Curator Q&A #9: Chobham Armour | The Tank Museum

well hello again it's David Willy the curator from the Tank Museum and I'm here for with I think this must be about online question-and-answer session and yet the game beautiful day here in England and the sun's out I've got the dog with me and if he's out of shot and in fact sorry I was foolish they brought the ball in keep him busy so if you're new to this we are answering question answer sessions people are posting questions and I'm trying to find answers for you tank museums close we're going through that preparation at the moment about planning how we're going to open and reopen when exactly so watch this space and if you're interested I've also got some of the things that we sell in our shop we're an independent charity and what we're trying to do is also get you guys out there and girls to buy something from our shop and that helps us key keeps us going as a charity at this particular time and again I would like to say thank you so much so a lot of you I know you've been buying things like the Tiger beer like books like all sorts of bits and pieces and I've got a couple of other good ideas what with Father's Day coming up that you might want to sort of either if you're the bloke or the dad drop hints or ideas of things you might gather by that if you haven't bought them already but as ever thank you very very much those you are supporting us so on with the questions so let's have a look at what people have been asking us someone called Panther 590 asks why did the UK share Chobham armor with Germany in the USA when it was secret this dates back to actually 1970s Chobham armor is a laminate armor that is a very very clever system very effective has a number of components in there still officially in the UK top secret what happens the Americans were putting together the XM one program hadn't fitted it to an in-service tank yet in Britain but there was design process it was going on for a number of other vehicles at the time including one that was going to be built for the Shah of Iran that would have had Chopin in as well what happens is the Americans on a visit are shown Chobham and that means they go back and actually reach ange their plans for what becomes the abrams and Chobham is included in that and basically the rule was or not the rule so much it was we were sharing don't forget this is a time of NATO still a time where the big threat was from the Warsaw Pact Soviet Union and the idea that we were sharing ideas to a certain degree technology etc and so if this was going to make an Allies tank better yes we did do that it's interesting because of course they're not ever published what those levels of cooperation are and to what degree only comes out historically what was done and I believe and again this is if you go to different sources different people say the Germans were brought in on the the Chopin sort of information as well but other parties weren't which is quite interesting as well so it's that idea about you know who you think you can not so much word trust but who you think you want to bring onboard and and again when you think about it logically there's no point giving certain types of tank information to non tank deploying countries so you know if they're not building tanks or anything they don't need to know some of these things but yes we did it was shared with it was obviously done a very high level because of this being top secret you know they and if you notice on you you know we got documents the archive it says things I UK Canada only or UK eyes only so those different levels of what type of material ideas technology can be shared and where it can't be shared but Cobham has been obviously has gone through subsequent developments and even though we tend to use that as a very generic term for certain types of laminate armor actually what's being used now is very different to that old original specification Chobham so hope answers that one let's move on someone says here if we could choose some more Soviet era tanks what will we go for throw the ball again for Finn what would we be going for we do have a wish list and on that wish list I think there's some vehicles we know we're never going to get a complete line-up I mentioned things like you know t44 so during the course of when they were building t-34s before they went on to the t-34 85 they're almost the evolutionary development of the turret with the 85 millimeter gun they actually thought about building a completely separate tank called the t44 they were built in smallish numbers etc that's one of those ones in that Soviet design philosophy it's a real step change from the t-34 series all the way they looked so it goes across to things like it's got torsion bar suspension it's got gets rid of the co-drivers position it's got a different shape and we're starting to get that recognizable frying-pan shape turret that then leads on and you see more pronounced in the t54 tank so that you know eeveelution me for Soviet stuff t44 they were actually with limited production runs so it's not just those one or two prototypes around out tomorrow so one of those for example will be really interesting not core to our story I would argue you know but it's fascinating to see that but what would be really cool to our story is one of those late war Soviet tank like a js2 or js3 and then of course something like a t10 tank because they influence what the West's way of approaching armor and what the potential threat in that Cold War is going to be so those are tanks that I do think would would really you know be high on our adjust and we've we've made efforts to try and get a hold of a js2 or js3 and and again you know these things it's not not impossible they might happen we're missing a t-64 at the moment I think there are a couple around the place in the UK that we might may end up getting one of those and of course when you're talking about that Soviet era stuff leading onto things that at some point will probably end up