Doctor Says: Eat cheese? | Ep77

[Music] welcome to the doctor Gundry podcast you know there's nothing a little more than hearing from my listeners and readers and boy have I had a lot of questions about my yes and no lists of foods particularly as I put out a new book and that lists changes so I get it you know one egg replacer that I might have recommended two years ago I might not recommend now because believe it or not formulas change without consulting me so what I said was a really great egg replacer a year ago that formula changed and I no longer recommend that egg replacer and I you know I do try my best to keep the list updated I assure you I am always looking for a new food to add and I'm always looking for when somebody changes something and if we don't get to the question I will try to remind myself to talk about the changes that have been made in corn products that's not corn it's qu orm because I have a lot of patients that ask me about that so the fundamentals of the Sno list actually hopefully never change now having said that you really smart readers careful readers may know that in the doctor Gundry cookbook the original one I cited a paper that said pecans might have a lectin that in some people attack the pancreas and that same paper suggested that there is a lectin in seaweed that may be problematic and it's well hidden in that book but every now and then an alert reader will pick that up so why haven't I taken pecans and seaweed off the list well stay tuned and because in my upcoming book the energy paradox which will be out this coming fall I have found through multiple food allergy testing in my patients that pecans often often often I would say 75% of the time come up as a food that people are allergic to so stay tuned they may be coming off the list also we have found that there is a lectin in spinach that can be problematic for certain individuals not everybody and as I get more data from my patients remember this is not conjecture on my part this is data driven from patient blood work as more data comes in we may issue a cautionary note on spinach but for now don'ts don't throw the spinach away okay so there's always gonna be great food steep and there probably be always foods that you should avoid okay so there's always exceptions to the rule and we're gonna talk about some of the exceptions okay francy as I have a tree nut allergy so the acceptable flowers on the list or out of my range of acceptability I am also vegetarian so meats and chicken on the list are cannot be eaten dairy is one of my protein staples any suggestions well there's certainly a lot of flowers on the list that are not nut based for instance tiger nuts are not a nut at all they are a tuber cassava is a tuber millet is a grain without a halt as is sorghum and we're increasingly seeing sorghum and millet flour is available on a routine basis and if worse comes to worse you can find them on Amazon or on thrive so there's multiple other flowers are there than almond and coconut flour most people don't react to almond and coconut flour but I'll add the proviso make sure it's blanched almond flour not whole almond flour for instance Trader Joe's does sell a whole ground-up almond flour and you can actually see the flecks of brown a number of my patients with autoimmune disease do react to the lectin and the peel of almonds that's why you actually don't see almonds on the approved nutless marcona almonds which are peeled almonds are perfectly acceptable but in my way of thinking there's actually far better nuts to eat than almonds in terms of feeding gut bacteria and I've written about that in the longevity paradox that there's better choices okay dairy is one of my protein staples well dairy as a protein if you find casein a2 milk products and they are increasingly available that's a perfectly acceptable protein source you can get it from goat's milk you can get it from goat's cheeses you can get it from sheep cheeses you can get sheep yogurt which is absolutely fantastic sheep and goat cheeses from Europe no matter where they come from are safe and most cows in France Italy and Switzerland are a to producers as is buffalo mozzarella so make sure it says buffalo mozzarella either from Italy there's also a company that we've talked about before from Ecuador called boof buf and you can find in a Whole Foods you can find it in actually multiple stores now and a true water buffalo milk is perfectly safe now having said that there are a number of people in my practice who when we do further testing they do react to all the casings in milk and even whey protein in milk so if you notice that even if you are eating casein a2 milk products and you still have an issue whether it's irritable bowel whether its mucous production then you're one of those people where milk is you know one of your off foods always remember there's there's no human need for milk we're we're the only animal that uses some other animals milk product well cats like it but that's we give it to cats they don't go milk a cow so milk is not essential for your good health also remember that while there may be cheese's aged cheese's that have a really cool compound called poly amines which appear to promote longevity milk in general liquid milk has lots of insulin-like growth factor to make baby cows or baby goats or baby sheep grow quickly so I'd much rather you use the finished product of milk like an aged cheese or even a yogurt rather than the milk liquid itself okay hope that helps Robin ass can you drink almond milk well you can yep you can drink almond milk I find it a little watery and bland I think there's actually a lot better products out there on the market now I'm particularly fond of a combination of macadamia and coconut milks that are available there's some really I think thick delicious coconut milks that are available there are some combinations of almond and coconut milk that give you the thickness you want and if you want to have some fun look for several of the products that are non-dairy half-and-half which are often a mixture of macadamia or coconut or almond milks and you're going to get more of a thicker texture for those but yeah you can drink almond milk Christiana asks what about honey is that on the S or no list so you'll notice in the plant paradox family cookbook I do recommend in a few recipes using a little bit of