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[Music] um so what's good tmg famous your boy l and i'm back with another reaction how y'all feel welcome back to the channel salute listen bro highly highly highly requested mr baldwin is back on the channel man i highly request you y'all be at me bro y'all be at my when is mr baldwin when you go check out we we got y'all bro i promise i got you i promise look we back with him now and tonight's joint we checking out tonight's case is the chat room kills people solved mysteries episode two all right so if you're new hit the subscribe button if you ain't never heard mr baldwin before first of all go go subscribe to them and show them some love and then check this out the case we're gonna look at today is so messed up that british courts have banned all media outlets from ever revealing the true names of the people involved as such the names you're going to hear today have all been made up but before we get into today's story if you're a fan of the strange dark and mysterious delivered 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reaches out and grabs him by the shoulder before pulling out a huge knife and drives it into his stomach and says i'm sorry bro pulls it out again drives it into his chest before releasing it and letting john fall to the ground as soon as john hits the ground he looks up at mark and he says you're killing me and mark says i had to do it if you knew all the details you would understand and so after only a couple of minutes john goes quiet and he's laying still on the ground and mark would stand there just waiting for about 20 minutes to ensure that john really was dead before calling authorities and claiming some madman had snuck up behind them and attacked his best friend and you've got to send an ambulance as fast as you can when the ambulance arrived to mark's horror they were able to keep john alive and they were able to get into a hospital where he nearly died twice on the operating table but he ultimately would make a full recovery and when john was well enough to speak he would tell police that mark is the guy who attacked him but he had no idea why when mark was confronted with these allegations that he was the one who attacked john he quickly confessed and the police thought you know this is a strange case but pretty open and shut and they arrested mark for attempted murder when investigators began digging into the motive behind this attack they along with mark were not prepared for the totally bizarre story that unraveled the judge in this case would say well-schooled fiction writers could not come up with the plot of this real-life story and so this crazy story starts four months before the stabbing in february of 2003. in february of 2003 mark was a 16 year old student who was also a part-time dishwasher at a restaurant near his home in manchester england mark had okay grades but even by his own account he was nowhere near an academic in fact he was quite dimwitted he was very close with his family who all lived in a very modest home in a very modest neighborhood by all accounts mark was living a very ordinary life that year mark discovered an online chat room for teens in manchester england and it was designed to you know make friends and talk about fashion and sports and initially when he logged into this chat room he was just watching he wasn't really participating but over time he became a very active user and in fact became totally obsessed with his chat room and basically what'd this sound like to y'all right discord right now discord is like this new wave right now don't that sound like discord he put everything else in his life on the back burner to the point where his grades were tanking and he's staying up all night i mean this really took over his life also in february of 2013 john was a 14 year old student who lived in manchester england but not near mark and at this point he had not met mark yet he was incredibly intelligent and polite and charming and he was an excellent excellent student and he went to a very very prestigious school but while john's academic life was going really well his home life was kind of in shambles his mother had a series of really crappy boyfriends that always laughed and they always left her feeling very depressed it was just a very sad environment around his mother and john unfortunately had grown up believing one of his mother's ex-boyfriends was his biological father and even though this boyfriend had abandoned the family john at least knew who his dad was but it would turn out his biological father had actually abandoned him when he was a brand new baby and he had no way of figuring out who his dad even was john really wanted to escape his home life he wanted to just live somewhere else have an adventurous happy life away from all the sadness and depression he was around all the time and so it was in that frame of mind that he discovered this chat room the same one that mark had discovered although they don't know each other yet they're both entering the same chat room john's initial interest in this chat room was not nearly as high as marx was mark pretty much immediately became obsessed with being in this chat room john was a little bit more reserved but his mom purchased a laptop for him which suddenly gave him 24 7 access to this chat room and he found himself going on there all the time to the point where he was staying up all night and even skipping meals just so he wouldn't have to leave his screen even for a few minutes the main focus of this chat room was supposed to be sports and movies and entertainment but the real reason teenagers were flocking into this particular chat room was to flirt with each other and mark and john were no different they both really enjoyed you know these flirtatious interactions they were having with different girls on this chat room but john's interactions with the girls was very friendly and wasn't going to go anywhere it was not really intended to whereas mark fell head over heels in love with the girl he was flirting with and her name was rachel rachel was a 16 year old living in manchester england who worked at a gym and when mark saw her pictures he was just totally smitten with her and he sent her a direct message not really expecting her to write back but she did and she seemed at least somewhat interested in him and that night they stayed up all night chatting with each other and mark is just over the moon for the next sound like a catfish don't it he hadn't even seen her but yet he's head over heels bro next couple of days mark and rachel were talking non-stop on this chat room and then at some point rachel says