Conversation with Catherine Plano about Astrology and 2024

it's time to dive deep into the cosmic currents with renowned astrologer Pam Gregory who unlocks the transformative power of astrology in our everyday lives explore how celestial events from solar eclipses to the dynamic Jupiter and Uranus conjunction not only reflect Universal energies but also directly influence our personal Journeys Pam offers a window into how these powerful alignments can catalyze profound changes inviting us to embrace growth and new possibilities join us as we delve into the ancient wisdom encoded in the Stars revealing insights into our individual Destinies and Collective Evolution through Pam's guidance learn how to navigate life's challenges with Grace understand the significance of your birth chart and awaken to higher truths this is your invitation to rise the wave of cosmic transformation empowering you to live authentically and in harmony with the universe so good morning good evening or good afternoon depending on what side of the world you are sitting on at this very moment we have the most amazing guest a guest that I'm super excited about a guest of been waiting for such a long time to get on the show but the most amazing woman Pam Gregory welcome to the show ah it's an absolute Joy To Be With You Katherine I've been following your work and I I love the the different way you approach subjects and the way you interview people so yeah it's an honor to be with you today thank you and it's honor to be with you today and the way that we love to start the show we always love to ask our special guest how did you get into what you do today what inspired you to get into astrology Pam yes um after University I'd I'd always from the age of about 10 wanted to immigrate to Canada so after University the very next day I got on a plane to Toronto Canada with a $100 didn't know anyone didn't have a job nothing so started a new adventure there and lived there for 5 years but the very first week I joined a yoga class and there was this big guy from Jamaica in the class and a couple of the girls at the end said he's an astrologer so I went to see him and said look I know nothing about this but I'd I'd love you to do my chart and uh bizarrely his name was ASA which is quite like Astra Latin for Star which is kind of bizarre because he disappeared soon afterwards he was like an an Earth Angel that was just there to kind of reconnect me but anyway I went um round to his very small apartment a week later spent seven hours with him and it's like the world are just cracked open to reveal this dimension of meaning that I'd never been aware of up to that point and he went back in my life and gave me specific date about events and and it was just like clockwork it was just spoton and um through a variety house moves um I I lost the tape it was a cassette tape in those days um and after 5 years I decided to leave Canada and I was packing up boxes and I came across the tape of our recording so I was playing it as I was packing boxes and in this he was actually saying September the 4th 1979 will be a huge Turning Point point in your life that day was September the 4th 1979 and I was leaving Canada forever and he said within two months you'll be on one of the major highs of your life and I was sitting at 19,000 ft in the Himalayas so from that point I was completely electrified and haven't stopped learning since that is amazing that is amazing because I mean I've had quite a a few astrology readings and they haven't been that profound I have to say fam so that's pretty amazing yes and it's a very it's very important well I no longer do client work because I'm so busy doing you know helping the collective but um it's very important to pinpoint the birth time so I will usually dowe it to um get get a birth time if people don't know um they have to know you know fairly closely I can't just have a sort 24-hour span or the maths kind of just become too crazy but once I've got that dowed birth time I will go back in the person 's life this life and identify specific dates which have a black and white yes or no answer not will kind you know did your father die that month and you can't say Well he kind of died you know he either did or he didn't it's black black and white answers did you have your first child then did you change country then did you and if I get um the answer to those is yes all of those things happened but they happen 6 months later then I know that person is born say 4 minutes later gotcha than I'd estimated so I can actually pinpoint it in that way so it's very important that I do that it's also very validating for the client because if it works backwards it's very likely to work forwards in time once we've got the correct time yeah because I know I know quite a few astrologists and uh it's amazing how they just when they read their charts they they it's like this predictive tool that they're using and they instead of Dancing with the archetype they're actually waiting for something to happen and and I just find that really interesting because for me and I could be wrong I mean I'm not an astrologist but I have been dabbling in astrology for quite some time that for me it's like the weather forecast it's what's around and it's what we do with these archetypes 100% and whether they get and I'm I'd love to hear more about whether they get activated and if they're not activated I'm sure they get activated but it's like if I look at look you know for Pluto for example there's a light and um the shadow of each archetype and so I feel that if we don't dance with those archetypes they sit in the shadow and then we'll get the the shadow aspects of like for Pluto destruction and power struggle compl compared to if we are in the light with her and dance with her we're probably more into the transformation and the healing and that kind of energy so I'd love to hear more about how do we navigate through this Cosmic dance yeah yeah really really good question because I I sort of want to give two two answers to that firstly if we understand the archetypes and that's what you know my work is about all the time helping people to do that every archetype as you say every planet will have a shadow expression and a positive expression so my work is to help people understand that so they they know what they're dealing with they've got a you know an in-depth weather forecast as you say having done that and I can give some examples in the moment but having done that I'm what I'm trying to do now is because there's such a sense of fadness with astrology