Comparing All of RED's New Cinema Cameras!!

hey everyone Jake here from CVP today we are comparing four of Red's latest cinema cameras all the way from the Komodo up to their Flagship V Raptor XL we will take a look at each camera explain their pros and cons and show off some of the images that they can capture so you can decide which camera you may want to use for your next project let's start with the Komodo and the Komodo X both of these cameras share a lot but there are some very clear differences between them as well the Komodo Is Res entry level camera but it offers a lot of the great things that come with shooting with a red camera such as a stellar image and flexible internally compressed Raw we've used the Komodo as our primary camera in our studio for a couple of years now because it's just so easy to get great looking images fast komodo's feature a very similar super 35 6K Global shutter sensor however the Komodo X has architectural improvements to get slightly better sensor performance than the Komodo from our testing it looks performed better in the shadows and also has improved color the Komodo is quite Limited in regards to frame rates with 6K maxing out at 40 frames per second and 4K maxing out at 60. the Komodo X can capture double the frame rates possible with the Komodo this means that you can capture 6K up to 80 4K to 120 and 2K up to 240 frames per second all in a 17x9 aspect ratio in our 3D raw and the footage looks fantastic as you'd expect from Red for a lot of people the komodo's frame rates will be fine but there are also a lot of people who wanted just a little bit more out of it and the Komodo X achieves that you can also shoot prores on either camera but the Komodo X can now capture 4444 xq whereas the Komodo is limited to 42 HQ the form factors of the cameras are quite similar the Komodo X is actually the same height and width as the Komodo but is 19 millimeters longer this difference may affect how easily you can balance the cameras on smaller gimbals especially with larger batteries and lenses they both share a very similar interface on the top of the cameras as well this includes the 2.9 inch touchscreen and set of control buttons however the Komodo X's Arrow buttons are now physically raised slightly so you can feel which button is which without looking down which is a really nice touch the menus are also incredibly similar though the Commodore X maybe feels a touch snappier to operate the Komodo X uses the same Pogo pin layout on the top of the camera as the V Raptor which is different to the Komodo and it means that you can use the same accessories such as the dsmc3 monitor on the Komodo X but you can't on the Komodo the Komodo X uses CF Express type B media whereas the Komodo uses CFOs 2. CF Express type B is a much newer and faster media type which was needed with the Komodo X due to the increased data rates of the higher frame rates compared to Komodo offloading your cards can also be much faster with the correct reader which should help you save some time safe Express is also a lot more future proof than CFOs as the data rate ceiling is so much faster so you know that your investment into this media will hold value and relevance for years to come one of the biggest differences between the two cameras is their rear interface here the Komodo features a very limited selection of i o and uses a dual Canon BP battery plate for power this is cool as you can adapt to a range of different battery types here and you can also hot swap these pretty affordable Canon batteries on the Fly the Commodore X on the other hand has a much more comprehensive set of inputs and outputs the original Komodo just had an EXT 12g SDI and DC input whereas the Commodore X has a USBC port for connecting to your phone for control or streaming a 12g SDI a 3.5 millimeter headphone out five pin Limo For Audio accessories the 9 pin EXT for expanding the camera's i o further and lastly a DC power input it also uses a compact v-mount battery plate instead of the Canon BPS on the Komodo a lot of Komodo users would adapt out to v-lock so this integration does make sense this new integrated plate has been designed to work with small mini v-mount batteries with a width of up to 75 millimeters which is actually the same as the v-raptor's mini V lock plate as well both the Komodo and Komodo X share Canon's RF Mount but the Komodo X's Mount is a locking one like the V Raptor whereas the commodos is not locking it's just a normal RF Mount this means it will have more play in it versus the Locking one on the Komodo X there are also a few more specific details that the Komodo X has that the Komodo does not such as expanded shutter control 1080p wireless video whereas the commodos is limited to 720p improved pre-record times massively improved black shading speed and P2P which is IP based gen log it also has generally improved processing which should allow red to add new features that the Komodo may not get there is a roughly 4 000 pound price difference between the Komodo and the Komodo X which is pretty substantial both of the cameras need some accessories to get them to reusable point so expect to add some cash to get these cameras into shooting packages these two cameras are obviously going to be compared if you're looking at renting or buying one but they will work out quite differently in price the Komodo is still an excellent entry point into Red's ecosystem and when you get it rigged up the way you like it it's just an absolute joy to use and can produce some fantastic images it can easily be a good solo operator camera or be used for lightweight configurations such as on a gimbal drone or hard mounted action scenarios the Komodo X is a nice step between the Komodo and Red's V Raptor line it's improved frame rates more professional inputs and outputs integrated v-lock battery plate and a slight bump in image quality does make it a nice middle ground for people needing these improvements and features without the budget that they need to look at the V Raptor talking about