Coffee with Kari- Live Q&A With a Mortician

hey everyone so that took a hot minute uh been trying to let these sit for about 10 minutes in the queue so they can gear up for you guys but then it seems to cause problems if i let it sit for a while i don't know what's going on i don't know why it won't um work for me that way so let's see if we're working good yay hello nathan hey damian good morning so thank you guys for joining happy happy friday so this has been about the longest hey jw about the longest week of my life i think it feels like so it was supposed to go to florida and everything this week so monday morning um i cancelled it all because i finally gave in to the fact i had a virus i had something wrong um there had been vomiting there had been low grade fever um so i went got my cova test i went to the doctor i checked me for strep everything was negative doctor said you just have a stupid virus um so i came home i crawled in bed stayed in bed till about 11 the next morning took a shower crawled back in bed uh it has been a long week and then one of my children got it um two other kids that had been over for playdates the weekend before also got it um a lot of vomiting going on with it and really feeling like poo so i'm finally feeling a little alive today a little rested a little back at it so um we'll see we'll see so there was no florida no florida um no sun kissed carrie coming home from relaxation uh but god knows better he knew i needed to just chill and stay and i forced myself to just be sick guys it's hard for me to not do work not do all sorts of things so i really just tried to force myself to relax and to rest um so hello and welcome so i had some questions submitted by kathy um man my my viewership in st louis is strong i'm not sure why in st louis maybe a lot of people dying down there lately with all the shootings and stuff man st louis is vicious right now um but you guys really send me a lot of good questions yeah welcome hey everybody hey amber hey aaron thank you so much yeah i am feeling better so thank you so uh but kathy had sent me some questions specifically she watches a lot of dr g and wondered some different questions so i wanted to just hit on those this morning casey is asking though i'm very interested in getting the fingerprint jewelry does the funeral home usually have fingerprints of the deceased i won't say usually um there are ones that will ask you before they fingerprint the deceased there are some that will fingerprint everyone that comes into their care not for jewelry purposes but just for tracking and identification that way if anybody ever comes back that's one way to identify who they were caring for but um you can call and check with them you can always use a fingerprint from a discharge from the military from any other tracking that someone has had their fingerprints done from two but check with the funeral home and see if they have if you know ahead of time you can always ask the funeral home to pre fingerprint the person so good morning good morning you guys good morning so it's so good to see you guys um so kathy had asked i know the funeral homes don't bring body bags to the hospice house if a body comes from a hospital after an organ donation or the medical examiner after an autopsy our body bag's typically used yes like a hundred percent of the time i've never seen not a body bag used when someone comes from an organ tissue donation or an autopsy the body is cut open at that point in different ways and will more likely be leaking out fluids because they don't suck out the blood but the blood typically is there's areas opened that can be bleeding into and so they will put them in a bag to kind of contain everything for transport um so a body bag would be used in those situations yeah erin i that's i am so congested and i thought that's all it was and then the vomiting and then everything else came and i still have this weird allergy thing though i think going on amber that's a good yes amber used her military records from of her husband to have some fingerprints made have i ever been sick right after an embalming no not at all i'm usually hungry after an embalming and i go eat um greg said should the funeral home start fingerprinting the homicide victims in st louis to see if they are wanted for other homicides you know jw it's not a bad idea to i mean that person's prince would then be on file somewhere but i think if they are a victim of homicide the medical examiner will most likely fingerprint them and put them in the system i would think i would that seems logical that they fingerprint them as part of their investigation not so much even investigation but their inspection of the deceased even if they don't do an internal autopsy i would think that they would fingerprint them and they typically do because they come back with black ink all over their hands how do you handle the deceased that are hiv positive the same exact way we handle anybody else if we know ahead we may just work a little more cautiously but exactly the same as anybody else you don't know who's infectious with what i mean somebody could have hiv and nobody knows it somebody could have crutchfield jacob and nobody knows it and they die in a car accident and there's all sorts of contagions that people carry that you don't know you have sometimes ah jen how is it you're still sick and still look beautiful oh jen you should have seen me i will i will post some sticky pictures from this week um i it has taken this might be the first day i've worn makeup in like since monday when i tried to act like i was feeling okay um after autopsies when they were removing weighing and dissecting organs did they just toss them back into the cavity as one big bundle try to paste them in the general original location or toss them they're all placed into a bag like a garbage bag disposal biohazard bag of some sort