Constructicon Misconceptions 2.0

welcome back Autobots into septic cons to another episode of fixing transformers in ten days are going to take a look at the 10 constructor cars I form up in the Devastator in this video we'll be to end all be all Myka Shotokan saga that is spread over four different videos with this one being a definitive version of everything you need to know about the mighty Devastator so basically view this video as a Constructicons misconceptions 2.0 so to start off to construct a concert group of Decepticons I take the form of various construction vehicles many sharing alternate modes and body types but when combining into Devastator there's only a core ten of them that could do so well for ampage and demolish are filling in for skipjack and scavenger on extreme circumstances but before we move on we need to figure out when the constructor cons arrived on earth and well in movie lord it came down during the events between Transformers 2007 and revenge of the Fallen which takes place in 2009 and I think that they came down to earth from an invitation message from Sam wave similar to how Optimus called for all Autobots to come to earth at the end of Transformers 2007 and if you remember it was sound waste plan in the first place survive Megatron proving by the fact that he sent ravage to retrieve the Allspark shard and nest in Diego Garcia and later he would send to construct a Kahn's perfectly on a collision course to Megatron's body to revive him along with him working with humans since the 1970s for his own greater Decepticon agenda stated by a line that Dylan says in Dark of the Moon you really think you're the first man ever asked to join the noble alien cause who are you you know why we've not been back to the moon since 1972 because these two they came to my dad and they told him to do some creative accounting they got way too expensive to ever go back so he and others shut down the American and Russian space programs and they've been our clients ever since so if does information out of the way we can now hammer down Soundwave being the sole perpetrator for the Constructicons that come to earth but now moving back onto the Constructicons once they land on earth they would find themselves ironically in a construction pit mix master would tell us crew to scan any vehicle that would accommodate them in size and style and just like I said my water fight survived Devastator video Mix Master who become the head of Devastator was scanned a Matt granite GU 7:13 cement truck with the original Mack dog becoming a deceptive dog version long howl becoming the right leg a Devastator and also the foot scans a green caterpillar 77 3 B dump truck payload it becomes a left leg scam the yellow caterpillar 773 B dump truck skipjack who becomes a left-footed Devastator scans a yellow caterpillar and nine-thirty bulldozer scrapper becomes the right arm in hand scans a caterpillar 99 2d front-end loader scrap metal who becomes upper left arm scans a Volvo EC 700 C crawler excavator with a Stanley u P 45 SV Universal processor attachment to lift up metal rods high tower becomes a left arm scans a colep Co CK 2500 crawler crane Bucky Ned who becomes a left hand scans according to TF wiki and unknown vehicle but doing a lot of digging I actually found out that he turns into a caterpillar M 930 bulldozer just like skipjack with den of a scooper shovel attachment instead of the traditional blade scavenger who becomes upper body scans a red tracks Oh one krh 400 mining excavator and lastly overload who becomes a lower body scans a red caterpillar 776 B belly dump haul truck but before I can tell you what these guys did in revenge to fall unders to more constructive cons that I would like to cover demolisher and rampage now despite popular belief these guys are not construct akan clones but merely shared the same body type as skipjack and scavenger now on a site no we never did see the robot forms in ravenna two fallen so you could say that out completely different robot forms entirely no though this belief is fun to think about its completely false since if you look at the concept art the scavenger and skipjack designs re colored and reused to become demolisher and rampage and it's also works with our vehicle form says if you look at rampage he is a caterpillar m9 30 bulldozer but justin steady is red with a bit of yellow in the hydraulic system but for demolisher this is where things get tricky since his vehicle mode is a white directs Rh 400 mining excavator well if you remember scavenger was an O and kr age 400 mining excavator and if you look at their names they both have our age 400 mining excavator in their titles but if you notice they are from two totally different companies and it appears they're the exact same excavator so how can this be would it clear up all the confusion here's a little history lesson in 1933 t euclid company was founded by the arming tintin designing and building haul trucks which would later attract the attention of General Motors and they would body Euclid company in 1953 shortly after GM would dominate the industry of their new brand this would later get the attention of the US Department of Justice and they gave an antitrust suit against GM which is basically to anti-monopoly laws and this is used when the company gets really big and no other company can really compete with them so it we'll break that company up into smaller pieces so competition will have a chance to compete now this would force GM to stop manufacturing and selling construction trucks in the US for four years and to divest parts of its nuclear business and the Euclid name and this is where Trax comes into play in the 1970s GM Koine named her ex from the Latin words Terra earth and Rex king for its construction equipment products and its trucks which were not converted by the ruling the remaining parts of the tracks business produced crawlers front-end loaders and scrapers know in the early eighties Trek's fell on hard times during the recession this forced General Motors to sell it attracts brand to ibh holdings but in 1983 do that a recession again ibh would go bankrupt and the ownership of tracks would go back to GM where they would