you know a t-80 and all the later ones but the idea at the moment because of the embargo sanctions etc the chances of us doing any sort of swap with the Soviet Union or Soviet Union Russia as it is now is it's pretty limited but there are other countries Ukraine etcetera where there's other vehicles sitting around the place and that may be possible to do these things so so at the same time I come back to other questions and answer sessions we do have to be careful about space we are just already even though we built that lovely great big vehicle Conservation Center already would shock her in there we're really full and so the idea of just thinking all that would be lovely to her that we it's got to really get over a big old threshold before we add yet another thing the size of a whole tank to the collection unless it's going to be of another use for us in another way so that that's a sort of things so yeah there's quite a number of soviet air vehicles that you know would still be quite quite interesting for us to try and acquire and you know one of those countries obviously russia now is carrying on building material be Nicaea you know a martyr one day wouldn't it i somebody asked a question about my bookshelves wanting to have a look in there i people commenting how mister they all are you saw nothing you want to see the other room with them all over the place so i you know maybe at some point I'll try and get the camera along the shelves for you and everything but I did takes me straight onto one of the books I've got on my shelf everything I put up some more shells at the weekend had a bit of a sort to try and then tidy things up I'm still very round and I never quite put things together like a library but one thing that what did interest me was you know people always interested in what books I've got on my shelf this was one we've got in the shop and you can see it's all still cellophane wrapped and everything that's one that actually know to get off my shelf this is my copy to show you because I've mentioned it before sometimes I think it's worth spending a little bit extra on the book with the really good quality images in that are printed well and to a good size and it just so happens a cat he's really good as well so these guys know what they're on about and that's where I would recommend so there's one of those books there I've taken this one this is my copy off my shelf I've bought it's part of a series but they're looking at those Tiger heavy tank battalions and I know lots you out they love Tiger tanks and everything but those are ones where they particularly got good quality prints where he produced well captioned and a good size so if your model maker you're particularly interested in certain vehicles and everything rather than a slightly gray blurry shot or badly produced one or as I've said before sometimes the cheaper end of the market sometimes it's great other times you think well hang on I've to spend all that money getting one or two new images and they weren't very good printing is either that so that's one if you've got the money available that's one I'd strongly recommend if you like your tiger tanks great and it's part of a series where they're following the tiger units and as many images they can on that unit in those different areas of their fighting and here we go again I've lost the ball golfing so onto another question richard mayer hawthorne idea of showing the designer tank from specification to production one actually it's something if you go to our museum when you have the opportunity to or if you have the opportunity that's what we do in the tank Factory so you really want to see that exhibition there which is where we've got certain types of vehicles where you see that evolution development got a drawing office got other things we've got the lineup of you know prototype vehicles we've got something that's about three fours and then there of fair it's about you know three four Centurions that idea of showing how things develop and how they're put together that's the whole idea of that whole haul so if you've got the opportunity Richard that's exactly what we do in that tank factory to show how how things are put together and developed and built as a as a tank Chris abran asks the question about drawing the vehicles he was you know the idea of if he were trying to replicate something one to one but the ball down buried down good boy fit drop it drop he's no interested in anything no right you stay there then so yes so he else a question about have we got the plans and would we make those plans available yes we do this already the archive and library sadly closed at the moment we do things and we've done them for a number of years for mainly for modelers things called planned packs which are lots of the diagrams drawings etc to scale that we've got on individual vehicles but we also have a stunning archive of theses with the blueprints and original blueprints that were copied from most of the FE series of vehicles British ones we've got some other countries blueprints summer sadly you know not survive that well some ones ones will photograph captured documents photographed put in the archive different standards sometimes on those ways so the key answer is if your interest in a particular vehicle when the archives back up and running ask us it may take time because of course copying some of those features getting the drawings done they're not all just sitting there they're not all digitized is doing that it's just not that easy with the staffing and the amount of time it takes it cetera so but we can probably do that and that'll be one of those interesting things as we touched on doing replicas and everything in the future is one of those drawings useful and that's another thing I know some of you doing there any drawing sometimes can be helpful just giving measurements but one of the really interesting one is is this confusion and complexity of taking an original blueprint and turning it into something like