you know even now what are the planets doing to me people want to come for a reading what are they doing to me and I want to go way beyond that to say look this is modeling clay for you and once you understand the archetypes we can really really use them much more productively but even go beyond them to say okay what kind of a a reality do I want to create and how can I use my birth chart to enable that finding the right moments strategically going for the opportunities so you start to live much more strategically but just to answer you the your question more fully I mean if we take a planet like Uranus Uranus can have a very Savage kind of cutting off side it can be you can really feel abandoned with it and this can start in childhood that either mother or father weren't emotionally available to you so a pattern a script is set up in the neural network if you like of I am abandoned I am regularly abandoned there's no emotional support and I remember a lady coming to me and with every big Uranus Transit she'd had she either got fired or the partner left her or the husband left her or you know there was this cut it Savage emotional cutting off but when I helped her understand firstly how that had developed from childhood but secondly that each of those um occurrences events were actually her subconscious need for freedom but she was making it happen in a very uncomfortable way you know she was being freed by being fired from her job or let go in the relationship she could re that really turned her whole life around just that simple explanation started to turn her whole life around because she started to track her Uranus transits coming up she was going to have quite a few and just stepped into this completely new life of Independence and freedom and emmigrated and you it was very different so it can be enormously empowering and I like to use astrology I you know it I don't like to be too predictive because I think astrology is only half the picture the other half is our free will and so I really want to empower people with it rather than saying XY Z is going to happen and we're all doomed you know there's no hope we're all doomed I mean that is not a great use of astrology because the last thing I want to do is put people into fear particularly at the moment I want people to take the AR the the prevailing AR astrology of the of the time the prevailing archetypal patterns and say okay how can I live the best possible life how can I make this Earth and all the people on it have the best possible experience and be really standing proud in how fully I've used the astrology to its best am I making sense there Katherine I 100% I 100% And I I I'm right there with you because I believe that whatever is uh available to us it's the meaning that we give it so for me I know that when Pluto um did the whole transit in Aquarius people like oh my God you know there's going to be all this change and all the breakdown of all these systems and and I looked at that as like wow this is great we're we're stepping it to change but everyone there was fear so I really believe that a lot of it is the how we interpret or our perception of what's taking place also plays a part on how we then uh experience what's taking place 100% I'm so with you on that Catherine and it's something I've been talking about a lot recently about what is your filter what is your lens because if your filter is always you know life treats me badly I'm a loser things never work out for me that will be your reality if your filter if your belief system is these are amazing times of change and I'm just going to ride these waves to the best place I've ever been in my life and take the collective with me then that's a very different filter and that is more likely to manifest because that's your belief system so that's something I've really been hammering home recently because as I say I really have got to the place where I think astrology is just half the picture it's what we do with it then um and don't go into fear yeah yeah I know and that's and it's it's easier said than done too right I mean I don't watch the news I haven't watched the news forever uh purely because I'm too sensitive I am well Pisces sun scorpion Moon scorpion ascendant very sensitive so for me I just stay away from that kind of uh information um but you know one thing I did want to say as we are speaking the before we got on the show we were talking about our body what we experiencing and I know there's been an increase in solar flares CMEs humanum resonance so obviously we it's doing something to our body I can feel it it's doing something to our DNA it's doing something to our Consciousness and this is the part where as we're speaking about how do we dance with these archetypes how do we navigate through this storm of these changes that are taking place because I feel like I'm having a lot of out ofbody experiences yeah and this will accelerate the psychic sensitivity for people will accelerate massively because we really are changing form if you like from carbon to crystalline and this is over a very short period I mean apparently on other planets um this kind of Ascension took hundreds of years for us it's really taking from about 2012 to about 2032 but we're already ahead of schedule with that we're actually doing very well on this evolutionary pathway but it's very concentrated it's very fast in this lifetime there's no rehearsal for it so what is happening is a whole Confluence of of of situations really about every 12,000 years our solar system goes through through an area in space called the photon belt uh the galactic Ripple sheet and the photon belt and there's much more concentrated high frequency light in that Photon belt so that's what the Earth is moving through right now so many people can see this sparkly diamond light that we haven't seen before you this is relatively new for us at the same time um because the the Earth's and the sun's magnetic Shield have both dropped quite significantly and if you think of those like cotton wool buffers that we've always had we've had two layers of cotton wool buffers between us and you know the cosmos because they've reduced significantly the Earth is now much more open to these balls of radiation that the sun is throwing out and so these are actually although they're uncomfortable and those are the things that make you feel dizzy and hard to sleep and all the other or extreme fatigue or tinitus or you know all aches and pains all the other symptoms they are actually ingredients for our Evolution because what they're enabling us to do