Did We Push Our Upgraded Turbo 460 BBF TOO FAR on the Dyno?!?! - Engine Power S11, E1

[Music] you're watching Power Nation today on engine power we give our turbocharged 460 big block some more durable parts and push it to the edge on the dyno oh St but do we push it too [Music] [Music] far welcome to a new episode and a new season of engine power and your eyes aren't deceiving you this is engine power but with a new look engine power has been going on for about 10 years now that's an entire decade of awesome engine builds and awesome content and we figured it could use an update even though it looks different the content is going to be just as good but we blew apart our shop so we could put new paint on the walls we have new shirts and most importantly we have a new logo I even got new pants for this and while we had the shop all apart getting paint on the walls we said hey let's do do a little bit of rearranging so we cleaned up the machines and switched their positions we move the lathe we move the mill and we move the hone now we can work more efficiently and we have that fresh clean new look but the coolest thing about all this rearranging is just look at all of this extra space we have there's so much room for activities yeah my uh my head's just spinning thinking about the possibilities I I have a few ideas please say yes please please please please please off chair activities ready hit [Applause] it high staks Uno oh you should probably stick to Building engines this game sucks don't get all mad about it and not so hot yoga I don't think I'm doing this right putting practice Shop movie theater sh my favorite part this is one of my favorite shows to kick things off here in the new shop we have brought back an old favorite this is our budget Ford 460 project we worked on a short time ago this engine made some downright impressive horsepower and torque numbers and we did it on pump gas we did it at low RPM and most important we did it on a tight budget although it ran great it is in here for some improvements but to get you caught up on this project and show you how we made those great numbers have a look at this we started out with a refreshed but all stock 60 over 460 big block the only modifications that were made were gapping the Rings a little bigger and upgrading the flat tap at valve springs for better control over the stock valve Trin we even use the stock EFI intake manifold and stock cast iron exhaust manifolds to make it as close as possible to a 460 you would find in a later model Ford we had to know what the engine made in its naturally aspirated form so we downed it with one of our 750 qfd carburetors and it pumped out a pretty decent 460 lb feet and 295 horsepower the real party started when we added a 78 mm turbocharger converted our carb to blow through and started adding some boosts at 8 PSI the big block was pushing a diesel level 724 lb feet and 494 horsepower now you can see that we really did put this engine together with stock componentry and it's extremely impressive that it lived on the dyno at that power level but that was on the dyno where we can control and monitor everything on the engine very closely if we were to put this in a project it's potentially one overheated pool away from sending that hyperic piston out the exhaust pipe so we definitely wanted to do some upgrades so that if it goes into a project it's dead reliable and can be beat on so at Summit Racing Equipment we actually found forg components so that this engine can take that power level with ease and the big key part of that is the Summit Racing hbam forg Rod a lot of the aftermarket big block Ford rods use a big block Chevy connecting rod Journal size small end size and connect Rod length but if we want to use that stock big block Ford crank to help keep the budget low then we needed a rod that was going to fit the stock specs and these fit the bill perfectly they have a 2500 big end a 1040 small end and use the stock big block Ford Center to Center length at 6 605 so that means it's easy to find an aftermarket piston to work with them they also are obviously way stronger than the stock I-beam rods and come with an 8740 ARP connecting rod cap screw bolt so that's a huge upgrade over the stock bolt as well the icon Pistons that we got are made of 2618 forged aluminum they have a 1/16th 1/16th 3/16th ring pack which is an upgrade over the stock Rings it has a similar compression height to the stock piston a little bit higher at 1772 it uses that 1040 wrist pin size like we were talking about and has a 15cc effective dish so our compression ratio will actually be very similar we're going to be filling those with a set of total seal piston rings so we'll have a rock solid bottom end for this engine now we laid out these parts so you can see some of the upgrades we're going to be doing but we can't touch any of this until we get that thing pulled apart next up we finished tearing down our 460 and get it prepped for reassembling and it's important to have a balanced diet and a balanced crank shaft mostly the balance crank shaft with all the piping removed and the Turbo off we are continuing on the tear down of our 460 now keep in mind this engine has to come all the way apart because we have some internal components to replace but as it comes apart we're going to evaluate how all the parts look remember this thing made a whole ton of power on stock components so we're going to see what they look like there are a few more ancillary pieces that have to come off before we can really get down to the nitty gritty after removing the crank pulley we'll pull off the water pump pulley as well while I pop the valve covers off P will go ahead and remove the stock style damper then we can remove most of the stock valve train keeping everything in order and inspecting its condition with the stock intake manifold pred off we can pull the flat tap it lifters out with a small pick keeping them in order as well we were hoping to leave these valve cover adapters sealed on the heads but one pesky head bolt won't come out with them in the way so we'll fry them off and clean them up for reuse finally we can lift off the heads and inspect the condition inside the cylinders these Chambers look really good