reorganize the brand and eventually sell it off to Northwest engineering where they would expand a trex brand nearly tripling the brand size by 1989 now throughout 1992 98 the trucks brand would acquire many brands one of which would be O&K mining in 1998 where they would later take their own krh 400 mining excavator and rebranded as her own treks RH 400 mining excavator which would finally clear up the misconception on why demolisher and scavenger or the same vehicle but with different names and just for fun here's some extra history with her ex leader in 2010 tur X divested its mining business by selling it to Bucyrus International but before to RH for 100 would get his new design boo cyrus the same year was bought by Caterpillar incorporated we're finally in 2011 they would rebrand our age 400 into the caterpillar 6000 9 B and all of this history of tur X out of the way we can finally move on to what the Constructicons did in revenge of the Fallen sometime after the death of Megatron by the hands of Sam Witwicky sound we've sent a message throughout the galaxy requesting all Decepticons amongst the stars that come to earth many of which would hear this call in oblige within all these a sceptic cons where a group called to construct the cons a faction of artisans that could combine into Devastator a powerhouse of destruction that could suck up anything in its path what's all these Decepticons landed across the globe but it would scan any vehicle that it could find and hide in plain sight until further orders also during this time following the disbanding of sector 7 the non-biological extraterrestrial species treaty nest was set up under William Lennox to create a combined human Autobot defense force against the subject under Declassified alien Autobot cooperation act which stated Autobots with cheddar intelligence and personnel to us now from this point on up until the events of render the fallen mess has been hunting down a septic cons for the past eight months with demolisher being the sixth enemy contact that they would engage sana still restoring this much toxic spill they had to be back the area for search and rescue six enemy contacts at Nona's found out about demolishers whereabouts in Shanghai thanks at a Chinese government telling them about a suspicious report of a mining excavator making its way around Shanghai well his last known whereabouts being at an abandoned steel mill well this info a mine nestled close in on the monsters position with the help of Ironhide to take him out the public knowing about it but this would not go according to plan since when closing in on the mall sure he would transform and smash the ground sending many concrete pipes up into the air hitting meh soldiers left and right before rolling away now an emulsion made an escape plan to book it out of the city since he knew Autobot forces were gonna go after him so he took the nearest highway to evacuate while in the process a thorough cars around him like toys smashing them at will this forced Ness to call Optimus Prime to handle the situation well he would beeline it towards demolisher just as he was smashing an overpass to climb onto him he would request him all sure to pull over but the moss sure didn't won't have any of that so he kept on going until Ironhide shot out his leg supports causing him to tumble off the freeway into a warehouse district where he would like hopelessly while the two Autobots and his soldiers closed in when asked for his last words he warned the Autobots that earth wasn't their planet to rule and at the Fallen shall rise again prime responded with not today and then executed the Decepticon leaving mess to clean up his remains after the battle was done the Autobots went back the nest HQ in Diego Garcia and discuss the incident that went down alongside talking about the location of Megatron's body and the Allspark fragment which was in storage but little did they know that sound was actually eavesdropping on his conversation by tapping into a satellite that was transmitting the conversation to the US military with this new info about Megatron's location and a shard so we've waited until nightfall to eject ravage who would retrieve the shard from the base so we would also contact a constructor cons aboard to Bay AHS Freightliner which would sail over to Lauren Chan abyss once receiving this transmission Mixmaster took a small strike team consisting up of long-haul rampage and scrap metal to sea port where they were loaded on to the bay oz Freightliner which would sail across the north atlantic and over little orange an abyss and once they were above the drop zone they waited for ravage to arrived with a shard and once he would arrive they would dismount the ship going all the way down to Davy Jones's Locker to reach Megatron once they found a body scalpel sada it was beaten up and told to Constructicons that kills a little one to use his parts to fix Megatron one scrap metal was brutally taken apart scrapple slammed shard of Megatron's chest and his broken body combined of scrap metals parts to grant Megatron a brand new body but the spark energy would also spread around the area causing blackout bone crusher and brawl to be revived along with scrap metal since some of his parts are still lying around now if Megatron tried to leave the ocean flight to Nemesis which is located on Enceladus one of Saturn's many moons to discuss a plan of the Fallen to activate a legendary Star Harvester a machine that harvests Energon by destroying suns and this will come into play later but in the meantime Mixmaster strike team would make their way from the Laurentian abyss all the way to New York to wait for Megatron's next orders these orders would be for any Decepticon around the world to make any mischief that they could in celebration of the fallens arrival Mixmaster would take this into his own hands by climbing up the Brooklyn Bridge and smacking the American flag off also during the celebration many Decepticons aloft and nemesis to join in on the action made a significant mess around the world some of which of being the destruction of Big Ben in the US aircraft carrier fleet one such a sceptic on would find Sam's parents and would later