hey i really want to introduce you to this guy i met on this chat he reminds me a lot of you i think you guys would get along great his name is john and mark was like okay cool so rachel introduced him to john and they hit it off right away and the three of them formed their own separate chat thread outside of the main chat room and very quickly through this separate chat thread that they were on pretty much 24 7 mark and john would become best friends and mark and rachel would fall deeper and deeper in love with each other every time john and mark were in this chat room they would use a web camera but rachel didn't have one and then see see screams catfish to me initially that really frustrated mark because he wanted to see his girlfriend in real time but she said she didn't have the money to get one and then she said she was shy and so mark's getting frustrated but she says mark come visit me if you don't live that far away you can see me in real life in real time and so initially mark's excited and he's talking to john about how excited he is to go see his girlfriend but then he gets cold feet and he makes an excuse and he doesn't go rachel's disappointed but she asks him again a couple more times if he'll come visit her and every time he would agree and then he would kind of chicken out but after the last time he canceled on her he finally got the courage up and he invited her to come visit him and this is when she started getting cold feet and they kind of went back and forth until they basically stopped asking to visit each other and they just decided that their relationship was going to live online even if there wasn't a web camera involved about three months after rachel mark and john had started their own separate chat thread a new user popped up inside the main chat room it was a fairly controlled group so it was pretty easy to tell when there were new people added and this individual only wrote in pink text so he stood out his name was kevin and he told the group that he was a stalker and that he had a foot fetish and the group thought this guy was pretty weird but they figured it was just you know some kid trying to get attention they didn't think much of him but shortly after kevin's arrival mark would get a private message from kevin that said i know you're rachel's boyfriend and i'm her soccer i'm gonna hurt her mark didn't know what to do so he just went to rachel and he said hey i got this strange email from this guy named kevin who says he's going to hurt you and he's your stalker and rachel kind of made light of it and said oh just ignore that guy i don't know what that's about and john didn't know what to make about it either so mark just kind of ignored it and then the next day when mark logged into the chat room rachel wasn't there now rachel always logged in at the same time that mark did and that john did it was very rare that she wouldn't be there and so mark asked john you know have you talked to rachel today and john said no and then mark went into the main chat room and he asked some people in there if they had seen rachel or talked to her and they said no and that's when mark went into his email and he had another message from kevin this message again was about rachel but this time kevin is saying he actually has rachel hostage and the only way he's gonna release her is if mark lets kevin look at his feet because again he has that foot fetish and so mark interestingly does not go to the police he doesn't tell anyone about this he just says okay i'll do that and so he lets him see his feet and then whoa whoa whoa whoa this is still oh my gosh it's so much oh my man pay attention to what your kids is looking at bro this is beyond crazy crazy online relationships not even able to see each other but maybe having an online relationship a new guy comes in who says he's a stalker with a foot like what and whoa where this is beyond crazy what the my head is spinning right now it just says there's just so much wrong going on in this story okay i'll do that and so he lets him see his feet and then kevin writes back saying okay i've released rachel later that day rachel came back online and she thanked mark for what he did but she felt really bad that he had to be kind of humiliated in that way and she said you know what we really need to meet up we need to see each other face to face i want to apologize to you and give you a hug and so they decide the next day they're going to meet up finally in town together what oh my gosh we i yo and if you don't believe our kids are this gullible and that they they yarn yard they yearn for attention that they're willing to be you know what i mean deceived like this bro think again this can happen to anybody's kid who's running for attention who's that desperate for a girl whose hormones are probably going crazy and the first girl to show him a lot of attention or quote-unquote girl we still don't even know if she's a girl he's never seen her and now she's kidnapped and released because you showed a dude your feet come on what oh my gosh bro this this this story here but the next day when mark went to the rendezvous point rachel didn't show in fact after this missed meeting rachel never contacted mark again she just are we surprised no vanished when mark got back to his computer he asked john you know have you talked to rachel and he said no and again he went into the main chat room and he asked around and no one had heard from rachel and then a couple of days later after just continued silence from rachel and mark's really upset about this he notices a rumor being passed around in the main chat room about how apparently one of the members of this chat room abducted and killed another member of the chat room and mark's thinking to himself no way that can't be about rachel but almost immediately after this rumor was kind of announced on the main chat people started chiming in that they think it could be kevin the guy who writes in all pink the guy who claims he's a stalker and this girl rachel because they both logged out around the same time and had not logged back in again they were the only ones in this chat room that were that inactive and then after that dozens more users were commenting that this was actually true that kevin had indeed abducted rachel and killed her they heard about it in other chat rooms and at school and all of a sudden mark's reality is just coming crashing down and he feels so guilty that he probably could have done something to stop this and he didn't but then interestingly even though mark was devastated just crushed by what has happened he just continued to log into the chat room and acted like nothing had happened