MATHEMATICALLY, FOR WHY THAT IS SO. BUT AGAIN, LET ME JUST UNDERSCORED THIS AND THEN ALEX, I KNOW YOU GONNA JUMP IN HERE. BUT NBC HAS RELEASED ITS HOUSE MODEL. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS A PROJECTION OVERALL OF HOUSE CONTROL, THAT THE PROJECTION HAS THAT PLUS AND MINUS 13 SEATS THERE. 218 SEATS AS A MAJORITY. THEY ARE PROJECTING 219 SEATS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE WITH A MARGIN OF ERROR OF PLUS OR MINUS 9:13 STATES. NBC DESK DECISION NEWS, PROTECTING THAT WE WILL NOT KNOW HOW TO CONTROL AT THE CONCLUSION OF TONIGHT. AND IF YOU MEAN TONIGHT BY 90 SECONDS FROM, NOW SURE, THAT'S NOT A TYPICAL PROJECTION TO MAKE, BUT WHAT THEY MEAN IN THE OVERNIGHT HOURS, TONIGHT. ALEX? >> STATE, WHETHER THE DEMOCRATS HOLD A HOUSE, CAN I ASK YOU JUST TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT HISTORICALLY, WITH WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, RIGHT? FROM MY ROUGH MATH, IT SEEMS BIDEN COULD BE PRESIDING OVER A HISTORICALLY STRONG SHOWING VIS-À-VIS WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS TO INCUMBENT PRESIDENTS AND PARTIES THAT ROLE MAJORITY. >> I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION! BY THE WAY, WE WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, OUR DECISION DESK HAS OFFICIALLY CALLED NORTH CAROLINA'S 13 DISTRICT, SO THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC GAIN. AGAIN, WE HAVE SEEN YOU KNOW BY FIVE OR SIX REPUBLICAN GAINS, THIS IS THE SECOND DEMOCRATIC GAINS. SO THE MATH STARTS TO COME INTO FOCUS, WILL COME MORE INTO FOCUS. IN TERMS OF THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT FOR SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION, THERE ARE TWO MIDTERM ELECTIONS WHERE THE PRESIDENTS PARTY HAS ACTUALLY GAINED SEATS IN THE HOUSE. EACH TIME IT WAS SINGLE DIGITS, IT WAS 1998 WITH BILL CLINTON, THE SECOND MIDTERM, IT WAS 2002 WITH GEORGE W. BUSH AND HIS FIRST MIDTERM. BOTH OF THOSE PRESIDENTS HAD EXTREMELY HIGH APPROVAL RATINGS ON ELECTION DAY. BILL CLINTON'S APPROVAL RATINGS IN THE 1990S EXIT POLL WAS 68%. IF YOU REMEMBER AT THE TIME, HOUSE REPUBLICANS WERE IMPOSING AN IMPEACHMENT AGAINST HIM. THERE WAS WIDE PUBLIC OPPOSITION, THERE WAS A BACKLASH THAT RESULTED IN APPROVAL RATING FOR CLINTON, OF NEARLY 70%, AND DEMOCRATIC GAINS IN THAT MIDTERM ELECTION. IN 2002, GEORGE W. BUSH CARRIED A 63% APPROVAL RATING INTO THE ELECTION, REMEMBER, IT WAS A YEAR AFTER 9/11. SO THAT UNITY BEHIND BUSH AND THE NATION AND REPUBLICANS MANAGED TO GAIN EIGHT SEATS IN THE HOUSE IN 2002. JOE BIDEN'S APPROVAL RATING IN OUR POLL, IT IS ABOUT EVERY OTHER, POLL IT'S RIGHT AROUND THIS COMING INTO THIS ELECTION IS 44%. DONALD TRUMP'S APPROVAL RATING IN 2018 WHEN HIS PARTY LOST 40 SEATS WAS 45%, IN OUR, POLL BARACK OBAMA'S APPROVAL RATING ON HIS PARTY LOST 63 SEATS, IN 2010, WAS ABOUT 43%. BILL CLINTON'S APPROVAL RATING IN HIS PARTY LOST 54 SEATS IN 1994 WAS 46%. BIDEN'S NUMBER -- HIS APPROVAL RATING WAS RIGHT IN THE RANGE WHERE PRESIDENTS ARE WHEN THE PARTY TAKES IT ON THE CHIN. >> YES! >> YES! >> AND YOU COMPOUND THAT WITH THE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE ECONOMY THAT IS COMING THROUGH EVERY POLL. I KNOW IN OUR EXIT POLL, THERE'S A TIGHTER MARGIN THERE BETWEEN