Conversation between JK Rowling and Steve Kloves (2011)

I always knew they couldn't make the books scene-by-scene as written we'd have had 12 hour long films. I do think we deliver on the spectacle. I think we always tried to make sure there's a heart beating underneath that because what matters most to Joe and to me is that it's emotionally true. Steve really got the books he also got me so this was collaborative and one of the best experiences of my life so we met for the first time in 99 yeah I think ya can you remember that yeah I remember it you know pretty explicitly because it was I had some nerves in meeting you because I thought yeah that I was the yank that you thought was going to destroy your baby and i will fill in and I was very keen on, in some ways trying to communicate to you. I thought the best way was to somehow have someone tell you yeah to take a look at my previous work ...and I clearly wasn't going to pander to an audience but I remember I remember being very impressed by you seriously, that you, I was terrified I cannot believe I could have impressed anyone in that case I was terrified when you're weirdly prescient about the movie business which which which shocked me i was really wary that's the truth of it but meeting you is a massive relief that's good to hear it wasn't really what you know this you're making me laugh I'm still where I still haven't melted completely though yeah well yeah i know the man you said to me you know who my favorite characters yeah that's just for spontaneous and I realized I don't think I've ever acknowledged it even to myself remember very specifically leaning over to you and saying i think i need to tell you the hair is not my favorite character witness fine and I didn't know what you thought I later learned that you thought that I was going to show what you said you know who my favorite character is muscle gonna sing wrong yeah and I love wrong that Romanello loans los hizo regional like everyone loves who couldn't love Ron and I saw ok you love room then okay and then you said the remaining and it was true because of my knee was now care to the Edit state throughout because I think should such this huge intelligence it was really kind of exasperation frustrating character way that was like the girl that bothered you in school because stop thinking about it so not always the easiest to like now when I select my like that about that's what I liked about her no but that you can see how that lead a lot of fears because she wasn't most obvious character perhaps for a person to like or save as a favorite character and also from and like her best was arguably unusual you've got on your knees by the way did you know just the thing i like about all the characters was that they were misfits and almost no more than she um and she had no pedigree at all to be there yeah and I thought we've all I certainly at you know Hollywood is that way is that there's no just gonna show right like you sitting in that bunch who would have full cast entrance exam so you're just there and you like you say I'm here and I'm here to work and no you were very direct with that you work with your hair respectful but you were very directly that this is a good thing I thought it was gonna be good for us because I think there are a lot of writers of books were just happy to have a deal with Hollywood and by the way I understand it was Jane smiley or someone who just said you have my book now i'm leaving because I can't watch this with someone like that and i think that that's a one way to deal with it is one way to do that you clearly were not gonna be that way but you also were you were respectful of everyone but I think you weren't just going to sit there and let someone say something foolish people forgotten is there still people talking about could we cast an american-style anything that point do I was my only against that a you were as well there Ron for some reason the one they thought everyone could be paranaque I don't know what I look and I think that there was a feeling that Harry needed to meet to be a little more wrong like I remember that coming up a few times let's make Harry more of a wisecracker and you said early on you said Harry is our eyes onto the world that's his function I'm reflation is as the observer which was perfect which is exactly as it is in the books initially you see the magical world through the eyes of a kid who has zero knowledge welcome Harry to Diagon Alley so that's how you into the one that uses the scripts were in if you give me a call from harris point of view for for a very very long time exactly i well I thought you were done brilliantly was balanced and one things I tried to say to people was you know ron and hermione is so obviously colorful and interesting characters and inherits a bit of a blank slate and yes i'm just very just hurry well just Harry you ever make anything happen I guess we're different cultures were able to project onto him what they want him to be and I think that's why I've always respected an enormously because the hardest character for me to write like a Gris Nez the first character for you will see the script for you to write in terms of know that but it's the archetype of the hero is me the hero so often is inside the Galahad figures yeah but the the guy without the quirks the guy who simply he's the vessel he's the vessel down is the vessel yeah and and the hardest to play by a mile and downs just done a magnificent job with it and I you know I'm glad to see laterally has got more credit for that why are things in a great job you know in the last picture in particular um David I think Dan's been brilliant