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s m what the emergency I was in bed and I heard gunshots that went they were shooting really fast all right we'll send a deputy out to check the area I see these two unmarked police cars and then I see an ambulance and I start running up that road the detective said well we had a shooting tonight and he said it's my duty to inform you that your daughter's deceased on a hot summer night in 2012 Wendy's daughter jimie was found shot to death in her car in the months leading up to her murder law enforcement had sent Jaimie on nearly 20 undercover operations but she wasn't a detective she was what the street would refer to as a snitch law enforcement calls them confidential informance or CIS and they are essential to gaining access to criminal networks they're in valuable but it is often ordinary untrained civilians who are asked to do this very dangerous work I was standing about here they started pointing the gun at me telling me to get on the ground they're pimping out college kids to do the Dirty Work that they don't want to do they're outside with the bulletproof and guns they send me that I don't even know how to hold the gun what kinds of people become confidential informants and how are they protected my parents didn't know I didn't feel safe tonight we'll explore the stories of three people sent into the lion's den by law enforcement a struggling mother of two I told her you're just a pawn in their game a naive college student every second I felt in over my head and hardworking immigrants chasing the American dream after all of that work what did you get for it je America it can be inspiring and beautiful it can also be dark and ugly it's so many things but it's ours it's our [Applause] [Music] America Crystal River Florida a sleepy tourist town known as one of the best places to swim with manatees in early 2012 it was the site of a series of Sting operations in which 18 people were arrested Ed for drug distribution this couldn't have been achieved without the help of someone on the inside a confidential informant named Jamie Seager 6 months later Jaimie a young mother of two was gunned down in the middle of the night I've come here to try to unravel the details of Jaime's violent death and I begin with her mother Wendy her car was like right in here just down from the hill so your feeling is that she may have been shot um up this incline a little bit and the car drifted down to here the pictures I seen of her she slumped over the counil in the center of the car so I imagine her foot came off the brake and the car just rolled what's it like to come back out here I'm half expecting you know to see her or to hear her you know because this was the last place she was alive after Jamie murder her family requested information about her informant work work they believe led to her death but the sheriff has refused to release this information it's been over a year since Jamie was killed but there's still so many unanswered questions has that affected your grieving process there's just a lot more I have to accomplish before I can even think about grieving because I'm afraid that when I do start it's gonna tear me apart so she was born in 1985 yep she was 27 years 6 months she liked to help people it was one of her passions when Jamie was 20 she got a degree in Corrections and began working as a prison guard it was one of the things that she wanted to accomplish in life she wanted to continue so she could go into the police academy but in 2006 a serious car accident derailed Jaime's career path suffering from a severe back injury her doctor prescribed pain medication she got addicted to the pain medication like so many people do I would say probably about 2009 2010 when it started to become a a real noticeable problem jimie quit her job at the prison and her life started to unravel her and her husband had split up because of her addiction he just didn't want it around the kids one day Jamie came to her mother with a startling solution for her addiction to painkillers she said I'm not on the blues anymore I'm like great wonderful how' you do that oh well such and such person told me if I smoke crack and I'm like what I'm like that's not a fix that's just going into something worse and she says I think I can regulate it so I don't get addicted to it and I say you're chasing a Fool's dream how bad did it get her addiction to crack it was really bad I mean she lost all body weight body fat I mean she was a skeleton with just skin Jamie would often disappear for days into the streets and drug culture of Crystal River and during this time Jamie began working for the local sheriff's department as a confidential informant setting up the same dealers that she bought drug from the question was why so Jamie told you that she wanted to become a CI because she wanted to help law enforcement right she worked a lot for him and she got paid for every job that she did so do you think that Jamie was working as a CI to support her crack habit well it made it easier for her to get because that's what she was buying there are many reasons people choose to become a CI some do it in exchange for leniency on criminal charges some do it for the money and others do it out of a sense of civic duty the answer to why jimie became a CI lies in her confidential informant file that the state hasn't released did you have concerns while she was doing this yeah I says they're going to figure out you know sooner or later and you know the police aren't going to be there they're not going to have your back you're just a pawn in their game several times a week jimie was sent out to make controlled buys drug deals she recorded for the police with a hidden camera Jaimie did at least 18 sting operations in a 3 to 4month period in this small town it probably wasn't difficult to figure out who the informant was thanks so much for talking to