local honey you got to remember that honey is sugar there's no other way of looking at it and in general we have far too much sugar in our diet period that being said if you use local honey there is some interesting evidence that they contain health benefiting properties including actually some interesting probiotics and even prebiotics so it's not it's neither on the no or yes list because when I originally made the list if I put everything that everybody asked a question about it would take the entire book just to do the yes and no list so rather than put at one place or another it wasn't a big thing that my patients were demanding and so I just left it off the list one way or another but yeah honey does appear you'll notice in several of my recipes but do try to get local honey and you know again support your local beekeeper support your local farmers market and that's where you're gonna find local honey and please don't make the mistake that local honey so for instance I live in Palm Springs my local honey is not from Orange County it's from Palm Springs same way if I'm in Santa Barbara and my other home I buy scientist Santa Barbara honey do I use it quite frankly I almost never use honey except to make one of these recipes rose ass am I correct an understanding that much of the know list is perfectly fine if pressure-cooked she's specifically looking at squash quinoa rice lentils the answer in a general rule is yes there are there is evidence that pressure cooking destroys most lectins the exception to the rule never listed on the list is gluten which is present in wheat rye and barley cannot be destroyed by pressure cooking it is a really nasty protein that can't be broken apart by pressure cooking having said that there is a protein in oats that mimics gluten and so I've had a number of my Canaries test even pressure cooking oats for an hour and they still react to oats so you'll notice that that's on the off I have a number of people who still want to maintain their traditional diet their family diet and that includes lentils and for instance quinoa and they do extremely well by pressure cooking their quinoa in fact interesting that just this past week I have a family who have quinoa and they pressure-cooked 13:1 are thriving on that and they invited their in-laws over to have pressure cook quinoa and the in-laws said there's no way we're coming over that's not how you cook quinoa and you know you're gonna make some regular stuff for us and they actually didn't and they fed their family the pressure cook quinoa man he said you're not gonna believe this my in-laws actually said why didn't you tell us about this before this is so much better than the way we've been preparing it so true story from just this past week as you know in the plant paradox I write about a woman who immigrated to LA from Peru and wanted to continue her traditional diet which included quinoa she developed some impressive bowel issues and autoimmune disease and humorously her mother two weeks before her appointment with me flew from Peru and basically said you stupid girl didn't I tell you you have to pressure cook quinoa and she took her to Bed Bath & Beyond and bought her pressure cooker and when I met her she said you know my mother would beat you to me and ever since she's been pressure cooking her quinoa she has resolved your issues so these are real things white basmati rice I personally feels the safest of the Rice's please pressure cook it and as you've read even with any of these starches you're best off to pressure cook them put a little coconut oil in the pressure cooker with these starches but then cool the starch put it in the refrigerator and then reheat it the next day cooling will take any of these starches and increase their resistance starch content what resistance starch means for those of you who are just kind of getting into this it is resistant to normal digestion so it takes longer to digest number one and number two some of it actually resists our normal digestion and then is eaten by bacteria in our gut so it becomes a prebiotic now we can get really nerdy on resistant starches but really nerdy the potato's good old white potatoes can be made a resistant starch but the starch in potato is actually in our to starch and it is actually eaten by bad bacteria rather than good bacteria so it's another reason to avoid potatoes even if you're going to pressure cook them now I do have some of my patients that have to have their white potatoes and mashed potatoes and yes we have them peel the potatoes and pressure cook them but if you're looking for a starch that's good for you that's way down the list okay sherry s how do you ensure adequate potassium intake on the die bananas are a staple for me to ensure appropriate potassium levels I know sweet potatoes are a good source but so one has to remember that the United Fruit Company who originated bringing bananas to the United States had to make people adopt to a new food source one of the fascinating things about about bananas that I hope everyone knows that bananas were the original fruit that could be picked green and then shipped across the country and then ripened with either exposure to air or ripen rapidly with exposure to the gas ethylene oxide so that was the motivation for making bananas a desired food source so how do you make people eat bananas when they don't know anything about it in the early 1900's the United Fruit Company paid doctors to tell people that bananas were a great source of potassium that people needed in their diet it turns out the potassium that potassium is not particularly high in bananas in fact there are far better foods including leafy greens that have far more potassium per ounce than bananas but it was this marketing plan over a hundred years ago that actually made people and doctors to this day tell people eat bananas for potassium incidentally the United Fruit Company formed with the new founded Kellogg's cornflakes company in 1906 to have a coupon for a bunch of Chiquita bananas in every box of Kellogg's cornflakes and doctors were paid to tell people that the healthy way to start your day was with a bowl of Kellogg's cornflakes with a sliced banana so that's why you know now why my mom gave me a healthy sliced banana on my Kellogg's cornflakes every day while I was growing up and while I was getting allergy shots little