all throughout but he's so good in the last movie is done anything in it all in sleeves in the silent moments where he's just you see on his face the the price that he's paid exactly for all these years and he's really brilliant but to convey that was more difficult in his case well I don't that was always something I felt you had a harder job delighted because inevitably filming the visual medium it is so much of what i could do with Harry was have an internal soliloquy you know I could show carries in musings I could take the reader into Harry's internal space and show them around this character whose life is maybe eighty percent internal you're forced to show us that externally so I always felt that you had a much rougher job than I did when it came to Harry the character you're talking about trying to to dramatize that internal life my first r-rated script when he was in the the cover I I invented a spider named Alastair who we talk to and he used to fit used to some Nick broken soldiers out of the rubbish bins a line them up on the shelf and its broken army that you that Dudley had thrown out such a great image the broken and you talked to him in what was the point was that he seemed slightly mad when I wrote the first draft and then which one Haggard appeared you thought he was out of his imagination for a minute that he had he had someone this fabulous point and that that speaks so perfectly to the truth of the books because I've had it suggested to me more than once that Harry actually did go mad in the coverage and then everything that happened subsequently is some sort of fantasy life he developed to save himself no and that's where came from it came from the book i mean because when you read the book but you you make it pretty clear that he's an abused boy totally and yeah and so there's darkness there and I and I'm go with that to push that's hard road but then what happened was you know when I was writing it I always dreamed about potter hydrant and it just the other night was yet either saying one of these I mrs. i haven't dreamed about in awhile and the one thing i really really really miss is writing those three characters because i need me to just like show my Harry Ron and Hermione in all my handwritten manuscripts is hrh also cool stands for Her Royal Highness matter and and I miss just rushing off a charge charge it's just I'm so many times those three characters why you're interested I was naturally at us with the trio you have the treo you did that's right already told the truth I didn't want your I feel bad always giving Harry the lead because i didn't think that was more complicated than that you can follow this Harry Ron and Hermione Harry run mine so I would often just say the trio or if I felt remaining with psychological eating a scene in the script i would say hermione trailed by ron and harry and same with the wrong group much stronger in the script the last three movies because he realized him being mature in motion well because he was under the under oppression of his brothers success and so many has to make best friends with the most famous boy and wisdom but his family and him being from was your family gives him an edge over both Harry definitely and Hermione at a certain point in his instincts are sharper than there so he became really wonderful character right in Reverse Oh brilliant playing him um I think be so underestimate Rupert out into place that carotenes that full no joke I'm in love with you find your number that you're actually matter you introduce me I don't think Rupert ever felt the slightest bit of angst he just walked onto the set it seems to me I mean make that's true genius isn't it knocked out prudently went back to his dressing room and play darts from it dramatizes in a way that's just so human he's so real quickly and then he's not a while never and that's what I like about never clown but then it turns out he complained drama brilliantly as well as the early darkness that's helped it out of him was phenomenal no I love me but I think it's amazing yeah I'm still here for you to carry on let me spoil the fun we should talk about the emailing and that's how we would well there were some it was time difference you are so were with 12 hours apart and we're writers it was a bit like having letters back and forth but we just faster um yeah I mean I think for me it was just simply I didn't know how it would work you're looking back in the last few months I realized that in a way that writing this was a bit like being Bob Woodward and all the President's Men and in and instead of meeting in a garage i would meet deepthroat in cyberspace yes united 917 follow the money all he would say shut up all the character and then he was like that you seek follow character it illegal for me characters everyone read everything I remember we had very that was the emailing thing was you know like it was very easy to email you and invest once asked i think about ron's uncle I said you tell me a little bit i've got a reference him in dialogue and i can pick like five pages of electrons uncle and you don't tell me not just about as fast as my god this is like what what do you not know about this world because I I always says about dragons but I actually because I thought all writers have all writers have done this is say you know there's ten uses for cooking oil they have no idea what the 10 years I just think it's a cool thing to write so ima go to the user dragons were literally 20 seconds later oven cleaner and I was like oh my god I'm really no really no so it was what was great about that for me was it you know it was that it was weird because in a weird way that