Divergence and curl: The language of Maxwell's equations, fluid flow, and more

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That explanation of why divergence is related to the dot product and curl to the cross product was really good.

👍︎︎ 126 👤︎︎ u/Jerudo 📅︎︎ Jun 21 2018 🗫︎ replies

I've never understood how to reconcile this explanation of divergence (the "outiness") with its Lie derivative definition, which suggests to me it's how the outiness changes as you travel along the vector field.

👍︎︎ 37 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Jun 21 2018 🗫︎ replies

This is the conventional intuition about curl, but this has never fully clicked with me. Whereas the intuitive description of divergence is quantitative, the intuitive description of curl is only qualitative. The divergence is how much of the fluid is streaming out of a region at a point, and this has units mass per area. But what are the units of curl, and what does "how much a fluid is rotating around a point" mean concretely? Does the intuition explain that the vector field v = (y,-x) has constant curl everywhere, but the vector field w = v/(x^2 + y^2) has zero curl everywhere except at the origin?

An alternative way of understanding curl is that the curl is simply the divergence of the vector field rotated 90 degrees. This provides the quantitative intuition via the divergence, but it's rather indirect. It does intuitively explain why v has constant curl and w has zero curl except at the origin.

You can also view these as operations on covector fields rather than vector fields. Given a covector field F and a point x and a vector v, the value of F(x)(v) is how much fluid is flowing through the line segment v attached to the point x in a unit of time. So the units of F(x)(v) are mass. The units of v are length, so the units of F are mass per length. That's why the divergence gives mass per area: you differentiate F with respect to dx and dy, which have units of length.

👍︎︎ 26 👤︎︎ u/julesjacobs 📅︎︎ Jun 21 2018 🗫︎ replies
👍︎︎ 74 👤︎︎ u/Redrot 📅︎︎ Jun 21 2018 🗫︎ replies

Divergence, curl, fluid flow, and Maxwell's Equations are some of my all-time favorite topics in math. They're what finally cemented my choice to be a mathematician.

And he still managed to make me view them in a new light!

👍︎︎ 11 👤︎︎ u/Skylord_a52 📅︎︎ Jun 22 2018 🗫︎ replies
👍︎︎ 19 👤︎︎ u/its2ez4me24get 📅︎︎ Jun 21 2018 🗫︎ replies

Man, I remember as a teenager, I was constantly warned by my teachers in high school that "university would be more difficult and I'd have to study more"... (I was one of those students that didn't need to study like a crazy person so long as I paid attention in class)

What I now realize is that they really should have warned me that I wouldn't have any inspired profs at university...

... this video is great.

👍︎︎ 18 👤︎︎ u/perspectiveiskey 📅︎︎ Jun 21 2018 🗫︎ replies

I love how every time 3b1b posts a video, there is a race to who posts a link here and wins all that sweet karma.

👍︎︎ 29 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Jun 21 2018 🗫︎ replies

How are these mathematical animations made?

