#ConclavePopUp | Reporter’s Diary and Data Insights On Lok Sabha Election 2024 Results

ladies and gentlemen uh in two weeks from now we will have uh some idea of who is going to form the next government in the country All Eyes therefore will be on pollster starting with the exit poll on the 1st of June to give you a teaser as to what to expect on the fourth of June and possibly uh beyond that uh I'm joined by two very special guests please welcome uh a pollster pradep Gupta of AIS uh my India join us on the stage please pradep and uh Sanjay Gupta of loti csds Pradip Gupta please join us ladies and gentlemen uh welcome to uh what we hope will be a teaser to what lies ahead in the next fortnite an exit pole on the 1st of June and then the results on the 4th of June in the world's largest democracy uh and there's plenty of excitement particularly here in Mumbai uh where the markets will certainly be looking very closely at what happens on the fourth of June as indeed will the rest of the country so Rahul and I are very proud and privileged to welcome two very special individuals who know a thing or two about numbers please welcome uh Sanjay Kumar of loc Niti csts they are a premier political research agency I've been doing elections for more than a couple of decades and uh my friend pradep Gupta of AIS my India uh a pollster who uh has a track record of usually getting it right and therefore his uh every word will be looked at very closely in the next couple of weeks thank you both very much uh pradep and Sanjay for joining us I'm going to start rul by putting to both of them four scenarios and you tell me which is most likely and least likely you don't have to give me numbers because I know that's against the's rules suppose I were to tell you BJP Crossing with its allies 400 BJP with its allies 370 BJP with its allies 300 BJP with its allies 272 and the BJP itself at 250 250 272 300 370 400 which is the most likely which is the least likely scenario on the 4th of June who wants to start no I think uh in my opinion the scenario is very clear in my mind it's BJP along with the Allies it is close to 300 it can't I don't see BJP with allies anywhere close to 370 or 400 is a remote possibility but BJP with it as BJP on its own will will BJP on its own be over 272 but that's not the question which you asked you asked you gave me these four scenarios I picked up the one okay so the one you picked up is 300 in that 300 is the BJP over 272 or below 272 I would say BJP over 272 but not by a very large margin it's just slightly above 272 okay pradep Gupta so uh Raj with due respect to you I have three scenario two one is that for me the food is half cooked at this point of Time For Us second we are as a polling agency we are restricted to say or believe or reveal or release any kind of number whatsoever and the third one is the most important one more than often you have been proven pollster like us wrong meaning you have a better understanding of political scenario in India then as for sure I'm coming to that and most importantly at this point of time you have travel across the country so let me try and do exit Pole from you no I can't do it I I'm not allowed I can't throw a number you're supp you're paid for this yeah if if if India Today tells me Raj we are paying you today if you get the number right you're getting an extra bonus I'll throw a number if I I need a kip Puri is that no no now we are in Mumbai so you know in Mumbai we some of us can call the shot so we're saying if we get it right bonus if we uh don't get it right business as usual no but but okay let let me R just throw another set of numbers at them prad is playing extremely safe so the other angle is the Congress the four scenarios the Congress gets 100 seats plus the Congress gets 75 seats plus the Congress is around 50 the Congress is below 50 which is the most likely scenario Sanjay Kumar so now Pradip first no no as I mentioned that you know it's not fair or rather legitimate on my part to say or agree to any kind of number you are throwing on to me is it more competitive than 2019 it is any election for that matter always very competitive very exciting and the reason I'll say and now the five now you will say prep go go will say that do you say more competitive you know let's be serious forget numbers for a moment yeah it is more competitive it is much more competitive than 2019 forget the 19 it is more competitive okay because 19 has some numbers so I don't want to get anywhere near to closer to any number you won't get a call from the prime minister's of office don't worry it doesn't matter I if I say he's winning what's the problem so I'm not worried about any kind of call I have too strict to my business and profession okay and my profession doesn't allow to serve half cooked food you will not like it and I'll tell you why I'll tell you why in chtis gar you only told me prip you got wrong very badly I said yes and everybody got wrong uh chtis gar very badly despite of that there was a 46 number for BJP I have shown and 50 number of seats for congress I have shown meaning 46 for BJP meaning there is also Congress 40 numbers there was a one scenario meaning we have shown that PJP may form the