confirm whether I was going right or wrong and it was um you often would say no you're right you're fine and then there was that there that single the president's main thing you just nudge me tommy was one of the big ones but yes don't be now you like Toby don't you know I mean we're having a job he noticed quite the opposite that was the night that was an example where I already got the email but that was in several work the film's affected me because I don't hold this against him but when I saw dhabi realized on-screen the first time I was not happy person and I thought is not good enough it's it looks fake my sister when he came back for godlike first draft I sort of I guess I put in the shadows i use that he was literally underneath the the Great Hall I mean you never saw it coming you should have everything you know it's all fine bets a bet that you usually wise don't be under cushion yeah well it's just he might be significantly saying your typical understand it's possible he will be speaking play significant bar so I brought him back and then now charged with what when the guys are given the tools as they were the final time around what they can do with him and because he was now can you imagine living w don't be has no monster doggy is our free out and Dobby has come to save Harry Potter and his friends but that wasn't where the movies affected me but I don't know what I would've done if I not know you were there because they think not knowing where this thing was going to go i cannot think of education when you got it wrong except the Dumbledore beautiful together I think about that i will tell you that i don't have ever told you this it did not surprise me when you told me he was gay edge were remarkably under but because I thought I never this is me though and this is this is the real defective me I never felt that line needed to be internal resistance Romance Writers this is a real defect to me but now what nobody might let line i wrote i thought could be a platonic line even though was about the color hair and stuff and I understood what you were quite right in the sense that most people would interpret as romantic and so we had to go but it was what I wrote it I remember thinking is this right for him but that you know the great thing about Dumbledore's how freaky was just that he would look at anybody in this room you're male or female you would say you know it's like your belt buckle gonna need yeah and that's what I loved about him and he was so much fun to write is you might take this i do love knitting patterns which grade are writing him was the burden you realize that was he was carrying from the beginning to be able to write that and kind of let it out in moments because he's just he's so much the sort of soul of it anyways and he is should I tell you to hire to hide should I tell you to run you run should I tell you to abandon me and save yourself you must do something he's a character I miss most I found him which is always fun to kill well I always knew he was going then you know she repaired it was horrible killing him not I mean you know as a writer it's not the way i think a lot of non writers think he would feel you're very clinical when you do it aren't you you you you have to be directed chip advice in the heart thing you've got to get it right you're very dispassionate you're the director yeah but then afterwards I'll never write again and although i knew i would write him again in flashback and so forth he wasn't saying it was real power that kings crossing and I feel because Americans and i love it if i start i wanted more did you yeah did you feel how much know she's like you boys it was dizzying because you have one great moment which was I think if you so desired you'll be able to board a train and let it take me on some brilliant you know it's just like you steve roberts offer you know if you know that but it's just what i like about that scene and you really got in the script Dumbledore's lighter then is me if you get the sense they're apart isn't exactly exactly this is your party he's free he meant well he's free he's played his part he knows he's done it properly he knows he's brought Harry where he needs to go he's free which was very very rarely get with Dumbledore throughout all seven books he very rarely makes although as you say he is free about other people nobody to show you made me reserved about himself very and it's always done with humor and flute and flippancy talks about it well it's pretty much at the Albert for thing which is the easiest you really know my brother yeah well he ever mention me never mentioned SI and family heritage sort of you know mention it because i actually wrote a moment in the scene with that before before the interrogates castle where ever for keeps pushing his buttons and any faces what you believe my brother why do you believe my brother and he's just gonna have to well yeah screams I'm just have to because if I don't I don't know who i am and we realized in weight Dumbledore hit molded him yeah and so you know but I think everyone was sort of uncomfortable with that except me but its measured i think the dr zakir think you and I akula cruel cruel yes Oh yet especially I think emotionally very similar in that but we tried to we were more comfortable with ya with coldness I suppose a certain coldness but some people do find that very attractive unattractive my own sister you know there were times in the road when reading the novel i remember when hydrate goes underground after its discovered heater and this is in the parts of the book not mine is that a half-breed germany and she said why did dumbledore go down sooner