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/puremath369 📅︎︎ Jun 22 2018 🗫︎ replies
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today you and I are gonna get into divergence and curl to make sure we're all on the same page let's begin by talking about vector fields essentially a vector field is what you get if you associate each point in space with a vector some magnitude and direction maybe those vectors represent the velocities of particles of fluid at each point in space or maybe they represent the force of gravity at many different points in space or maybe a magnetic field strength quick note on drawing these often if you were to draw the vectors to scale the longer ones end up just cluttering up the whole thing so it's common to basically lie a little and artificially shorten ones that are too long maybe using color to give some vague sense of length now in principle vector fields and physics might change over time in almost all real world fluid flow the velocities of particles in a given region of space will change over time in response to the surrounding context wind is not a constant it comes in gusts an electric field changes as the charged particles characterizing it move around but here we'll just be looking at static vector fields which maybe you think of as describing a steady state system also while such vectors could in principle be three-dimensional or even higher we're just going to be looking at two dimensions an important idea which regularly goes unsaid is that you can often understand a vector field which represents one physical phenomenon better by imagining what if it represented a different physical phenomenon what if these vectors describing gravitational force instead defined a fluid flow what would that flow look like and what can the properties of that float tell us about the original gravitational force and what if the vectors defining a fluid flow were thought of as describing the downhill direction of a certain hill does such a hill even exist and if so what does it tell us about the original flow these sorts of questions can be surprisingly helpful for example the ideas of divergence and curl are particularly viscerally understood when the vector field is thought of as representing fluid flow even if the field you're looking at is really meant to describe something else like an electric field here take a look at this vector field and think of each vector as describing the velocity of a fluid at that point notice that when you do this that fluid behaves in a very strange non-physical way around some points like these ones the fluid seems to just spring into existence from nothingness as if there's some kind of source there some other points act more like sinks where the fluid seems to disappear into nothingness the divergence of a vector field at a particular point of the plane tells you how much this imagined fluid tends to flow out of or into small regions near it for example the divergence of our vector field evaluated at all of those points that act like sources will give a positive number and it doesn't just have to be that all of the fluid is flowing away from that point the divergence would also be positive if it was just that the fluid coming into it from one direction was slower than the flow coming out of it in another direction since that would still insinuate a certain spontaneous generation now on the flip side if in a small region around a point there seems to be more fluid flowing into it than out of it the divergence at that point would be a negative number remember this vector field is really a function that takes in two dimensional inputs and spits out two dimensional outputs the divergence of that vector field gives you a new function one that takes in a single 2d point as its input but its output depends on the behavior of the field in a small neighborhood around that point in this way it's analogous to a derivative and that output is just a single number measuring how much that point acts as a source or a sink and purposely delaying discussion of computations here the understanding for what it represents is more important notice this means that for an actual physical fluid like water rather than some imagined one used to illustrate an arbitrary vector field then if that fluid is incompressible the velocity vector field must have a divergence of zero of where that's an important constraint on what kinds of vector fields could solve real-world fluid flow problems for the curl at a given point you also think about the fluid flow around it but this time you asked how much that fluid tends to rotate around the point as in if you were to drop a twig in the fluid at that point somehow fixing its center in place would it tend to spin around regions where that rotation is clockwise are said to have positive curl and regions where it's counterclockwise have negative curl and it doesn't have to be that all of the vectors around the input are pointing counterclockwise or all of them are pointing clockwise a point inside a region like this one for example would also have nonzero curl since the flow is slow at the bottom but quick up top resulting in a net clockwise influence and really true proper curl is a three dimensional idea one where you associate each point in 3d space with a new vector characterizing the rotation around that point according to a certain right hand rule and I have plenty of content from my time at Khan Academy describing this in more detail if you want but for our main purpose I'll just be referring to the two dimensional variant of curl which associates each point in 2d space with a single number rather than a new vector as I said even though these intuitions are given in the context of fluid flow both of these ideas are significant for other sorts of vector fields one very important example is how electricity and magnetism are described by for special equations these are known as Maxwell's equations and they're written in the language of divergence and curl this top one for example is Gauss's law stating that the divergence of an electric field at a given point is proportional to the charge density at that point unpacking the intuition for this you might imagine positively charged regions as acting like sources of some imagined fluid and negatively charged regions as being the sinks of that fluid and throughout parts of space where there is no charge the fluid would be flowing in compressively just like water of course there's not some literal electric fluid but it's a very useful