and then placed back into the cavity after all the inspection of all the organs so the person is a hollowed out cavity um with the breast plate cut off and that breast plate is then laid on top of the bag the person has sometimes they're stitched up decent sometimes it's just a couple whip stitches which are just quick whipped around stitches i need to do a video on stitches don't i i haven't done or suturing i should say um wait i haven't done one on suturing i need to maybe i can use like chicken breasts or something and cut and suture i don't know we're thinking out loud here but i need to do one on that um but that bag will then hold all the internal organs when they get to the point of the funeral home what about the brain after an autopsy do they put it back in so the brain never goes back into the cranium typically when we receive them there'll be a huge wad of cotton or sometimes a towel that is placed inside the cranium to soak up some of the blood that's still draining out and we will open pull up the skin flap pull off the cranium piece that has been cut and then we can see inside the skull because when we inject up here this part the circulatory system that's up in your head has been cut typically by removing the brain there's something called the circle of willis like bruce willis go google it circle of willis it's what's going on right in the middle it's about this big of a section of where the arteries and the circulatory system all connects and typically that is snipped when the brain is removed and so we have to do kind of this thing where it's this part is good if there's two people one person turns on the machine the other person peaks with the skull flap and uses um little clamps to clamp off what sprain because they'll typically go up and spray out because it's the circle is broken often but we want to keep it a closed system to get as much fluid inside each side of the head so you kind of pick up the skull flap clamp if there's only one of you you run up to the machine turn it on run back pick it up clamp go turn it off back on clamp um to get the flow right so it's a bit of a process when you are injecting up into the head when you're embalming someone that's been autopsied um but it's so cool to see what is going on inside a head and that that is what is making your whole body function it's for real guys like if you step back and think about it the biggest miracle in the whole world it's crazy so um gonna hit some questions my boyfriend died from an accidental fentanyl overdose they took his prince right in the house greg has jw do you hear david says greg has a good idea tell greg to call and tell somebody about that do you have any suggestions on how tips to help a loved one grieve especially when you're grieving too you have to take care of yourself first um they talk about it the same is like you're on an airplane when the oxygen mass drops you can't help someone put on their mask if your mask is not on so you have to get yourself in a healthy good place and it really depends on who this other person is that you're talking about if it's a child then definitely you need to focus on you and make sure you're get you're in a really good zone then focus on you know making sure that child is well as as also if it's another adult you need to fully worry about you before you can really dive in and worry about somebody else because if you are in a ill phase of grieving where you are really struggling you can't help somebody else and you can't tell somebody else how to grieve or how to get into a better place they have to do it on their own but you can be present just being present for somebody is good hey do you want to just come be and watch a movie hey let's just grab dinner hey let's just do something you can't make their grief go away but you can walk with somebody in grief while you're grieving the hardest thing that most people want to do is talk too much because we're uncomfortable in somebody else's grief so be silent let somebody talk if they need to talk but if somebody else is grieving you can't put your grief on them they have enough on their plate so you've got to find another person who's outside of the situation and whether it's a therapist a pastor somebody else that is your counselor to you that's who you have to find but just being present is sometimes the best thing you can do as well have you ever had to use mortuary makeup on myself i gotta scan back up on myself or others in case of emergency i've not i'll use like hairspray if i forgot my hairspray or something but no i've not had to put more tory makeup on myself how long do viruses and bacteria typically stay in a deceased body it depends on what it is some of them become inactive pretty quickly some of them can stay active for weeks or even longer katie no i have never had to testify in a case before i feel like i would go all like judge duty crazy i i feel like i would be so so nervous like i was on trial um like you can't handle the truth crazy off the wall i don't even know that's what i picture is that i would i would get all movie hollywood up in my head and turn it into something it wasn't who knows but um no i've not had to testify in a case if someone is a corner case we as nurses have to leave all tubes lying in place they come into your care with them or does the coroner remove them no in that case with medical stuff the coroner does remove the medical stuff or the medical examiner removes all the medical stuff before they come to us if they've had an autopsy my mom lost her best friend she's so broken and i feel like i should be stronger for her but i'm feeling it too yeah you know and it depends maggie did your mom get the chance to say goodbye to her friend did they have a funeral did they have a service did they have a viewing if some of those things were skipped she might just be missing some of those things to help her