You all have married,
you've been together
for three years, but you're living
in separate homes. Miss Thomas, why have you
opened your case today? I'm just here, basically,
to prove that my husband's
a cheater, always been a cheater.
I love him for
the life of me but this endlessness
has got to stop. He is a cheater. JUDGE DANA: Okay, so,
you're saying, you know he's a cheater,
he's always been a cheater? TACARA: Yes, Your Honor. Okay, Mr. Thomas, have you
always been a cheater? No, ma'am, I have not.
The only way she's
thinking this is because when me and her
first got together, is because of the fact
I had another woman
living with me, and I was getting ready
to get her out of my house. Because she claimed that
she was pregnant from me
and she wasn't. TACARA: So, I don't get calls
from lots of women, all times of the night,
I'm just losing
my mind, I guess. JUDGE KEITH: But you all
are married. TACARA: Yes EDWARD: Yes, sir. JUDGE KEITH: But you're living
in separate homes? TACARA: Separately, yes. EDWARD: Yes, sir. JUDGE KEITH: All because
you think he's cheating? TACARA: All because
I know he's cheating.
Texts from other women, calls from other women,
pictures from other women. Now, you know that's a lie. If all of this is happening,
popping off,
why are you with him? Honestly, Your Honor,
he is a great provider, he is a great father. He is there when
the kids go to sleep, there when they wake up,
like, he is an awesome person. Like, we're always on
the same page when
we're together, he'll make sure we connect,
when I need something. JUDGE DANA: So, when
it's good, it's good. When it's good, it's great. It sounds like she's talking
about two different people. On the one hand... Yeah, I was like... Okay. Is this the same person? (ALL LAUGHING) Now, Mr. Thomas, we know
what she likes about you. What do you like about her? Well, Your Honor, I love her
to death. I'd do
anything for that lady. I mean, honestly,
she takes care of
my other half of the kids. I have five kids with
another woman. JUDGE DANA: Wow. EDWARD: She makes sure
she takes care of
all 11 kids. My kids love her to death. JUDGE DANA: Wow! And this is why this ring
is off right now. Until the truth is done
and everything is out, I'm not putting
it back on. See? Done. JUDGE DANA: So, you've
taken your ring off. Off. I'm more than willing
to do anything I got to do to make sure that we come back
into the same home again. Because it's ten in
the household now. It's messing with
the kids, bad. Because they're
getting rebellious. They're doing all kinds
of other little stuff. So, Thomas, I see
tears in your eyes. I mean, it's a lot
that's going on.
Like, literally. JUDGE DANA: So, you are here
fighting to keep
your family together? Yes, ma'am. JUDGE DANA: All right.
Now, you put
out there in the world that he is a cheater,
always been a cheater. What proof do you have
this man who's standing here with tears in his eyes,
is a cheater? Well, for one example,
Your Honor, I'm getting mysterious
phone calls in the night. A girl called me one day,
and she was like,
"Listen, I was with your man. "The night that
he leaves me, calls,
saying he's with his boys, "we're really having oral."
I'm, like, I'm confused. JUDGE DANA: Okay, wait.
Hold up. A babe calls you up. TACARA: Right. And says, when your husband
is out with the boys or out, at least once a week,
he is coming, having
oral sex with her? Right. Absolutely. (AUDIENCE GASPS) JUDGE KEITH: And she just
called you out of the blue? JUDGE DANA: And what
do you do with that? What do I do? I wake him up
and have a conversation. "Umm, get up." He leaves there
at 10:30 at night. (AUDIENCE GASPING) So, you wake him up
to have this conversation,
and his response is to leave? The reason why
I got up and left... JUDGE KEITH: Tell me. I know who the person is. It's my ex-girlfriend. She is just jealous.
She is jealous of Tacara. Because every time
Tacara says, "I want this,"
I make sure she have. So, this ex-girlfriend
has it out for
your relationship. EDWARD: She got
a vendetta against her. JUDGE KEITH: She's trying
to jeopardize your marriage? EDWARD: Literally. JUDGE DANA: So,
she made up this whole story about
you having oral sex. You are not having oral sex
is what you're testifying? I don't mess with her.