ECONOMY AND ABORTION, BUT ECONOMY STILL RANKS NUMBER ONE AND THE MOOD ON THE ECONOMY, AND OUR FINAL NBC POLL WAS 81% OF VOTERS EXPRESSING DISSATISFACTION WITH THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY. THE CONTEXT WHERE THAT WAS, THE LAST TIME THAT NUMBER WAS THAT HIGH WAS 2009, 2010, IT WAS THE PRELUDE TO BARACK OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS GETTING ABSOLUTELY CLOBBERED IN THE 2010 MIDTERM ELECTIONS. SO WE WILL SEE WHERE THIS LANDS. THE REPUBLICANS MAY GET CONTROL OF THE HOUSE STILL, THEY MAY GET THE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A PAD. THAT'S THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO FOR REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S ALSO A SCENARIO WHERE DEMOCRATS HOLD THE HOUSE AND ONLY LOSE MAYBE TWO OR THREE SEATS. AND THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE DEMOCRATS HOLD THE HOUSE AND ACTUALLY GAIN SEATS. AND SO I -- I THINK GIVEN THE HISTORY THAT I JUST LAID OUT THERE, THE FACT THAT THAT IS WHAT WAY WE ARE SITTING RIGHT, NOW THAT'S THE RANGE OF POSSIBILITY, IT SUGGEST THAT WE SORT OF HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THE RULES OF POLITICS ARE ABOUT HOW MIDTERMS ELECTIONS KIND OF AUTOMATICALLY YOU KNOW, REPRESENT THIS BACKLASH OF RULING PARTY. WE MAY JUST BE LIVING IN NEW POLITICAL ERA RIGHT NOW. WHERE YOU JUST HAVE MASSIVE -- ENOUGH FEATURE OF TONIGHT, WE HAVE A MASSIVE, MASSIVE HISTORICAL UNPRECEDENTED TURNOUT IN THESE ELECTIONS. THESE -- THIS IS NUMBER THE NUMBER THAT ARE GONNA GET IN THESE MULTI-MILITIAS WHAT A PATH FOR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TURNOUT. NOT THAT LONG AGO. AND SO WE JUST MAYBE IN AN ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE SO TUNED IN, SO PLUGS INTO POLITICS, AND THEY KNOW WHICH SIDE THERE ON, AND THEY KNOW WHICH SIDE THEY'RE AGAINST. AND IT BEING MOTIVATED, IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRATIC INCLINES VOTER, YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN MOTIVATED BASED ON ALL THOSE POLLS NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE SHOWED, YOU TO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF JOE BIDEN, TO VOTE FOR BIDEN'S POLICIES, ABOUT WHAT DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE -- BUT YOU MAY ALSO BE MOTIVATED TO KEEP THE REPUBLICANS FROM GETTING POWER. YOU MAY BE MOTIVATED BY -- AND THIS KEPT COMING UP IN OUR POLLING, THIS LABEL, THREATS TO DEMOCRACY, AS AN ISSUE THAT VOTERS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND OUR POLLING, THERE WAS OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC VOTERS WHO ARE GIVING THAT ANSWER. I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS RAISED BY THESE RESULTS IS, THE LOOMING PRESENCE OF DONALD TRUMP, HIS FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER SO MANY OF THESE REPUBLICAN CANDIDACIES WHERE HE WAS IN THE NEWS, ON ELECTION MORNING TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN IN 2024. IF THAT'S IN THE MINDS OF DEMOCRATIC INCLINED VOTERS WHO ARE NOT THAT NICE ABOUT JOE BIDEN, THAT MIGHT MOTIVATE THEM TO COME OUT AND VOTE. THAT MIGHT HAVE MOTIVATED THEM TO COME OUT AND VOTE IN THIS ELECTION. BUT THIS IS -- THIS IS LOOKING LIKE, IN TERMS OF THE TURNOUT, IN