kind of get to that next place you might ask your mom you know hey do you want to do a monthly let's at least schedule you and i's going to dinner once a month or schedule for the next few months an activity like a wine and paint night you know like those wine and canvas or you know some activity that you two are going and doing something you're not trying to be in place of anybody you're not trying to forget about something maybe she used to do with her friend but a new activity to look forward to a new activity to create a social situation and experience for you guys just something new to be out for the next few months at least jen you're so so you're so welcome robert saying he has a funeral director he knows that uses body bag all the time no matter the condition of the body i would hesitate to say that he uses a full body bag that he's going to dispose of after because you have to dispose of them after there's a lot of people that use pouches and it looks like a body bag on the cot but it's a pouch that zips it's not a body bag a body bag is a one time disposable and they're expensive so for a funeral director to spend all that money every time they go to bring a deceased under their care i would question that robert just because of costs and everything hey tiffany mark um i may be going to california next month so if i do i'll see if caitlyn's available and try and do another video or at least something jane when a body is exhumed after it's been embalmed how can medical examiners determine cause of death after the use of a trocha i would think it would do so much damage to the internal organs you're right it can however some of the condition of those organs is still going to be there you're gonna and like if there's some blood clots up inside the in the lungs those are still gonna be there typically embedded in the lungs there's still gonna be some things that they can find they can still do testing of some tissue depending on the embalming so there are things they can still look for they can still look for different trauma on the body bruising things like that so they can still look for things eileen we do not reuse body bags not supposed to what hairspray do you typically use in the funeral home i could imagine you would use super stiff stuff like aquanaut oh yeah um aerosol aerosol aerosol aerosol is my friend um because it goes on you can it goes on more uh evenly so to me aerosol is the way like aquanaut or whatever aerosol way and you want something pretty rigid it's a one-time thing it's not like they have to they're in the wind or they're moving um that you have to protect the hair but you do have to defy gravity like if i lay down my hair is all gonna fall backward right now like i'm not gonna get this effect if i'm laying down but if i hold it in place with some hairspray i can still get that definitely uh a battle are coping 19 bodies contagious after death yes very much so up to 90 days they've been found why are body bags different colors they just come in different colors i have a two minute video on body bags so go check that two minute video out maggie okay so your mom just lost her friend uh less than a week ago the services are on monday and tuesday so your mom's not even in grief yet it takes two weeks for grief to settle in right now she is in the shock and pain stage of losing somebody her going the services going through the services are going to be a good start to processing anything so she's not even into grief and the big loss right now is the numb foggy just trying to let your brain convince your heart that this is all real stage so this is just fresh and new right now we're not even in grief yet so just in about two weeks is where judge how she's feeling you don't need to take care of your mom right now your mom is strong she is capable just be with her and be with each other and hold each other during this you don't need to fix what she's feeling right now it's too raw and too new and too real for her and you as well so just go through the motions right now that's all you can do is go through the motions there's nothing to fix right now or to to do do i ever see ghosts walking around i have never seen a ghost walking around i've had some paranormal experiences where i see things out of the corner of my eye or certain things happen that i can't explain doesn't mean it's ghosts just paranormal meaning unexplainable um welcome linda live so yeah how do you embalm a body after it's been through an autopsy um same way you just inject the through the arteries they're just going to be more exposed since you don't have the heart as your main engine essentially you would have to go to the different parts of the body to inject and then you treat the cavity place it back in suture everybody up everything up so nicole had a great question nicole if you're still on place your question again um because it for me to scroll back up through is kind of hard to go back and find questions at this point so nicole just replace your question um if i haven't answered it yet would there ever be a reason why you could not bring a body into a church if the church doesn't allow we've had during kova that they won't allow bodies in the church if they're coveted positive or other situations otherwise not really unless we can't get them physically in because of doorways or things like that some little bitty country churches are hard to maneuver through doors and into spaces so i would think those would be the only really reason that we couldn't do it yeah i don't know her question so have to have you re post it do you embalm the removed organs we treat them with fluids we would pour cavity fluid like in the bag seal up the bag and let it um fester and let it get treated while we're involving the rest of the person suck out the fluid and then put the bag back in some people will do we call it shake and bake some people call