us problem one of Jim's contacts from the streets agreed to speak with us on the condition that we don't reveal his identity what can you tell us about about Jamie she wasn't a good person I never had no bad run weather so did people start talking about the fact that Jamie was a snitch oh yeah yeah I mean the rumor started because there was a bunch of bus last year when you heard people talking about it and saying that she was working for the police and then which in return caused you know problems when people started to talk about her were you afraid that something bad could happen to her yeah anytime hear somebody's name around like that is a possibility of you're not dealing with good people as the rumors on the street spread Jaimie started to receive death threats from some of the dealers that she set up you know she tried to play it off every time somebody would say well we know you're working for the cops she would just sort of laugh says no that's not me in the days leading up to her death you said that Jamie was expressing concern to law enforcement about her security yes she called them what did she say she said I've had some people text me saying that you know they're going to take care of me cuz they know I'm the CI how many times had Jamie contacted law enforcement to express her concerns quite frequently I spoke with them also you know about her addiction I says we're trying to get her help but we don't have the resources needed to be able to get her into a rehab facility do you think law enforcement sufficiently protected Jamie they did the opposite they put her In Harm's Way They Were the harm every informant's worst fear is to have their cover blown Jaime was a struggling addict and her life was now in danger for a young man in Virginia the perilous journey of being a confidential informant was only just beginning I was standing about here and three agents ran up the steps on July 25th 2012 Jamie spent the day at Wendy's house desperately calling around for some cracked cocaine to feed her addiction late in the evening she finally found some normally jimie went on these runs alone but because she'd been receiving death threats she was scared and asked Wendy to ride along with her we were supposed to be going to a gas station so I said I'll go in and get a pop so it wasn't like I was going to be there when she did the Buy on their way to the gas station the dealer called to change the meeting location they said I'll be walking down Creed and you can pick me up she say well I got my mama with me he saids don't bring your mom Jamie dropped Wendy off at the gas station and I told her I love you be careful after 20 minutes Jamie still hadn't returned and Wendy tried to reach her but she didn't answer so I'm sitting there on the cement by the pay phone and I see these two unmarked police cars and then I see an ambulance and I'm like wow there must be something big going on down that street I finally walk over and I shown that flashlight up on the road sign and it said Creed that's when I realized that that's the road that she went down that all them cop cars were going up and that ambulance was going up and so I'd start running up that road as Wendy was running up the road she was stopped by a sheriff's deputy he said well we had a shooting tonight and as soon as he said that my ears started going numb and he says it's my duty to inform you that your daughter is deceased and I just put my head in my hands and I said I need to see her but they refused I didn't get to see her at all Wendy what's the next step for you like what do you want to know I want to know exactly what went down what happened why it happened and who all was involved the work of informance is often shrouded in secrecy and the answers to Wendy's questions may not be easy to come by it's estimated that up to 80% of all drug cases in the United States involve the use of an informant they can be hard users like Jamie or recreational users like the young man I'm about to meet in rural Virginia history runs deep in these Rolling Hills where gentlemen's farms and quaint bnbs doth the landscape 25-year-old Alex grew up in this world of privilege with all the opportunities it afforded I've lived here my entire life on this Farm growing up in this really bucolic environment would you say you were a good kid I played Sports I got good grades I excelled in a lot of areas but I'd say I played a a balance of Golden Boy and U and mischievous bad boy like many young people Alex had a chance to test his independence when he went off to college at James Madison University so you get to college and what happens my freshman year my grades were good but my behavior was wild Alex Qui fell into a hard partying crowd James Madison was a big party school you could walk into a suite in my freshman dorm and ask people what they were on and there might be six or seven different drugs mushrooms and acid and ketamine and cocaine and um weed you want to make friends and you want to be liked and uh when there's such a a rampant drug culture and seemingly no one getting in trouble uh it's easy to fall into a situation where you're one of the cool guys when you're young people put themselves In Harm's Way just to feel alive and I think that I very much did that once I went to college throughout his college Years Alex was able to maintain his grades and still party he's taking me to the Suburban off-campus house where he used to live during his senior year of college this is my house it was here that he hosted some of his wildest parties it's a nice house for a bunch of college kids yeah it definitely was after a few years of living in Rinky Dink little apartments it got a lot better from here so you had a pretty good life yeah I had a great life on the morning of one of his last final exams Alex's High Life came to an abrupt end when the local drug task force raided his house I heard someone walk