is to hold more light in our bodies to become the light body um and so both of these ingredients if you like are activating our DNA to remember all the other strands that have been dormant and apparently our 24th chromosome which Greg Braden talks about as well 24th chromosome which links Us in to our multi-dimensionality our expanded awareness n are links to the you the all the star families really that are our heritage that's what's happening right now but all of these physical changes are happening as a result of the spiritual Evolution and so although our Instinct as human beings is kind of you know what's happening to me I think the more we welcome them in as an ingredients for our Evolution the easier the ride will be if we resist I think as with anything in life it gets more difficult so I always say to people you know we're welcoming in an expanded consciousness of love because that's really where we're headed with all of this so I struggle with sleep as well believe me so but if we welcome them in seeing them as ingredients for a FasTrack Evolution if that's our filter we will have an easier ride because it's happening you know we'll either have a rough ride or an easy ride it's up to us which we choose really because of our filter so so it's happening to all of us right it's not just any it's not the people because you know you hear some people like oh well I'm more into spiritualism and I'm awake so I'm going to be you know down that track I'm going to be the enlightened one and and move down that path and then those that aren't will be going down this so I I still hear of separation and I just don't see it that way I see it as where one and consciously we're all going through this how we're responding or reacting dependent on a baggage I guess the baggage because I wonder like when light if I think about light when light comes through if we've got a lot of baggage um and I'm just talking from healing because I used to do a lot of raiki say all of that when I was a lot younger it just it it takes a lot longer to work through so I feel that that probably shakes people up a lot more than knows that probably done a lot more of that healing or energy work or working with the vibrational frequency I think the light would would be a lot easier on them is do you think that yeah yeah yeah absolutely I mean we are one Consciousness I I absolutely believe that we are one Consciousness um but but people who still need to work through some of the baggage and that's not that's no judgment you know we've each got a different um Karma we've each got a different soul contract in a different place really on our individual Journeys but if they if they still need to do more work the analogy I like to use is being at an airport some people are on fast fast track now and some people are on slower track but we're all going to get on the same plane we are all going to get on the same plane so Unity Consciousness um absolutely no doubt but there are diverse expressions of that un uh Unity Consciousness depending on where you are at in your spiritual Evolution and again no judgment on that so I think if you've done a lot of spiritual work you've worked through a lot of your baggage I do think you will be to a large extent bubble wrapped I do think you'll have an easier smoother ride it's almost like sticking to the the kind of air airline airport analogy we've all taken off in a plane on a windy day and at lower altitudes it can you know it's really bumpy as you're taking off very EK but as break the cloud level you start to have a smoother ride very very quickly so you could be over pretty much the same geography but you're at a different altitude so if you substitute altitude for frequency if we've been able to raise our frequency enough we're going to get a smoother ride through this but we're all heading essentially for the same destination and we are one Consciousness yes I love that analogy that's just because I'm a visual person I love that that analogy so how do we raise our vibrational frequency how do we so that we can tap into that you know that smoother ride that you speaking about rather than going through the you know the the bumpy ride yeah it's interesting I did a whole video on this recently for a for a sort of live Workshop um and I think there are lots of I'm a very simple being I'm I call myself a certified Bumpkin I'm a very simple being so I found lots and lots of simple ways in my life to do that be in nature bare feet on the grass just listen to the birds and just try and be blank at times just be get out of the mind and into the into the heart and that very simple technique of just it's the heart math technique and it's a yoga technique if you just imagine that you're breathing in and out through the heart just imagine that you're doing that um it can slow and de and your your breathing you can go even deeper particularly if you're struggling to sleep you can do the yogic baby belly breath where you breathe like a baby you know let the breath breathe you so you just drop into your belly Focus 100% on the breath let the breath breathe you and gradually gradually you will slow the breath deepen the breath and in in moments you're reducing your cortisol level you're boosting your immunity you're changing a whole series of biomarkers in the body which is measurable if you did a blood test just by changing your breath I would deliberately take time out through the day to do that and whether you you just literally have a default method of for you what is it is it closing your eyes and dropping into your breath is it hugging a tree is it listening to bird song is it is it hugging your child wild and laughing and playing you know have a series of markers through your day so it isn't just a tunnel of stress um and and I would milk these things as well you know milk it if if you if you hit a good moment like when I'm out in in in nature and the spring leaves are starting to come out now I know you're at the other end in Australia but the spring leaves are coming out and there's an kind of electrical life force in nature and you think wow just look look at those trees and look at the green I drive my friends crazy look at the green you know look at the green isn't it beautiful look at these flowers the primroses isn't it be so I egg it up I milk it to really see the glass continually much more half full than half empty and if some stressful because people send me stuff all day long and I'm sure they do to you as well Catherine if something stressy comes my way you know you got to watch this video if I feel