a CAD drawing or something that's actually usable today and even that's not just that simple process there's quite a bit that goes on there but having that original drawing for whether it was for the manufacturer or other ones that that can really really help obviously and and we have a stunning collection in the archive there as I mentioned with the British tank museum that's where the main areas Holdings is but we've also got drawings in a lot of other areas as well so it's always worth asking us the question and inevitably I would say we charge for that you know because obviously we it's if we're going to do that service it means we've got to employ someone to do all that copying etc so there will be a fee for charging for those things Marcel Q says have you ever fired a tank gun and what's the most impressive tank gun you fired careful what I say here no I've never fired I've never certainly fired a tank gun in anger liver fired one on the range you'll find other things but not a tank gun so I can't really tell you what's most impressive having said that of being a lot of live firings and as any of you know if you've been around a real tank when it's fired we have ammunition its shocked at all or all those phrases that come out it's very hard you know when you look at footage and photographs and everything else what's that you know when you feel the ground shake when you fill your lungs go et cetera all of those other elements that whatever however clever we are is very hard to get a cross of the sensation of a tank and of course some of those things are what make up a tank being the weapon system it is in other words it's psychological impact you hear that noise of that garden hear the engines hear the tracks wave moves all of that is a part of its impact which is back to and the other arguments and that's not the question you ask but one of the other things when people say you know do we really need tanks anymore etc etc we may not in some circumstances but quite often people take a tank because it here presents its threat its ability its noise demonstrating it means it it gives you that edge and people tend to back off so it's again it's another one of those systems in the year in the armory that you hope you don't have to use but just having it there makes people sort of you know not necessarily want to challenge you I'm gonna have a surfer mighty sorry I'm trying to do this a little bit early in the morning so the sun's in a slightly different direction here but it's another lovely day so some of my team I I love tanks mug and I know of you all around the world if you do want your tea nice tea ration tin this particular one I believe is Salam t that we've got in there from our shop but we've got other types of tea as well so have a look there and there's nice nice setting for you to use afterwards and it even gives you on the back there instructions for how to make tea because I know everybody makes it in different ways in Britain we tend to do it put a milk tea and some people put sugar in there don't push agreed but the but again even on here it says brew the tea for three to four minutes I say again you see everyone's got different things sometimes if it's a tea bag almost like you know give it a good old dunk get it live there get a good color in the tea but three to four minutes I think it's half cold boiling isn't it and anyway but right back on with questions but don't forget you can buy the tea Doug JB asked what gin thing drinks because I mentioned about us having our drink problem and the other day let's go into G do you want us to go into Jim I'm not sure we got it on the website but we even sell gin in the tank museum shop and we've got the whole thing about gin why everyone loves that talking about Jim is he's come back with a bigger sort of fashion thing as well and you suggested Gordon's typical British so London distilled gin is one of those gins which has got a very English Association British flavour as it were that's what we're used to drinking in Britain of course we've been doing a lot of cooperation we searched a burg with we are head of collections is Dutch every time he goes back home or goes over there for some reason I always get him to pick me up a bottle of Dutch gin the botanicals in other words those little herbs and flavorings that are in Dutch gin are so different to the British ones and that's why I like with all these different things you know the unexamined life is not worth living what is it that is making those different flavour gins you know what is it about that that we like this one when you try Dutch gin if you're used to drinking London distilled gins ie Gordon's and things like that and then you try - Molly's very different very different thing have another glass see it's on the fundamental is on you by the third glass it's really really good this other stuff so it's a you know one of those other topics like wine like everything else we're a little bit more palate a little bit more flavor why do I like this one what's that one how can i define those differences and of course myself and finn we talked about this most evenings you know ad infinitum sort of sobriety I won't say talks he comes some sort of you know grouse about this and sort box about that sometimes but most of the time he just sort of like soar putting his ears backs on webbie's chin and we talk about it and he agrees doesn't he most of the time but but yeah so now the whole topic there Jim you better not get into that I'll see if we if we've got any further on the shop next time but we do some beautiful presentation gins as well in the tank museum shop Watchers arrow asks the question about you know when we were talking about gate cars in fact they always suffer and fall apart and waiting on these give me the ball go on anything he's asked a question about have we thought of any of those clear coatings for putting over the top of them and I'd be fascinated if anyone out there has a positive long-term experience with putting