in the door and yell police I was standing about here and three agents ran up the steps and they all had guns some sort of semi-automatic pistols when they saw me um they they started pointing the gun at me telling me to get on the ground so I got on my hands and knees and crawled into my room according to Alex a special agent followed him into his room and locked the door he told him that an informant had tipped them off he told me that um it's alleged that you're a drug dealer we've come in here looking for drug drugs um we know that you've been buying and selling them and gave our informant prices the police found seven capsules and a third of a gram of the party drug Molly valued at $200 Alex was facing a felony distribution charge which could mean 40 years in prison I was in here asking about an attorney um and being told that that's not how this works and that um if I got an attorney my next conversation would be on a jail phone with my parents begging for Bond money and that I would likely be expelled from school I was told if you want to continue school you're going to have to play ball the agent gave him an ultimatum become an informant for the drug task force or get arrested and go to jail in colleges across the country students are often used to infiltrate the campus drug culture you don't really think about how vulnerable college kids are to becoming informants at that point I'm about to graduate from college the world was my oyster I was invincible and um when someone's explaining to you that you could lose 5 to 40 Years of your life uh it's uh it's a powerful uh it's a powerful tool Alex was desperate to make it disappear but he would soon discover that becoming an informant was not going to be an easy way out I was in situations that I never wanted to be in trying to make friends with people I never wanted to meet yeah we're here to pick up the T moment what's up in a dingy motel room in Queens New York a drug deal is going down that's right there all right but none of the men in this room are actual drug dealers all right good this is a role play part of a training for law enforcement Personnel on how to use informance come on back in let's go over what we did Brian C is a Narcotics officer with over 20 years of experience through this on-site training he hopes to prepare officers for scenarios they may encounter in the field I hope to leave here with a better understanding of why law enforcement needs informance informants are the bread and butter of uh law enforcement they really can provide a lot of good information and assistance in small towns where everybody knows everybody there's no way to bring in an undercover detective you have to use informance okay on this one we're going to do where you're briefing your informant we're going to do this in out quickly buy the drugs take the drugs back to the house you understand yeah are confidential informants trained in any way they're taught if this happens this is how you can react how important is keeping CI safe it's Paramount if informants are being hurt people aren't going to work for us if you had a kid um who got in trouble with the law and had an opportunity to work off some charges by becoming a CI would you advise that he or she do it that's a tough question I'm lucky my kids all grew up and I didn't have to have that situation uh I can see the benefit with some people it gives them a chance to keep the record clean I wouldn't recommend it as a profession so that's a tough one while Brian and his trainees are working out hypothetical situations Alex was facing a very real one you want to take a left here a few days after the police raided his house they summoned him to a secret location he calls it the snitches layer I met the investigator and he led me down this Lane I had no idea where I was going or what I was doing I think this um might be at the one straight up to the left that that's it it's here in this non-descript office at a storage facility that the investigator laid out the terms of becoming a confidential informant he gave me a deadline you have one year if you make enough bus we're going to drop the charges enticed by the potential Clean Slate Alex agreed to become an informant but he quickly found out that it wasn't exactly what he expected Alex says the investigator told him they wanted him to go after crystal meth heroin and crack cocaine dealers we contacted the investigator he wouldn't comment on Alex's case but he did confirm that the policy at the time was to use CIS to go after hard drugs and I said well what do you expect from me I don't do those drugs and he said do what you've got to do to make some new friends and find some bad guys for us and we'll make this all go away the more Alex heard the more uncomfortable he became I was was asking him how can you ensure that that person's not going to know it was me how can you protect me afterward and there weren't very good answers I didn't want to do this I didn't feel safe that my parents didn't know at first Alex tried to stall the investigator but the pressure quickly intensified I might get a text hey are we going to get serious about that thing or should I send a unit to you right now to bring you in and get these charges started Alex realized he was going to have to do something more substantial I was in situations where I was in a house that I never wanted to be in I was trying to make friends with people I never wanted to meet all for self-preservation the first time that I tried heroin was related to me trying to make friends with someone in that game and figure out how to set that person up I had to do that heroin so that the guy would trust me I puked um it made me sick um I was sick anyway um just because of the situation Alex was a kid from a sheltered background who had dabbled in party drugs now he was trying the highly addictive drug heroin in order to fulfill his agreement with law