government you you had alternate scenarios and you said just the four seats here and there and everybody said pradep you are wrong yeah that's a State Assembly Election but sanj sanj you want to give me the Congress the most likely scenario no I would go back to the second question which you asked that do I see this election more competitive compared to 2019 uh both with regard to BJP both with regard to Congress I think yes it is definitely a more competitive election and since I have expressed my view about what is the scenario for likely scenario for NDA as of as I see now uh in all probability Congress is improving its tally compared to what Congress tally was in 2019 uh where does it stop do I see Congress getting figures in three digigit no I don't see that happening so as I said real numbers very difficult to figure out but yes my own sense is that Congress is on upward slide and BJP slightly on the decline sanj is being far more candid than pradep is he only wants to dance he's been practicing his dance moves since Raj spoke so much of money being spent and poll being conducted so much money is been spent on Raj traveling as well so Raj they all your friends and wellers I'm telling you from bottom of my heart he has been right most of the time since I got associated with him I'm telling you in 2016 in 2016 that was the first time when we got associated with India group and five state was there Bengal Tamil Nadu Assam Kerala he told me pradep I have a doubt on your one number your four state seems to be bang on and that is Tamil Nadu you want to revise it I said Raj we have tried enough let's go with this he said no it can be reversed and which was the case he's giving me a post retirement option but R to answer your question there are three things that I think are I think this is the election which will be decided by the woman voter there is no vote Bank in this country today as important as the woman voter and the problem is when television anchors or newscast they interview more men than women because the men come forward the women are in the background if you meet the silent woman you get to know what's happening in an election I remember last year in Karnataka there was this woman sitting at the side of the temple quietly and I just went up to her and then you know it was in Canada but eventually I got she said price of kerosene too high and I will not vote for this government I want this government out and you sensed in that woman exactly because she didn't come to the camera the men come to the camera the women you have to go and talk to them so I think the woman voter will decide particularly in north and Central India and I think rul somewhere this time the young voter is I haven't seen so many young voters in rural India talk the narratives they are they are watching social media and reals night and day and they have very very strong opinion so I think these two the what I call the new miy mahila and yua previously mahila miy was Muslim yadav now in Northern India it's mahila and yua and they are deciding much more than people sitting in Halls like this who will attend our shows but won't go and vote but when you look when I look at mumbai's voting I mean there 50% is in South Mumbai it's terrible I mean you think about it R so but but the bigger picture I how many people here voted oh that's great more than 50% but they also come to an election conclave right so obviously the others are sitting on some Pub and having a nice evening so that's also a difference to that yes but but but rul I think what is what is happening is look the one common factor from north to south east to west is Prime Minister Modi I mean this election is do you want Mr Modi to be in power for another another 5 years or you don't want him I think he is a unifying factor in that sense but I am seeing state byst state narratives R which is suggest it's a normal election you come to Maharashtra you hear of water scarcity s zoshi and I went 50 km away from Pune women are walking 5 kilm for a bucket of water that's the reality of this country you go to up paper leaks every student will come and Sayer leak paper leaks can't be stopped you go to some other corner of the country uh uh in Tamil Nadu the issues are again very different uh uh R so I think issues are changing from region to region rural urban I'm playing as safe as pradep as you can see but the one statistic r that I point out two one is the BJP won Rahul 224 seats by 50% vote share and more you're going to need a huge swing away from the BJP for the BJP to be defeated in this election so I I mean I can't see a scenario at the moment where the BJP doesn't form a government whether it's in Coalition or whether it's pass 272 uh and number two rul in the last two elections in direct fights between Congress and BJP 90% of the seats have been won by the BJP so unless the opposition has offered a better alternative I'm not so sure that uh uh the opposition is in a position at the moment to win India they may win parts of India but I don't think they can at the moment win nationally in every state on in the key States I think there are two key States at the moment Maharashtra where we are now and uttar Pradesh these two states