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happy mom happy baby is brought to you in association with fisher-price their innovative toys are designed to be loved by both parents and children at every age and stage giving us a helping hand throughout our journey so that we can focus on the most important job in the world parenting welcome to another episode of happy mom happy baby lampard cars today's guests I'm gonna say you're both comedians one in a traditional way and the other one just makes me laugh into my phone hysterically do you think does that annoy you Chris is an actual you make people oh thanks yeah David Walliams classes themselves to comedian he's never done stand-up so there you go very boring Lee I once heard that the difference was comic a comic is someone I do stand-up a comedian is someone who makes enough on telling us something else very very good thanks now could you put your own yeah yeah yeah we get that really awkward thing you know when we do it together were like who's going to talk let you lead because you know this is you know I just feel like I'm gonna let you're sitting on the left it's happy mom happy baby it's not happy dad happy baby I think I'll just take a back seat we've never had that it's the two people together talking about you know becoming parents similar because we're from the same place but different because I've got two siblings Chris is an only child saw stories of grown but they're really different on me yeah yeah cause he likes to play there you know violin for herself and her childhood until I was 18 and my sister moved out where's Chris had one his whole life sometimes I sleep in the spare room as well just because why not [Laughter] tragedy about 13 14 the first time we met each other in the street Rosie and a friend were coming around to see the big the corner I think was quite some serious him really all but at each other yeah we all like now we still live in the hometown where we both grew up it's not something you talked about it was a big decision to make or it kind of just happened because we've both worked away from horn a lot since well me from 18 you doing comedy from about 21 1 yeah and then we were both home living at the same time and it was just kind of like we just did you know houses are a lot cheaper we've got childcare on the doorstep you know so we've just did one of our favorite things to do with an evening in the house is turn on an episode episode of location location when it's a London one it's a comedy for us and said you still don't you and we were like yeah how does she know that and 20a listen to your podcast and you said the bat live in the room I thought yeah there's we live on a street where I used to walk through when I was younger too from my old house to go to the shops and it was the really posh Street and I was like I'd love to live here it was literally New Year's Day 2013 was when we officially started going out New Year's Day held off just so we'll be real easy remember apologies to all your listeners that was tedious that was a northern man chime ass heavens above so after passing each other on the string all the time and hanging out kids how did that happen how did that transition happen well we then went college hmm and boyfriend in maths I mean I quit after a couple months and but yeah he even at night then we're sort of sorry well knew each other walk past each other in the corridor even though it was weird even though we didn't really know each other I would only spent that time of knowing each other when were younger but it was always a hello hello wasn't it yeah and then and then yeah came back on of froma ture in 2012 and then I met you again and then that was that we kissed in a mutual friends garage so why the garage because we'd been on a night out and we went back there was mom and dad's house and because he lived with his mom and dad at the time and we were drinking and were in the garage because I think the living room was too loud something don't know take a look okay next a little more tape thing yeah the definitey was alone why was it more like there was something there listen the point is it was classy classy [Laughter] [Laughter] [Music] fast-forward a few years and something that you've already married by that point so did you think about that's the next bit dude like let's get on it we we were one of them people that this is gonna sound really silly at that time in my life I'd you only heard about people having complications to get pregnant yeah so we been married for about six months yeah and it was at the Christmas and we just kind of said should we just not be as careful you know we want we knew we want the children and we were like she would just not be as careful and I was like it'll take take like yeah yeah you know oh yeah and it was we had we had sex twice first I'd try for baby we're gonna have so much really upset us really really freaks us out is a baby in there makes us feel all cold inside just one door you get here the letterbox gone and you look at me just some guys stick it's not cool I don't know why I just find it weird don't know why and it's this thing it shouldn't be but it's just once once your partner becomes the sort of vessel for your child you just want to sort of protect them and you just want it kind of it's not like you're doing stare find them attractive because pregnant was a beautiful we were on holiday it was horrible it's along straight so basically we went a Dubai I'd brought my photo my light or like the ligaments in my front foot so I could hardly walk the weather was shocking so we couldn't go for a walk and then the weather was terrible so we were just gonna get drunk and I took a pregnancy test found out I was pregnant and we couldn't drink so I was like yeah that's bad on holiday what you do you go for a walk if it's Dubai you go for walk around the malls I'm gonna you get on it I couldn't do things it was checked me it was a catch-22 and then when your first timely pregnant you like what can I eat yeah so I was googling everything and I think you get so paranoid about this I was like on you that I can't have that yeah who's like just eating chips deformed your mom and told your mom we