my frequency drop I will just switch it off immediately and I I let my state of being be the most important thing that I focus on through my day what's my state of being I say to people put not Post-it notes all around your house what's your frequency what's your state of being and you can find simple ways just to flick it you know think of a loved one listen to the birds you know laugh with a friend you know it's simple simple simple whatever it is find simple ways of just flicking your state of being to get out of it and that then changes your your natural default State and you start to naturally raise your default state so you've got a different set point because you've become a master of your thoughts and your emotions in a much bigger way than you were before we're moving into an age particularly Pluto um in Aquarius where it is very important that we become masters of our frequency we're stepping into masterhood that's one of the best expressions of Pluto and Aquarius if you think of those two jaggedy lines of Aquarius that's frequency you know that's we are electromagnetic beings and so we have to learn ourselves to shift our our frequency our our state of being as an electromagnetic state that can actually be measured through a Magneto andil graph you can you can measure that and so but I also think there's a spiritual responsibility that we have if we're interacting with other people in to any degree we have a spiritual responsibility I think that we always have to leave people better than we found them I make that a real rule in life um and if we all did that you know that cheesy expression of be a smile millionaire was cheesy I think it works because it kind of ripples out so there Lots you know all of these are then it's not a ritual it's not a ceremony there's nothing complicated simple simple simple ways through your day of just kind of catching yourself well I'm not going to go there I'm going to stop there and I'm going to come back to something that will lift my frequency does that absolutely absolutely I always think of is it Jim ran you're the average of the five people that you hang out with you know yes yeah and I I'm conscious of that like and I think that I become very uh you know I've got the picture of the hermit card in my mind right now because I have become very much of a Hermit because everyone uh is very different and I'm not judging at all because I am practicing Pam which has taking me a long time non-resistance non-judgment and uh nonattachment uh to and it's very hard practice a very hard practice because we we've been conditioned to judge uh attach uh resist and so to as a practice has been really really hard for me but I really um want to maybe explore a little bit about the dwarf PLS because I you speak about the dwarf planets quite a fair bit and I love to see how this is in influencing us personally but collectively a as a collective Consciousness yeah beautiful it's so interesting to me Katherine that the these dwarf plants the ones we've discovered so far were were discovered a lot of them by a wonderful astronomer called Mike Brown who lives in um Arizona I believe um all around that area and luckily he's very well versed in mythology so it's it's the discoverer astronomer who gives these dwarf planets their name and luckily he just through synchronicity or he's he's named the planets and and and found archetypes that very much resonate with the way those dwarf planets operate which is wonderful he's given us a real gift with many of them so but they a lot of them were discovered about 20 years ago now they have been out in space for millions of years undoubtedly but our Consciousness hasn't been able to access them until recently so yes you can say we've got stronger telescopes but it isn't just that our Consciousness was not ready to integrate them so they are now becoming a higher Octave of Consciousness I think in in the astrology and that's why they fascinate me because what I call our regular bread and butter planets that I've always worked with they are more expressions of our psychology or our personality in a way these dwarf planets are operating more on a collective Consciousness level almost think of indigenous people who identify with their tribe as their extended family you know they don't just introduce themselves as as as a single person they introduce themselves as part of that Collective that that tribe and I think the part of the magic of the dwarf planets is their helping us to do this helping this sense of altruism Community the unity of humanity pulling together um all of them are very connected to Nature in a very ancient way you know natural understanding of shamanism or Earth's rhythms and many of them are Creator Gods from indigenous myths like algira very linked to the song lines in in Australia um toah tahon hayako Creator farmer god um quaa very linked to the Creator myths around the um Los Angeles Basin the tongva people the original residents there one I particularly love is a dwarf planet called homea um and she's very relevant at the moment and she um is linked to the hne goddess of fertility and she has three different aspects to her archetype one is that she was able to birth babies from all over her body not just the normal places and she could regenerate herself from an old Crone to a young Maiden which you know we can all look forward to so she has an incredibly creative regenerative capacity and she could summon wild food from the land even if it was laid waste by poor agricultural practices she had a magic stick called the maai so there's that aspect of her archetype another aspect is in her fire goddess side she was said to birth the eight islands of Hawaii the you know the volcanoes that that erupted and became Hawaii and in a an final aspect of her archetype um on the island where she lived in Hawaii her partner had had taken some wild bananas from the land and the autocratic leader at the time as the myth goes was going to put him to death for taking the wild bananas because the autocratic leader said we have first choice on the best food and you know what's left can go to The Peasants and so to prevent her partner being killed homea um summoned her community and summoned her spiritual help and in some way overcame the autocratic leader she used spirituality she used Community to overcome the autocratic leader so this is feeding into our Aquarian myth of moving into collaboration and community in a bigger way now um for some years this is exact n for for the next few years she is square to Pluto and she's also in aund 