something is churning in uttar Pradesh I haven't seen uttar Pradesh in a long time churning in the manner it is will it be enough only to change vote share or could it change seat share and Maharashtra I am delighted to see Maharashtra as competitive as as it is it's good that this has become the state where finally people are talking politics so that's I played very safe my own sense is uh we'll be finished on this result will be over by 12 noon on 4th whichever way we won't have to wait too long it'll be over by in 3 hours before that on 1st June on the same very platform India Today group television channels and other media houses you will get to see access my India India Today numbers and I'm sure we will try and get result before result gup G can teach marketing to Shah ruk Khan at this so I'm not playing safe but but ECI so I cannot uh deviate from that you know what we want to do is make this session as interactive as possible so feel free to jump in and ask questions and start with s josi sahil go on uh so first of all I want to uh talk about I mean everyone talks about Women Voters and Women Voters it's and take 7 % rural 30% urban urban meaning 6,500 cities and towns 6,500 cities and town contribute 30% of the population 100 67% 80% is rural and poor and their livelihood largely depend on government of the day please understand this and and their living is $100 less than $100 a month meaning what they have to depend on government Aid and these government AIDS are starting with Road electricity water Education Health PDS ration and form related be it seeds fertilizer subsidized rate and water and electricity for irrigation so this is the reality and coming to the woman country under 50% 50/50 women and men 90% of the women in this country is depend on the male member of the family so-called cwe so they are largely depend on the CW and when you are living in kind of underprivileged situation so whoever comes and try and give you some kind of a comfort at the leeway they are bound to escute towards whoever is there and the Helm of it as a government so these days these women think government is their cwe government is their cwe so that is the precisely and this is the only demography which contribute 50% of the total chunk which is the biggest number now coming to the youth now what had happened because of demographic shift in last particularly 10 years earlier in the age of 18 to 25 years of age there used to be contribution of 177% 17 generally 15% to 20% population of that electors used to be 177% average I'm talking about now because of demographic shift this 17 has become 22 and2 which is a substantial number number one number two by Nature as a youth you want things on a rapid fast speed and that is the precisely reason why this seems to be more vocal more impatient and what you see and what you heard as Raji pointed out they voices whereas woman voices is in silos so coming to your unemployment all those things I'll tell you last 50 years there was unemployment and inflation issue and it will be for next 50 years the question is who is better prepared to address these issue and that is how electors elect the government or the leader for that matter so Pradip KH speak much at this moment about uh the exit pole numbers but I know he has very strong opinions on the issue of hinda because there are many in the BJP RSS who think this government wins because they have a very strong Hindu tilt your view is that no Hindu is a very marginal factor it's actually the work that they do on development which helps them win explain that to everyone who's sitting here same thing Rahul ma any issue for that matter be it Hindu also larger section of society impact it is as simple as that so I just now I explain the 80% is literally struggling for livelihood where it matter Hindu and this it matters only to the extent of 5 to 10% of the people but how it turns and what it turns out to be in the campaign what media picks out the reality is in the 40 minutes speech of any leader for that matter whether Congress BJP or any other political party they talk 90% which is about 30 35 minutes about the welfare and development of the society and 5 to 10 minutes they talk about these emotional issu soal because so it is simply the packaging and marketing and in packaging and marketing you need to use all kind of trick to reach out to the all kind of Voters but that is the reason why I say 5 to 10% and when you say Hindu Hindu my dear friend if you buy a pen and if it is not writing he will throw it out or replace it so as with the government who is leader who is government is a public representative if they do not serve them what are they fall it's as simple as that but you know media cannot talk about those issues media needs something more than that which is called INF infotainment and that is what you serve I'm going to come to Prof to Dr Sanjay Kumar because he's in a rather candid mood you know you all did a poll at the start of the election or before the election csts I saw your you didn't give numbers but what you said was effectively suggesting that issues like unemployment mangi what top of the mind at the same time you said there was a strong unemployment and unemployment