and john picked up on this strange behavior and began kind of delicately asking him you know like are you doing okay but mark made it clear he did not want to talk about it and over time the rumor about what happened to rachel and kevin just kind of left the chat room and it just seemed like people moved on including mark and including john over the next month john and mark's relationship really strengthened they continued to speak in that private chat now missing rachel so they were only interacting with each other in there and they even began meeting up in person and hanging out in real life about a month after rachel's disappearance a new person popped up in the main chat it was a woman her name was janet and she wrote in all capitals and she reached out to mark and she said to mark that she was a mother of two she was married she's 44 years old she's a real estate agent but secretly she was a spy for the british secret service in fact she was the third most powerful person in all of britain and she was contacting mark because she was sent to recruit him she told mark if he agreed to work with her not only would he become an agent like her he would become fabulously wealthy and he could be her boyfriend now of course to an adult this sounds preposterous and sounds like an obvious scam but you gotta remember mark at this time was extremely vulnerable he's just lost that's what i was saying you know vulnerable they're easily deceived gullible any type of adjective you want to use just describe kids man teenagers young teenagers bro you dangle anything any type of story they'll eat at you know what i mean this is why parents man i know we want to i keep saying that i know we want to give them their privacy but bro we got to be on top of what they're doing his girlfriend under very suspicious circumstances but no matter how it happened she's gone and he's still grieving her loss privately and he's just not a very bright person so he's kind of primed to be taken advantage of and she was promising him all the things he wanted in life status money romance and so even though he didn't necessarily believe everything janet was saying he wanted to believe her and so he went along with it he did not tell john about his interactions with janet perhaps signaling that he didn't fully believe it and was maybe embarrassed to give away details but we don't know as soon as mark told janet he was prepared to work with her she made him swear an oath through the chat and then told him he would need to go to london for initiation where he'd be meeting the queen amongst other dignitaries and officials at this point mark asked a couple of qualifying questions namely how would i explain to my mom that i was just gonna suddenly leave for a couple of days in the middle of the week and miss school i have to give her a reason for that and she would say your mother will be looped in on this process in fact once you go to london for initiation we'll be in touch with her giving her progress reports on how you're doing and you'll have two opportunities every day to call her feeling satisfied that this was in fact legitimate he told janet okay you know when do you want me to go and she said well there's a caveat you have to pass a series of tests before you're going to be allowed to go to initiation this is where janet explained to mark why he specifically was being recruited she said his friend john was actually not named john his real name was james bell and he was a very very important person but she couldn't say why until he passed his first test and so mark's very confused by this and he says okay what's the first test and she says well you need to demonstrate you can protect your friend james bell and so i want you to escort him from his school to his dentist appointment tomorrow you're gonna be his bodyguard for one day but you can't let him know you're his bodyguard he can't know that you know his real identity so if you can do that successfully when you get back i will explain to you why he is so important at this point mark is very committed to this so he says yep i'll do it he reaches out to john that day and he says hey can we hang out tomorrow and john tells him yeah but i have a dentist appointment right after school so maybe after that and mark says oh don't worry i'll tag along for your dentist appointment and john's like great i could use the company so the next day mark meets up with john aka james bell and he walks with him from his school to his tennis appointment and he doesn't notice anything suspicious so he doesn't need to do any bodyguarding duties and after the dentist appointment the two of them just go to a mall and they spend the rest of the day together once mark got back to his house and opened his computer there was a message waiting for him from janet and the message said you know we had agents following you and you did a great job you passed your first test now i can tell you why james bell your friend john is so very important and she told him that at the bottom of the atlantic ocean is this big safe that only a couple of countries know about and inside of that safe is 568 billion pounds and it belongs to the queen but only one person has access to that safe and that person is james bell literally his body would need to be in front of the safe for a special scanner to scan him recognize it as james bell and then it would open its door despite its implausibility mark believed this was real not so much because he naturally believed the safe at the bottom of the atlantic ocean was real but it was because he totally believed janet was real janet had the ability to know what he was wearing where he had gone that day what he was up to i mean she seemed to know everything about him and it's because she told him she has agents monitoring him all the time disguised as bus drivers and teachers and mailmen that basically he was under constant surveillance and she explained to him that that's what happens when you're being recruited bro i'm this close from going to grab my kid phone and just throwing it across the like in a pond somewhere and just never having cell phones again bro computers are nothing bro this makes you oh bro i told y'all i got trust issues lots and lots of trust issues and this is not helping at all because it's not he not he's he's keeping it like oh my gosh bro oh that asians watch you so when janet gave mark his final test despite how shocked mark was at what he had to do he was willing to do it because he really believed he was doing it for the government the test was simple mark needed to kill john aka james bell and she explained to him that james bell actually had an inoperable