50 degree aspect of Quin kks to sedna so all all of those archetypes are not just about transformation they're about metamorphosis for Humanity and the way we are going to go through this metamorphosis I think is and all of the physical things I was just talking about with the solar flares and the photonic light Etc Etc is to come into Community to reconnect and I think one of the things that the recent pandemic did with all the lockdowns is make us just yearn for human connection and we are now rediscovering that in a much bigger way than we ever would without that pandemic we would have just kept going same old same old you know same job same Comfort pattern but that shook us up to say no I really want to connect with with other people particularly like-minded people and that's happening in groups all over the world I'm in a very big group locally which is just wonderful and you know all of like minds and that's that's incredibly supportive I'd recommend people do that if they can find them yeah I totally agree with it because I think that um for me the the pandem pandemic slowed everyone down to the point where they were able to go inside and I think we were so external focused for such a long time busy for this sake of busyness that we forgot truly who we were and what we wanted out of life so I think there was some great and look you know I've lost lots of people but I've gained amazing people so there's been some great communities uh join you know that that have been formed because of it and I love that I love that you actually just reminded me when you were talking about um uh one of the um uh dwarf AR times um Hawaii the Hera it made me think of I did spend a lot of time in Hawaii I was doing I was studying Huna and um with and so basically we would go to the uh volcano and gift P which was the volcano goddess yeah and so when you were talking about that because I remember we did this ceremony and I was meditating and the water came it the the island is alive the big island but it came towards me and because of my experience I thought this is such a beautiful experience I never want to forget this so I grabbed a Little Rock and I thought I'll take this as as something to um to take home back to Australia the next day in class the Kore said he warned that people that take things from the island have bad luck you should have say Pam within that instant I was under a tree giving the r The Rock back to the island and and asking for forgiveness um yeah so they're very so when you're talking about the taking the bananas and things like that just made me think that it's very sacred the island very very and it's very linked to I think ancient lamoria that said to be the base thought ancient Loria is a a chaper friend of mine Heather Ensworth has interviewed who's still carrying on that lineage living in Hawaii and so I I also think the frequency of ancient Loria is starting to come back now and that as we understand it was the most perfect civilization we've ever had on Earth that we that we know about and I think that frequency is very much coming back and maybe even some of the land because Loria Greg Braden talks about this a lot Loria was actually a huge continent if you look at the ancient maps of a from Asia and Tibet they um they show it as a very large continent that um that sunk under the sea so I I have a strong sense that's coming back at least into our frequency yeah it's that we're going through a a a a like a transformation that our body is transformed Waring that it's it feels like um in a few years time Richard rud talks about it um I had him on the show and he was talking about how and he was talking the beautiful story about the transformation of a dragonfly how it ends up you know in the water when it comes out crystallizing it it it ends up flying so the actual transformation is what we're going through in some way shape or form um which is really it makes me wonder what we're going to look like in the next 10 20 years we will be we will look physically lighter I think I mean I did I don't know if you've heard me talk about it this is gosh I think it's about a year ago now it was at the end of the night and I just had this incredibly Vivid dream it lasted maybe 30 seconds before the alarm went off which was so annoying but I it all it was i' in the dream I was in an empty room nothing in it but it was filled with pink and Peach kind of sparkly light and there was a mirror on the wall and I walked up to the mirror and I was just pure light my eyes were absolutely extraordinary I was just pure light and then I just started to lift off I just started to levitate and the alarm went so I saw myself as the light body and I really and i' I'll never forget it was so pin sharp it was kind of third eye sight because my own eyesight isn't that sh so and that was a promise for Humanity not just for me but for all Humanity so I think as we move forwards I mean the lur were said to live largely in their light body and be attached by silver cord to the Earth and they they ate very very little very lightly obviously no animals they didn't they couldn't hurt another living being and so that is the direction that I I believe we're moving into and yes it's hard for us to understand sometimes because if you do think of the the caterpillar and if you said to the caterpillar do you know one day you're going to be able to fly wherever you like and visit plants and trees and Blossoms and you said you you know I can't move an inch in a day are you kidding me so it's it's hard for us to kind of make that jump in our minds but internally that is the process I believe we're going through there literally physical changes to our DNA to our all of our cells and we are evolving metamorphosizing if that's if that's a word into um into I want to call it a galactic human a galactic human we are going to ReDiscover our Galactic Heritage because we've always thought of ourselves as just human beings with little green men being scary things well that's just not true we're made of Stardust we know that you know the iron in our blood you know the calcium in our bones that's that's come from the the Stars we are we are made of Stardust and so we are very much going to reconnect I think with our Galactic family I mean look at all the people who are channeling palladians and arcturians and you know all of those Galactic beings it's coming closer and closer and I run this very simple meditation um on a Sunday evening at 7:00 I know it's terrible time for the for Australia but it kind of works for the rest of the world and there's