bosari and mangi but at the same time you said there was a lot of faith in Mr Modi as a leader when you looked at leadership across parties do you believe that something has changed from the time you started this election where you seem very confident that the BJP was going to get 300 plus effectively that's what your survey seem to suggest today you've come and said 272 with allies 300 that's the question many people are asking has something changed in the last 6 to8 weeks for you Sanjay Kumar to be a little bit more cautious uh no on the question of that you gave me four options and I picked up one which I thought is much closer but on a serious note yes we did csds did a poll uh before elections as you know that we don't come out with number of seats but this was a poll conducted in the first week of April we concluded the poll by 8th of April and our estimate which was made public in the newspaper was that 40% votes for BJP um and prime minister modi's popularity remains very high at 47% but at the same time the study also revealed and it was like like reported in widely in the newspaper that we figured out that there are sections of voter who intended that they're likely to vote for BJP in the coming elections but we called them reluctant voter they were not very happy with the performance of the government they would uh they didn't want want this government to be reelected by conviction but they thought since there is no alternative they will get reelected so even if there isari even if there's M we will end up voting for BJP even though we don't want this government to be reelected so out of this 40 we made an estimate that really the bjp's vote share seems to be 35 36% but there is 4 or 5% reluctant voter who might end up voting for BJP because they see no alternative that was the situation in the first week of April but I think as the election progressed things may have changed on the ground which is obvious from various quarters and my own sense is that I think there is a movement of those reluctant voter who thought they're likely to vote for BJP on the election day they seems to have moved away because the St have changed which is obvious to everyone but for those to whom it's not so obvious explain what's changed and why between your ear polls and now I think the narrative changed uh to be very Frank when opposition party used to say this is a election to save democracy this is an election to save Constitution I used to laugh and I used to think this is not an issue for the common man but what has happened I think uh what BJP thought is an strength became a weakness because that was used by the opposition or that has been used by the opposition as a tool to counter so when BJP when Prime Minister Modi said NDA and for BJP and Congress and opposition started campaigning on this issue that you know BJP is aiming to get 370 because they want to change the Constitution and that is why we are saving we are saying this is an election to save the Constitution and they kept hammering hard that if they get 370 if they get a huge majority they may be willing to change the Constitution and changing the Constitution would mean erasing the memories of ambedkar because he is seen as an icon for a large number of dalits so one big achievement of a delit leader tall delit leader edar who has you know like who who is the architect of the Constitution that will also get changed so this whole narrative that if BJP comes to power in a big way many things will change and this also connects to Prime Minister Modi has mentioned we will take strong step or we are going to in iate very strong measures as soon as we come to power in the first 10 days uh first 100 days I think that started making a connect to the people on the ground and then I think that started changing the narrative so the big Narrative of vote on Modi or vote on hinda vote on Temple that disappeared and the small issues of yes there is some substance people started thinking there is a substance that there is a danger to the Constitution there is a substance that there is a danger to democracy this started growing up like small plants here and there and the aggregation is what we are get looking at now you know rul you've asked me you've asked them what's happening what are you going to tell us you've also traveled across the country you can't pin me down to a number and you can't you are you are you know you met the Prime Minister you interviewed him does he sound like a prime minister who's getting 400 power or is that all part of this calculated choreography to create the personality cult do you think he's he at all fears any possibility of not achieving that Target Raj why don't you give him the same four options which you gave it to me okay now four options uh BJP plus allies 400 uh BJP plus allies is 370 300 272 250 five options what's most likely Raj Raj like an IPL player likes to hit big and smash out of the park and he gets great pleasure giving his uh you know cricketing background I stick to data and I'm very very careful I'd much rather leave a ball outside the off than go poke my bat at it and get caught out it slips but that being said I think this Charo par is something if you talk to any