now we were really safe on the tuneup but uh this is probably right on the edge of what you could do with this set up and that's one of the reasons we're putting a better piston in it cuz you go anywhere outside the normal bounds of operation and this thing's probably a you really close to hurting itself but uh the nice part about it is if you come over here and look at the BS the bores look actually spectacular for the power level and all that there's a really nice pronounced crosshatch they all look good the head gasket there's nothing that's pushing out in the head gasket so when we when you put when you put that kind of uh abuse to something and it still looks this good it makes me very very happy would I do it all the time no but uh we're going to be able to push it a little bit harder with our better Parts we'll continue disassembly with draining the oil removing the oil pan and taking off the timing cover even though this was a solid setup we will be replacing the timing set with a more adjustable one and swapping out the flat tapping cam shaft for a hydraulic roller so these parts will hit the shelf for now same goes for these stock rods and replacement Pistons which after gently tapping them out of the boards can be inspected yeah not bad at all thing looks pretty good and they took the power this thing made like a champ we round the corner on disassembly with the main caps coming off so the crank can be removed while Pat does some work to get the block prepped and clean for final assembly we're going to go ahead and balance our stock crankshaft now since we're using our stock crankshaft it is externally balanced on the front and rear and that means we not only need all of our rotating assembly but we also need our front counterweight damper and flywheel so we have everything we need so we're going to get our crank and our cwt multi 5500 and get to work oh this doesn't get any [Music] lighter to create our Bob weight we'll individually weigh each component and the Machine will automatically calculate our Target after building up four Precision Bob weights they are mounted on the center of each crank pin and we can do our first [Music] spin all right this is a great example of why you want to get your crank bounced when you start changing components we knew this was going to be way off we're at 1. 623 o in on the left and 7.23 3 1 oz in on the right that's because our new components are roughly 200 g lighter uh but no big deal we can get this fixed first thing we'll do is remove the front external counterweight and chck it up in the lathe so we can turn roughly 250,000 off of [Music] it then we can finish correcting the imbalance by using the drill head on the machine to remove material in stages until we are ready for our final [Music] spin all right so we're going to call that our last spin because this is now balanced well within our tolerance of quar ounce inch we're at92 o in on the left and .155 O in on the right and the really important thing is that they are 180° apart what that does is cancel out the forces on the center of the crank so on the center of the crank we're actually at 037 o inch so definitely minimized and it really shows that if you're changing components inside your engine it's really important that you get them Balan because before this crank even at 5,000 RPM had 321 lbs of force on the on the right side on the front and now we've minimized that down to just 6.89 lb so that's a huge difference we're very happy with that we're going to get it off get it clean and get it in the engine up next we move on to assembly putting our heavy Duty Parts into our big block 460 and then it's going to get run on the dyno after a whole bunch more work ready send it we're on to assembly of our turbo 460 big block Ford I'm setting the end gaps on these total seal piston rings at 26,000 on the top and 28,000 on the second following total seals recommendations for our turbocharged application and I am setting up the rod bearing clearance on our new Summit H beam rods the mains have already been done we've done that last time so what I'm going to do is set up our new rod bearing clearance between 23 and 28 10,000 for our application so once we get that all done we're going to start clicking this engine together once we're ready for assembly we can lay the like new main bearings into the block and Lube them up doesn't get any lighter have to be really gentle with it nice and slow it's in each of the Caps are installed and our new ARP main bolts are torqued to 100 lb feet with all the rod and piston assemblies lubed up they can be installed with an adjustable ring compressor the ARP Rod bolts are broken loose and then torqued to 63 lb feet to achieve proper clamp load the cam is an off-the-shelf comp hydraulic roller with durations at 50,000 lift of 218° on the intake and 224° on the exhaust low Sear ER ation is 110 and lifted the valve with our rockers is 522,000 on the intake and 521 th000 on the exhaust with the oil Gallery plugs installed the stock cam retaining plate can be torqued in place this comp Cam's 9 keyway adjustable timing set is a huge upgrade and allows us to degree the cam in where we want we'll set the intake Center Line at 108.5 the timing cover front counter weight water pump and monic damper can seal up the front end and we can flip the engine over this new high volume oil pump is the start of our upgraded oiling system we're going to be replacing the stock pan with an upgraded milodon one and we're going to be using the matching pickup but something that we didn't actually account for is that we thought this was going to mount like a stock Ford pickup on top of the Stock main bolt which has a short standoff to bolt it down on but actually mildon accounted for using aftermarket fasters in your engine so the pickup actually mounts underneath the head of the bolt so we're going to be be pulling out this Stock main bolt and replacing it with the last ARP Bolt from our main bolt kit which is awesome cuz now we have highquality matching main Fasteners throughout the engine a small amount of silicone in the critical areas and a onepiece oil pan gasket will keep the new 4x4 pan sealed on the engine these MLS 4500 more 40,000 thick head gas CS give