so much telepathy going on because more and more people are experiencing benevolent very tall benevolent Galactic beings coming in to support us when we have those meditations which is just beautiful isn't it just be so I think they're so close for us now to help us back into where we've been disconnected with regards to the Galaxy I I have seen such an increase it's incredible and I mean some of them are so profound and you know and but it's almost like when you listen to them it it's there's almost like a remembrance that takes place it's like a connection and you don't even know why or how but there is something there that makes you intrigued with what what is it that I'm actually experiencing right now yeah yeah yeah absolutely so I think our dreams are going to get more Vivid we're going to become more psychically sensitive more telepathic stronger healing ability we're are going to remember these gifts that we've had in the past it isn't that we've never had them we are remembering them you know the veils are dropping away if you like and and our psychic senses are becoming much much sharper and it's happening quickly and I think through even through April actually I mean April is such a big month I think even through April we are going to see some very rapid changes but certainly these next few years are condensed accelerated Evolution for us absolutely so I'm curious Pam what tell me about April everyone talks about April the big it's kind of be like the quantum jump for us what is going on right I there two the if we had to sort of spoil it down there two very big astrological aspects the first is um the total solar eclipse which everyone is talking about next Monday um and it's big because it's total it's big because um it is yet again falling Across America we had in August 2017 we had a total solar eclipse falling northwest southeast um we had another solar eclipse October last year falling northwest southeast this upcoming one on Mondays falling Northeast Southwest with the crossing point being Texas over the last year or so I've been saying watch Texas something is going to develop in Texas and of course you know now they have said that they're not going to obey federal law they're only going to follow the Constitution sort of Border issues of various kinds there but it's more than that um there's a bigger astrological reason where why the US is kind of in the crosswires in the focus because it's also still going through its Pluto return which means that Pluto in its orbit for the very first time since 1776 is coming back to to the birthplace of the US 4th of July 1776 so it's it's for the very first time saying okay America who are you this is who you were when you birthed in 1776 who are you now geographically which states make make up America politically constitutionally economically what are you what's your values system all of those things are are clear in the astrology so this total solar eclipse is going to throw all of that Pluto return into high relief if you like so I think a lot is going to happen in America in many many ways it's going to go through a huge transformation and this is the kind of ignition point for that so the en but of course this is global as well but the focal point I think will be America and whatever happens in America will Ripple out to the rest of the world anyway but the energies of the total solar eclipse are never just for one day they last for the consequences of it last for about 6 months then blending with that we have something called the Jupiter Uranus conjunction which happens on the 20th and again not just for one day this is the ignition point for everything that follows and this happens every sort of 13 to 14 years but in Taurus it hasn't happened since 1941 but it is generally a very exciting and auspicious aspect there's a feeling of wow Freedom Liberation Awakening expanded awareness expanded Consciousness jumps Quantum jumps in our Consciousness Quantum jumps in our understanding a lot of Truth coming to light it it will expand Revolution across the world it will it will shift the power more to the people which is part of Pluto's move into Aquarius anyway it would accelerate that whole theme of there's a shift of power back to the people won't happen in a day a week a month it's the real ignition point for that it could increase seismic activity because Gaia herself is going through her own Evolution um and many discoveries have been made exactly when there was a Jupiter Uranus conjunction you know discoveries about the cosmos G Galileo's um in sort of development of the uh of the telescope uh Landing of the the first man on the moon Jupiter Uranus conjunction um first glider flight J Jupiter Uranus conjunction um first engine powered flight across the Atlantic Jupiter Uranus conjunction people who are Visionaries and have invented amazing new technology for the world have Jupiter Uranus conjunction Steve Jobs had a Jupiter Uranus conjunction Nataly Tim burner Lee who invented the worldwide web had a Jupiter Uranus conjunction so kind of the Visionary awakened mind if you like so this it can be disruptive because it's a jump It's a jumping energy um it can be disruptive but overall it's incredibly powerful to wake people up to help them see from a higher perspective with greater Clarity greater truth um with an excitement and an expanded awareness of with an greater understanding of how our Cosmos and how our reality operates so it's a big and because these two are blending together there's some very rapid changes in the energy which I think we're going to see in April which will then set off a whole series of other events for the for the rest of the year so I never know the actual event I I never know the event because 50% of it is what Humanity does with their energy as we've just been saying so I never know the actual event but I think it's going to be faster Dynamic eventful and exciting so in other words hang on to our pants or our hats and uh get ready for theide welcome it in yeah welcome it in WoW amazing so I'd like to understand when you talk about astrology you talk about it being a sacred uh sacred I think it was it like a sacred the way that you described it with the music and the sacred language I love the way that you describe it and I can't speak like you of course but I love the way that you uh it's like what how we play with it and knowing what's coming knowing with all these big shifts when we talking about these big Celestial alignments I don't know I'm sure there's a lot more to come because people talk about also 2026 is