I don't mess with
that girl, period. JUDGE DANA: Do you
mess with any woman? No, ma'am. JUDGE DANA: So, you're saying
this is all made up, she is just being
a first class hater. That's it. Basically. JUDGE DANA: All right. All right, I don't know.
What else you got? TACARA: Well,
Your Honor, for two,
we were both going to work, and when I get to work,
I get a mysterious phone call. Well, a text,
'cause I'm at work. I check my phone,
I see a picture, and a message saying,
"I'm with our man." (AUDIENCE GASPING) I'm like, "Our man?" I have the evidence
to prove, pictures. JUDGE DANA: Okay. JUDGE KEITH: You've got
the picture? I do. The picture that
she got that's... JUDGE KEITH: Ron, would you
grab that for us, please? RON: Yes, Your Honor. That's an old picture.
That's from the same... Hold on, we'll give you
a chance, Mr. Thomas. TACARA: I have the pictures
to prove... JUDGE KEITH: She texted you
while you were at work? TACARA: Right. JUDGE KEITH: And says,
"I'm with your man." "Your man/our man." JUDGE KEITH: Our man. JUDGE DANA: Oh,
well, well, well. JUDGE KEITH:<i> And then she
sends you this picture?</i> TACARA:<i> Mmm-hmm.</i> JUDGE DANA: And this looks like
a current picture? Absolutely.
And pictures don't lie. JUDGE DANA: Yeah. I say pictures don't lie. I don't know about y'all,
but I do say
pictures don't lie. JUDGE DANA: Pictures are
strong evidence of
something happening. TACARA: Pictures don't lie.
I don't care what you say. JUDGE KEITH: So, Mr. Thomas... Pictures don't lie. That's my ex-girlfriend, sir. JUDGE KEITH: The same one? The same one that be
driving her crazy,
driving her up the wall. JUDGE DANA: Okay,
wait a minute. The woman in this picture
is the same woman who called and said
you're having oral sex? Once a week. Once a week. She's also the same one
that is inboxing her
on social media. Yes, ma'am. JUDGE DANA: And now
she's texting pictures
of you and her. EDWARD: That picture is old. JUDGE KEITH: So, how old
are you saying this picture is? That picture is at least
about a year old. (AUDIENCE GASPING) JUDGE DANA: But you've been
with your wife
since February of 2015. Miss, this is how it's
been with me. Every time that girl
kissed me somewhere, she'd try to take a picture
or something and make it
look like we were together. JUDGE DANA: Okay, no.
No, no, no. JUDGE KEITH: You've been
in contact with her. JUDGE DANA: Look at
this picture. You're all snuggled
up to her and smiling. Miss, that is an old picture. TACARA: Right. JUDGE KEITH: You said it's
a year old, and you've been
with Miss Thomas, you've been
together for three years, and this is a year old,
so this is
since you've been with her, and this is not some picture
that was taken from a far off. Or like a real quick. You all are
hugged up together. JUDGE DANA: And
you're smiling about it. JUDGE KEITH: Yeah. Your Honor, it wasn't nothing. It was nothing. JUDGE DANA: Okay. It was something because
it's photographic
evidence of it. I'm looking at something. Listen, Your Honor,
this don't make no sense to me. JUDGE DANA AND JUDGE KEITH:
It doesn't make
any sense to us, either. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) So, we're all on
the same page with that. I love her to death.
I'd do anything for that lady. That's just one of the stories,
'cause his boss,
they come pick him up for work, he came to pick him up,
I guess Edward forgot that he told him to come
pick him up from my house, and when he came
to pick him up,
guess who wasn't there? (AUDIENCE GASPING) So, he proceeds
to call Edward on his phone, and I hear him say, "Okay,
I'll meet you up here on "Indian Hill Road
and Pine Hills Road."
So, I'm, like, "Oh, let me grab these car keys
and make it up here," 'cause I want to see
where he's meeting him at. So, as soon as I see
the work truck pull off, I pulled behind him
and followed him. I followed three cars, likely, so he can make sure
that I'm not behind him. 'Cause that's what a pro does. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) TACARA: To make sure
I'm not behind him. So, I blocked the truck in,
I jump out... JUDGE DANA: You blocked
the truck in? I do. I parked right
behind him, so
they can't pull out. (LAUGHING) She's good. I'm like, you got
a second career working here,
go ahead. I do. So, I say,
I'm like, "What's up? "I thought you were
already at work, sir?" He's like, "Cara, listen,
I was just grabbing..." "You could've grabbed
a burger at home. "We've got a house
full of groceries.