did I know little did she know that's because of the power of marketing and as anyone learns if you say an untruth often enough and loud enough it will become the truth how is that okay also calcium is a concern so most of the world two-thirds of the world cannot drink milk because of lactose intolerance they did not inherit the mutated gene that allows most European ancestry to tolerate lactose many of us don't have the particular lactobacilli that can digest lactose easily 2/3 the world does not use calcium does not take calcium as a supplement the FDA has warned that in general we should not take calcium in a supplement form that we should get calcium which is an essential mineral from food and so it's incredibly available in all of our green leafy vegetables it's actually president avocados do a very good amount its present in millet and sorghum it is present and beans and people have to understand I have nothing against beans and lentils as long as you pressure cook them they are a great source of prebiotic fiber but just take the time to detoxify the lectins by pressure cooking and it's so easy to do if you don't want to do that you can go to your friendly store and pick cup even brand beans I have no relationship with them edy en and they are the only being that I have found that is pressure-cooked in the camp it's pre soaked and the BPA light there is no BPA lining in Eden beans and believe it or not I have a shelf full of Eden beans in both of my pantries and I eat them so whoever puts out on the internet then you know I am totally against beans it's not true I eat them maybe I'll post a video of me eating beans that'll be good okay I'll look for that bottom line how does one ensure the right vitamin and mineral balance so if you eat a wide range of different vegetables different starches different routes you will maintain an adequate balance one of the things that has been noted over and over over again is that our soil even our organic soil is terribly depleted of magnesium and selenium how do you get selenium in your diet well one of the easiest ways is to buy a bag of Brazil nuts and eat three Brazil nuts a day and that will get you your daily requirement of selenium and actually they're pretty good for you magnesium on the other hand is really difficult to get by eating food and I have every one of my patients on a magnesium supplement I particularly like potassium magnesium aspartate there are several companies that manufacture it look for the most you can get per tablet or capsule the labeling is very inconsistent if you have any issues with cramps in your legs cramps particularly at night or if you're doing a ketogenic diet you absolutely positively must supplement with potassium magnesium aspartate and it's actually one of the better tolerated combinations of magnesium at high dose magnesium will act as a diarrhea or soft stool inducing agent milk of magnesia is concentrated magnesium so those are the two really fundamental minerals that may be lacking in our diet because of our soil depletion shall we yes I love avocados but in the last five years or so I have extreme gut pain when I eat them and have eliminated them from my diet this diet seems to rely heavily on avocados so I am wondering why I'm having a problem with them and what other options do I have so I have several patients who clearly react to avocados and some of them actually seem to develop an intolerance for them the longer they eat them so I think avocados are one of the greatest fruits there is and yes an avocado is a fruit it's a single seeded berry but on the other hand if you see that there is a food that you react to it's you know like the old doctor joke doctor or well you know whenever I do this I get a headache and the answer is well don't do that and so if you notice you react avocados don't do it I can tell you I have a number particularly women who get irritable bladder from eating spinach and they notice it universally and I can tell you I have purposely overloaded myself on spinach and I induced irritable bladder and myself so I believe you when you tell me that and there are compounds and spinach that are capable of doing that and that actually brings me to an interesting point a patient asked me a couple weeks ago the more you kind of stick with this program when you go off even with a little cheat do you notice you're now realizing that that product that food actually bothers you and I think that's actually a great observation because I noticed that it myself and I have noticed it in lots of patients normally we are so bombarded with compounds that universally make us feel bad have brain fog have bad sleep have pains we are so used to that that when we take all those products away and we finally wake up when we add that product back our sensitivity is now heightened to the actual effect that product was having on us and I'll give you an example it's it's sexually in my new book but I'll give you a preface as a transplant surgeon both doing kidney transplants and heart transplants we would have people who were functioning quite well with basically horrible kidneys or a horribly pumping heart and they could do a number of things when we would put a new kidney in them or a new heart in them within a day they would go oh my gosh I forgot what normal felt like this is what normal feels like and it's so interesting I've been so impressed that we have been so surrounded by food that's toxic that's making us feel bad having low energy having fatigue having brain fog that we are so used to that that we think that's normal and what really delights me I mean it delighted me when it happened to me is when that lifts you go oh my gosh I forgot what normal feels like and so when you add something back that is one of the culprits it's wonderful because now your body says hey you idiot well you know what'd you do that for and you can feel it immediately so it's a it's a real thing Scott from Instagram asks can I drink ciders as a beer alternative that is a great question Scott because I have a gentleman who's in his 70s who has some of the most impressive leaky gut that I've come across he does not absorb protein well he is skinny as a rail and his wife is a faithful follower of mine and he's actually a faithful follower of mine except he used to drink a six-pack of beer every day we weaned him down to one to two