it that and we're breading the viscera where you take out each organ cover it in a pair of formaldehyde powder which means a powdered form of liquid formaldehyde and you kind of coat each organ and then place them back in the cavity so embalmers do one of two ways there what is the one thing you've learned on the job about a human body where you thought wow that's so cool there are so many things the human body is literally the coolest thing ever what it does i mean it grows another person inside of it from a little sperm in a little egg like what um the way that it this isn't even from um what i've learned at work but i've seen it so much at work that if something can't get enough blood to it your body grows more arteries to support it so like when i had gallstones my gallstones were not passing they were just accumulating in my gallbladder i was getting very sick i was starting to get almost septic in my gallbladder because i was just accumulating when they went in they found i had grown seven additional little arteries to my gallbladder to account for the size of it but my body had changed and morphed because i needed more blood flow so i grew more arteries and i see this throughout sometimes when you go to raise the carotid there's all sorts of funky things happening or you see other areas where you raise vessels and you see some funky things happening because the body has grown what it needs it's like if the highway has a big hole in it it builds its own new highway it's your body is freaking amazing so treat it well and treat it good in the news they are showing funeral pyres in india but i read that a fire isn't hot enough to cremate so what is happening to those bodies a fire can be hot enough to cremate it depending on what you fuel it with so as long as there's fuel to it or some kind of thing to it it's going to burn the body down it's not going to burn down a body like a retort will a retorts heat is built to burn and completely vaporize essentially the box that the person is in and everything else so they're not going to be left with just the basics of cremation like we do they're not going to have just the brittle bone left and everything else burned away they're still going to have some of the wood there and all the other stuff there and especially when they're running one person after another and doing these kind of mass cremations essentially one after the next they're gonna have just an accumulation and they can pull off what they can what's left of the body but you're still gonna have more content than you would in a retort like we see do you fill the body cavity with something after an autopsy does the rib cage collapse the rib cage does not collapse it is a very rigid strong structure do you fill the body cavity with something no your internal organs in that bag fill your whole cavity up we do have to fill up the throat because often the tongue is cut and taken out and you want to rebuild the adam's apple and rebuild up this area of the neck otherwise you're going to get this weird flat and you can see that so if you go to a funeral and you know the person had an autopsy check out their neck area and if it's really flat that means they didn't fill out the neck because that what is all up and inside here is typically stripped out and is is kind of hollowed out and so you've got to kind of refill this area out some people use a really firm cardboard tube to stick in and that gives a great structure to that space so it just depends on the embalmer what they make use do bodies make any weird noises you know i don't i can't even tell you the last time i've had a body even like expel a little bit of air when you roll them and stuff it's been quite a while but they do sometimes um you know if you work with more bodies you're going to hear it more often i mean i have friends they don't boom by six bodies in a day sometimes and so they're going to run into some of those little nuances more often when my father-in-law passed i tried to lift his hands to place flowers i couldn't make them separate at all is it normal for someone to be that firm sometimes embalmers kind of choose how firm they want bodies to be and some people kind of rock them is what we would say is make them super firm by using high index fluids we do that because we don't know how sometimes the body is going to respond and if you use higher strength for every single body you're going to get a more consistently preserved response from bodies because you could have somebody that's super firm and you come in the next day and they're loosey-goosey because something inside of their body from a chemical from a medicine or something they were using has neutralized the formaldehyde but we don't know always going in so there are all these things that we can't know and so we have to kind of guess about um used to be a little bit easier but now people are walking menacing cabinets literally so much medication in people and then also the chemicals you put in your body every day by choice with what you take in and eat and surround yourself with in your home and everything so we combat all of that because it's all inside your body inside your tissues if someone opts to do a viewing before cremation is the body and boned if the funeral home requires embalming for a public visitation then yes you have to still authorize it though any advice for someone leaving for mortuary science this august thanks for being you um just take the experience for what it is make sure you have been exposed to the field before you go to school so you don't invest a lot of money in something that's really not a right fit for you if they have a flame powered by natural gas or propane would the funeral pyre burn the body more completely more than likely because you can control how hot it's going to be at that point you know wood you can only control so much once you get it hot enough as