Why you eatin' up here?" And I see this girl looking
out the window, and
she's smiling. JUDGE DANA: Oh, wait a minute.
So, you... So, there's a woman looking,
where is she? TACARA: She is in
the restaurant. She's sitting at the table,
looking out the window,
she's just smiling. I'm like... "This is the same broad
that told me "that she was with you,
this is the same broad
from the picture. "So, you've got
some explaining
to do, homeboy, "cause I am weary
and I am changing locks, "I just want you to know,
so, by the time
you get home, "that won't work." Like, you need to explain. JUDGE DANA: You're
at a restaurant
with the same woman you're not friends with? EDWARD: I don't know
what she seen, but when she pulled up
at that restaurant, I was coming out the door
with my plate. I had
ordered my food that morning for breakfast. There was four other women
standing at that store. JUDGE DANA: And you didn't
happen to see that one of them four was the lady
that's been in contact? EDWARD: I didn't mess
with nobody. I really didn't. I didn't mess with nobody.
She came up with
the truck tripping. JUDGE DANA: I didn't ask you
if you messed with 'em, I just said, did you see?
Did you see
your ex-girlfriend? I wasn't paying
no attention to them. I just wanted to get
my food and leave. JUDGE KEITH: Take it back
a couple of steps. Why did your ex boss show up
to pick you up for work,
and you're not there? I had forgot I had told him
to come pick me up
from the house. I just walked in front
of the house, up the street
to the restaurant. It was right up
the street from my house. So, was your ex,
the same ex
you've been talking about, in the restaurant at
the same time you were? She could've been in there
but I wasn't
paying no attention. I mean, I was hungry. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) JUDGE KEITH: So, you're saying,
if she was there, you didn't
know she was there? EDWARD: If she was in there... I don't know if he was hungry
or thirsty. I don't know
what he is. Your Honor, I have
a third story which will place
everything into play. When your boss tells me
something, that's
a whole different story. He's like, "Listen,
since you want answers,
I'm gonna tell you what it is. "Your husband was messing
with somebody when
we was in Georgia. "He used to text her and
if you don't believe me,
go through his phone." And I got the texts
to prove it. JUDGE KEITH: So,
his boss tells you that he's been
messing around... His boss tells me about a whole
different incident that I
didn't even know about. But I'm glad you did,
'cause you just signed his
divorce papers, signed, sealed and delivered. JUDGE DANA: All right,
do you have evidence of this? TACARA: Yes. I do. Ron, would you please
get this evidence. RON: Yes, Your Honor. Thank you, ma'am. TACARA: You're welcome. JUDGE DANA: So, his boss
tells you in response, "Get your old man's phone
and look at the girl
he had up in Georgia." TACARA:<i> Mmm. Right.</i> JUDGE DANA: So,
did you do that? I did. JUDGE DANA: And what
did you find? (EXHALES) Pictures, messages, the works. Okay, were you texting
this woman in Georgia? EDWARD: No, ma'am.
I have people that live here. I didn't text nobody, ma'am. (TACARA SIGHS) All right, tell me
what these texts look like. These texts were
a girl laying out with... All you see is a tattoo
on her butt cheeks,
pardon my language, butt, and a message saying
the night was great. So, you tell me
what that means. It means she got
a picture of her... You need to show me
where this message was at
in my phone. TACARA: If I had
the picture still, and I could
recover the pictures. All the pictures I was able
to recover was screenshots
because I lost my phone. Your Honor, I don't
know what... I don't know what
messages she's talking about. JUDGE DANA: Mmm-hmm. I don't do stuff like that. (EXHALES) You not been involved
with anybody since
you been married to Miss Thomas,
is that what you're
telling this court? Yes, sir. TACARA: We'll see. JUDGE DANA: Well, we have
a marriage on the line,
husband. TACARA: We will see. And what the evidence that
we have heard today is, that a women
texted you and said, your husband is meeting
her to have oral sex with her. Absolutely. He just gets up and leaves,
'cause he says he doesn't
want you nagging him. I gotta tell you, if there's
ever anything to nag about,
that would be the one. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Tell me about it. JUDGE DANA: The second
thing is, you get a text
from the same woman. She sends you a picture
of your husband
taking a selfie with her. Mmm-hmm. And then the final thing,
the final thing, is that you wake up
and find his boss there
to pick him up for work. Mmm-hmm. JUDGE DANA: And you're like,
he's not here. Mmm-hmm. They meet at a restaurant.