enforcement feeling trapped Alex started to consider other ways to escape the situation I didn't have enough money to run away I was in such a bad way that at times I thought about just killing myself so that I'd never have to bear the shame before Alex could pursue a plan B his informant deal was revoked and he was arrested informants are often vulnerable people who agree to do this dangerous work because they believe they have no other option in Upstate New York I'm about to meet two immigrants in pursuit of the American dream who were also lured into the shadowy world emelo and a sister on a start the day early to open up their Cafe it's almost Christmas and it should be a happy time for amilio but instead he feels the pressure of a ticking clock you always nervous you don't know if they willing to give me one more year or they want to get rid of me emelo immigrated to the US from Argentina in a few weeks he'll learn if he's going to be sent back to a country he hasn't lived in for 16 years emelo has a young daughter and a wife who is also an immigrant all my life is here everything I have my daughter she born here I'm the only one in provide for my wife and for my daughter if I'm gone what are they going to do this is a common dilemma for many immigrants but amelo is different for more than four years he worked for the United States government as an informant and was promised permanent residency in exchange they promis to give me something they don't give me emelio's Story begins in the late 1990s when he and his sister anaia came to the United States on tourist visas they fell in love with the country and wanted to stay here if you really work hard you get what you what you work for amelo and anaia hired an attorney to help them file the proper paperwork for permanent legal residency you thought you were doing everything right yeah we had in the waiting process while they wait waited for their paperwork to be approved emelo and anaia continued to work and eventually saved up enough money to open their own Cafe when you come to another country you are more like competitive you got to work better than everyone else they were achieving the American dream but in 2005 they found out that their paperwork was never filed and that they faced potential deportation Hi how are you good how are you good friends at the local police department introduced them to Agents from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency also called ice the agents told them if they became informants they would help them get S visas which are given to immigrants who help law enforcement they were scared but they believed it was their only option so how often were you working for them they called maybe once a week ice wanted them to go after a wide range of criminal activities from drug dealers and gangs to prostitution rings and human smuggling operations oh thank you so much you're welcome so they're sending two people who have had no criminal background just upstanding hardworking people out into some of the highest crime neighborhoods yeah yeah they're outside with the bulletproof and guns they s they send me that I don't even know how to hold the gun emelo tells me that the scariest operation was when he was sent to one of the most dangerous cities in New York state to buy a fake green card they told me you got to go buy a paper for this lady that's it and I asked him yeah but I got to know who sent me here they say okay tell them they send you this guy so I went to this place and this lady come out and she say okay who sent you and I said yeah this guy sent me oh okay but it's not here we got to we got to go in my car somewhere else you can't say no I don't go I'm stay here or I'm going home then you look suspicious Emilio got in the car he was wearing a wire and undercover ice agents were monitoring the operation he assumed they would follow him to the next location they lost me because the range of the microphone they lost me I went one way and then they don't even know after a few hours of waiting emelo became concerned that his cover was blown and he fled it's like you walking like this go walking in with the microphone and I was guys where are you guys and I was alone and then you're shaking All Over You Can't Stop thinking what happened after working with ice for 4 years on increasingly dangerous operations Emilio and analia weren't any closer to receiving their promised s visas in fact ice was about to up the stakes they come out well now we need a terrorism you have to get some terrorist information I say well I didn't care I say well I don't know start walking go walk take a day to New York City go to New York City start walking they told that you had to move to New York City so you could work on terrorism cases yeah you got to do it they say if you want this yeah if you want this you're going to find them foration Emelia and analia didn't know where to begin to find terrorists and they were scared to even try but ice threatened to deport them if they didn't deliver on this request I say what what are you do this to me I did my part I did what they told me too back in Florida Jamie did what she was told and it resulted in a devastating outcome session five months after Jaime's murder three suspects were arrested judging conversations with defense counsel p mcgo is the prosecutor on the murder case and he's going for the death penalty he explains that the men on trial may have had a simple motive Revenge Miss Seager had been a working uh confidential in forant for the centrus county sheriff's office two of jae's alleged Killers had also been Targets in her informant work several months before her murder they were charged with felony distribution of cracked cocaine and released on bail in Florida and many other states defendants have the right to see all of the evidence against them it's part of a pre-trial preparation phase called The Discovery process