V Raptor let's take a look at it versus the Komodo X Out of the lineup these two probably share the least out of the cameras so let's get into it the V Raptor cameras are available with one of two sensors an 8K super 35 and 8K this Division and they are both priced differently with the 8K super 35 kind of sitting between the Komodo X and the Vista Vision 8K Raptor both of these sensors aren't Global shutter like the Komodo or Komodo X but are incredibly fast for wrong shutters this will make the commodos better in fast action scenarios if you really want to limit rolling shutter artifacts it is also more common to find the Komodo sensor being used in Virtual production as the global shutter behaves better than rolling in this environment though the V Raptor still works very well here too the incredibly fast sensors and more robust processing in the v Raptor means that they can capture some incredible frame rates both sensors can capture 120 frames per second and 8K 17x9 up to 240 in 4k 17x9 and up to 600 in 2K in a 2.4 to 1 aspect ratio these frame rates are much better than the ones in the Komodo X so for more specialist work or people who need the flexibility of these increased frame rates the V Raptor offers what you expect from a red camera fantastic looking High frame rate footage with the sensors being higher resolution over the Komodo X the footage does look more detailed compared to it all the cameras share similar color science but I do think that the V Raptors perform slightly better than the Komodo but the Komodo X is definitely closer we actually managed to compare the latitude performance between all four cameras and the results are pretty interesting starting with the Komodo X we can see that Sam's skin starts breaking at around four stops and saturation on our chart starts going at around five however blue is held well to five plus stops which is good compared to the Komodo we can see very similar performance here but that's not too surprising given Red has said that the improvements lie in the shadows between the two the super 35 Raptor performs fantastically here with the best performance out of the bunch with the Vista Vision coming in just before it when comparing the komodos to the Raptors you can see quite a large difference when it comes to underexposure starting with the Komodo X we can see that color is held well throughout the range at four stops under it looks pretty good and compared to the Komodo it definitely performs better however the super 35 Raptor does Edge it out slightly here and the VV Raptor looks the best which isn't too surprising one of the largest differences between the Komodo X and the V raptor is their physical body designs this means the rigging that sits around them is quite different the commodorex is a decent amount smaller and is clearly been designed to be operated in a different way from the V Raptor the V Raptor lacks the touch screen and control on the top of the camera in favor of a large exhaust Grille instead the camera's main control panel is on the right hand side of the body this design lends itself much more to being operated by a person standing on this side of the camera which is a very different design ethos to the Komodo X it's really nice to operate the camera here and you can really customize what you want to control on the different pages as well the menu system on both cameras is very Snappy and fast to navigate through if you use the dsmc3 monitor or the red control app on the Komodo X or the V Raptor the control for them becomes pretty much identical the rears of the camera look quite similar however the V Raptor features two 12g SDI ports which are fully independent of each other which will make Distributing images on set much easier both cameras use a locking version of Canon's RF Mount and can be rigged up in very similar ways though the position of the Komodo X's control panel does make it harder to rig for some configurations there are also some smaller differences between the two such as the V Raptor can record both prores and r3d at the same time whereas the Komodo X cannot and requires rebooting between the two recording modes both cameras have record buttons on the front of them the V Raptors is on the left hand side and the Komodo X's is on the right I personally prefer the position of the v-wraps as one I think red has done a good job of separating these cameras out across the different prices there are clear steps depending on what you need or want for your shooting style unsurprisingly the key differences between the 2B Raptors is the sensors if you are looking at the two of them ask yourself whether or not you would benefit from the extra reach possible with the smaller super 35 8K sensor if not the V wrapped is larger Vista Vision sensor has better low light performance very slightly better latitude performance and of course you get the ability to get that larger sensor look however I think there are a few key markets that the super 35 sensor will be a good option for such as macro and product work some broadcast Productions and the big two being Sports and Wildlife Sports and Wildlife will both benefit from the smaller sensor as it will give you extra reach out of all of your lenses the commodorex can do a lot of what the V Raptors can do but the V Raptors offer quite a substantial step in both image quality and frame rate options the Komodo X has been designed for solo operation and while the v Raptor can be used as such it's clearly been designed to work within a crew or in studio configurations so it does make it better to operate in this environment the fever after XL is Red's Flagship Cinema Camera it is aimed at the highest end of production and that is reflected in its feature set and price tag the XL shares a lot of its key specifications with the smaller Raptors it's available with the choice of either the 8K versus division sensor or AK super 35 sensor they use the same core menu system side operator button and screen layout sensor LTA system Civ Express type B media and