didn't for my parents wouldn't really tell anyone I told one of my mates and it was like it was just like but it was just a strange experience of finding ours yeah I was asleep and you got up in the middle of the night to do a presentation I had a really weird feeling even though I thought it would take so long to get pregnant just because we've had unprotected sex and I think I was late coming on to my period and I just I just knew it was about four o'clock in the morning and I got up and I took a pregnancy test with me and I did it didn't I yeah and it was one of those you know the ones where the kid comes on like tells you how well it will be a speaker congratulation had a little bit celebrate chugged it I did that thing in America where you put a hole in the tell you what pregnant wife free taxi is the best world I was so I was drinking the things you wouldn't normally drink that none doors during the deer driving fantastic yeah I mean a pic of myself how did you find it like an easy no no - no I hated it really yeah I'm not I'm not yeah I just did not enjoy and not having control over my body I know this sounds so silly but I've grown up I feel like I've known my body really well and then to just be hurled and just the unknown it really didn't sit well with us and our a pond5 store as well so I was just like a must felt I just felt disgusting didn't I and I just you did don't get me wrong I loved growing I love growing baby I love feeling and kicking I loved that we were going to be a family I loved all that kind of side of it but the hormones and like I luckily didn't get sickness touching would like but I got headaches and I was just tired and yeah and Chris was working away a lot and I think I was just I was just an emotional wreck I think some women fly through it and then oh there's dawn so much and I think you just got to be honest god I think I've really every pregnancy is different as well I don't think it makes you a worse mom if you didn't enjoy being your daughter Robin as soon as he was born I was like first house go to the landlord mind you he's a terrible tenant is he is terrible no Mormons don't get me wrong moments where we'd like you know well you stroke your belly and whatever but then most the majority I was just I was just nugget so what was what was the labor like competing Robin ah labor was a fun ol time and strangely I actually quite enjoyed it no I'm gonna be that's the thing no I've told you this it was the most powerful thing I've ever done no no nothing like that was a nightmare but I just week I got it across scan the week before because I was huge and and they said you can have a suzay or you can try natural they said the baby can be anywhere between 8 pounds and 12 pounds that's what I was and I really wanted a natural birth I was like I just want to see what it's like blah-dee-blah so I got induced on my due date I was in labor for 18 hours and then had an emergency c-section because I wasn't dilating you know right um which was fun I was like die morphine all over the place we're like sign this I was good and then had a cesarean Robyn was born and he was ten pound eleven and a half so oh my gosh a toddler yeah he didn't fit in the clothes that we bought oh we have again three to six mil my gosh of course so and I kind of I'm really squeamish I would never stand at the business end right so I was sort of had me head right next to rules you know they just kissed her on the cheek and she was obviously numb from like the neck down because they would do when this is aryan and had the sheet up there and I heard them like this Eddy here like a layer as like a suction thing and he came out we didn't know what we didn't know if he was a boy or a girl like it's a boy or like laughs in the head so he was massive he was so big we don't you don't think it was lovely it was really nice wasn't it and then I remember because obviously when you have a cesarean you get Norman which is really strange like because if we came out and I was like I can't feel my legs so you just kind of leave it and him Robyn was in these little in the little basket you were asleep there and I remember you were asleep and I was kind of just doors and and I remember staring out and being like hello and then when you when you go home this is the bit that nobody really tells you about when you're alone with that baby for the first time and it's like what the hell do I do yeah so yeah geared up to the birth than them arriving yeah those moments afterwards he like no idea yeah and then I couldn't breastfeed which was devastating in trying to do that for about how long because I was adamant to do it was night and how many women touched your boobs in that time so many see what you can get out and yeah well they they were agreed to be fair did is it called lady yes she came to the house just trying to squeeze your nipple in your baby's mouth someone else doing it I was like I'm crying Robyn's crying and then there's a shame because the see like breast is best in all right which obviously it is but what the don't see is how hard it is to do sometimes and the lady came around and there must have been at one point I was downstairs and you were upstairs with the lady with Robyn for easily an hour and 45 minutes and her a professional just literally wedging the nipple in Robyn's mouth and finally latched and she was like brilliant he's latch and then she left and then the next time you tried it would have been another hour and a half and I made an executive decision one night I said I'm gone and filling the bottle up and I filled the ball and then he was happy and he slept and he stopped crying and the lady came back weakly adentro and how are you getting on with the breastfeeding and Rosie said we've given in we've gone on bottles when our thank God I'm so glad you did which she was never gonna tell us to do she was never gonna see looking at your bowl because all breast is best which is fair enough but if someone can't do it you need to tell them that they can't do it you in a right State and I'm so helpless it's hard and then my milk came in it came in really late it took about must have been about nine days not longer for my leg Mel to come in and I think and all