BJP leader even they will accept is just a Walky they also accept that some of this in some constituencies did backfire because there was built up anti-incumbency against local MPS so some voters anecdotally started saying things like you know we like the Prime Minister he's done good work we don't mind him being back in power and very quickly the BJP realized if a lot of people start thinking like this uh that you know we'll beat the local candidate because we don't like him even though we like the Prime Minister which is why it led to a change in positioning the fact also is that there is uh unemployment that there is distress and those are genuine factors it can't nobody can go away from them but many of these people actually feel that Prime Minister Modi is probably the best agent to improve their life into the future unless there is a vehicle that can capitalize on the anti-incumbency which only legitimately is built up over 10 years you can't have a government 10 years on remember 10 years of manm Singh being in power people didn't want to see his face they didn't want the UPA back the fact that he's still batting on a tricky Wicket but still batting and standing strong says a lot for the man you saw what far inan brma said in a global context very difficult to find leaders who 10 years on are still standing firm obviously the ground is more shaky than it was 5 years ago when you had pulama in balakot but he's still standing strong and still standing firm until the time the opposition finds some way of being able to channelize the anti-incumbency does that simmering of discontent lead to regime change I think that's really the question Raj no I I I I agree because I think you see discontent but you didn't see anger as you travel you see anger in Pockets but I didn't see the kind of widespread anger we saw in 2014 when you want to get a government out of power uh 2019 was in a way a shradhanjali to our martys you know people went out and said we want to the pulama martyrs have to be in some way almost given a tribute and we've got to go and vote uh and there was this muscular nationalism in 2024 it's almost reassuringly back to an old style Indian election where you can go to Western Maharashtra and you said you know you sense the issues are very different from what they will be in a videra to a Rada that's what India is I think the good news is journalists especially in Studios have got reality check in this election you see because we get carried away by a single narrative the truth is this is the most diverse this is the fourth time since you've started you've hit outed journalist in the media which of our journalists has been in the studio no no all of them are out of the ground saying no no I'm saying in general you see when when when we talk about elections we fail to an Indian election is the so let me rephrase what you said journalists in studios of other channels who talk all the time without making any sense they are the you you say this in such a general sweeping brush I get worried who's he talking about no no I'm just saying that you know what what is exciting about an Indian election is it sheer diversity and it's great that when you can go on the ground as we can and actually experience that diversity and I think that's what makes Indian election so fascinating but we want simple today's world wants everything in a Instagram reel that tell me in an Instagram reel who's winning how do you how do you decode 543 seats in an Instagram re how do any of us tell you a number we haven't traveled to 543 seats if you don't travel to every and that's why pradep tends to get it right since he complimented me let me compliment him that because the new way of doing polling is very different from old the old was random sampling you went to a few constituencies and you made predictions for the whole area now you can't do that every constituency is different from the other we went recently in eastern up to gazipur johpur Varanasi Varanasi the prime minister is going to win by a landslide you go to johpur and it's a classic old style Indian constituency all kinds of conspiracies the candidate there is a Mumbai Congress chief who's now joined the BJP so the locals are not very happy who's this Outsider you're seeing India at play this is the fascinating India is not America Biden versus Trump this is the most fascinating comp Le country in the world and we should celebrate it you know we get caught under democracy is dead Indian democracy is not dead Indian democracy is alive and kicking it may be dead at times because of no Level Playing Field resources institutions in trouble but the voter in his own way knows how to arrogant leader he finds his own way to do it how he does it is complicated but he does it Rahul somewhere down the line I think we need to celebrate that diversity and because pradep goes to all 543 constituencies he has a better chance of getting it right than most so I my only thing to Pradip and I remember telling him this in West Bengal two years ago or three years ago and before that once in Karnataka please go and poll more women I believe political parties get their calculations wrong because they don't go and poll enough women pollsters get