a big time as well 2025 looks looks like we going in for a big a big r for the next couple of years anyway um I'd love to understand because we like I said you just don't know how it plays out and depending on your chart of course because it's we're all unique in that way but how do we play with you first of all how did you describe from a music when you're talking about it's a sacred language astrology and that it's really it's like the music and it's almost like how we're the musicians how we play these notes 100% I mean it's quite a useful analogy because every person's birth chart is completely unique it will never be repeated in history again I mean and isn't that remarkable so that says all of us as special but it's we then have latitude we have free will in how we play that piece of music you know we can just bang a tin spoon on an old box or we can be part of the London film monic we can have a small life or we can have a big life and you know we all kind of sense that dare I do that dare I step out and some of us do and some of us don't so our latitude comes in how we play that unique sheet of music and so that's why I think actually we have a considerable amount of free will having studied tens of thousands of charts I've seen how people have fully stepped into their birth chart and had a magnificent life in terms of helping many other people whereas others perhaps who are more fearful have kind of still held the trapo down and you know stayed stayed small and stayed tight and that's not my judgment that's entirely up to how they run their life you know um as you say no judgment because that's uh that doesn't take us to a good place but it it really is sacred I mean it was one of the key um pillars of teaching one the most fundamental ones in the mystery schools um you know all th all those um thousands of years ago so it has always been regarded as sacred and I think astrology is actually way older than than we even know I mean we in recorded history it is said that astrology began in ancient Mesopotamia about 6,000 years ago in what is now sadly Iraq modern day Iraq but that was supposedly the dawn of civilization with with arithmetic and writing and you know that was the the birth of it all and that's when because people didn't have computers or televisions or Cinemas they just used to watch the planets move around and tell each other stories about the gods who lived on the planets and those are still the myths that I literally use today in my practice you know it's incredible um and it came from about 6,000 years ago however with the recent discoveries and I'm sure you've you you're aware of this Katherine with Robert Edward Grant in the pyramids and the pyramids could be 13,000 years old or older and all of the astrological signs have been discovered Christmas time um inside the king's chamber that must mean that whoever built the king's chamber had brought the knowledge of the Stars the the constellations with them and the estimate is and this this reinforces uh greme Hancock and Robert bal's work as well that the pyramids are 13,000 years older or or or maybe even an entire recessional cycle older than that so that throws the the 6,000 years up in the air because it it's actually a galactic language isn't it it's a language of the constellations language of the planets so I think it's that kind of thing that we are on the brink of discovering right now um but it's sacred because because really you're you're looking at a person's internal architecture when you're looking at their birth chart and so often I think um when I was doing client work I would simply ask a question or plant a seed and they just sit and hold Sacred Space for that to drop which is so much better than me telling them or explaining to them do you know what I mean they have to get to that place themselves so it's the holding of Sacred Space and the the birth chart gives me the questions to ask it gives me the the the architecture of that person's psyche or soul to ask the correct questions to help jump that into Consciousness and Carl Yung Carl Yung as you probably know is a prolific astrologer he was kept very quiet about it but he used to use it for all of his clients because it gave him a shortcut to whatever psychosis they were going through because he could see it on a piece of paper so it's sacred in that way you're you're dealing with something which is really profound and ancient and probably just a continuation of many many Li well certainly a continuation of many many lives for that person you know what is the golden thread that they are still continuing and they still have as we all have lessons to learn in this life and the questions you ask the seeds you plant could help them get to those answers faster I I just think it's the most beautiful modality in so many ways I am I'm I'm shaking my head because I totally agree with you Pam because I believe that um and I was saying this just the other day the other day that when somebody picks up your chart and reads your chart it depends on their length it depends on their perception it depends on their belief system it depends on what how they rechart so I I I think that the way that you do it by asking question you're actually tapping into their own psyche allowing them to bring that archetype to life or whatever that may whether they want to work on Career relationship love Health whatever that may be but you can see it on the chart and therefore you can ask the right question the right thought-provoking questions for them to bring the story to life because it's so much more powerful when the individual can bring it to life rather than somebody that you don't know very well that's got the chart in front of you telling you what's going to happen to you and what has happened to you yeah that doesn't help the integration process for that person to move forwards and you know call Jung's work was all about whatever was stuck in the unconscious that was causing that person the problem bringing it to the conscious and once it's in the conscious mind you can see it release it change it Etc so an astrology is immensely powerful at doing that it's a wonderful tool I love it I love it I always say if you can name it you can tame tame it because at anything that's sitting at the whether it's unconscious or subconscious the moment you can bring it to the Consciousness that when the real work starts happening when you can actually start you know working with whatever is coming up so I love that absolutely love that um there's just one thing is there anything else that you