on you know whether it's a clear lacquer sprayed on or whatever onto a large metal outside object because the history really has been and if you talk about in museum fraternities everything else over time a lot of those preservation type of you know whether it's a chemically you know not not like ship varnish but polyurethane varnish it all sort of different ones anything a lot of time when they start degrading the problem of getting them all off from every last you know nook cranny crevice the way they flag the color things everything else is probably more problematic than just trying to give something another spray coat of paint but the idea of this you know magical if there was some form of preservation a lot of stuff if is inside or on open displays that thing's called the Renaissance wax and very fine wax is fine for you know unpainted metal surfaces armor you know as in medieval are things like that you know there's certain types of very fine wax which again are easy to remove if you have to remove them but I still don't know of someone coming up with something because a lot of them look great initially they do their job initially but then you come to that long is it five years is it ten years later when they're starting to degrade inevitably they will outside what are the things you can do about that and are they more problem than they're worth so if anyone's got good experiences of being able to coat things that are gonna stay outside you know do let us know we'd be interested right thinking back Randy come on give us a ball my second way right next question Herbert Johnson says do I really wear the slippers I'll be honest like most of you who've bought those slippers I bet you're saving them for best so my normal household slippers are in such disgusting states repair I glued the sole back on their kind of moccasin things but so I have to be honest and say they're my daily wear the tank slippers tend to be special things for best or if you're just going to want to show someone if you know off to someone Zephyr I believe the name is asked what's the colors of tools on tanks were they painted or not and I had a look at some of the imagery and I hate to say it's horses for courses there's in some pictures you can definitely see the tools have been taped painted same color it looks like as the vehicle probably you know in lot larger production run things that that same color it'll be an all is drab for American vehicles etc in other photographs you can see they're not necessarily painted they're in a factory finish of like the bare wood on the handles or again you know we have a tendency these days to paint the surface black actually I you know you use a tool of fair few times and paints not going to last on a on the ATO verb whether it's an ax or a shovel or Spade etc so so even though we like presenting things in a certain way they probably wouldn't done that while they certainly didn't didn't off the initial factory finish to seal them do anything that that side and we've also seen one or two items where they've obviously left the factory in red oxide and never being painted even though one assumes they were expected to be painted sometime later so I hate to say there's not there's a woolly answer there because time factory different countries different end results but have a look around that's not a good thing about why you study some of these nice photos and some of the books you can start seeing even if it's only in black and white you can start telling that look like it's a painted surface there's another issue there drop drop it that also I find interesting as well which is where sometimes you know we've got some of the original wartime wooden boxes that were issued with stowage etc or ammunition in and a caution oh they've got the original stencils and everything but they never looked like that when they were being used in service because when they were made they were made with new pine which again just think of you know if you've got any pine in the house when you first bought it put it up used it unless you've stained it at the time very different to the colour it goes over the years you know it mellows it gets that honey colour etc so that's why we'll find interesting because some of these reproduction companies they do these beautiful crisp boxes and of course that's how it would have looked at the time to the point that actually in some imagery you can see that they actually stained the wood because they were too white you know they were literally almost sort of you know jumping out of you and those sides wanted to tailing them down but things got dirty very quick being used or you know like a lot of these things what was the one that you know supposed to be back loaded five Minnesota's being chopped up but it would for the fire for that evening so so with a number of these things careful that we might have original material today but the look of it is going to be different if you're trying to do paint matches etc than how it would have been when it was first issued back in the war years and Keith Walker mentions the fact he saw was he he said you're absolutely right Keith he saw a central pegasus bridge British tank the centre it's got the Liberty engine in the back it's part of that Cromwell family basically the the engine was going to be the meteor wasn't quite ready so they were building the Cavalier then the center and the Cromwell is really what they wanted to build and these are kind of like Cavalier and central entry models the center does sea service because what they did was they Montgomery thought it would be a good idea if these tanks were used for bombarding the beaches for d-day put onto landing craft they'd already had their engines moved some of these were rebuilt to make Cromwell's they'd already had their engines man who's those Liberty engines they put them back in because they realized well actually if we bothered to take him all the way across the channel just as a sort of you know mobile artillery