it wrong because they don't PLL women the women are terrific they don't they have agency now they don't go according to the husbands in fact one lady told me and I wish political parties spent more time understanding the mind of the Indian woman if they had that's right I agree K you're welcome to come you know I all I'm sure all the women here have far sharper political Minds than the men because you know what the real livelihood issues are men are into this cultur politics I heard fared zakara say that right that there's this cultural politics that's taken over from economic issues come to India fared meet livelihood issues in rural Bihar and you will know what really counts there's no culture when I'm a musahar and I'm from a family which is struggling to make 6,000 rupees a month I want that 5 kilos of rice at free it changes my life you know when you have 400 people in a bus meant for 100 people you realize what a free bus ride means to a woman it gives her a sense of Independence very easy for us to sit in rooms like this and sort of say fre free for that woman it's empowerment she can go out on her own do work that's the new India and we need to recognize it so in last Modi has recognized it I'll give Modi credit rul for that Modi and other leaders nitish Kumar Jay Lita mam banery the clever leaders have realized mahila vote and whoever can now Congress has also relatedly realized with the mahalakshmi scheme something that they should have been trumping much more instead of getting into wealth redistribution fights you should have focused on the woman vote you could win this election so Raj I think in last 10 years you are coming to the fold of pollster now I think you should retire from journalism you have started talking more like a pollster than a journalist you because you are trying and get to the ground and understanding the ground realities and you are speaking whatever last 10 years back I know when I used to talk about condition of Roads electricity water gup G I'm telling you 2016 2016 when I gave Bengal election I predicted 2 20 OD seats for TMC you said prep TMC logo phone I think Finance Minister mrra plus he's creating trouble for us you I don't know what's up just un but but let's look at this election as we as we approach it as pollsters has it become more difficult therefore Sanjay Kumar to predict an Indian election because there are so many complexities Indian voters remarkable they vote differently in vihans SAA and Lok SAA we are seeing it I believe Maharashtra voter will vote very differently for a state election 4 months from now is it more difficult now to predict the mind of an Indian voter than it was say 10 years ago my job has become very easy because we don't predict elections anymore we used to do that earlier but even predicting Trends yes we do what we do through our research we try and give a sense of how India voted how people have voted what has been the issues and yes we try and give you a sense of you means all the viewers readers a sense of how people have voted what has been the shift what has been the reasons you would not find us coming out with any numbers about the seats that's why my job is easy we don't predict election but we try and give you a sense of the support base of political parties which is to say the vote share where does the party stand which party is ahead and which party is trailing and about what margin whether it is 10% 12% or 5% prep but is it more difficult no not at all I mean I enjoy that thanks to access my India team and we enjoy the most difficult puzzle to solve so it is not at all difficult for us to predict and I'm telling you this election as well there are state which is totally in one-sided there are state which is one-sided on the with the other political party and there are state which is tough competition what you call which is the most difficult State this time according to you just wait for some time no no that you can tell us you can tell us which is the most difficult State just wait for June 1st 6:00 p.m. onwards you will get to see and know seat by seat analysis for all 543 seats we can tell you which independent candidate is winning and when he's likely to win so don't worry food food is under preparation I don't want to serve you half you will not like it so I don't want that kind of situation nonstop marketing machine our marketing guys can learn some lessons let's get a question from rajesha uh he runs a champion kabudi team as you know also runs mukund go for it yeah uh hi hi rad you seem to be on quite a role this evening so let's keep you you rolling all right now you spoke uh you talked about uh churning couple of nights ago political earthquake was a phrase you used and you've been going around talking to Youth and the Silent Women tell us a little more I used the earthquake only so that people would watch the show uh it was pure marketing you know if I if I said it's a normal election who's going to watch so you have to say it's an earthquake you have to excite the look I I just just I just think that this is a fascinating Indian election because it's uh see 2014 was a mood for change 2019 was this muscular nationalism 2024 is much more like a normal Indian election