♪. >> THOSE WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED ARE CAUSING HOSPITALS TO EVERYRUN, BECOME OVERRUN AGAIN. I JUST SPEAKS TO THE GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK. EVERY COVID-19 HOSPITAL MEANS SOMEONE WITH A HEART ATTACK, CANCER, OTHER SERIOUS ILLNESS MAY NOT GET THAT BED AND THAT LIFE-SAVING CARE THEY NEED IN THE HOSPITAL. >> WE'RE DOING VERY, VERY WELL. VERY MANAGEABLE. NO CRISIS. LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ABOUT 460 PATIENTS IN OUR HOSPITALS. THAT IS LESS THAN 10% OF OUR OVERALL CAPACITY. LARRY: YEAH, GEE WHIZ, WHY CAN'T BIDEN TELL THE TRUTH. GREAT FRIEND, DR. BEN CARSON, FORMER DIRECTOR OF JOHNS HOPKINS PEDIATRIC NEUROSURGERY. BEN, FIRST OF ALL, GOOD TO SEE YOU. MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND CANDY. BEN, WHY, THAT IS THE GUY THAT RUNS ONE OF THE BIG UP STATE MEDICAL CONGLOMERATES HERE IN NEW YORK. HE SAYS, I DON'T KNOW, LESS THAN 10% OF THE BEDS ARE BEING USED AND BIDEN IS TRYING TO TELL US THAT THERE IS A MAJOR CRISIS IN OUR HOSPITALS. WHY CAN'T BIDEN JUST, FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE TELL THE TRUTH? >> WELL, FOR ONE THING, YOU KNOW, HOSPITALS, MOST HOSPITALS CERTAINLY, ONES I WORKED AT, ARE ALWAYS NEAR CAPACITY AT ANY POINT IN TIME. SO WHEN EVER YOU HAVE A SLIGHT UPTICK, YOU KNOW, WE START LOOKING FOR BEDS, OR YOU START TRANSFERRING PATIENTS. THAT WENT ON THROUGH MY WHOLE PROFESSIONAL CAREER. SO THAT IS NOT ANYTHING NEW AND DIFFERENT BUT, WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE NEW OMICRON VARIANT IS IT IS VERY, VERY TRANSMISSIBLE. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET IT, MUCH MORE SO THAN WITH THE OTHER VARIANTS THAT WE'VE SEEN BUT THEY'RE NOT VERY SICK. VERY FEW OF THEM HAVE TO BE HOSPITALIZED. THE MORTALITY RATE IS APPROACHING ZERO. PLUS WE HAVE THERAPEUTICS NOW. WE KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT HOW TO TREAT IT. SO TO CONTINUE TO FRIGHTEN PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM THINK THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING PROGRESS IS REALLY THE WRONG TACK TO TAKE. I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD BE REALLY CONCENTRATING ON IS ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE LEARNED, THE THERAPEUTICS, YOU KNOW, THE PFIZER, AND THE MERCK THERAPEUTICS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN ANNOUNCED BUT HAVE NOT BEEN OKAYED BY THE FDA YET. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LIGHT A FIRE UNDER THEM. AND WE NEED TO REALLY GET THOSE THINGS OUT TO PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE THEM. MAYBE THAT IS BETTER USE THAN SOME OF THE TESTING. IF THE TESTING SHOWS YOU HAVE IT, START THE TREATMENT. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT AND IF WE TRY TO LOCK DOWN EVERYBODY WHO HAS IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REAL PROBLEM. LARRY: BEN, WHY IS THE FDA SO TARDY IN GETTING PFIZER AND MERCK OUT THERE? I MEAN THE PILLS ARE BEING, EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WORK. EVERYBODY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DARE SAY TRUMP WOULD HAVE JUST KNOCKED HEADS, YOU COULD CALL IT DEREGULATION AND GET THEM TO MOVE. GOING TO NEED A LOT OF THAT STUFF. APPARENTLY IT IS REAL GOOD AND REAL EASY. WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR? >> I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I WAS ON THE TASK FORCE AND THERE WAS A REAL SENSE OF URGENCY AND I DON'T SENSE THAT URGENCY HERE AND PERHAPS IT IS BECAUSE KNOW DEEP IN THEIR HEART THAT IT'S NOT AS BIG OF A PROBLEM NOW. IT IS NOT NEARLY AS, AS VIRULENT AND POWERFUL AND LIKELY TO CAUSE YOU DEATH, PLUS WE KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT IT AND HOW TO TREAT IT. SO, I WISH THEY WOULD LEVEL WITH PEOPLE. LARRY: YES. >> IF YOU WOULD JUST TELL PEOPLE WHAT THE FACTS ARE. LET'S TALK ABOUT NATURAL IMMUNITY. TALK ABOUT WHAT THE STUDIES WITH NATURAL IMMUNITY HAVE SHOWN. LET'S NOT JUST IGNORE IT, TO SAY IT DOESN'T EXIST WHEN IT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE, WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT IT SINCE THE CIVIL WAR AND SMALLPOX. LARRY: THE BIDEN TEAM, THEY LOVE TO ATTACK PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T VACCINATED. NOW I'M FOR THE VACCINATION. I HAVE HAD TWO VAXES, THE BOOST, SO FOURTH, SO ON. A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T GET VACCINE HAVE NATURAL IMMUNITY AND HAD COVID FROM IT AND RECOVERED FROM IT. >> EXACTLY. PEOPLE ON THE MEDICAL FIELD ON THE FRONT LINES ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS. WERE HEROES MONTHS AGO AND NOW THEY ARE GOATS. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? IS THIS AMERICA, WHERE YOU HAVE FREEDOM OF CHOICE, OR SIT HERE LIKE SHEEP TO BE ALLOWED TO TAKEN A WAY FROM US. THAT IS BIG QUESTION GOING ON RIGHT NOW. LARRY: BEN, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M PREPARED FOR THAT QUESTION. I WOULD JUST TELL YOU THIS EVENING, SAVE AMERICA, KILL THE BILL. THAT IS WHERE I'M STARTING FROM AND PRESERVE OUR FREEDOM. >> AND SAVE OUR CHILDREN. SAVE OUR CHILDREN. LARRY: THAT'S FAIR. HELP THE DEPLORABLES. BEN CARSON, BEST OF THE BEST, AGAIN MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR. ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, CAN, I WANT TO GET HIS BOOK OUT. BEN CARSON'S LATEST BOOK, "WHY