long as you keep you know embers going or charcoal i mean think of a grill think of any fire that you have made yourself can you consistently get it hot enough to a solid temperature without having to put new cold wood back on or put lighter fluid on it to get it hot again or something so that there's such a fluctuation there oh black trouble bro you're welcome does the body look the same after 10 years no way to know there not enough people have been dug up after 10 years on any study done on it do i have another person with me when i'm vomiting just the deceased nobody else is a higher concentration needed for chemo patients not specifically no not specifically but chemo patients take a wide range of other medication while they're getting chemo as well so there's not just one version of chemo there's multiple versions with multiple medications with multiple like some take zofran some don't some take a cannabis some don't some are you know you've got all these variables with it when someone passes what is the family responsible for and what is the funeral home responsible for legally kiana that's a huge question can you narrow in on one area of what you're talking about if you get a body with staph infection from a hospital do you handle it differently from a non-staff cadaver cadaver is a word for somebody donated to medical science so that would be corpse or body or something not cadaver there i like good terminology guys um no i mean if we know that they have let's say mrsa or we know they have c diff or we know they have something super contagious going in we may use a higher level of ppe protection personal protective equipment where some funeral directors don't wear respirators or head coverings or goggles if we know they're contagious at a certain level we may wear more of that kind of stuff i wear goggles because i've been sprayed before in the face and i refuse to get sprayed again once you get sprayed with poop once never again um once you you know breathe in certain things once yep never again once you get it all over your hair once yep never again so you know it just depends on the personal and balmer's choice i don't have a time frame of how long it would cremate by using firewood and it depends how much wood what was your did you have another catalyst for the fire um how hot is the wood how big is the body what are they wearing are they in something too many variables hey holly have you seen funeral homes use volunteers like people who are retired and wanting something to keep busy or people who are disabled and unable to work but could volunteer a couple hours a week why would you ever volunteer these are paid positions you should not volunteer to do this type of work ever i don't care if you're disabled or older or anything i know many most part-timers at funeral homes are older retired people and you get paid well or you get paid it depends on the funeral home i know a lot of disabled people i guess that you would call disabled who work at funeral homes in wheelchairs crutches whatever hearing loss sight loss work at funeral homes full paid jobs so there's no reason to ever work for no pay don't do it your honesty is absolute best policy thank you i'm gonna be like some people may not like what i say and that's fine i'm gonna be very honest and i'm not trying to be unkind with my words ever um but i'm gonna correct people and i'm gonna tell the truth that's what you can always count on and i'm not gonna be crazy off the wall or anything but i'm gonna tell the truth how do you greet a family when doing a removal from a home um i just walk in and i introduce myself i kind of figure out who everybody is and i ask them to show me where their loved one is and i like to talk to the family where the loved one is so we can i can have a better conversation i don't want to ignore the fact there's a dead person in the house or the space i go to where they are and talk to the family there that person was important enough especially if it's at a home to bring them home like let's have them in part of the conversation sort of thing i mean what does the family have to provide the funeral home legally well legally they don't have to provide anything they can abandon the body and not do anything but the family needs to provide death certificate information if they're willing they need to pay if they're willing otherwise it gets turned over to the state and they don't get a say with what happens to the person so it just depends on the situation have i ever cried when embalming someone um not while no i've cried right before and i've cried after but not during during i'm focused and i'm doing going through the steps um autopilot let's say if the body is contagious are they after embalming and ready for viewing yes they can still have contagion in them but we do everything we can link with coven we're going to try to sanitize the nose and the mouth which is where that's going to come out of we bathe the body we embalm very strongly um with strong fluids so we try to cut out all of the contagion every which way we can so they're not as contagious but we can't say with a hundred percent certainty that they're not contagious but we do everything we can how do i handle the fluids leaking again on the mausoleum my dad is on i've tried to discuss this with a cemetery but is still not fixed now all you can do is is approach them and find out if not then you can call the health department and report it and say listen at the cemetery there are what appears to be bodily fluids running out of one of the mausoleums they are not fixing it and cleaning it up and it is a health risk to me and anybody else visiting this mausoleum so you could try to go that route but go in and stand and physically see if you can get somebody to come look at it with you and ask for what date it will be fixed by um be aggressive but kind be not bitching about it