Debunking the 3 Vegan Arguments Against Meat Eating - Nutrition, Environment, Ethics (highlights)

[Music] hello hello yeah so cows can save the world which is probably the exact opposite that most people have heard if you listen to mainstream media or any of these movies on netflix so the current perceptions are red meat is harmful to human health cows are harmful to the environment and it's unethical to kill animals for food so these are the major three things that antibed activists will tell you vegan propaganda will tell you and it turns out that actually none of them are really true once you dig into them so we're going to go one by one through those so i believe that cows can save human health red meat is a superfood people like to talk about you know berries from amazon or you know some like wacky little you know gimmick that they try to make money on but really the superfood is animal foods and we we've known this for all of history so this is a big question to me most people know that me was crucial in development as humans yet we're told today that somehow it's bad for us it's really interesting how that works where you you ask the same person this and they'll say yeah you know i see the cave paintings yeah we ate animals but then they're like oh yeah but it's bad for you like why why is red meat bad for you they can't tell you so when you start looking at the other side of things you know we can show correlation between oh you know people who eat fruits and vegetables are healthy people who eat grains might be healthy but that doesn't tell us that the grains are healthy when you when you look at the opposite side what about the reverse correlation so that's really interesting when you look at asian populations because they don't have this negative image of red meat and so in hong kong they eat the most meat in the world they the most animal foods in the world and guess what they also have the longest life expense expectancy so this is a very hard one for these antsy meat people to explain right why would that be so this is a great study too that the the risk of mortality for total meat intake and provided evidence of an inverse association with red meat so this is another great example of why we can't use these correlational studies to try to say that meat is bad so here's the graph of all the modern hunter gatherers that we study 73 of these societies got over 50 of their diet from animal foods and of course none of them were vegan zero so in my journeys you know talking to a ton of people over 150 people i talked to dr david clerfeld who's a member of the working group that decided meat was a carcinogen and i did a long podcast with him i had special clearance to do this with him and he told me they were there was a ton of vegans and vegetarians on the panel they were ignoring evidence that they did not have the the interests of science in mind they purposely did not look at studies so here we have a visualization of what happened they there was actually only 15 studies that showed that redmi were good and 14 that showed red wheat were bad i mean it's basically a toss-up so there's also the this difference between the relative risk and the absolute risk and so just an example the after all these studies they looked at they only found that the median cancer had a 0.18 risk factor but then when we looked at cigarettes and cancer when we looked at the epidemiology it was 10 to 30 risk factors so this is something that we should look more into so what what the real problem is and i think everyone here kind of knows this it's the processed foods right we look at the foods we've been eating for all of history and we're trying to blame them now for some reason when look at the foods that just came into existence you know maybe maybe that's a problem so what is regenerative agriculture what does that mean how does it work well when grass grows there's a life cycle and there's an optimum grazing point where we want the cows to be eating the grass right at that that cross section so it doesn't want to be too old but it wants to be just right in the the age when it's the most nutritious but also it's been it's going to be stimulated by those cows eating it and it will grow again so this so this is called rotational grazing right when we're going to eat the grass and the timing of it is very important so this mimics nature right so this is looks kind of like what you know the ancient bison might have looked like years ago and they they're in packs and they move on the land and they eat the grass and then they move right and they move on and it lets it rest and grow back so now we can do that with simple things like this electric fence it's solar powered and you can manage a lot of livestock with a simple little wire so this is what it would look like you could start the cows in the top right and you move them each day by the time you get them back around the grass is is ready to go again and this does amazing this is how this is like the basics of why rotational grazing works so there's a guy named alan savory that i actually just interviewed and might visit in zimbabwe who's doing this on a global scale and he's been doing this for since 1960s really he's talking about holistic management and this is the stuff that happens when you when you correctly put cows on grass desertification happens when cows are not on land so this is example of them you know just using more cattle on the same area i don't know exactly how many years this was but they actually do the opposite of what the vegans will have you think that they actually improve the soil and they help grow grass back so we have a huge amount of cropland in the world people say oh well there's not enough not enough land to do this this is great regenerative farming is great but we don't have enough land to do this well we actually do for one if we don't use all this crop land for corn wheat and soy which we know is not healthy for us we could use some of this land for cows and then also here is some of this rangelands so vegans will also like to say oh there's so much land used for animal agriculture it's terrible it's like no it's actually good like we said if like alan savory has shown he did amazing ted talk by the way that you can check out that animals ruminants on grass help the soil and this lands cannot be used otherwise here's another topic that's really hard to get into because it's personal right it's ethics i don't want to eat meat because i believe it's bad so i'm going to have tara couture an amazing farmstead up she has her own farm she raises all her own animals by hand from scratch she loves them and let's play this video real quick this is from this is not exactly from food lies but on our farm we have some pigs that do their piggy thing in the forest we have ducks that live on a pond and we have meat rabbits and turkeys and chickens and we have both meat and dairy cattle that are all just solely grass-fed including the dairy cattle and we raise our animals from when they're born until when they die you know this idea that we can unplug from death that we can not be a part of this horrible machine of death by opting out by not eating animals to me i believe that's a stunted thought we get to the point of discomfort because something had to die for us to live and so we stop there and decide well therefore i'm going to back up and not eat whatever had to die for me to get there well everything has death around it anything that's alive had to die for you to eat we can say that the natural world has always had it figured out and that we can be in that system and we can mimic systems so that we can have food like with ruminants moving through and stuff like that or we can say i don't like death so i'm not going to eat things that have to die and so i'm just going to eat foods that are not from an animal unfortunately to do that you have to destroy