hand him over to rampage for interrogation later when Megatron would ordered a Decepticons to go to Egypt Mixmaster would tell us team to wait in a nearby quarry which was directly in front of the Great Pyramid of Giza since underneath all that sandstone would be the star Harvester and once Megatron would give the order the tech constructor Khan's had form up in a Devastator and start to make their way towards a star harvester but now you may be wondering where's rampage during all this well if you remember that one Decepticon protoform got ahold of Sam's parents and he would later give them over to rampage once they were in Egypt where rampage would interrogate them to see if they knew anything about Sam's whereabouts but he wouldn't get any useful information out of them says his parents did not have a clue but rampage would get his big break with Starscream would tell him the location of Sam and luckily for him Sam wasn't that far away and once Starscream told him to spring the trap he would eject Sam's parents to use him as bait and to close in on Sam's location where he would interrogate him to get the matrix of leadership but this would not go according to plan since bone bleed was right around the corner and would take him out very quickly saving Sam in the parents but there's one thing the rampage is character everyone has overlooked and that would be for him not being the type of Decepticon to kill humans let me explain STF wiki states rampage without Sam Witwicky into a trap by holding his parents captive to use them as a trade-off for the matrix of leadership this is also proven that a fact that Starscream says rampage spring a trap this chap referring to keeping the parents alive as bait but if he break down this scene I believe that there's more to it starting off of Sam's parents the only harm that we see rampage do to them is eject them onto the sand and if you look at Judy and Ron they appear to be fine besides the fact that they are a bit dirty from the sand now you may ask why is this important what is because it shows that rampage did not have the intention to harm them whatsoever and think about it like this if you found your parents hostage and you have to trade off the matrix of leadership to get them would it be more convincing if they were beaten up a bit or if they had no signs of harm and I think if Sam's parents were presented as beating up Sam would have given to matrix on the spot even if he knew bumblebee was around the corner but you see rampage chose not to do that and you could say the reason why I did no harm was because the Starscream's orders but I would have to conclude this to be false since when Starscream found Sam he tried to grab him and that grab does not seem like the one to hold you carefully but the one to break a few bones in the process if a more proof and darker the moon screamer was gonna kill Carly and Sam with no hesitation whatsoever so a movie continuity probably told rampage to keep the parents alive in any condition that he chose but also to prove that rampage is not a human killer all his attacks are planned carefully to scare Sam and a team but without hurting them in any way the capitalized more in this let's break down all of his attacks for one if you look when he jumps and lands he makes sure not to crush Sam by using his arms that catch himself but in the process to confine him he also shoots off a warning shot at Mikaela now you could say if she hadn't ducked it with a hitter but in reality the shot would have gone to the left and even if she did stand still she would have not been hit by it and also when rampage goes a smack down his whip he does it close the same as parents but he doesn't actually hit them now the reason why he does his attack as it visibly show Sam what will happen if he doesn't get over the matrix and this reoccurs in the second whip right before bone will be jumps on him and the reason why even one for the second one was since Sam was stalling of giving the matrix he would yet again remind him Oh what happened in the hopes of speeding him up but I did leave out one piece of information and that will be for rampage speaking to Sam and if you don't believe me take a look at this in his line so what wiki is not a throwaway line but it's actually again another piece of his plot of trading off the matrix for his parents so at the end the day I believe that we can conclude rampage being a reasonable Decepticon and it was a shame honestly to see him go because I believe as Sam would have given up the matrix rampage would have left him peace but now let's move back onto our friend Devastator and see what he's up to and at this point in time he would make his way up the pyramid to dig out the star Harvester with the help of his vortex grinder an artificial black hole to can suck up nearby objects once his objects entered there at the point of no return and they are broken down and shredded by extreme temperatures and her later expelled from his back but this digging in the sand wouldn't last long since at this point Simmons had made his way up the pyramid and what radio in a nearby Navy ship the fire his experimental weapon the railgun the guns projectile hit Devastator causing him to lose his balance and it tumbled down the pyramid closing devastators story for the rest of the former Transformers Cinematic Universe but this video is far from over since I purposely have not covered a few things since I wanted to keep the misconceptions part of this video out of the story so let's jump right back into a render the phone and pick apart a few things with the constructor cons I need a little bit more explaining the famous one being the scene on the bay oz Freightliner in this shot we see Mixmaster long-haul rampaging scrapper but when ravage lands rampage gets switched to skip Jack and scrapper to scrap metal but then in the next scene is back to Mix Master scrapper long haul and rampage so why does this happen what a clear this up into shot scrapper should be replaced of scrap metal since he was the one who was supposed to be ripped apart and not scrapper and this is proven once Kapil says kills a little one since if you look at the size chart scrapper is 29 feet