piece let's put the engines in in case they necessary to go ashore and they were manned by the Royal Marines armored support unit and they do go ashore and actually they're in action quite a bit longer than was first expected in those first few weeks in Normandy and the other thing about the center why that wanted Pegasus Bridge you know why these things are interesting in remembering some of these things is that they have this odd paint system on the edge of the turret with these it's it's you know degrees going all the way around the turret with a line down and a number on and that so that someone outside the tank could be calling through to the tank commander to say five degrees left we need around over there type thing and that that would be a help for external observers to actually get information to the tank so that it knows where it needs to be turning and firing that it's a gun sometimes 95 millimeter how it's so on there so and there is one and I meant to look up the story sorry we were involved once when they were trying to get a repainting about that particular tank that there at Pegasus Bridge I'm not sure if it's still actually there because sometimes they move these gate guard ones and some have moved to where the the the new museum is it used to be just opposite the lovely cafe con Dre's it I think at the house there was a pork on again you get the knife yeah so does that lead me on to any of the other I love it all okay so sorry the hills still there I was just going to remember which one's always first telling talking to you about Pete Sullivan ousted Britain and France consider rear-facing machine guns like the kv-1 and defecate Britain does it first you know mark fives got a rear facing machine gun out the back in the 1930s they look at the idea again especially for the idea of if you look at the multi-turreted tanks this you know where is your enemy to come from Japanese do it with a hard go the the you know foreground defense its back to this you know the ultimate aim is the enemies in front of you most of the time and therefore well that's where you put most your firepower even if you do again close infighting number of vehicles still have things like pistol ports or secondary on them that you can use through doesn't happy a fixed thing so if you were taking a brain gun with you at cetera firing it through a pistol call or a Thompson or whatever in a number of other vehicles but the the way the question is worded the kv-1 wasn't the first one that hand is that you know lots of countries had the idea before then Malik I think it is asked what's um is there any definition of what a high-velocity Gummy's and it's a tricky one that because actually it's another one of these moving feast what was high-velocity at one point as time moves on not really a high velocity anymore so it's lost is that interesting one it's about the the speed something goes to his target not just the speed but you know how quickly it's going to get on that target the the issue varies as tank guns the aim really is the more velocity the more chance that your round if you're firing armor-piercing is going to penetrate and the more velocity tendency as well the greater the distance it's going to go now there are so many things that interact on ammunition and guns so if you do one type of thing to improve like the length of a barrel you think is going to improve accuracy because it's got more time to actually send to that round than a shorter barrel all these types of issues if if you add or change the specification in one area it quite often means there's a change or a knock-on effect in another area because someone else asks a question for example why didn't we after we found discarding sabot ammunition and started to put that into operation why didn't they do around for the Sherman well discarding sabot ammunition needs a lot of kinetic energy welly behind that round when it's fired out because of the build structure of the 75 millimeter it's not the 75 millimeters can't fire discarding sabot but because that's in essence a medium velocity gun on the Sherman that's why they couldn't put that type of round in it because it needs so much kinetic energy behind it in other words a bigger case almost to get it out at the end of the barrel that barrel structures not built for that but it was built for a really good ram which is why we still love the 75 millimeter on the sherman even though we're putting six pounders and then reaming out six pounders so we can then take the 75 millimeter ammunition that the six pound that the to fit the new reamed out six pounds around a gun barrel if you see what I'm saying so it's it's one of those ones where not everything's going to work in that way so the idea you can backtrack other things you can do as well which is of course with some weapon systems like the 2 pounder they up its its potential armor-piercing roll by adding the Littlejohn projector which then has the idea of squeeze bores it's sometimes called so the effect of the cartridge is still the same that's um the amount of explosive that's in that brass case that force is out a slightly oversized round with a soft outer hard core inner and as it's projected that's squeezed down to shape and it gets the full velocity the full force behind it as it leaves the end and it ups the penetration ability of that original 2 pounder gun so sometimes you can add things there so again I think that answers that question it also taught touches on a couple more and by the way sort of that does give me the excuse to talk here and there about one or two of the other things I've got on the table which a lot of these issues are discussed in our Haynes manuals because of course firepower is one of those really important area so if you do look at German how their up gunning the pans are three from what it is thirty seven millimeter as it goes through right away to a short-barreled seventy five millimeter at the end of its career you know that's all written about in these Haynes