why didn't you why didn't you go and see and all you know that's my cough that people learn their lesson sometimes so detached is like you but I think it's why it's are things where children respond so and I think so when they read these books it seemed had the more than a little with reality I think they know the world's a hard place children yeah childhood is the reverse of warm fuzzy my childhood wasn't warm fuzzy the playground is a brutal place now one off your opinion you filthy little mudblood it is Lord the size of the place where you guys going slow so many parts of readers have had this conversation with so many of them saying it gets better it's really traveled throughout the world is everything sure they also were people realize that a lot of people you know i think you said you know your your your life your life story became more to Kenzie and with each passing year the books became more success with you you suddenly you're a streetwalker you or a heroin addict me but the truth is you do not have it easy and it is a remarkable story and you were writing them in coffee shops and you were you imagining them on trains and there's there are young people like that who are feeling you know that things are not going their way and what they can do is they can sort of come out of it and-and-and-and you proven that i mean and i think the characters and potter would always sustained to me the books was that they're really rich and there they feel real and the dimension of them as extraordinary but not knowing where this thing was going to go was unnerving at the other i but but it was it's funny I actually sort of enjoyed chasing the end and i think it was easier to do because what you said earlier which was it I always thought your primary concerns character complete and things like it's not what talents you possess it's what you do with them and those who the notes are trying to show really really early on because i remember you saying to me maybe around about the time of azkaban yeah the Magic's gone to strip that out the way the reason people like the book says characters yeah and that's I think that's completely the best is sure the books and the films are in looked rather going after the first day we met this is this was the moment it's done i remember you are you saying you know there are other movies can be the books i said really and you go get it I know what's coming and she's not going to do it because you were you were really sort of doing goblet of fire at that point then you said it's not going to be possible without the movies being eight hours long after was so against oppression and you said because I said and you said something very specific should look all I ask is that you be true character yeah yeah and just remember saying that you and yeah i think what would happen for me was it was not anything that you did with the world did which was that what happened was what brilliant text became sacred texts and and and i think which is not an easy position to be nobody's Alistair was gone and for the most part the broken soldiers were gone and it also is because when Chris came in and I understand Chris we want to have great fidelity to the text in and it became out of enthusiasm but it was harder than to improvise and it i'm not saying that was the wrong decision i'm just saying that I think by the time that the funds are came along we had to yeah we had to change the look at this time what people have more confidence i think that as a series went on though I think that you will give them a more latitude to improvise as you say and I think that was great for the film's you would always encourage though you always this is the army everyone always assumes is it out check out word but actually good through person I used to see Jake change it well i was saying before we started this that to someone that either people think you were standing like a taskmaster or they weren't involved at all and the truth is you you were always my greatest goes well I I could have used you even more but you were always just my greatest ally I mean even I mean I know perfectly well there were things that were very usable in goblet and Phoenix if you weren't going to make the eight hour movie I mean as it turns out i said two years previously which i can remember tool but I knew that that's what you were thinking that you were writing Garber the 22nd you knew how big I in the scale of how he whined out and there was just no way and how complex the story was so I think that's when we had just make those decisions that was something that's difficult in a novel that season in a film because that one of my hugest challenges in writing the part series was you've got this this boy who's 13 years old who I know in four years time has to take on the greatest art Wizard of all time he needs a phenomenal amount of information before he can do that and he's trapped in a boarding school so the books became broader if you like I know they also became longer because i had somehow to move Harry outside that school and give him access to places and people he would not normally have come into contact she was training him up so i had to take him to the Quidditch World Cup I had to take him into the ministry of magic this is what bolt up those books four and 5i he had to go and make some contacts and see some stuff that he simply couldn't possibly do at school otherwise you get the power rangers where the forces of evil attack only within about a square mile yes ya know about me becoming overcome very visionary yes Ben and I didn't awful that was a logistical problem in the film's it was a bit of a gift because you got to