making him 7 feet taller than Mixmaster and rampage so in reality Mixmaster rampage would have been considered too little one and should have been ripped apart but the further pushed his point scrap metal is a smallest Constructicons though we don't have a cannon height for him if we look at the studio series toy he is clearly the smallest of the group but the last nail in the coffin is Megatron's parts let me explain since scrap metal is a crane he has treads and when Megatron gets combine of scrap metals parts his legs get formatted to have treads but let's say he would use scrappers parts scrapper doesn't have treads but he has tires so Megatron in theory would not have the Trezeguet as now but tires similar to how his legs look in dark so in conclusion considering if we accept scrapper and Essene to be scrap metal this whole identity crisis can be averted in a real-world reason why I believe this issue occurred was because since they filmed a scene twice hence the two versions of the construction vehicles between shots ayalim simply just mix up the designs along with the fact that in some parts of the film they were rushing to get some of the CGI work done and they just did not have enough time to create scrap metals concept art into a CGI robot so do Jess you scrappers design as a placeholder the next misconception I would like to cover is the skipjack rampage controversy so if you kept up with my channel for a while you probably have noticed I've called a rampage skipjack in the past and I've done this for two reasons one is his name in the credits that'll get to that in a bit and to the render to fall in toys so to start off let's address who is who the red robot who fights bumblebee is rampage and the yellow bulldozer who makes up devastators foot is skipjack now to name skipjack originated from rampaged original onset name there's also what happened if demolishers named to since his early working name was wheel by which you can also see in der Venza two phone credits but for when was time to make their vendor two phone ties Hasbro would step in to give them a proper name from the Transformers mythology skit Jack would become rampage and wheel BOTS would become demolisher but for when they made the toys of each of them both of the rampage read echoes the heart to get read version and easy to find yellow version for both titled rampage leading fans conclude that both version of the character were rampage does it also happen with Hasbro calling the scavenger toy demolisher but the name skipjack doesn't end here since the kara saw this issue and decided to use the skipjack name for the rampage mold under 2010 easy clutch in line the next misconception I like to cover is where to scrap metal combined onto Devastator and ever since the studio series Devastator was revealed many people were confused since on that toy scrap metal takes Buckethead spot to formed a hand but as we saw in the film this is not the case first of all we can see scrap metal in the combination seen right here so we know right off the bat that he combines of Hightower and that's for two reasons first of which in the SHA we can see a lot of yellow parts behind Hightower and these parts would end up forming the shoulder of Devastator but now you may be saying trance there's no parts that indicate that they came from scrap metal who you are partly right since some of these massive parts did come from Hightower but the others came from scrap metal since if you look at this shot of devastators upper left arm what do you see load treads of course and those treads definitely look like they came right off a scrap metal and if you want to have an in film shot of the treads you can see them in this clip another misconception would be where does payload form up on Devastator now the reason why I'm bringing this question up is because yet again the studio series Devastator has a flaw and that flaw would be for rampage to beat a whole leg well in reality he should just be in a foot so to fix this issue let's jump right back into the Devastator combination scene and on the top of the mountain weakens a skipjack and payload now this is important because we can clearly see skipjack and payload together which implies that they transform into each other and this is further proven by the fact that if you look at their vehicle modes and I'm using rampages and long hauls as a reference payload is much bigger than skipjack proving that skipjack could not pull off being the leg alone and if you look at palos vehicle mode compared to long hauls they are essentially the same dump truck with a few aesthetic changes which explains why both legs are the same size and since skipjack would just be the foot the extra parts would just have to find a new place to go to still be the same size and this is exactly what we see in devastators robot mode even to the point that if you look at the connection ports long hauls and payloads are nearly identical but there's one glaring flaw I didn't point out that being the extra third tread along with the fact that there's no sign of Palos Tigers anywhere if we can't just say that the extra third tread magically came out of skipjack since we clearly see the only two ones that he has right in front of us well the answer to this is gonna be a bit of a stretch but it's the best case scenario on widest third tread is here so I believe once give jack and payload combined payloads back tires get hit him while his front tire is combined and stretched out to mimic skipjacks tread but now you may be saying trans transformers can't alter how the rubber rearranges well this is actually not the case since if you remember of Optimus Prime he can split his rubber tires that make them have a crease in them this is also shown to a more extreme extent with demolisher and how he can make his treads into a circle of shape and like I said before it's a bit of a stretch but what else can we base us off of the next misconception on his list that's probably going to monetize his video is where does devastators wrecking balls come from or as Simmons calls them [Music] now this was mainly implemented as some bae humor but now let's take an in-universe look on why they're there