You, like Dick Tracy,
slow walk that thing down, block him in,
and lo, and behold, sitting in the restaurant
is this same woman. Laughing and grinning
like it's funny. And my understanding is
that if you find out
that your husband is, in fact, cheating, <i> a man you are not even
living with right now</i> <i> because of all of these
allegations of cheating.</i> JUDGE KEITH: Not living
with him, not wearing a ring. JUDGE DANA: Yes. JUDGE KEITH: And they're
living separate lives in separate households. JUDGE DANA: And it's splitting
their family apart.
Their children are suffering. Absolutely. But you are saying, I'm done. I made a wrap. I'm done. JUDGE DANA: But if you find out
he's not cheating, are you willing to reconcile
and move this marriage
forward? I am. I'm willing to work... I'm all hands down.
I'm willing to work it out. I really need to come home. JUDGE DANA: But you
need to know. But I need solid proof. JUDGE DANA: You need to know.
You need to know. So, what we have at risk
is a family, Mr. Cutler. A family and a marriage. This court has done a full
and complete investigation. At this time, the court
would like to call licensed and certified
forensics examiner Terry Fisher to determine
is he cheating. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) JUDGE KEITH: Ron, please escort
Mr. Fisher into the courtroom. Okay. JUDGE KEITH: Mr. Fisher. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) JUDGE DANA: How are you,
Mr. Fisher? I'm good, Your Honor.
Thank you. JUDGE DANA: Good. Could you explain what
you did you investigate
this case? On this particular case,
I did a full forensic analysis
of Mr. Thomas's cell phone. This included
searching his messages,
his messaging apps, as well as looking for
any deleted photos, videos, that maybe relevant
to the case. (AUDIENCE GASPING) JUDGE DANA: Did you uncover
anything in Mr. Thomas's phone? Yes, Your Honor. The first thing I found
was that, two weeks ago,
at 1:17 a.m., Mr. Thomas sent
a text message to a woman. JUDGE KEITH: Where you at
so I can see you? <i> Send me address.</i> (AUDIENCE GASPING) Did this conversation continue? FISHER: Yes, Your Honor. This particular conversation
continues all the way
until 2:18 a.m. in the morning. JUDGE DANA: They're doing this
almost for an hour. FISHER: Yes, Your Honor. TACARA: Hmm. JUDGE KEITH: Did you find
anything else in
Mr. Thomas's phone? FISHER: Yes, Your Honor.
I actually found a photo
of a nude woman. (AUDIENCE GASPING) <i> I was then able to determine,
after thorough examination
of the photo,</i> that the woman in question
was actually Mrs. Thomas. You was finna get the business.
You was finna get it. JUDGE DANA: So, you have sent
photos of yourself, personal in nature,
to your husband. I have. JUDGE DANA: All right, that's
grown folks stuff. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) TACARA: He was finna
get the business. JUDGE DANA: And did you find
anything else other
than that? No, Your Honor. Well, we ordered
a polygraph examination of Mr. Thomas and
we have the result. Ron, would you please
hand those to me? RON: Yes, Your Honor. (JUDGE DANA SIGHS) JUDGE DANA: You know,
Mr. Thomas, you look nervous. EDWARD: I ain't nervous. JUDGE DANA: Your'e looking
down, folding your lips. Is there anything
you want to tell us
before we read these results? No, sir. JUDGE KEITH: You sure? The only thing I want to say
is that I want my wife and
my family back. TACARA: Do you? JUDGE DANA: All right. We'll see. JUDGE KEITH: Mr. Thomas,
you were asked, "Have you had sexual
intercourse with anyone
other than your wife, "since you've been married?" Your response to
that question was no. The lie detector determined that you were being... ...truthful. What? (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) What? Told you, didn't I? I see relief. I see a lot of emotion
on your face. What do you
want to say to your husband? I apologize. Now can I come home? AUDIENCE: Aww! Seriously. JUDGE DANA: He can't make it
more plain than that. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) You can. You can. EDWARD: Thank you.