r3d raw and prores internal recording options but the XL is over 15 000 pounds more expensive than the regular V Raptor so why would anyone buy it or pay the extra to rent one well there are some big differences between the two the first is the body design the larger body of the XL has been designed to slide into existing high-end production workflows better than its smaller Brothers the XL is a good amount larger than the V Raptor which means it will require larger support equipment sitting around it it is also a dual voltage system that can run on both 12 or 26 volt batteries whereas the Raptor is just 12 volt this paired with the vast range of power distribution on the camera means that you can power a lot of accessories directly off of the camera which will be more common on higher end Productions it also has a lot more inputs and outputs compared to the V Raptor there are actually three 12 gstis on the rear of the camera and a 3G STI at the front which is aimed at being used with an evf there's also a five pin for audio accessories a 4 pin control port a 9-pin one gig ethernet port and a gigabit USB C Port it also has these antennas which are for the internal Wireless time code and gen lock the XL has an integrated ambient Master locket which means any device that works with the ambient communication network will work with it it can be used both wirelessly and wired by the five pin time code or BNC for Gen lock that were on the back of the camera as well with the extra space that the body has the XL has a more robust cooling solution than the Raptor it has three intakes around the side and bottom and an exhaust on the top this improves cooling system should result in even more stable temperatures and help keep the safe Express type B media cool as well this increased body size also helps to house the new internal electronic ND system the excel's built-in ND system has been designed from the ground up by Red to be very flexible and perform well it gives you an option to use a clear filter then two stops three to seven stops worth of ND this is granularly controllable in quarter third or four stop increments which is really precise red recently released this exact system in PL adapter form for the Komodo Komodo X and V Raptor cameras which is awesome but it is pricey there are other ndpl adapters on the market which perform well but this red one looks to integrate the best with these cameras the original Raptor uses a locking Canon RF lens mount whereas the XL uses a more robust interchangeable Mount similar to Red's previous system it comes with PL as standard but this can be swapped out to other mounts like EF or LPL this means you don't need to use an adapter like you do with the V Raptor it's rock solid and reliable which is a big thing when using it on the highest end Productions the XL as well as the rest of res lineup has phase detect autofocus which is actually pretty usable but the XL will require you to use EF lenses to do this for a lot of owner operators the regular V Raptor will be an incredible camera that can capture some amazing imagery and it can adapt to a massive range of different shooting scenarios and for this Market the benefits of the XL might not be worth the extra fifteen thousand pounds however for many high-end Productions that require these extra features and tweaks over the V Raptor you get to use either of the excellent available sensors and red Stellar compressed raw while still providing the features that you need to get the job done effectively so we've explored all of Red's new dsmc3 cameras in this video but there is still another option worth considering grabbing a used dsmc2 system it's pretty crazy how much you can grab a used dsmc2 system for now we've got helium 8K kits for around 6 000 pounds and Gemini kits are around 8 000 pounds on our website these are kits not just brains which does make them look quite attractive when you consider the price of a full new DSM C3 kit of course there are plenty of improvements with dsmc3 the biggest probably being how much faster the camera's menus are and the improved cooling but there is also a lot to still love with the smc2 you have more in-depth raw compression options fantastic image quality with a really good range of sensors an interchangeable Rock Solid lens mount system and a comprehensive range of accessories including integrated monitors I really want to see a monitor like the old five or seven inch for the dsmt3 range where you don't have an RMI or a cable connected to it just a simple monitor onto the Pogo pins like the ds72 one would be great to see we use the Gemini as our in-house camera for years and I do miss it from time to time dsmc2 can still produce excellent images and they are absolute workhorses if treated well as with any used camera you may find some of these have been heavily used so buying use kit can be a bit of a Minefield but that is made easier when buying use kit from us due to our 90-day warranty on pretty much all of our used stock all of these stock that we sell is professionally evaluated and serviced by our in-house Pro repairs engineers and we are actually the UK's exclusive red certified service center if you want to see exactly what we currently have in stock head over to cvp.com used if you're interested in any of the used kit that we've got on the website and want to check it out for yourself in person just drop us an email via the details down in the description below we've covered each of these cameras in depth in some of our previous videos so if you want to learn more about any of these cameras I've made a little playlist with everything that we've made related to Red in the description below let us know if you have any further questions in the comments below and if you'd like the video please give it a like and maybe consider subscribing so you don't miss out on our awesome upcoming content and thank you so much for watching

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Length: 16min 46sec (1006 seconds)

Published: Wed Aug 23 2023