well the first answer this question we got to know what are these wrecking balls used for and they were actually not wrecking balls at all but their overhaul balls and what these overhaul balls are used for is the add weight to crane rope so the crane rope can stay tight this prevents de Winne from twisting the crane rope which could ultimately create permanent damage to the crane and to further prove that these are not wrecking balls wrecking balls don't have a hook and wrecking balls our physical ball that can be used from all sides to break down a wall or structure concluding these balls are still to be overhaul balls but now we need to ask ourselves what Constructicons is responsible for having these well this job at most definitely fit Hightower's role since he is a crane but if we take a look at his vehicle mode the balls aren't there so the next best option would be overload since he becomes a lower torso and that's what devastators balls of steel are located but this makes no sense since overload he's in a crane so why would he have them in the first place what a best way to explain why he has them as this due to his size in vehicle mode he could easily store them in a storage compartment but in robot mode he could choose to use them as a weapon this can explain why one of the balls is missing its hook the next question that we need to solve is why does Devastator have a red face when Mixmaster does not have any red on him whatsoever what answer to this is probably gonna shock you so bear with me Mixmaster indeed does make the head of Devastator creating the neck and vortex drum but not the face since the face gets housed in scavenger and if you don't believe me take a look at devastators face he has a lot of red on it but he also has a lot of white sprinkled throughout and if you look at scavengers color palette this would definitely fit the bill but to put the last nail in the coffin when devastators face does appear it appears to be shoved out of mix masters front cab and since scavenger is directly behind mix master I can conclude that summer scavengers parts go through mix master to form up the face and if this explanation doesn't satisfy you take a look at mix masters grille it starts way in the front and then later moves up at the back so I believe this whole face shoving through miss master is not that far of a stretch the next misconception I like to take a look at and is by far the most confusing one would be the Constructicons drones now we saw three Constructicons drones the mix master scrapper and long haul one and two of them popped back up in Dark of the Moon but I'll cover that in a bit but back onto the clones the reason why people are confused with them is that they are exact copy of the original mix master scrapper and long haul and this brings up a few questions if the original mix master dies can this clone just jump right in and save the day well I have to say to this and here's why the Constructicons clones only spoke in Cybertronian and never in English unlike the mala sure and rampage who did speak English this is why I consider Grindr not to be clone of blackout since he actually speaks and if you listen closely he says no crime please and this case also works for bone crusher since in transformers 1 he says I hate you but invented a fall he had no speaking role whatsoever leading most people to believe that he's just a clone but for me since bone crusher didn't speak in revenge in a fallen he gets a pass of being the original bone crusher since there's no other conflicting evidence to prove that he isn't and if you want to know more about bone crusher being in revenge of the Fallen please take a look at my bone crusher video to learn more but moving back onto the Constructicons clones another reason why they're just closed as a fact that they're just ripoffs and like I said before the reason why the Maul strand rampage don't get classified as clones they are different colors and/or vehicles and they both spoke in English in furtive Constructicons clothes they did not have any of these qualities but now we need to figure out why are there Constructicons clones in the first place what a reason why I believe they exist is because they're used for extra old Tillery and what I mean here is if you look at a long haul he's very beefy and can take a lot of hits so I believe that the Decepticons would want to clone him for that exact reason along with the fact that his body type is a variant of a proto form proving that a fact that we can see a proto phone that has a body type similar to long haul this also explains why onslaught uses long hauls body type since he had the same protoform structure but if this confuses you too long-haul drone is a physical copy of long haul why do protoforms that we see in later films our variants of the base protoform but now let's tackle scrapper now the reason why he was clone was because his body structure would be ideal to fit the bill of a soldier but they enhance his clone by giving him the ability to use his arm as a wrecking ball now the reason I'm saying this is because we never saw the actual scrapper have this ability but for the people that believe he already had this ability then you could go with theory 2 which is since scrap already had this ability it appealed to Decepticons to clone him since this weapon could come in handy to destroy targets and immobilize enemies so I leave it up to you guys to decide which scrapper clone theory you like the best but now moving on to our final clone Mixmaster now the reason I like to believe that he was clone was because he could use a shield ability to defend himself from projectiles and this will come in handy if they would use mix masters body as a clone but they would further enhance him taking away his dev Sator head ability and replacing it for blaster that it could use a shoot targets while at the same time defending himself with his shields so more or less a protected cannon and like I said before if you don't like the idea they'd reengineered to Mix Master Jones body to give him the blaster then you could just say that due to mix masters ability they picked him to be the base of this clone since it would help in combat