us a measured compression ratio of a boost friendly 8.49 to1 the beefy ARP head bolts are PED in three stages to a final value of 140 lb feet we've soaked these comp Cam's retrofit hydraulic roller lifters in oil for about an hour before slipping them into the lifter boards in the correct orientation then we can slide in the 8100 long push rods and install the 1.73 ratio scorpion bolt down rocker arms in the firing order of the engine beads of silicone seal the valley cover and it is bolted to the China walls before the intake gaskets and intake adapters are secured to the heads the new intake manifold we have chosen for our application is an edel Brock performer RPM air gap compared to the old fuy intake it is drastically different has a larger Runner with a larger cross-sectional area and a larger in deeper plenum now combined with that new cam shaft that has a hydraulic roller profile and has more lift and duration we're going to see a nice bump and power both naturally aspirated and when we put this thing under artificial atmosphere with our valve cover adapters sealed back down and some spray lube on the valve train we can put our valve covers back on and seal up the top of our engine another part of getting this engine ready to go into a future project is getting a front drive so we reached out to the guys at cvf racing and they hooked us up with one of their Serpentine conversion kits for a big block Ford with the stock exhaust manifolds reinstalled this big block can make its way into the Dino cell up next we finally get our turbo 460 on the dyno but but all our hard work goes up in smoke all right so we have our 460 on the dyno and we have it running with all of our new upgrades and one of the other changes we made was switching from the carburetor we ran last time to a sniper xflow unit now this thing has four 120 lb injectors so it's going to be plenty of fuel for the power level we're going to be making but we've been making some preliminary pools letting it learn getting it up to Temp uh tuning on it just a little bit and we think we have it right where we want it so we're going to make a power pool and see what this thing makes with its new [Music] upgrades nice very nice yeah right out to 5500 I thought I saw some good numbers there I think that's uh pretty good ooh is that a nice graph or what yeah 48.9 lb feet so we're up on tourque and yeah freaking 3675 right at 4700 so definitely yeah higher higher Peaks on a a little bit higher Peak on torque a little bit higher Peak on horsepower in terms of RPM range but we're way up on power well that that's not bad because you know the thing with it where it was so before this thing aages 295 Peak horsepower right so we're at 367 and you can see like the torque it doesn't lose any it just holds it right where it is and then about 2500 just goes up starts to separate so I mean I'm happy with that I think that's awesome we we obviously making more na so we going to make more with turbo all right enough talk more action more turbo stuff after flipping our exhaust manifolds around we can install the same doyo tested turbo setup from last time which features a 78 mm VSS racing turbo twin 50 mm Summit wastegates and a diesel truck charged air cooler all right we are in turbo mode now we have the engine on got it fired up got it warmed up everything seems to be great uh all we're really worried about is getting it to the same RPM range that we did when we're running it naturally aspirated so we're going to be making our pulls up to 5,500 like we were before this is going to be an interesting test because all we did was we have a a slightly better Cam and a better intake manifold and obviously a sniper yeah and we have our more durable parts so we'll probably be pushing this a little bit harder we're going to see as we go the internet says this thing will make all kinds of Power cranks are good for 1,000 horsepower blah blah blah I'm not sure but we're also on pump gas like that is a big limiting factor here CU once we start making a lot of cylinder pressure that pump gas is going to be the the link in the chain that's the weakest so um same RPM suep uh right on the waste Gates like just like we did last time starting off so we'll see what she makes good [Music] yeah wow legs are all the way out to 5500 too very very smooth that was good very oh man that's nice 528 horse 718 that's crazy it's spiking up in the eights but uh past uh you know all up to 5500 it's still it's 7.3 lb of boost which is right where we were before so nice level I mean it is like goes nice and flat yeah yeah I mean it carries power all so air fuels all look fine let's go ahead and make a poll right now see how much more once you start building heat in the turbo housing it's going to spool up a little bit different it's going to it's just it's going to make more power so hey let's uh let's let's see what it does let's put a little bit in and see what happens go go put a few clicks in it like you did last time and see what she does I'm going to do it all right I got a couple of Clicks in it oh boy a couple meaning four [Music] oh did it Blow though a it broke our oil line broke our oil line our oil line that feeds the oil pressure sensor in the dyo tower got a little hot a little melty and uh puked oil out everywhere but easy fix cut it off put a new end on after cleaning up our oily mess we're ready to try [Music] again oh snap that's down nice nice [Music] nice oh my God that's that's a that's that's that's nice power right there oh snap 568 Hors look at the torque oh my God 769 lb check the boost on that one 9 and a half that's what we ran last time so I mean there's not a ton of like you know crazy highend Parts in this thing so I mean you could put a $3,000 set of heads on it but yeah I mean and at this boost level it'll it'll make a thousand but yeah it make more I'm super stoked about this I I don't think we have to go anymore I'm good all right well you're when when you're in that seat you get to make the calls so nice job good job great Su ass for more high power engine builds like this one you can find engine power on power Nation

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Length: 21min 27sec (1287 seconds)

Published: Sat Jan 06 2024