to get there and have fun getting there as well that sort of makes sense what's next um oh mate i'll just yeah just things that we've been talking about like just um really excited this season buzzing really excited to lead this group with doc and try and achieve as much as we can um this year and beyond and um yeah just keep growing off field and um yeah to come this podcast a few times with dylan friends you know number one in the nation that's about it yeah lost law school at the moment so um yeah fantastic mate um it's been absolutely pleasure having the show second time can't thank you enough i'm super excited for a big year for yourself mate um it's an honor to have you on as i said and i think just today just sums up my as you as a person i just said setting that persona away from the person um as good as you are as a player and better bloke um should be extremely proud of what you've been able to achieve thus far and i'm very excited for what's next so i'm just honored to call your friend and thanks again for your time thanks for having me back on um yeah i know it's from afar saying what you're doing as well is inspiring so keep keep it up big fella um and to finish mate it's been real it's been good this hasn't been real how's that eye still using it i like it this episode of the dylan friends podcast is brought to you by dr v energy alrighty my friends i want to let you in on a little secret that's been keeping my body feeling bloody fantastic throughout the week it's dr v energy drinks after a big gym session or after i let my hair down on the weekend with a few friends having a couple of core deals i drink dr v energy bendamenda to help me recover bounce back and get back to performing at my best i'm telling you now there is no artificial ingredients inside it's 100 natural and made with wild herbs and berries that have been used for centuries to heal and protect the liver and kidneys the ingredients are even 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