manuals very well and I mentioned those ones because we've got a new stock of some Haynes in this one by Johnson Faulkner on some of the technology behind d-day that's a cracker as well Jonathan's the editor of the series one on the t-34 we've got there I think I've already mentioned you know look at them they're very very well put together beautifully illustrated great price for what you're getting the amount of information the quality there and so there's tank ones there but we've also got we brought in another loaded one so I know a lot of you like aeroplanes as well there's one on Stukas there's other ones they so do look on the website because they're very good and especially because some of those questions you know what what is it why why do certain guns change you the different times where do they fit in with their overall structure which kind of sort of also brings me onto a young lad called Charlie Crabtree I met him at our modelers event earlier in the year and he's sent in a question where they were debating you know which we all do and everybody sort of goes well you know what was this a better tank than that one what was the reasoning behind this etc and he was asking that you know carload of them coming down you know was the Sherman a better one than the t-34 what would have come out best and I often get asked this and one of my answers on this one he see it's it's such a complex question because you have to take in so many other features are just that end product there is no point I was talking about something like the Sherman or the t-34 if you haven't picked up on all the full process the conditions behind it so the Sherman for example you know thirty tons you're looking at again we always compare it to some of those late war German tanks etc bigger heavier more powerful guns the Sherman was designed in the United States where it was going to be built because the United States was not being bombed rusev outs line arsenal of democracy this is a product that we can build here safely and securely but we're going to have to ship it all around the world so that it can actually operate so in the Pacific or to Europe so it can do its job there that's where the fighting is going on so there was no point them building a tank that is so heavy that most of the ships all the dockside all the equipment all the Derrick's all the railways that are going to have to maneuver all this stuff around the world can't cope 30 tons they could so you see that as a design criteria is different to what some of the other countries are coming up with as part of their design criterias so when you're putting these two things against each other if you don't know that background or what their thought processes were or the other thing is how they're going to intended to use it then sometimes when we're just doing a one against one Top Trumps type comparison we're missing a lot of the regular art other parts of the argument how does it fit in with the rest of an armored force what's the doctrine how do they think they're going to use this weapon and you know and what works for them or how do they adjust themselves so that they get the best from that that item and that's a game one of these things so that we're just comparing trying to get like we'd like is really really problematic you know because there are times of course if you're talking about one on one tank battle very rarely happens but those issues then how fix my armor is my gun going to penetrate that one the enemy tank etc they are vital life life decide defining moments but for the vast majority of the rest of the time that just doesn't happen it's it's just you know the one-on-one situation but there's a countless other things that are going on that influences whether that vehicle might be just as successful failure or how it's going to be used and we quite often there I say forget all those other factors that come into play so it's it's a tricky question because you know we're bound to have to talk about was this more successful why do they try and do things how does it fit it but you need to look at all those issues because you can argue t-34 if you look at the number of them knocked out it's a failure if you want to look at it that way you know in the many other country they'd lost that many tanks and tank crew but the Soviet Union could carry on training men because it's got so many men to train providing new tank crews and building replacement tanks because of their industrial capacity so for them it is a successful design that undoubtedly went through in the end because it wins you know they're on the winning side so it's it's you know this very hard to actually judge like we'd like so Charlie I don't know if that helps at all answer your question and probably giving you 101 more questions but it was lovely meeting you and I I gather I haven't seen it yet I gather you've posted somewhere your own tank chat you did when you we were down there at the in front of the tiger so I'll be looking out for that right and I think I've got through most of the questions I was going to be asked there was a couple of other things I wanted to bring up other than there we go again with fin sorry a couple of other things coming up so I mentioned the fact Father's Day is coming up so what is it the things you can get there which is going to cause me to jump up in a moment I was going to wear these but I just thought it'd be so ridiculous to try and show you and I don't know what hour of the day is it you know shape the ankle might might not be the time of day for you and we have now got tank museum shop socks get my words out there's the other one that goes with it but I've cut out a bit of cardboard so you can see the thigh and I'm going to jump up along with another item I want to show you so you can get a closer look and there you go on our tank museum hopefully that's focusing in on auto focus you've got tigers you've got jewels you've got Sherman's you've got everything else so imagine the delight you