I'm tired of spending
at my mama's house. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING
AND APPLAUDING) Seriously. TACARA: You can. You can.
I'll give you that. EDWARD: Thank you. TACARA: I'll give you that. JUDGE DANA: Okay, y'all
look like y'all want to go on. Y'all can come over
and see each other. Y'all know each other. TACARA: Thank you. Thank you. Okay.
I'll give you that. Do I got to be a jerk? JUDGE DANA: All right.
I love a happy ending. But a happy ending
isn't the end. TACARA: It's not. All right. So, y'all
are gonna go out of here,
get your family back together, get back in the same
household together, get back into the same
bedroom together,
not to be underrated, and you all are gonna have
to move this ball forward. You both want
to be together, you want to have
your family together, you know he is being truthful,
and more importantly, faithful. Yeah. You'll are engaged,
you've been together
for 20 years and the court files show
you've been engaged
three times, is that correct? Yes that's fake, fake. JUDGE KEITH: Three times! And this is going to be
the last time if you
find out he's cheating? GARRETT:
Absolutely. JUDGE KEITH: All right,
you've brought this case today,
tell me what's at stake here? Well, Your Honors,
um, been with my fiance
for 20 years, we've three beautiful children, we've had three fake proposals and he's cheated on me
three times as far as I know so,
so we're going
to find out today. The ring is gone, just like this relationship's
going to be gone if I find out today
that he has cheated again. (AUDIENCE JEERING) JUDGE DANA: So you're out. You see the look on her face? I do. She ain't playing. She is serious. I mean I've seen... Yeah. And she's already
thrown away the ring. JUDGE DANA:
All right Mr. McNeal, How are you, sir? MCNEAL: Fine Tell me why you are here? I'm here to prove to my wife that I love her and my kids, and I'm not cheater. And I do have
a lot of besties that like to... (CROWD LAUGHING) JUDGE DANA:
All right, I'm getting a
comment form a... Yes. I'm not his wife.
We're not married. You're saying your fiance? Yes. And you're saying
you've a lot of besties. Yes. Okay, besties there... I saw
there in your court files.
Everybody's your bestie. Yes. All right, all right, okay. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) You said there was
cheating in the past
at least three times. Tell me what happened. Okay, in the past
well he has a child that is the same
age as my other one. I asked him about it
'cause I got a notice that
she was having a child, I asked him
did you cheat on me? Do you have a girl pregnant? "No, she just, you know,
gave me oral copulation."
That's the word? (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) JUDGE KEITH: Sure? Oral sex, I'm sorry,
I used that word 'cause
I don't know the real word. Okay, but yeah,
that's what he told me and I said, "Um. You know
I graduated high school "and you know your esophagus
and uterus is two
different places?" (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) JUDGE KEITH: So Mr. McNeal, How does this woman
that you're involved with get pregnant
just through oral sex? That was in the past. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Okay, that still
doesn't explain
the biology of it. I cheated. JUDGE DANA: So you admit it? I cheated. Yeah. JUDGE KEITH: You admit that. JUDGE DANA:
You didn't come clean
when we asked you about it, but you've come clean
since then. Yes. Okay, so why did
you take him back
after all that? Well Your Honor, I have been grounded
in the church, so I believe deeply
about family
and forgiving. JUDGE DANA: You took him back? Yes. Why do you believe
that he is cheating now? There, oh my goodness,
there's so many reasons. I brought evidence
for one. (STUTTERING) JUDGE DANA:
Why don't you step over
to the monitor. Yes, please. Remember this
when you think about screwin'. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Okay, so? I'm sitting at home,
talking to my sister
on the phone. Bring, Bring. Bring.