do these fabulous locations and you could convey so much just visually just you in 30 seconds of well-written script you could say what it took me four me pinches to tell the reader and saying so it swings and roundabouts and I know that we both have particularly torturous memories of completion fire yeah amy was never easy in a way but because i think what's so special about the books is the the detail and so I always sort of endeavor to put the detail and i will actually teach I mean even I always put the small magic was often more evocative in the large but I think when remember when we got together to fire when Chris had ambitions to do all of the movies he and I had talked at some length about cover firing two movies the thing is with goblet the things that we lost were not necessary to the center of central plot i know there are things in both goblet and Phoenix i'm going to defend all of the other books to the hilt but in both goblet and Phoenix there was stuff to lose I know it the thing that I I slightly regretted in goblet with some spew hermione's mad campaign to liberate ourselves who actually didn't want to be liberated because i wanted to explore the fact that there was endemic injustice in that world and it gave Hermione has a dimension that she hadn't quite had hitherto she was this quite shrill I think very plausible and I speakers one who was per- you know a bit of a goad you know a SWAT but this was about something else this was quite altruistic she was the first one to show political awareness and then and ron who was always taking this completely forgot to tell us how is they work for you you know this says something about Ron who's actually very sympathetic character but has always assume that was great tension is your attention to that your character but where did it lead well I suppose you could argue it led kind of in a convoluted way to Bobby's death copy happy to you in his friend every part it gives that some flavors i wanna see you you said things are very really a payoff 3 I want the reader make the younger either to understand when dobby chooses to die that way wow you know this is from an oppressed minority many of who wouldn't even chosen not to do their domestic services and wow what a great guy w what I feel good you know that was so that I was i suppose there was a lot of that in there goblet the bar talk about Bodie Crouch arcanious not trying to your partner into one of the ministry's summer internships are we last boy went into the Department of Mysteries never come out that story I must have spent three or four much trying to make dramatically comprehensible on-screen and every time i did it you know everyone you know I am so sorry Steve because I handed you a problem that had tortured me because the scene at the Quidditch World Cup where you first see but don't see body crouching don't know what's going on the part mark appears for the first time and it's incredibly obscure in every sense what's going on then and trying to make that appear in any way and coherent but agreed while obscuring as much as I need to do is get was terrible I i had about 13 draft of that chapter literally i think i did have 13 drops and then instead of saying wow this isn't you know maybe this is too complex I just said there you go you do it but just how i felt that my thing I felt was that it was really at the time we had started to somewhat diverge because we had to a little bit from the text with azkaban yeah and what God let became was the moment where we said there is now really a movie tail and there's a book tail the narratives are definitely reflective of one another but they are slightly different and so that's really what happened goblet it was i'm going to say i think is remarkable you deviated as little as you did it too much to the central important driving plot I think you better be deviated yeah you know what I'm saying that central strand of DNA is very recognizable in both bookend and filmed the movie actually I know a lot of its it's their favorite and I've had that over the years that a lot of people come up and like that movie in particular things because much of what he did the search sensibility Mike brought to it the thing about my cozy was English sort of without even trying i think the school thing you feel then I me totally feel that movie Mike nailed the Yule Ball so perfectly driving control that a few times i love that was one of the highlights of the series for me as the ball scene i couldn't improve it on it in any way shape or form visually it was perfection the performances are stunning it's Pacey because that could have brought all of the action to a whole couldn't it could happen so as we can paste such problem with the film's I know because the book high-frequency gather my characters together with sit down and have a conversation three hours you don't do that for you want to do this thing which you should drive me truly insane which is a chapter would end and then the next chapter again over the next three months not much happened there right now right now it's winter and am i doing montage come on what are you i think im gonna hate that thing of all you see the dissolved and I certainly don't exactly spring flowers and you know directors look at you like you're mental but um we haven't mentioned David Gates the the two things are great but David which is that most directors if this conundrum and on a Friday you're talking about is I think about it over the weekend you think about this talk on Monday most directors don't think about it all of you expect you figure it out um das actually thinks about every weekend may ruin you know his wife's weekend