beers per day and he still has leaky gut so I said I'll tell you what let's do a really specific leaky gut test on you and let's find out your culprit knowing full well what I think we thought we'd find and lo and behold all of his leaky gut tests came back and son-of-a-gun I've been telling them this for 10 years he reacts to wheat and surprise a wheat and he reacts severely to gluten and gluten is in his beer no matter what beer he's drinking beer has gluten and his wife you know hits him over the head with her pocketbook and says yes see I told you you got to give up the beer so what I'm gonna do next week when I get back to the Palm Springs office is I'm gonna have my staff call and say I'm gonna make a swap for you let's get rid of beer and let's put inside her and gonna see what happens great question Yuli from Instagram ass is tell our allowed tough is actually a very interesting ancient grain from Africa it's really tiny it grows in incredibly arid awful places and it's a staple of the people I go dig wells for in Ethiopia and teff is actually a safe grain it's another one of those hauless grain try to bite fu actually support indigenous farmers so Hannah from Instagram asks for high-fat dairy products how important is it to stick with organic dairy products yes get organic dairy products but warning if it says grass-fed but doesn't tell you the cow breed most of our cows in the United States are Holstein or their Jersey cows jerseys are half a one and half a two so they do have a one casing in them the picture Elsie the cow was a Jersey cow for those of you who remember Borden Fame you're better off getting excuse-me cheeses from raw cheeses from France Italy and Switzerland which have all been grass-fed and so they're all organic you're just much safer so the follow up with that what about cream cheese well cream cheese does not have any casein in it I mean there's a microscopic amount but it's really basically unmeasurable so you're safe with organic cream cheese as one of the safe you know cow's milk product if you're gonna use cream cheese so Kristin asks what about blue cheese so there's lots of great blue cheeses out there but I would prefer if you got your blue cheese from particularly France Italy or the mountainous areas of Germany and Switzerland which are all a two how's blue cheese from England and having lived in England I love Stilton cheese it's the wrong breed of cow it's a Holstein so you're much better off getting your blue cheeses like penny and I do from from France that's the blue cheese's we use or Italy so a goldstein from Instagram ass please recommend a perilla oil to cook with well there's actually a number of pearl oils that are available if you go to an Asian market perilla oil is the most popular oil for cooking in Korea and parts of China you can go on Amazon and get it I get mine from a company called dr. wonderful which is easy to find on Amazon I have no relation now you may be wonderful for all I know but and I've been using that for a number of years my personal feeling is that long term in phase 2 or beyond olive oil is your best buddy because it has far more polyphenols than perilla oil the benefit of perilla oil is it has a lot of what's called rosmarinic acid which is one of the secrets to the longevity and good brain health of the ecchi roley's that community that is south of Naples which has the oldest the biggest percentage of over hundred year old people of any community so rosmarinic acid which by the way is in one of several of my products is one of the real secrets to longevity so 303 Charlie from Instagram wants to know about mycotoxins in coffee and chocolate and other things and he wants to know are they really as bad as certain people say they are that's a great question and I actually take care of a number of people who come to me with a mold exposure or mycotoxin exposure including one of the world's experts on it and I'll give you my take on all of this I don't test for these things the fact that you may test positive for IgG to various molds or other fungi does not mean that those molds and fungi are in you or that you were ever infected with them it means that you were exposed to them and you appropriately made a antibody to these having said that your immune system most of our immune systems because of leaky gut and quite frankly I think about a hundred percent of us walking around in America have leaky gut and your immune system is so hyper on stun alert that any foreign protein will activate them to attack not only them but you normally when your gut is sealed and you have a normal component of microbiome with lots and lots and thousands and millions of different species those species literally educate your immune system that we've got your back whatever you're going to swallow we'll take care of and even if we don't they're not going to bother you and you guys can just rest and stand down I'm a perfect example of that I got allergy shots for most of my teenage and young adult life I don't have any allergies anymore I was allergic to every mold there was I could live in a moldy house I will not have any reaction to mold exposure because my immune system is different by the way the Italian government has issued statements that there are no mycotoxins in espresso so there are none because the process even if there were the cooking process the high temperature kills and deactivates any mycotoxin same way with chocolate so if you react to these molds or fungi it's because your immune system is hyper reactive and that's actually telling you that these guys are not the problem the problem is you got leaky gut and you got a horrible imbalance microbiome we fix that that problem goes away as it did with one of the world experts in mycotoxins when we changed your leaky gut so that's it for this week from the dr. ghungroo podcast please send your questions on in it's really fun to get a chance to answer your questions and send more and we'll be happy to put me on the firing line because i'm dr Gundry and i'm always looking out for you before you go I just wanted to remind you that you can find the show on itunes google play stitcher or wherever you get your podcast because i'm dr Gundry and i'm always looking out for you [Music] you

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Length: 37min 20sec (2240 seconds)

Published: Mon Jan 27 2020