but asking for safety and a response time of when they are going to fix it by so it can be costly and it can be a huge um event and if they're super busy at the cemetery they may not be able to get to it right away they could at least come clean the outside of the mausoleum off though you know the face plate the face part of it so that's not out there but if they don't are not taking it seriously i would call the health department because they could then respond and hopefully get a little probing going on if a body needs to be buried quickly and you get a situation where you want it to rapidly liquefy versus preserve what do you do then you use uh alkaline hydrolysis and you go through what would be called water cremation to a lot of people that's going to liquefy as quick as you can but otherwise you just wrap in a shroud and very directly are you worried about the high rate of cancer with funeral workers i'm thinking it's the chemicals used i mean formaldehyde is a carcinogen it is a gas formaldehyde is not a fluid it is a gas that is put into a fluid vehicle for us to use for preservation so this gas is out and in the air we try to control it as much as we can osha controls it we regulate it but it is still something that is breathed in in the embalming room and around us all the time i know many funeral directors who have throat and esophageal type cancers but they are also a generation that didn't use respirators and even gloves some of them um so it's also about knowledge and protecting ourselves when a lot of funeral directors just say ah effort and they don't wear the protective gear that they could be wearing so it's also some personal choice the ppe is there whether they're choosing to wear it or not is up to them but there's high risk of cancer on everything there's as much formaldehyde around your home and around your vehicle and everything else you do too so we definitely are exposed a little more to certain chemicals but we're all exposed to chemicals every day too have i ever involved a body that is still warm oh yeah many many many um you know within an hour or two of death even which is always super creepy and i kind of hold my breath a little when i'm making an incision just because what if but um you also can just tell they're dead and that they're not there so yeah yeah robert you do you can volunteer at funerals like through your church and stuff that's a lot of volunteering um every typically most people at the church are volunteering their time to be there for a funeral so that's a different scenario how is a body handled for a deceased that shot himself in the head what is fine for the autopsy i don't know what that question what is fine for the autopsy mean well it shot that yourself in the head you have a million variety of what that head could look like from a handgun to a shotgun to a rifle all different scenarios where you can't even tell the person shot themselves that you can barely find an entry hole you can barely find trauma they just look dead to no head left so it's quite the wide variety of what that person could look like is it true that it costs money to hold a body in a morgue um it can be if you want an extended hold period yes you may be charged a per day storage fee because they're taking up space that you may need if you say let's say you're a small funeral home and you have a two drawer cooling unit and you have somebody that wants to be held for a month because the family is going on vacation or they're doing whatever that month of being in that cold storage is taking a space that another body might need so you paying 50 a day or whatever the per day storage fee is is not unheard of and it's legal as long as it's on the general price list um you need to get your mortuary school degree how many years it's about three or four years with your prerequisites your mortuary school and your apprenticeship so if you figure like three four years that's about how long it is it is a lot of everything you have to do psychology you have to do social work you have to do religion you have to do public speaking art um debate uh psychology diary say that one and biology anatomy accounting math and then you drive into laws and embalming law and anatomy chemistry of embalming and all these more specific type things to deal with funeral directing what do we do with burn bodies it depends on the level of burns so some of these questions guys are so general i could have a deceased that has like just a little surface burning and there's no difference or i can have a body that is completely charred down to the bone so can you see that some of these questions there's such a huge range of what the answers could be depending on the scenario so um i'm happy to answer questions but i would have to answer probably 10 different scenarios with how do we deal with the burned body because of the variety second degree burns third degree burns you know all huge variables um they do involve newborns that's not true that they don't involve newborns newborns are embalmed if you're going to have a funeral and stuff so that's not a true statement thank you for answering questions does your job ever give you anxiety it gives me anxiety worrying that i forgot something like oh my gosh should i call that place is that going to be taken care of what's going to happen with this is the family going to like how they looked definitely anxiety with that i'm a high anxiety person anyway i worry about everything like i run worst case scenarios for literally everything including doing a live video like as my audio goods the chat gonna be there you name it um so yeah i always have anxiety yes you can embalm a multiple stab wound victim i mean they could have a hundred stab wounds on them and you can still embalm our bodies in cold storage frozen or just kept cool they are not frozen in america we are regulated what our temperatures of