entire ecosystems to grow your food and i cannot tell you about the amount of life that's around us right now there's all sorts of birds there's toads there's snakes there's bears back there there's coyotes back there and that's just the stuff on the surface like we're not even talking about what's going on in the soil and everything else that's around us so in order for me to grow the food that will not kill anything i'll have to kill all this i'm going to have to strip the soil i'm going to have to level everything out i'm going to have to steal water out of vast aquifers so that we can irrigate the out of this place because it's not going to have any water retention possibility anymore i am going to take all the fertility of the soil because to level this i've got to do that i will end up with a moonscape it's death in a plate there's just no blood it's the same thing times a million it's much worse it's not one animal that who lives a good life who moves through within a biodiverse system who contributes to that system the way that whoever created all this figured out long before us much smarter than us and that is is contributing and is part of it just like we should be part of it we should be part of this too we're here we're gone and while we're here we need to be living as close as we possibly can to how we're supposed to be living and that includes our diets every time she says that line i i get the chills and it really it's really emotional for me it's death on a plate there's just no blood this is one of the main things i wish the anti-meat activists would understand is there is no life without death this is a harmonious cycle this is how nature works you can't get outside of it you can stick your head in the sand and pretend you're not killing something but that's not how nature works 55 scented animals lies lost to produce 100 kilograms of usable plant protein that's 25 times more killings than to produce the same amount of brainland rangelands beef over half the mice taken by predators after harvest plus 80 percent decrease in population so either they're killed immediately or they starve to death because they don't have their food source anymore so there's so many more examples of this of people probably heard this by now of animals getting chopped up in the combines or we were diverting huge waterways to create this land to grow mono crops and it kills ecosystems so many animals die that we can't even calculate from the way we do mono crops corn wheat and soy so the biggest question here is what is the alternative right so this is the big ethical argument is well we need an alternative we can't just live off of air so part of the story is that animals are gonna die in nature either way and it's not a good death animals don't just die of old age in an old person's old cows home and you know get like all their little meals for them and some morphine if they're feeling bad they get eaten alive or they get sick and die and or they starve to death so that there is no alternative like if you think about this ethical argument you have to think about the alternative you can't just think well i don't want an animal to die for me to eat because that's not the question there's another idea here that we could do cell-based meat plant-based you know slop we'll throw together in a factory this does not work either there are so many inputs if you think about all the refrigeration all the shipped in ingredients the chemicals the preservatives all the stuff that's going on to make this meat it's it's actually more i think if you actually look at all the inputs than it would take to just use regular beef or let alone regenerate regeneratively grown beef you can throw a cow on a pasture you have sun you have grass and you have food so i think this is a terrible idea and this is the wrong direction we should be going in so here's another thing we're kind of in this little world you know where we're in america where we have nice air conditioning and this nice conference but on a worldwide scale livestock helps the billion poorest people the most and we can't ignore this they they rely on these animals for their livelihood i mean and they would think it's absurd for you to tell them that oh eating meat is bad for you or what are you doing that's bad for the environment like hey i'm trying to survive i'm trying to feed my family what are you talking about so here's here's one more we have another this alternative people don't ever think about this the products made from cattle you think oh yeah we just get beef and they're like doing all these calculations oh look how much water it takes okay what about all the products that we also make from the from the animal we use the bones we use to hide none of the animal is wasted i mean it's amazing how many are there's more than this i don't know if it's too small for to read but there are probably hundreds and hundreds of products they would all have to take synthetic inputs we'd be using fossil fuels we'd be using plastics we'd be using all these other things to try to accomplish this and that is the exact opposite of what we want to do so basically the message is cows can save the world they save human health as we present doctor eads did a great job of showing us how through all of history this is what we've been eating and it continues to be a human health food cows can save on health care costs if we just all started maybe eating more beef and maybe we replace the cereal or the bread with some more beef i'm saying everyone has to be a carnivore no we don't have to be shawn baker you know crushing steaks for breakfast but we can we can replace some of these harmful foods and we can change our health they can change the environment we can use this land in a different way we instead of cornway and soy we have the land we have millions and millions of acres if we could figure out a system some sort of incentive system where farmers could be rewarded for use you know some people call like a carbon credit where if you regenerate the soil then we can give these people compensation for that instead of giving them subsidies for growing chlorine soil we can give them subsidies to change their operation to use animals use regenerative agriculture rotational grazing holistic management whatever you want to talk about call it and then lastly is ethical part is there really is no alternative and it's just an it's an absurd thought it's sort of this pie in the sky like ideal that you know like a vegan in a coffee shop will you know tell some other vegan in a coffee shop that has never visited a farm has never you know seen this i i've been to these farms i know these people they they love their animals they care for them it's their number one priority to keep them healthy of course it is it's how they make a living and of course they're not insane psychopaths they don't want to hurt animals so i think the main problem is the disconnection between nature and humans living in cities and tara couture the lovely woman who i interviewed is writing a book about death and she thinks this is the this is like the biggest thing is that we are disconnected from death if we were all these problems in society are kind of around meat are basically because we are so disconnected in the past before a child would even learn to talk they would have seen dozens of deaths there they would have seen their family kill a chicken or a cow for their food and it'd be part of their life now we have vegans in coffee shops trying to say that it's somehow not human and they're trying to rewrite history and that's that's it that's my message i think we should um not listen to them and i think i'm making a film called food lies and we will be exploring all of these things thank you

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Length: 17min 53sec (1073 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 10 2020