and a very pretty way to read an equation like this similarly another important equation is that the divergence of the magnetic field is zero everywhere and you can understand that by saying that if the field represents a fluid flow that fluid would be incompressible with no sources and no sinks it acts just like water this also has the interpretation that magnetic monopoles something that acts just like a north or a south end of a magnet in isolation don't exist there's nothing analogous to positive and negative charges in an electric field likewise the last two equations tell us that the way that one of these fields changes depends on the curl of the other field and really this is a purely three-dimensional idea and a little outside of our main focus here but the point is that divergence and curl arise in contexts that are unrelated to flow and side note the back and forth from these last two equations is what gives rise to light waves and quite often these ideas are useful in contexts which don't even seem spatial in nature at first to take a classic example that students of differential equations often studied let's say that you wanted to track the population sizes of two different species where maybe one of them is a predator of another the state of this system at a given time meaning the two population sizes can be thought of as a point in two-dimensional space what you would call the phase space of this system for a given pair of population sizes these populations may be inclined to change based on things like how reproductive are the two species or just how much does one of them enjoy eating the other one these rates of change would typically be written analytically as a set of differential equations it's okay if you don't understand these particular equations I'm just throwing them up for those of you who are curious and because we're placing variables with pictures makes me laugh a little bit but the relevance here is that a nice way to visualize what such a set of equations is really saying is to associate each point on the plane each pair of population sizes with a vector indicating the rates of change for both variables for example when there are lots of foxes but relatively few rabbit the number of foxes might tend to go down because of the constrained food supply and the number of rabbits might also tend to go down because they're getting eaten by all of the foxes potentially at a rate that's faster than they can reproduce so a given vector here is telling you how and how quickly a given pair of population sizes tends to change notice this is a case where the vector field is not about physical space but instead it's a representation of a certain dynamic system that has two variables and how that system evolves over time this can maybe also give a sense for why mathematicians care about studying the geometry of higher dimensions what if our system was tracking more than just two or three numbers now the flow associated with this field is called the phase flow for our differential equation and it's a way to conceptualize at a glance how many possible starting States would evolve over time operations like divergence and curl can help to inform you about the system do the population sizes tend to converge towards a particular pair of numbers or there are some values that they diverge away from are there cyclic patterns and are those cycles stable or unstable to be perfectly honest with you for something like this you'd often want to bring in related tools beyond just divergence and curl those would give you the full story but the frame of mind that practice with these two ideas brings you carries over well to studying setups like this with similar pieces of mathematical machinery now if you really want to get a handle on these ideas you'd want to learn how to compute them and to practice those computations and I'll leave some links to where you can learn about this and practice if you want again I did some videos and articles and worked examples for Khan Academy on this topic during my time there so too much detail here we'll start to feel redundant for me but there is one thing worth bringing up regarding the notation associated with these computations commonly the divergence is written as a dot product between this upside-down triangle thing and your vector field function and the curl is written as a similar cross product sometimes students are told that this is just a notational trick each computation involves a certain sum of certain derivatives and treating this upside-down triangle as if it was a vector of Rivet evaporators can be a helpful way to keep everything straight but it is actually more than just a mnemonic device there is a real connection between divergence and the dot product and between curl and the cross product even though we won't be doing practice computations here I would like to give you at least some vague sense for how these four ideas are connected imagine taking some small step from one point of your vector field to another the vector at this new point will likely be a little bit different from the one at the first point there will be some change to the function after that step which you might see by subtracting off your original vector from that new one and this kind of difference to your function over small steps is what differential calculus is all about now the dot product gives you kind of a measure of how aligned two vectors are right now the dot product of your step vector with that difference vector that it causes tends to be positive in regions where the divergence is positive and vice versa in fact in some sense the divergence is a sort of average value for this dot product of a step with a change to the output that it causes over all possible step directions assuming that things are rescaled appropriately I mean think about it if a step in some direction causes a change to that vector in that same direction this corresponds to a tendency for outward flow for positive divergence and on the flip side if those dot products tend to be negative meaning the difference vector is pointing in the opposite direction from the step vector that corresponds with a tendency for inward flow negative divergence similarly remember that the cross product is a sort of measure for how perpendicular two vectors are so the cross product of your step vector with the difference vector that it causes tends to be positive in regions where the curl is positive and vice versa you might 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