Phone picks up,
I answer, "Hello?" "Hello, can I speak to Bennie?" I'm like, I'm sorry,
he's not here right now.
Can I take a message? See I'm nice, right.
That's how I am
on the phone. So, about half an hour later,
phone call rings again. "Hello" She's like,
"I'm sorry ma'am,
but is Bennie there?" I'm like, "No. Who is this?" She was like,
"I know you're his aunt, "and he said that
you don't like people
calling for him." "His what?" JUDGE DANA: His... you... She said you his aunt? Yeah. He told her I was his aunt. JUDGE DANA: Oh Don't call here because I will... Because I don't
like him having phone calls. I says "So where you at baby?" She said,
"I'm at the train station." "Well baby, I can come meet you
cause I don't know
where he at. "And I need to see him,
make sure that he meet you." (AUDIENCE CHEERING) So went down there, and I goes to her
and I'm like,
"You so and so?" She was like, "Yes." "Trust me I'm not his aunt
but I am his baby's mom." I said, "But I'm not the type
of girl that jump on a girl. "I'm going to sit over here, "you sit over there
and we both wait
for Bennie to come up." So we sitting there
and I'm just sitting there
and waiting, And I'm waiting. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING
AND CLAPPING) I'm waiting for
Bennie to show up. JUDGE KEITH:
Okay, so let me guess,
that's you and that's the other woman and you all are
at the train station and you're just waiting.
You're waiting Oh, I'm waiting. JUDGE DANA:
So tell me what happened.
I can't wait. GARRETT:<i> Well, then Bennie
comes pulling up</i> <i>So when Bennie comes
pulling up...</i> (ALL LAUGHING) I told her "Look, it's okay." So she walks over,
and then as she's about
to almost get to him I step up and I walk over. He comes and grabs me,
tells me come on Nicole, tries to turn me around,
come on, Nicole.
Come on, come on. You remember that right?
Okay, so I'm... (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) I'm like,
no where you going? I'm like,
"That girl, calling you." He's like "Ain't nobody
calling me." He was like, "No, no,
I don't know her." "Oh, you know her.
'cause this is the second time, "that something like
that happened."
It wasn't exactly that... So she's calling him,
"Hey, hey," and he's walking, he doesn't
even acknowledge her? He doesn't acknowledge her. I acknowledged her
because I'm a female. JUDGE DANA:
Did he say anything to her? No. Not till I made him. I walked past, 'cause
I was shocked that
Nicole and her was together. I know you were. (ALL SPEAKING TOGETHER
AND LAUGHING) So I was trying,
I was trying to run. I was trying to run. Shocked wouldn't begin to
describe what you felt when you pulled up
and you saw your fiancee and your other woman
there together? Looking at you,
looking at them,
looking at you. It was really like a movie,
'cause I was like... Were you sleeping
with this other woman? No. Okay. Have you ever slept
with this other woman? GARRETT: We all in the court
know he lying? No. Have you got
a button we could push... JUDGE DANA: Have you had
any kind of
relations with this woman? No. Nothing ever happened? No. GARRETT:
Can we go to the next one then, 'Cause I can name
other times. And I'm not a cheater. JUDGE DANA:
Miss Garrett, have you caught
him with any other woman? Just recently we got,
you know he got another child. We got this one, all right? Then we got one just recent. We sitting at home,
watching a movie. Now his phone
is always on vibrate,
all of a sudden. Okay, now his phone
is on vibrate, we talking, he gets up,
he goes to the bathroom. I'm like, okay no big deal,
nobody thinks nothing, right? So I get up,
I go to the bathroom too. So when I get to the bathroom I hear chattering. So I pause and I listen and I hear, "Why you gonna
do me like that?" And then I hear, "Lower it." and then I hear,
"What, you gonna give me some?" So... (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) I knocked on the door. He like, "Wait a minute." "It's me open the door
why the door locked?" So he's like,
"Oh I've used the bathroom,"
and he go run out. Oh, wait a minute.