and another thing that I forgot to mention the Decepticons took out all combining abilities from the clones since they were gonna be potentially mass-produced but the final thing to say about the clothes before I move into fun facts is if the clones have a soul and what I mean here is do they have a consciousness what the answer to this is no and here's why since they are built upon purpose in mind I don't think it's septic on to waste their time and energy to give them a consciousness since they were just made to fight and they would most likely end up dying on the battlefield but remember they're not like protoforms since all transformers start out as protoforms who can connect to the worldwide web and learn Earth's languages and one Decepticon protoform does say something in English but I'll leave it up to you guys at a cypher now before we move on to dark of the Moon let's talk about some fun facts about Devastator first of which when we see Devastator pushed the top of the pyramid off his fist is traveling at 390 miles per hour the next fun fact is that this image here is the earliest Devastator concept art showing him to be more humanoid devastators full CGI model is made up of 50 2632 geometric pieces in 11 million seven hundred sixteen thousand 127 polygons and if you put all these pieces out in a line to total length would be 13 point 84 miles but if you put off devastators tetra files into one file that file would take up 32 gigabytes of computer space and according to Sean Kelly the ilm lead animator for revenge of the Fallen when loading up Devastator cgi model in high resolution it caused computers to break frying all the internal components including the motherboard to work around this they put each of devastators body parts in a separate rig to make it easier on the computer Devastator has one steel ball and one brass ball if Devastator would stand upright he would be a whopping 103 feet tall the next fun facts are just gonna be on the separate Constructicons during the early production Mixmaster was originally going to be an autobot with a different head that was based off of brendan gleeson and this head will be repurposed for the g1 redeco of Mixmaster Hightower has two versions of his robot mode one of her tail tread feet in some tiny t-rex arms and the other similar to the first but of bigger along with having one of the enemy scrotums as his weapon and ten years later down the road studio a series that used concept art one as Hightower's official robot mode long those robot mode was originally a fan art created by the town to the concept artist Josh Nyssa which he would use attract the attention of Hasbro's design director Aaron attinger and director Michael Bay Missy's work and press Hasbro in a director enough for him to be hired as a concept artist and for his long haul designed to actually be used for the character in a movie along of associated media and merchandise long hose designed by Josh was the very first design approved for a renter the fallin long hose designed the concept OTT was based off of a cat 797 but since the vehicle is so big they had to scale him down into a cat 773 B this is why all of long I was twice invented a fall and had an inaccurate vehicle form another an active see in the film was long hauls number it says L 250 leading most people to believe that he was an L 250 dump truck but a reality he's a 773 B scavenger actually has a fully modelled CGI render but it was never used in revenge of the Fallen and was most likely repurposed to be used as the mall usher overload has three robot form concept arts one that looks like a spider one that's a biped version of the spider look and the other has the same biped look but then if this weird hook weapon on top of him only time will tell which version hasbro pick for the studio series overload but the legends class towing along with the revenge of the phone books did use the hook versions as overloads definitive robot mode rampages early concept art depict him as at as mek m5 mechanical trencher if Buckethead would transform into robot mode his robot mode would be a combination of scrapper and skipjack and that's all the interesting fun facts that I found about Devastator but we're not done yet since it Transformers Dark of the Moon we see long haul and scrapper but how can this be possible if we saw Devastator die in revenge of the Fallen well if we take a look at devastators death some of the constructor cons actually survived the blast since scavenger got shot right in the connection port where scrapper combines on to it sets scrapper on a wild ride into the air it's in scrapper did not get shot by the blast I would say he would survive since the only damage he would take will be hitting the ground and since the severed connection port takes the heat of the damage during the fall this would cause scrapper to survive the fall and return it to Dark of the Moon the next constructor concept would survive will be skipjack payload and long haul says they wouldn't get ripped off during the fall and as we see while rolling down the pyramid they don't get crushed by devastators weight and they roll perfectly down the pyramid until devastators back would hit a wall of sandstone and due to this impact it would kill overload right on the spot is then along with Mix Master since he gets ripped off clean and since Mixmaster doesn't have the other half of his body he would die due to Energon loss along with scavenger since grabinger lost basically both of his arms which formed a connection ports but for Hightower and Buckethead they would survive since when Devastator slams his hand into the pyramid machina gets stuck into the bricks and Devastator tries to use this to his advantage to stay on to the pyramid but due to his weight he would fall backwards down the pyramid leaving both bucket and Hightower alive but scrap metal wouldn't be so lucky since he was in the middle of it all and got ripped right in half proven by the fact that we can see scrabbles combined mode right here but I may ask what happened to the dead body parts are Devastator why I believe that they were taking an S to be disposed of and for the ones that survived I believe that they went into