can have I think I've already lost the label it's come off but it's 80% cotton so there proper pucker socks with a bit of a last alene in there I has a label come off yeah I don't seem to a lot of labor because it says something like authentic tank museum you know officially approved socks as a plus so don't go buying those unapproved socks if you find any out there but they're they are perfect present and you can imagine all you guys sitting there sort of you know adjusting your trousers or being able to come into one another single thank you showing just a little bit too much churchill at the moment or whatever so great idea there for Father's Day if you want to buy that one and I have other what was the other Father's Day question present I was just gonna show you I've already oh here we go I meant to bring those up with me as well which I'll keep meaning to wear these you can get your tank museum cufflinks as well so there's the cufflinks in a box set there I've been wearing them a couple of times and every time I forget to show them off as well as of course all those other wonderful things we've been saying some of which I've been telling you about before we're going to do a really good offer as well here's another one if you're feeling guilty monopoly and Cluedo if you buy both of them together we're knocking our whole 10 pounds off the price so limited time but that's another one of those ideas of course what Father's Day present who wouldn't want his 17-pounder inflatable round or a we've got the 88 millimeter or Sherman rounds as well yeah we have of course as ever all those usual things this one unfortunately started melting in my bag yeah it's melted get your chocolate and there's Centurion there's all the different types of chocolate there and as you are sitting there looking astute in your cufflinks and your tank museum if you get out your pen this was the other one they're not however close I don't think I'm gonna be able to do it this is one of those lovely pens where if you turn them up and down if I do that way I've got a Tiger 131 driving all the way down here I'll go the other way you're not be able to see any of this are you but anyway so don't forget your stationery as well so you can have your Tank Museum pen or your Tank Museum ruler just in case you forget during the course of your homework or whatever it is you're doing what a Churchill a7v a tiger a Sherman and a mark fall looked like so as we go along there and we do also have there I believe for sale and you can't even see what that is but it's actually one of those classic car stickers my other car is a and you've got a target tank or whatever so we've got those ones there as well and I would always again especially if you just thinking if I was a general interest bringing people in I keep mentioning it have a look at our new guidebook I don't know if any of you have bought this if you want to but make comment on it tell other people what you think about it I think it's great I think he's genuinely and for the money you get there you've got a fantastic history of the tank and lots of really good issues in this so I know I brought that one up before but I bring it up again because I do think there's another issue IMing an RN or putting together something in your basket and the short that's one to add to it because I think you'll be impressed by that as well so but do come in there's even really bought it and I've always brought it out again because again different ranges different levels of interest tank spotters guide a lot of really good information in there David Flay she does it so you know there's a lot of good stuff there just being able to take you through again if you're getting into tanks what do they look like what would they design for what's what are they there so I think I've covered off all the questions I was going to ask or trying to get through today we'll keep these going as I say we're still looking now when we are going to open we'll keep these going as long as we possibly can at the moment I repeat at the end there thank you so much of you who've already bought some of this product helping us keeping us going or I'll mention the t-shirt another t-shirt they're a different design have a look there if you're into your t-shirts or hoodies they're all on the website thanks if you have bought stuff do keep in touch it's almost reading the comments now it's almost like some of the people we know you know like hello bill from Iowa hello bill from Iowa Rosie and all these other people that are regularly putting comments there so thank you if you're new to it do have a look do support us do subscribe to all those things you're supposed to and I know some of you very kindly given us donations as well have a look at that patreon scheme or join one of our membership things as well if you have that opportunity if you don't thank you for watching thanks for the support anyway and do mic like your comments do carry I'm not asking the questions and fin come here a second it's just interested in his ball come and say goodbye come around here I know you're very interested in the dog and you're not really interested in me come on pup you come so fin says goodbye as well and if all goes well we're gonna go all fishing in a moment aren't we yeah okay but it's more interesting all I have to say in the ball thank you in these difficult times obviously your support is really valued so please do keep following us on social media do subscribe to our channel and and if you've got the opportunity perhaps order something from our shop join one of our schemes like patreon or our friends 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Channel: The Tank Museum

Views: 41,682

Rating: 4.9711375 out of 5

Keywords: the tank museum, tank museum, bovington tank museum, david fletcher, david willey, military tank, curator Q&A, david willey q&A, soviet tanks, chobham armour, curator david willey

Id: t1PDwidg2EQ

Length: 42min 5sec (2525 seconds)

Published: Tue Jun 02 2020