thinking about it so you come to which i think i figured it out and he has figured out you like Jesus scary actually works but it also he's here really good natured which I i am convinced cloaks and absolute you know massive hostility and so it's just so nice everything I've never say not be nice i think that may say more about you and your favorites if it does whatever you have to imagine nice enough people is not just too nice quiet it is in the film business stuff plus 1 2 pi was really wonderful anyone this but the one thing is and and i will say it is the material again i have just say that it has attracted not in the greatest acting talent it's attracted remarkable directors I do think you know I'll find her a great deal to do with that i think when i found to agree to do the third one it was sort of like sending a message to the industry that he thought that it was worth his time something he wanted to spend time on and because they are two two-and-a-half your enterprises and we're very lucky that we deal i mean when you look at what the director has to jungle on Potter it's staggering i can remember following chris around having a conversation watching him running just to test some pyrotechnic effect running over here to check something going on Chris and roll for their running back in food to finesse something on the script you know it just and and the physical scale of everything he's expected to manage plus a cast of at times 200 you know insane but also the movie said were were enthusiasts and we love the mature I don't know anybody who worked in the primary group that didn't love the material when no one did it for like a job my god i don't i used to come away from leaves in virtually every time every time thinking I have no idea on a train and now 250 people are excitedly showing me latex goblins and remote control giant spiders and they're just building a ministry of magic I mean it was unbelievable and i will I thought the pride I felt just that that group of people were assembled because i had night around a train in 1990 can you imagine and that's nice but not every me to imagine I'm guys must be extraordinary people what was remarkable bad it's like there's a moment in the last film which I think certain bodies like you're talking about all these people basically living and breathing what you did and and is with the Dragon breaks through the roof of grits it pauses it breathes in air through its nostrils because it's a bouquet of roses because it's been this musty confinement for decades and and it's just small moment thats Sarah moment that you are so very much to me because in the first book when i wrote they say there are dragons guarding something high-security volts and I because i can't just write that not think about it I you know this packing 93 or something i'm writing this and thinking God keeping a dragon down there that's a winged animal you know that's not right so I got my chance and seven to do this enormous set-piece scene in the book where they free and it's it's sort of bringing bringing to light literally but figuratively all the injustice is in that world that's what they're doing Harry enters this beautiful world filtering with jewels and gold and green guts but it hides ugly stuff you know it was up it was a metaphor for me but when I wrote that scene i'd always sort of kept my powder dry through the series in the books I've never gone for the massive effect because I knew that in seven there were a few things I wanted to do obviously that was going to be the big battle of hogwarts but that dragon bursting out of bring goods was major as was the themed fire in the room of requirements yeah so we're suddenly you really show what magic continue really go for it you blast a part of the rules and the regulations that was such fun to do so what it wasn't directly influenced by the film after I've written the dragon scene which meant a lot to me for the reasons I've just mentioned I been for asking but we know it was a close one that actually it's funny missions i thought that it was going to be the more challenging one specifically with your the gym no curse maybe the gym and open everything you touch will multiply and I thought how we're gonna do this because i really had concerns about that in actually brilliant it is and it's because one of my favorite parts to me yeah but again you have that moment where term Isis that's barbaric but I think again it's about the this world is cruel and it's as cruel as our word oh yeah it's just it's a mirror image yeah yeah and just as they can solve things that we can't solve so they can create problems that we don't have and that's that's that's always been the problem for Harry that he enters this world and believes it will be an escape and it's not human nature is human nature whether or not you can use a wand yeah so we talked about cutting but speaking about something that I never wrote that i thought was perfect and I loved you know i'm going to say yeah the dance dance yeah i mean the dancers funny because i had the idea for a while I was writing half-blood prince i was driving home one day after work in haplin princeton and I had this idea for a song came on the radio that well what if you know the radio becomes identify with Ron and Hallows it is we're trying to check on his family and what if when he leaves the radios that behind come circuit for him and Harry trying to emotionally real her money back in order feet he stumbles on a muggle station and they both grew up as models and he plays the song but it's one thing to write that and to write the levels of it which I'm not going to lay out but they're very