hiding shortly after revenge of the Fallen but now let's move on a dark of the Moon and in dark of the moon we see scrapper and long halt in the background now you could say they are just Constructicons clones but I would have to disagree since we never saw any of the Constructicons clothes being mass-produced and it only looked like there was only one set ever made of them with potential in the future to create more but since we saw them all die in operation firestorm there is no way to prove that they are Constructicons clones and further back this point up we saw scrapper and long I'll survive revenge of the Fallen but only scrapper would survive dark of the moon and long halt would fall by the hands of Optimus Prime since he was shot directly square in the chest causing him to explode what scrapper wouldn't get a quick and easy death like his comrade he would be shanked through to gut him slash at the back of the spine causing him to fall down on a mine but through all this pain he was survived to tell the tale but now we need to ask ourselves worse bucket at high tower and payload during all this well I believe during the events between revenge at a fallen Dark of the Moon Hightower was hunted down by nest and he mainly found him due to his size just like demolisher and as for bucket head and payload they would survive throughout dark of the Moon by bailing what's work out out that Megatron was killed during the events of age of extinction I believe that bucketed and skipjack were hunted down since there's no mention of reference of them anywhere similar to how sideswipe and dino were never mentioned ever again and if this in mind we have to accept the unpopular opinion that they're all deceased but now I may be wondering why did I not list payload and scrapper as deceased well my reasoning for this is we actually see them both again and Transformers the last night so let's start off of trench now the real-world reason why trench was included in the last night was because of celebrate the relationship between Transformers and Caterpillar construction since a lot of the caterpillar machines were featured as Constructicons Zee Transformers Revenge of the Fallen and it looks like we've come full circle since trench has the same bot mode as scrap but his vehicle mode is a cat 320 excavator but we can't just confirm and be scrap persons any scrap or die at the end of dark of the moon well remember when I said that he would be able to tell his tale was a near-death experience well due to his injuries that he was sustained does it cause his lower torso to fall off leaving scrapper to crawl out on the battlefield with the added task of the Autobots not spotting him and it's a miracle that he even pulled us off but the reason why I say scrapper would become trench is because of two reasons they shared the same body type and a trench has no kin media of his origin along with scrappers fate being unknown at the end of dark of the Moon but there's one big thing that the bunks his theory and now it'd be to size a scrapper in trench if you remember scrappers cannon height is 29 feet and trench is 10 feet shorter at that at 19 so scrapper is trench how can his be well if you remember he had to crawl out of the battlefield since he lost his legs no transformers can't regrow limbs so were scrapped heard he had legs again he would have to find a new pair of legs and since there are a lot of dead protocol and carcasses around he would easily be able to find a new pair of legs but they wouldn't be the same size as originals but now you may be saying trance how could scrapper just slap on some new legs and walk away well if you remember de sac qu Alize been done before if you look at transfers of last night once again squeeks loses his arm and it's replaced later on by a Decepticon arm thanks it helped a visi and if you note his arms from a completely different body but yet it's still compatible squeeks of use and if you'd like to have an original trilogy example take a look at Starscream in the forest battle prime chop star screams arm off but later he's able to put it back on and I believe that we can use an analogy for why scrapper so much smaller when he's trench but the next thing for scrapper that we need to figure out is how do you survive if I was lowered torso well this is not the first time a transformer has survived without their torso in granted they can only survive for a limited amount of time take the Mixmaster clone for example he was moving all fine and well when Jetfire chopped him and this analogy also happened of jazz says if you remember Ironhide says we couldn't save him more or less meaning that jazz didn't die from the initial split but dude his Energon loss since we can see his spinal cord and this somewhat also has shown from Mixmaster but due to dust in the scene it makes it hard to see but there's one other fact that I did not talk about yet and that is cauterization which is a medical procedure technique of burning a part of the body to close off a wound and this is scene of brawl and mission City the reason why he doesn't leak out Energon over the place was due to how hot bond of these plasma shots were it cauterized most of his wounds letting him last longer in battle but the reason why this didn't happen with jazz was because there was no heat involved leaving him to bleed out so if all this evidence table I hope it paints a picture on how a Cybertronian can reattach the limbs even if they're not theirs in fact they can survive for a limited amount of time without a torso but the next question that we have to ask is why would scrapper join the Autobots well after dark of the Moon the Decepticon faction was in shambles with their leaders gone in big players such as Starscream shockwave and Soundwave out of the picture there was no hope for them to grow as strong as they used to be does it cause many Decepticons and go into hiding it must be killed off by cemetery wind during this time in hiding scrapper scanners new cab 3:20 vehicle mode as a disguise later on scrapper was fortunate enough to be discovered by Cade Yeager on one of his transformer hunts in which he would switch his name to trench to leave his a sceptic on