in cases involving an informant this can expose them to even greater risk we have to disclose the information that we have to make a case the drug buys that Miss Seager made were audio and video recorded and those materials get disclosed so it's altogether possible that the defendants um were able to either hear or see interactions with with the deceased correct and uh ultimately uh in retribution she was murdered it doesn't sound like she was very protected I mean after she did her work in the field it it doesn't sound like she was very protected the Sheriff's Office notified Miss Seager when that information would be disclosed but I don't think one can have a valid security concern for their safety if they're going out to buy drugs for their own consumption Jamie was putting herself In Harm's Way by continuing to buy drugs from the people she had busted even after her identity was revealed but at that point in her life was she capable of making good decisions on her own behalf how vulnerable was Jamie during all of this I mean she was a crack addict how dangerous do you believe it was for law enforcement to continuously send her into the lion's den if you will they didn't think about that they didn't see that she needed help do you remember the moment when Jamie found out that her name was going to be yes disclosed they told her it's part of the discovery process if the lawyers for the defendants ask for the video or audio we have to supply it for him and I looked at her I'm like that's the same of as you walking in front of that person's face saying hi I'm the one that got you busted these are some of J's informant videos that were released in the discovery [Music] process did they yesterday in a thank you uh you guys gave me $40 to go make it buy across from high school he where's caddy at he knows me Jamie Jamie yeah told you I'll be back I 60 who you I'm by myself hey be careful girl I am let somebody know the police pull your ass over I will these videos clearly reveal Jaime's identity to the men she helped bust the sheriff's department must have known that this was a possibility did they really do enough to protect her it's been over a year since Jaime's death and many questions still haunt Wendy she's Enlisted the help of attorney Bill Grant in her fight for answers Jamie Seager went out and did work for the sheriff's department and because of that today she's dead and somebody's responsible not just those that murdered her but those that put her in Peril do you think Jamie knew the consequences of what she was doing the consequence the result in death I don't know that anybody knows that I who knows that is the professional law enforcement person that's why they're charged with the obligation responsibility to a make sure she knows and B to provide the requisite care after the transactions are over what do you want complete unfettered access to her confidential informant file we want the record so that we can know Jam's activities and what she did for them how she did it so have you been able to determine why jimie became a CIA in the first place she apparently told her mother that she wanted to put away bad guys and help people well I mean there may have been an element that she was corrections officer but at the end of the day there were other things that she was facing you don't just walk in the sheriff's department and say I want to be a CI and all those details lie within that file the sheriff's department will not release so what should the sheriff's department have done to protect Jamie when Jamie colon said that she was afraid for her life they're threatening me they want to hurt me nobody ever did anything affirmatively the government could have paid those people a visit and it's shameful the family has a dead daughter survived by two children and the sheriff of sisters County's never even called and said I'm sorry for your loss Jamie served us well and I'm really sorry we contacted the sheriff's department but they declined to comment due to the ongoing murder trial there are CIS around this state that are getting harmed every year these are real people with real Lives who help law enforcement to help themselves and then fall into Harm's Way they're not disposable Alex had survived his informant experience but he now faced the legal system after his arrest Alex was released on bail for over a year he had kept this enormous secret from his family and it was time to tell them I was finally stepping into the situation that I was so afraid and so mortified of telling my dad I felt bad for him because that must have been torture for him you know to have to keep all this stuff bottled up inside of him if you close the gate behind me I'll all right scoot on out I just wish I had been a little more approachable the last thing he was probably going to do was call me up and say you know hey Dad I yeah screwed up Alex's mother reacted with disbelief it just didn't seem like it was real and then I started getting angry I kept saying I want to meet the man who's the head of this drug task force you know I'm your mother I should have that right it you know this isn't okay they're pimping out college kids to do the Dirty Work that they don't want to do Alex's family hired a lawyer to fight the charges but in the end he was told there was no way to avoid jail time nothing could really save me from the situation I had put myself in nothing in Alex's background prepared him for jail surrounded by hardened criminals I was real scared in the beginning um I felt bullied because I guess um I didn't look like the typical inmate it was so obvious that I had never been to jail before visiting her son in jail was not something Alex's mother thought she would ever have to do going to see him the first time in the jail was uh an incredible experience there is my son in an orange jumpsuit and plas stick shoes and handcuffs and the handcuffs thinking