with the Modi Factor overwhelming you know except for that finally we are seeing real issues being debated on the ground I'm not saying it'll translate into votes see a lot of chatter we we know we chat bosari rural distress we chat about it but I'm not not so sure how much of that will translate into votes but you know it's just wonderful to meet uh Indians who uh still are excited about election the worry I have is money power I think the one reason why I think what depresses you is I heard people in telengana telling me that it now cost them 80 to 90 crores 80 to 90 crores to fight at one loc SAA election in one seat one candidate I heard stories in Mumbai where a particular candidate apparently has spent 40 crores basically trying to bribe voters I mean then you're skewing democracy that's not a Level Playing Field and even across the country you know the fact is the BJP is outspending its Rivals 10 to1 does that make it a Level Playing Field so that's the worrying part I mean they have every right to spend what they want but it would be nice if we could have a more even system I don't know how we are going to get it maybe they have ideas but I have no way to know how this money power is going to end because then why are you blaming only the BJP when it comes to spending take for example wherever the Congress is in power in southern states like kataka or Telangana has money not being spent take for example DMK being in power in Tamil NAD or the AI DMK before it this is an ill that cuts across party lines does not just signal out one party for it no I'm saying pan India obviously the BJP is outspending its Rivals but you're right in individual states where a party is in power it's able to outspend but I'm just saying the scale of money rul which means that a very talented Village pradan who doesn't have money cannot contest an election anymore if he's a honest man who has look at Mumbai or tan most of the people who are contesting Lo uh vihans SAA election will be real State guys they're the guys whove made money in the last 25 30 years and they will contest elections I mean it it's not ideal I don't think so that's my view no no but Raj what happened see you may have n number of money and you can spend an amount of money but voter never ever vote based on your money power so you are saying you cannot contest election in my own assembly constituency one side uh candidate from BJP Filthy Rich is spending lots of money and the other side my own friend who was we were friend and studied together in primary school he simply said said and he won by 350 vote that to postal votes evm votes uh BJP won by 57 votes but through postal vote he won by 350 votes so I mean one can spend money is like on your well-being you can spend any amount of money but I'm wearing just 200 rupees a t-shirt so what does it matter this is the kind of line Rahul Gandhi would give you know white T-shirt no no I'm saying you said you cannot contest election without money becoming more and more difficult no I I disagree I think it's becoming more and more difficult R that's the point I'm making it's other way round we are out of time on this session rer Sharma is here everyone's waiting to listen to him but one thing seems quite clear before I wrap up what was earlier a no contest one way there's a lot of predictability around the election no matter what the end result at 2: p.m. on the 4th or at 700 p.m. on the 1st one thing is clear there's now enough buzz and excitement around the Indian election that's what makes Raj's job my job that much more exciting and that's what all of us at the IND group are preparing for for that exit poll and for that counting day and we look forward to having you with us for the time being Pradip Gupta I hope you've been practicing your dance moves because if you intend to dance you know just kind of there has to be one better move than this a little better than that let let me get my numbers right first and then then we'll decide what to do yeah that's that's the other thing we need to clarify it's not about who wins the election if we get the numbers right we will do a dance if we get the numbers wrong we will be more rajdeep's children told him boss do whatever you do Dad don't dance then they say in this case the papa is not listening to the children R look I have two left feet but with prip I'll we'll do a I'm I'm pretty confident that by 12:00 on the 4th we should have Clarity this is not going to be a long night that's my sense you know because we work so hard on data analytics we don't want this to end at 12 we want this to go on as long as is possible because if it does that's when the power of the election intelligence dashboard comes alive if it ends very quickly then everyone knows what's happening then nobody's interested in my data analytics so that's no fun but thank you very much uh Sanjay Kumar for joining us absolute pleasure to have you with us pradep Gupta thank you very much much I hope that Tali comes out nicely cooked uh Raj thank you for joining us as well Raj will of course stay back for the next session thank you can we have a warm Round of Applause please

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Published: Wed May 22 2024