heritage behind and to become an official member of the Autobot team as the old saying goes if you can't beat them join them not a second to last thing I want to cover on trench before we move on to canopy is can trench be considered a reprogrammed scrapper drone well this answer I would have to say no since there's only one scrapper drone ever made and that drone was blown up in operation firestorm with all the other Constructicons clones but to leave to trench discussion on a final note I found it interesting that his leg still has a tire in it but this just could be overlooked as the treads going into a circle or shape just like demolisher and if you're wondering why I trench has similar legs back is because once he would scan his new vehicle form it would give him new parts accommodate his new mode but it would also stick to his robot mode design concluding my trench has almost identical legs to what he was scrapper but the last question that we need to ask ourself is what happened to him what last time that we ever seen was in a junkyard right before Megatron and the gang would attack as we saw how it gets shot it goes to a cut of the Autobots driving away but I believe during this time trends would try to fight off on the crew members but he would ultimately be overpowered and if one of the members realizing that trench's a former Decepticon they would take him to Megatron when Megatron would personally execute him for being a traitor and that would be the end of scrappers story for the rest of the former transformer Cinematic Universe but now let's move on to our last point of discussion canopy and just like a scrapper payload would fall into the same circumstance primitively after the Battle of Chicago and go into hiding but he would end up going back into Chicago to search for any survivors but instead he would find a little girl named Izzie would realize all the bad things that Decepticons have done and lude by her story he would become an autobot the stuff that septa cons from committing crimes against humanity and during this time spent with her they even find a broken transformer named squeaks who got damaged due to the Battle of Chicago it was left for dead canapé would cheat you see how to fix up a transformer and this way we can see is being an expert on fixing transformers but when it was time for canopy to bite the dust he was shot by a trf missile and right before he died he told Izzie I want to thank you and what I believe this line means is canopy thinking is he for changing his respective on humanity but there are a few things that I would like to cover of canopy with one being what is this vehicle form if you look at canopy he's not his old dump truck form anymore since he doesn't have the arm shields anymore but he does have some warning panels on his thighs but here's the thing I don't think he even has a vehicle mode anymore and here is why we can clearly see that he did have a vehicle mode at one point we don't know exactly what it was but it wasn't as old 773 beat dump truck but the reason why I say he doesn't anymore is because we saw very damaged and beaten up and there was no evidence of treasure tires on him whatsoever and the reason for this is we saw Izzie use Energon to cause one of the TRF centuries to go down and squeeks use the cables that make it fall but how would they know how to do this if they never came in contact with the TRF before I believe that canopy got damaged in the first ever run of the TRF I speculate that he lost any tires that would have been on his back and he tried to use arm shields as much as he could but the TRF century bullets would eventually break through destroying his shields and causing him to evacuate and there was only so much as he could do to fix up canopy and it's not like it's easy to find another construction tire to replace since once his was destroyed there was no hope in getting a new one but this all comes full circle because canopy highs wearing a trench coat made out of rubble daddy would use the hide in plain sight and if he still had his vehicle mode available to him I believe that he would have transformed and took easy into kids to safety when the TRF was after them the second thing I'd like to cover the canopy is a size now if you remember when he was payload he was 30 feet tall but his canopy he's listed as 20 feet tall so where did this 10 feet drunk come from well we don't know what happened to him during the events between Dark of the Moon and Tok so he could have a similar fake to scrapper by getting his legs chopped off but for what I think would be the best example would be a similar case of scrappers but paler we'll get it far worse from being damaged all over his body and left for dead and what I mean here is he was barely clinging on to dear life due to how badly damaged he was and once he collected some scrap parts to fix himself to an extent he would scan his new vehicle mode and since it was smaller it would physically shrink him down due to how many parts he lost so what I mean here is his broken body accommodated enough space for the smaller vehicle but if he was still at full size he would not been able to scan it and because he's scanned it in his broken state once he would transform into bot mode he'll be a slightly smaller version of himself the next and final like the covers why does canopy and trench have new heads now though they're similar to their originals they do differ drastically well trenches had being more friendly by losing two sets of the three teeth and four canopy to give himself a more humanoid mouth and jaw line in the very last thing I would like to say before I go is a fun fact on canopy canopy was originally gonna be a subway train robot with all this junk on him similar to day trader and I think it would have been cool to see this design in the film but due to how little screen time canopy would end up getting it wouldn't be worth creating a whole new CGI model just for a character who's gonna die early on and just like that that was Devastator misconceptions 2.0 if you enjoyed this theory into fixing 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Length: 38min 37sec (2317 seconds)

Published: Sun Oct 27 2019