handcuffs after 6 months Alex was released on probation while prison is behind him he will have to carry the label of felon for the rest of his life do you think what happened to you was fair I think that I was worthy of a second chance um of not being permanently imprinted um as a convicted felon you know the best thing I had going for me I'd never been in trouble good kid clean record made a dumb mistake I'm not a good kid anymore I don't have a clean record anymore despite his jail time and felony status Alex could be considered lucky the worst was over and he was now able to move on with his life in Upstate New York amilio and anaia were still at the mercy of their immigration handlers after more than four years of working as informants they were facing an agonizing choice either risk their lives and their families to find terrorists for ice or refuse to do the operation and get deported they were desperate and decided to discuss their situation with an influential customer of their Cafe US Congressman Maurice hinchi so we told him the case he say it can't be my country doesn't do this I say yeah but they do he say go to my office this coming week and we're going to help you Congressman hinch's office contacted ice about the case but instead of resolving the situation it appeared to accelerate it an ice officer told amelo that his handler was irate she say somebody started to investigate in in Washington what happened with you and she's Furious you better call and I was so nervous I started calling her and she didn't answer she didn't answer the answer came a week later early one winry morning in 2009 emelo was getting ready for work when ice raided his home guys start to show up with gun with long guns all over the place I started to show up more cars ni all over the place SI and they put me in the car and they took me away Amelia was taken to a detention center it's still unclear why anaia was not also detained what I suffer in that jail you have no idea when you not belong there it's bad very bad alilio had never been in trouble with the law and here he was in a Maximum Security Prison facing deportation and that moment you you just say send me whatever you want to send me but take me out of here send me to the desert but get me out of here it's very bad good how are you how you doing back in Upstate New York the community rallied and hundreds of people called Congressman hinch's office begging him to help alelo congressman hinchi did intervene and was able to get a stay of deportation after 15 days in detention emelo was finally released Emilio was ultimately granted a one-year stay of removal and each year he has to fight to get it renewed the congressman and his community continue to support him we're going to continue to do everything that we can to try to make this situation straight while emelo is grateful for this temporary fix there are no guarantees and deportation still looms it's been 4 years since his detention and emelo still lives in limbo every February he finds out if he can stay in the country as the holidays approach his anxiety ratchets up yeah I think we want to say these yeah I try to to be happy for my daughter don't show it to her was what I'm feeling inside because you always nervous an aah is now married to an American citizen and her path to permanent residency is much more secure than her brother's but amelo hasn't given up hope given everything that you've been through why do you want to stay in America I'm still thinking this is a country of opportunity and I still believe in the country we going to ask Sant if papy can stay in the country what do you have to lose here if if things don't work out my life I lose everything I have my wife my daughter if I lose I lose completely after losing years of his life Alex is trying to reclaim his promising future he's living in a small one room cabin a far cry from the large house he lived in during college I'm very much laying low until I get off of my probation Alex was a journalism major and he's eagerly pursuing his career this is Alex sharp with the Rapa hanic news I'm actually writing a story about the deer hunting season I want to be an investigative journalist and um maybe people will see my experience as an added perspective that could be advantageous someone who's been on the inside I think that the felony has given me something to prove even with the limitations on his life Alex feels Freer than he has in years I'm still alive I'm I don't have to hide anything anymore I'm very much the master of my own destiny again back in Florida Jamie's Legacy is now in her mother's hands hey who's that Mama and Wendy is trying to make sure that her memory lives on Jaime's daughter is now five and she's very curious about her mother here's your mama when she was 12 out of concern for her privacy the family has requested that we not show her face I make sure we talk about Jamie all the time we say that she's our angel now and that she's watching over us there she is yeah that's your mommy I like this one you know that pink stuffed animal that your mom gave you I named it mommy Angel mommy Angel Wendy is also struggling to reclaim her daughter's good name something that was lost when she became informant 12 006 it's okay it's to your mama so write whatever you want I'm Jamie's voice now I'm the only voice that she has and I want people to know that she was a person and she meant something she's always going to mean something no I think every day ordinary citizens are enlisted as confidential informants we only hear about their risky work when something goes horribly wrong there it goes there it goes wow while it can be argued that informants are a critical part of law enforcement perhaps we should be asking ourselves at what cost you go Jamie [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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Published: Thu May 09 2024