our coolers have to be if there's a deceased inside them they have to be between i think it's 35 and 45 degrees so we can't freeze a body a medical examiner can do a whole different temperature range and they can freeze a body we cannot so we are very regulated we don't want a frozen body that doesn't benefit us it hurts some of the cells for us to be able to boom if we do embalm um so we keep bodies cool at a cooled level um but we don't freeze we are fearfully and wonderfully made karen thank you oh my gosh guys lots of rambling craziness let me answer this one question too i had someone asked about um at a later date during the pandemic a very common line in obituary states something about a celebration after the coveted threat is no longer an issue how will that be scheduled should we involve the funeral home what are the steps to contact the cemetery and monument company well that's really up to the family um it depends on what their adulator date is going to look like and what kind of services or gathering they may want to have and it'll depend on if they've paid for and set something up with the funeral home already they just have to call and reschedule it later but the funeral home is not going to keep calling and bothering the family and saying do you want a schedule do you want a schedule do you want to schedule it's really up to the family to say hey we're ready to schedule or hey it's time for this can you help us call the cemetery and stuff so the funeral home is there to help and to assist but it's up to the family to really take the steps i know that some funeral homes have circled back and called all of the service at a later date families but it's still up to the family and their comfort level and their restrictions in their state right now we are still at 25 people for funerals in michigan we're not open to beyond that so we're pretty regulated down to a really small number at this point with 25 people so it just depends on the state and what their regulations are all right one or two more questions guys without giving the state have you encountered some absolutely weird rules for different states um that's a good question dustin i haven't encountered enough state laws as i'm going through and as i do all of these type of things i do encounter some different things but nothing that i would say is wackier off the wall yet not that i found i think it's ludicrous that alkaline hydrolysis is not legal in every state yet that's ludicrous to me and weird but other than that nothing specific when it comes to things i'm sure as i get more exposure to different states and different laws but every state has completely different laws it is the weirdest thing to me i don't understand why we can't have one national set rules and laws and licensure and everything it would make everything so much easier can you embalm a person a victim of a car accident which the person was crushed absolutely a hundred percent i started watching your watts video in your opinion was shanann's case able to be an open casket kind of case um just for the decomposition factor and smell more than likely not for the public but i have no idea what she looked like honestly you can take two people in scenarios like that and they could decompose completely different was she face down face up on her side on her back was there any animals that came out you could have one set up where some the animals came and found the person and you had some you know tissue eaten or more larvae activity you know all these variables so i honestly don't know i would guess though just because of decomposition that she may not have been able to be viewed for public for sure for smell reasons but beyond that i it would be just guessing if bodies are only kept at a certain temperature and they're stored for a couple of months does the body deteriorate definitely decomposition still happens being cold doesn't stop the tissue from breaking down the body's gonna get soft and the tissue is gonna get all broken down inside the vasculature still decomposes it just does it a little bit slower so it's going to be very hard once you pull somebody out of cold storage and warm them up that body quickly starts to try to catch up to the decomposition rate at which it should be but that tissue is going to be super soft super mushy it's a really weird texture to even explain but it's not good it's not good at all so they can still have skin slip they can still be green they can still um have a lot going on with them tiffany it depends the cemeteries can set the regulation based on the state level at 25 right now or a cemetery is not doesn't care because it depe it depends and it depends what the funeral home the rules are so gray area to me because okay it's a funeral a funeral is regulated to 25 people however the outdoor laws are different than a funeral law so if we do a graveside do we follow what an outdoor gathering law is or do we follow a funeral law who knows and who's regulating it i don't even know um so it's yeah gray area one more question robert thank you for the happy mother's day comment says or ella when you take care of a body do you in the back your mind think about not hurting it not in the way you might be saying like when i'm cleaning their nails i'm not worrying i'm poking too far um when i'm making an incision i don't think if i'm hurting them no none of that i'm not going to drop them though i'm going to worry about hurting that body by dropping it and doing some more damage to it but i'm not worrying about them being in pain at all not even a little bit no so well thank you good morning pastor jack welcome welcome thank you guys for joining if you don't subscribe click the subscribe button and make sure you check out another video um thank you for joining and i will see you guys soon bye

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Published: Fri May 07 2021