would like to talk about that maybe we should all know that what we should be getting prepared for or getting ready for um because I know I I uh have an hour with you and our time is wrapping up but is there anything that you would like to tell us or or uh give us advice around anything that's coming up that we should be prepared for I think we I think we will go through a lot of change in different ways in different geographies and but feel excited for the journey feel excited for the journey you're a surfer and you're about to surf the biggest wave you've ever surfed and feel excited about that because we're here right now you know we're in it um so feel excited that you chose to be here at this time and and I something I often say and I said it in a post yesterday actually just imagine that you're standing at the end of 2024 and you want to be proud of how you played this year you you might be slightly Dusty and battered but you want to stand proud and say I could not have done more to ride that wave and it was a bit wild sometimes and it kind of kept kicking me off the surfboard but I rode that wave and it took me higher up the beach than I've ever been before have that vision of you at the end of 2024 so that's what I'd say and really you know know that things will be will be turbulent keep your frequency High welcome in all of the ingredients even though physically they're uncomfortable welcome them in I would say because they are they are fast tracking us we we have never I was talking to Dr Jude caran um last month in fact the videos have just come out today I think or yesterday and she as a cosmologist brilliant cosmologist was saying that um this is a completely unique experience for Humanity we have never gone through such a jump in our Evolution as we are in right now we are in it we're in The Crucible of change right now so it's very exciting and our souls chose to be here we might want to check the small print a little more closely next time but we chose we chose to be here so we're in it and you do not want to be disappointed with yourself at the end of the year and said a Shucks you know I went into fear and you want to be proud of yourself yeah I believe that Pam I believe that we chose to be here at this time and an exciting time we we are all experiencing this because we wanted to experience this you know I don't know but sometimes I get a vision me looking down and when oh as a soul that looks like an interesting life I might pick this one and experience it and if I have a look at it we've all had our own significant emotional events that have taken place in life but for me as hard as they were they were the most uh growth that I experience and so that's the way I see anything that's turbulent I think by the end of it we're going to come out bigger and stronger and and and lighter I think we're going to do a lot of Letting Go that's what I'm seeing a lot of Letting Go needs to be done not so much attaining or acquiring or setting goals but what is it that I need to let go of and that comes back to that whole baggage stuff I was I was thinking about is what is it that I need to release and let go of and I do that as often as possible because you know we we believe well I'm really getting into the whole ancestral stuff and so for me we might have carried things for many many many lifetimes and so sometimes we have these occurring patterns that take over and it's up to us to go well it might not be something from this time it might be from another time another place and and it could even be karmic who knows but I think although that's another thing a lot of karmic clearing is taking place what do your thought about that yeah hu huge absolutely huge so much has been cleared purged especially I think this month it's very very strong um purging clearing everything is becoming lighter and um and so but but we had more time before as it were this time it's it's quick there's an acceler ation happening and so yeah ju it I think one of the the golden nuggets I'm going to mention at the end is try and see everything as operating for you rather than at you because in difficult time oh God you know this is just overwhelming and everything's coming at me and I'm struggling and if we can see everything that happens in life and you've just been saying it really is as happening for us the most difficult times prod the most growth that's a very good filter a very good lens through which to see your life so that's actually going to be one of my golden nuggets well you know Pam this is a perfect sick way to go there so as you know we wrap up the show with three shiny golden nuggets so what would you like that is obviously one what other two shiny golden nuggets would you like to leave for our listeners I think living From the Inside Out rather than the outside in because that brings you into your Center your power it's much simpler to Live From the Inside Out rather than being buffeted by the Nightly News so Live From the Inside Out rather than the outside in that really connects you to your your inner strength and lastly always be kind always be kind oh I love that I could relate to the second one mostly because I find that sometimes when I'm feeling a bit rattled or off key I'm external focused and then I just hold my heart just drop into my heart and go inside and that's it's just so much more peaceful there so I do love that one I love all three yeah thank you bless you yeah and I I really understand that I mean the volume of of my work is you know it's just enormous so it's it's easy to get scattered into emails and yeah so I've got to keep on telling myself these things as well you know I haven't cracked them all but I've got to keep remembering all the things that I want my talk yeah gotta keep doing all the things I share with you I have a saying we teach what we must learn 100% yeah so Pam I want to say thank you so much for your time your energy and sharing your wealth of wisdom you're wonderful I love your work I know everyone's going to check you out uh for the people that don't know me from uh don't know you from our tribe and from Australia you're wonderful so keep doing what you're doing bless you bless you bless you really loved it and you asked very different questions Katherine so thank you so much and I really enjoyed it and know have a have a wonderful month it's not going to be dull a wonderful month thank you so much lots of love and thank you so very much thank you yeah lots of love to you too bye for now

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Published: Sun May 05 2024