complicated and there's nothing to play it and one of those i'll never forget the first time I saw when I saw in New York you could hear a pin drop because people were scared about where it was going and that was its intention actually inland and they communicate and then a was yours and i loved it so much and you and I who are violent violently allergic to sentimentality in your form yeah and what I loved about that scene was it everything you just said it's just on the edge of where is this going to topple over until my god they're not going to kiss on me are they are they are they so I'm feel incredibly uncomfortable borderline embarrassed very very moved it's just perfect I loved it as an idea and you and I had a conversation by email actually I always assume we actually have a conversation but i'm sure it was emails over here but we were talking and you said that when they were in the tent together you thought something was gonna happen yeah I didn't read the novel and I as i was writing it yeah felt a real pull between every single yeah really in a sense give me the license to the scene as I knew that emotionally mysterious the character I wouldn't happen you're alone you might die any day yeah the thing that's been holding you to come in ron has always been the necessary component there and he's gone and why wouldn't you look for comfort I think it's more likely than not accept that then runs got to come back and they gotta go to look him in the eye and I didn't need that emotional effect yeah and I think it's a measure of each carrier my lover on that it doesn't happen in and I think also that it was one of those things that had something have it was very weird the next day Mary with an extended two-man tent yeah I nowhere to run yeah I'm it was that was it but i think what was interesting about it was that I thought I would get real push back on that scene you know I have to send you to the hilton looks like he was perfect it was reversed and you more no more than know it was most enthusiastically embraced by on Emma and Dan and so it was that told me the work that was because it was emotionally true what you've written and I think that if you follow it automatically and you're true to the characters it's hard to go wrong if you're true to them even if say the incident is not identical to what was in the book but that wouldn't ask you mean we've talked about this a little bit in the past but was it did in any way when the movie started to appear to affect your writing at all I mean with her in any way were you able to kind of put blinders on and no i didn't i think i had such deep roots with the characters by then 99 I was nine years in by the time we met right so nothing was going to shake that the only person who ever well actually you did because I don't know whether you remember this but i was writing goblet and i emailed to your email after a lot to you because you had a slight crisis yeah I always percent if you you know I'm just smiling a slight hard street day yeah that wasn't such a good time for me I was having a big crisis and i remember and emailing you and saying this backstory on Haggard it's too much it's gonna be such a long book don't remember you said put in so i couldn't be enough yeah that's what you said you never really got tell me in it into much about how to put in it and that was so yeah you've had a very direct effect their but with this the only exception actor wise to my sort of didn't intrude rule was a violent who play sooner and I feel her voice when I right you know Harry Joyner how'd you know where I want experts had fun of them and I even put painted pictures on the ceiling of beef be literally Lunars room in tribute to available because she the actress herself is so creative she's so talented and I know her well yeah that influence the ritual she influenced the real lunar but you but you had written that you had created the character before you ever had by anti-racism your dispersal and you probably got initially she was a sweetheart we this the strangest things this this goes right into me saying I am I am lunar and she was writing it just lovely letters and i was writing back soon well you certainly seem to be a lot like you know you know didn't know anything about it then they have this open call audition how many 100,000 girl I think will make 12,000 receive strawberry and then I walk into my office and my PA says they found lunes that Christ that was getting around a wire and she said her name's have a knowledge and I need you because finding out it's been writing to me so yeah so she was spotted completely supportive but that's the kind of thing that happened in part a bit of Yankee with got another weird times today but is there anybody else in there in in the books that you feel you were you know you yourself most comes into evidence 15 the great truism is that you are every one of your characters isn't it and I think that's true of me and that doesn't make me you know multiple personalities to you have to feel everything outside just little yeah I hide that well but you know I think I think about death and dying every single day of my life and I've never written anything including the stuff post potter that hasn't been all hugely from death so i think all the themes are things that just preoccupied me as a human being all yours they wrote death and I went even when you're very young and you know what I think even before my mother died when I was relatively hours in my mid-twenties i think i did think about it quite a lot i can remember as even as a child thinking about it a lot so I'm was born that way apparently what about you know when somebody