brain tumor and he was gonna die any day and if the wrong country found out about this they could steal his body after he died and they could use his body to gain access to the safe and so we need to preemptively end his life take control of his body and get that safe open she told mark if he completed this test he would move on to the initiation phase in london where he would meet the queen and he would get his first paycheck of 80 million pounds and he would officially become janet's boyfriend mark is in so deep at this point he is fully committed and he says yes i'm prepared to do this and she says okay your new name is agent 47695 and you need to go buy a large knife she said there was going to be an abort code for this test which is going to be 6969 and if at any point he hears anybody say that to him on the day he's supposed to carry out this attack that means it's off and do not do it so on june 29th 2003 around 11 a.m mark and john aka agent 47695 and james bell met at a bus station in manchester mark took john down the alleyway that janet had instructed him to go down to commit the stabbing and she had assured him she would be one of the first people to arrive on scene she would be dressed as a detective and she would ensure he did not get arrested and so once he was in position mark turned around grabbed john by the shoulder pulled out his knife said he loved him and then began stabbing him when the police arrived janet was not there and mark after giving his statement about what happened was asking the police officers when's janet gonna be here and no one knew what he was talking about after john survived the attack and said mark was the one who attacked him mark would tell police you know you gotta find janet she's the one who can explain what's going on here but janet never arrived because janet didn't exist neither did rachel neither did kevin neither did james bell neither did 189 other accounts that mark interacted with on a daily basis inside of that chat room and all of those fake accounts were determined to be controlled by one person and that one person was john when john was confronted with all these confiscated chat logs that clearly showed he was behind all of these accounts he confessed john said he never entered this chat room in order to do any of the things he did or you know to manipulate mark he said when he joined he just saw a picture of mark and was kind of in love with him and wanted to get closer to him but didn't know how so he created rachel in order to get closer to mark what the oh i did not see that coming at all it was j john had his own and he stood there to get that what the f i'm literally losing it on this video bro but then became jealous of mark's love of rachel so he killed off rachel using kevin and he didn't expect mark to believe it he thought he would pick up that this is all made up when he's involving this stalker that's abducting and killing rachel but when he saw mark totally believed it john realized wow mark's pretty gullible i wonder what else i can get him to believe and before long he created janet who had complete control over mark and originally john was using janet to make mark spend more time with john he was going to be the bodyguard of james bell which was really john when john started to feel guilty about what he was doing to mark he realized there was no good way out of this without kind of exposing himself and definitely losing his friendship to mark something that in a weird way he really really cherished and so he decided that the only way to end this was for him to die and that's when he had janet flip the script from protect james bell to kill james bell and even on the day where he was going to get attacked he had given that abort code so maybe some part of him thought i don't necessarily want to go through with this but he never used the abort code he was literally prepared to die to protect that relationship with mark mark might have had suspicions that something was up with janet or even kevin or rachel but he never suspected john was behind any of these accounts he learned about this betrayal when they were in court and john is confessing once again to being behind all of these people that mark had been interacting with apparently in court when mark is hearing this for the first time he was just standing there mouth open just completely dumbfounded that he's hearing this and then he would say afterwards i've been such a fool mark was convicted of attempted murder but he only spent eight months in jail and then he was given a two-month probationary period where during that time he could only go on the internet with supervision and he wasn't allowed to enter into any chat room because the only thing he was guilty of of just being you know what i mean gullible just that's what he was guilty of just oh my gosh bro thank god she ain't have to i was wondering how much time they was gonna give him man you know john was convicted of inciting his own murder which no one else has ever been charged with so this is a first and he was not given any jail time but he was given three years of probation where in that time he was not allowed to use the internet without supervision and he also was not allowed to enter into any chat rooms and both boys wait what bro he john could have been killed that boy could have killed him that's all the time he was we're told they had a permanent restraining order on the other so for the rest of their lives they will never interact so that's gonna do it guys if you found the secret in today's episode let us know in my head is my head is hurting from this one bro [Music] whoa i mean oh i totally didn't see that coming and then the outcome just to hear the outcome that he don't he didn't even hardly receive no time that's scary that's frightening that's beyond belief these chat rooms are crazy and i i believe more crazy stuff like this goes on more often than we think man they need to start shutting some of this stuff down or monitoring it more heavily something something like i want to know is this story can somebody verify the truth to this story bro cause if this is is true like i think it is normally mr barlin is coming through with the true stories bro this is one for the books bro um um i'm sure this is this is one of the craziest ones i've ever heard man y'all get at me in the comment section bro i need a drink i need a drink i can't even lie to y'all i'm going to get a drink calm my nerves down man to the next reaction i'm out peace
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Length: 27min 26sec (1646 seconds)
Published: Mon Jun 14 2021
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