What was that on the phone? I was talking to a friend. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) JUDGE DANA:
What were you talking
to your friend about? My friend was showing me something that I feel
like it would have been
disrespectful if I'd seen it the next to her. JUDGE KEITH:
What was that? Breasts. JUDGE DANA: That your friend
was showing you
their breasts? Yeah. Cutler you got
any friends that do that? No. You better not. Better not. (ALL LAUGHING) And so you felt it
would be disrespectful for you to look at
your friends breasts while you sitting
next to your fiancee. Yes. Okay, so you... Wow, he's a polite one. GARRETT: No. No. No. No. I got breasts.
I'm a female. I got milk,
and I'm well-endowed right? Come on now,
that don't make no sense. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) Twenty years.
Twenty years. The best years of my life. Twenty years.
I'm forty years old. I've not trying
to get played around. We were supposed to get married
over three different times. Three! JUDGE DANA:
And that never happened? No, He proposed
to me in church. Now, sacrilegious,
like come on now. How to do you go
propose to me in Church, and don't really mean it? My wedding gown
is in the box. JUDGE KEITH: Now you going on,
he's proposing to you... JUDGE DANA: You just waiting? ...and he's looking at
some other woman's breasts. So Mr. McNeal. Yeah. Why you looking at
some other woman's breasts and why are they
showing you their breasts? Through, through my lifetime
I had a lot of friends. You know my friends sometimes
want to show me things, stuff like that, I mean, she show me them
and I went there. Friends show you a new car,
friends show you a new house. Friends show you
new clothes they bought. Friends don't' just,
Hey look... I mean she, she's a real... One of my ex-friends,
and she just showed me, and... GARRETT:
Now it's an ex-friend She's an ex-friend,
you mean an ex-girlfriend? No. No girlfriend.
Just an ex-friend. I do have a lot of besties. Any woman in particular
that you're worried about? Or that
he may be involved in. Any of them he called bestie.
Any of them. And all these besties,
Your Honor, I don't know. How we after twenty years, and we don't go
to each others houses, they don't come to my house, they don't call. Nothing. But they're your besties. But how come I don't know? Don't you know his friends? I do. So they're your friends
and that's all they are?
Why I don't know them? Okay. JUDGE DANA: Why is that? Because she don't do
what they do. She don't smoke,
she don't drink, she don't gamble,
she don't do nothing. So why would
I want her around people that do this
and gamble. If you're a church woman
you don't do that, why should I want
to put you around that? Well why would you
want to be around that? If you got a church woman,
why you wanna be around that? Because listen, through
my trials and tribulations, she know what I was. Nicole know what I did. GARRETT: And you said was,
right? So you ain't there no more. Okay, but the fact is
though that
I still have friends. Okay, but you're not going...
Birds of a feather
flock together. If you're doing it,
that's where you go. Can I tell you
something else? His besties, you know
he go out, he hang out, I'm like how you
going out all the time and you say
you ain't got no money? "Oh, one of my besties
give me money." (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) What besties you know
that give money all the time for you
to go to the casinos and stay out
days and days at a time? JUDGE DANA: Where do they go,
these besties
who giving him money, where do they go? To the casino.
We go to gamble. I gamble. I love gambling. So you think
he's cheating
with some of these... GARRETT: He got to be. What women gives a man money to gamble with
every single time. And again, how come
she don't come to the house
to pick him up? Why they always
meeting somewhere to go? Exactly. Where they go
for a day and a half? JUDGE KEITH: So Mr. McNeal,
so you say you're at a casino? Yes. Is that somewhere you go on a regular basis? Yeah, to gamble.
To try to get money
for my family. JUDGE KEITH:
How long do you... Ask him where the money,
I ain't seen...
Show me the money When you go to the casino,
how long you there? Couple of hours
to like the next morning. JUDGE KEITH: So all night
you there basically? You believe he's with these
women, sleeping with them? Yes. MCNEAL: I ain't sleeping
with no women... JUDGE DANA: Not at the casino? No. There ain't
no sex involved, man. JUDGE KEITH:
Well, you know,
interestingly, the court has
uncovered some research. We contacted the casino
that you frequent (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING
AND CLAPPING) And in contacting the casino we learned that they have different levels
of player cards. MCNEAL: Yeah. And what they have is one level for
kind of entry level players, we have a mid level,
and have a highest level. Mmm. That's how casinos work. Mmm Right. And you're
familiar with that right? Well this casino, the level of card
that you get is based on your wins, your losses, how much you bet, and when and
how long you playing. MCNEAL: Mmm. So a player like you
who's there all the time, you know, overnight, you know, steadily
pumping money in, you got to be
at the highest level. Because that's how
they base the cards, right? I just got a card.