said I came out of the womb melancholy about you said you know that i looked at me like I expected this one to be there when I got slapped on the ass that was coming yeah i think is what you said and I i identify with all the characters and I think it's why I so loved your book you know you should be good at writing women yeah I would like that on what you are unusually look very unusually good because most heterosexual men male writers in my experience are not to be good I'm anything else to like women and I I really good at writing women's people yeah awfully good its yeah at writing women as manifestations of their own desire well I think there's a death the death of that in hollywood right and has been for years and continues which is that you know humor is an absence often even among our best directors and and you know compelling female characters and I think I had fairly compelling in my life i think i was lucky my mother was you know powerful presence in my life and I knew her value and she's an interesting books she just chooses she was complicated rich character and is a very gentle and so I like wearing women's my pride my favorite thing i really really love writing when I gotta love writing luna i love writing you do love luna la luna imma just love riding for justice I love that that's the most brilliant sensibility to me which is just that he doesn't want to talk to us right now just hit like and I just know it just it just sushi is next yeah she said something that's sort of rude but it's so nicely yeah he like okay you know how can you not respond to that yeah how is it for you the first time you see the movies is it is it strange is it is it i feel incredibly apprehensive always I think ninety percent of feeling apprehensive is because i have to go back and look at my work somehow you can you understand that so you really are going back you're so far beyond were always so far beyond what we were that's weird I always trust you guys I'm always sure you've done a good job but I'm excited huge excitement but always laced with apprehension and then i have to say the last two particularly I mean all of them walked out very happy but the last 2i was expected I've been it started you ever become a burden in a way the whole thing that mean did you ever feel each other long pretty disturbing back in the coffee shop yeah yeah but you can sit in the coffee shop now I can't know what I mean any one who creates longs for I think an audience and what's happened to i think the line is that two-way pull as a writer resume you what you want people to read it but I think it's almost a necessary condition of writing that you have a degree of anonymity so that has been strange so I no reason I haven't published you know it's been very deliberate decision it's not there's nothing to publish is just a guy want girl let some things settle before i take any decisions on doing that and that's been great so in it so I in it in the most important since I've got it back now because i only I know the characters that I'm working with now then it's my private Kingdom again I i reclaim that but I'm never going to lament the fact that so many people got to go to hogwarts know it it was wonderful i see it as a liberating thing more than I see it as a confining thing I'm consonant told me your yeah must be such a burden you never write anything that popular again i know of course I want course I'm I'm they're way ahead of you i knew that back in Azkaban of course I want but I see that is liberating harry potter set me free you know i can afford in every sense including the material now to do what I like and if the next book i right please three people so be it that's known as a writer really want to do what they do and i am but i think I'm very lucky person but the magnitude of i was thinking of seeing someone I you know I'm kind of just really hoping that you write your writing something that I can adapt just because I has been really remarkable and I'd that rarely happens and it was a remarkable group of people yeah I have to say I mean what are the odds of it happening I mean that's the century what were they frame do something no damn letters to lay something came whizzing down the chimney has he spoken quarter sharply on the back of the head next moment 30 or 40 letters came pelting out of the fireplace what bullets the dursleys duck but Harry left into the air trying to catch one Ron actually tell you most muggles aren't accustomed to seeing a flying car right from press the tiny silver button on the dashboard the car around and vanished and so today Harry could fill the seat vibrating beneath him three times ready she said breathlessly what we doing he said completely lost her mind attorney hourglass over three times the dark war dissolved Harry had a sensation that he was flying very fast backwards a blur of colors and shapes rushed past him his ears were pounding he tried to yell but couldn't hear his own voice and then he felt solid ground beneath his feet and everything came into focus again

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Keywords: harry potter, harry, potter, jk rowling, jo rowling, steve kloves, conversation, writing, screenplay, movie, warner bros., daniel radcliffe, emma watson, rupert grint, dan radcliffe, david yates, alfonso cuaron, mike newell, chris columbus, philopser's stone, chamber of secrets, prisoner of azkaban, goblet of fire, order of the phoenix, half blood prince, deathly hallows, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, fantastic beasts, dumbledore

Id: Me3SbSWhICg

Length: 47min 28sec (2848 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 15 2016