I just got a card. So I ain't... But you're there often.
You're playing,
you're overnight. Yeah, but... JUDGE KEITH: All the time. You're besties
are feeding you money. Yeah. So clearly you've got to be
at the highest level. But when we spoke
to the casino... MCNEAL: Mmm, go ahead. We looked at your card and it shows that you're
just at the entry level. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS) Not indicative of someone
who spends all their time
at the casino. JUDGE DANA: All right. Well,
I think Mr. Cutler, we have enough evidence. My personal favorite,
the woman at the station. She goes there. The young woman's there, Miss Garrett is there,
Mr. McNeal is there. When he walks up
he sees them both. JUDGE KEITH:<i> Cold busted.</i> JUDGE DANA:<i> Cold busted.</i> MCNEAL:<i> Yeah I was busted.</i> JUDGE DANA:
Caught him in the bathroom,
video chatting with a friend. And this friend said,
look I got something for you. And he's trying to get her
to bring it lower, lower. He claims he goes gambling
for a day, two days at a time. His besties just
keep giving him money. And they don't want
anything in return. Me and you both know
there ain't no such thing
as a free ride. And now his fiancee
thinks that she is the one
that's getting played. JUDGE DANA:
She thinks she's being played. JUDGE KEITH: And this 20 year
relationship is on the line. I'm being taken for a ride. If she finds out he's cheating
for a forth time, she's out. So what have
we done Mr. Cutler? JUDGE KEITH:
This court has done a full
and complete investigation. At this time
the court will hear from certified
polygraph examiner, Michael Williams,
to determine,
"Is he cheating." (AUDIENCE CHEERING
AND CLAPPING) JUDGE KEITH: Mr. Williams,
how are you today? WILLIAMS: Doing fine.
How are you this afternoon. JUDGE KEITH: Doing good. You conducted a polygraph
examination of Mr. McNeal,
is that correct? That's correct. JUDGE DANA:
All right, you look nervous. I ain't nervous.
Why I'm nervous for? JUDGE DANA:
I don't know. You tell me. I don't got to be nervous. JUDGE DANA: All right. JUDGE KEITH:
Mr. McNeal was asked "Other than what
your fiancee Miss Garrett
knows about, "in the past two years "have you had
sexual intercourse "with anyone other
than your fiancee?" What was his response
to that question? MR. WILLIAMS:
Your Honor, his response
was "no." JUDGE KEITH: What did the
lie detector determine? What did the
lie detector determine? Your Honor, the
lie detector determined
that he was being deceptive. Yes, I knew it. (AUDIENCE CHEERING) Oh, I knew it. Holy Ghost don't lie. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) She is in tears... Look at her.
Don't look at me. Look at her. She is in tears
over your behavior, over your refusal
to tell her the truth. Mr. Cutler,
He was my first. I thought I gone spend
my whole life with this man. I wasn't running around
in the streets. This is the man
who said he was going
to be with me forever. But... He gone
take my virginity, take... Risk my religion, everything to be with this man. Me and my dad
fell out for years
me being with this man. We got three kids together. How do you do this to me? Living in my house. How do you do this to me? How? McNeal, how do you
do this to me? Mr. McNeal,
you haven't said a word, you owe her some explanation,
some response. I apologize. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS) JUDGE KEITH: Is that
all you got? I ain't been with nobody but... (AUDIENCE JEERING) JUDGE DANA: All right, well, you can lead him to water
but you can't make 'em drink. Bang on. Mr. McNeal, now we know
why you got the
low level playing card. Because... (AUDIENCE JEERING AND CLAPPING) You won't come clean
and this relationship is over. Miss Garrett,
I'm so sorry that you got
the answers you got today. I was hoping,
because you clearly
are devoted to this man. How do you feel
as you stand here? It's over, the Lord
already told me I don't want a confirmation,
an affirmation, I'm done.