this sounds so silly but I didn't really understand until you've experienced your milk coming in you don't know why people keep saying my mom used to keep saying your milk o'connell going I don't know what you mean nothing's working Tian there's nothing coming out and and then it did and I was like right but then he was on the bottle by then and it was kind of like I did try again I do remember trying again I think he was like no this isn't this isn't the crack I think it's such an emotional thing isn't it so I think people don't like to lead people into making the decision because you're the one that's yeah everything that comes with it and it shouldn't your baby is fed your baby's happy you unhappy as a result solutely as soon as he had that bottle we were just like two different kids different it was like it was like he was sort of kind of the baby version of an angry person at a restaurant I'll try I would try breastfeeding again now that I feel like normal about it but I would never put myself under the pressure that I did yeah with Robin I think I'd just be a bit more like look if it works it works and if it doesn't there's another option yeah and well so did that kind of take over like that first few weeks like it's for me with buzzy I literally would take an hour and a half to feed him and it felt like he'd go away for an hour and then he'd come back and I'd fell find it quite daunting as soon as he's like people be like oh he wants his mama I'd be like yeah it kind of took the when we were trying so hard it did because I expressed so he would he was taking my express milk he would take that but then we were given him formula from a cup because we didn't want him to get to have weird and then yeah I remember just being so sad because I'd have to like to get him to try and breastfeed you just have to kind of lick around my nipple and just be like that and it was just really strange wasn't it and then once we've given the bottle like you say we could take turns yeah and it was asleep yeah it was a really big religion for me as well because he was so big my cesarean scar was like oh my gosh picking him up and everything yeah he said again again I'm not slagging off breastfeeding in any way shape or form but just said I'm so glad you've decided bottle because with the eyes ears and with the fact that you had a c-section this was never going to happen that's what you said remember yeah everyone's different than school or dads can feed from Foreman I mean I express it dads can feed expressed milk as well but yeah it was I think at it I've very much enjoyed feeding him we had a good system Chris Chris went back on to ten days after he was born I'm hiding my in the mic so you can't go no no it wasn't it do you know it wasn't planned you're two hours booked just two hours poops because we got pregnant so quick but it was it was the DVD ture right and I also had role variety performance that year as well so I'll is the reason I have to do this I mean but it was horror and I'm a crying and attack but a tactical cried all the way down the street yeah you used to come home from a gig at about 2:00 3:00 in the morning and he would do the junior night so we had quite a little nice little system and you used to sometimes we dope if you got in a bit earlier for his feet and then so I didn't have to do that one and then I'd get with him on it so it kind of that's nice it ended up working didn't it to a manager has never done so meant so much nighttime driving get in the car back home dad's having to work away and that and that emotional tug yeah it was really hard because you I remember it was the first the first one but wasn't actually to issue it was a corporate gig in Edinburgh and I got in the taxi and I was coming back that night I got in the taxi and I drove to the drove to the station and I went and did a gig in any mode there'd be two hundred rolls back from Edinburgh and I knew I was coming back that night that was one of the first nights I did the fee but just leaving I was crying and just leaving for that I was like I'm leaving them for like what's gonna happen and I've got to say like you were amazing to be fair if it was other way around if you'd left attendez well I mean the house would burn down I would be a knight I'd be the worst so you know amazing you hard really hard and my mom tells me off now still does she mentioned it the other day actually and I was that stupid silly person who doesn't stop except help or didn't stop and I wish I had honestly if I have another one I will take all the help because I was just a bit I kind of just wanted to do it myself but it was alright every so often it wasn't like you went there's some ladies who whose partners are in the army very well in that moment when you're in a room cried I had buses for weeks owed Tom just leptin this in the spare room because he was on tour do you want to get cold I'm not just being separate yeah I knew as well like the emotion the emotional because I knew how much you were missing what they're sorry about Tom not want to get a cold that's the thing as well but you gotta be careful so I remember I was in Aberdeen I was ready to do a birdie I'm not a very to her um and and I was ready I went a Pizza Express I think had some food and I thought I feel a bit a little bit strange and then Rosie formazan said air right Robin's got a sickness book I've got a sickness book it's in the post and at the end of the gig I was sick on stage I had a bucket next to us for the full gig and it was that I'd caught it from from the pervious yeah it just reminded as there but it was the phone call of he's been sick alibi and sick you're probably gonna be being sick yeah I remember goodness that was on that to [Music] fun and games but again it's you holding the fort I'll never I'll never be able to fully thank you for that because the neighbors my growing how how we weird suddenly your life rolled around I mean completely different yeah yeah our life does Robert still now revolves around and but I think this is gonna sound a bit silly but we have said this as well now before we had Robin did as well with you before we have a children you do kind of just do so when you get a bit bored I remember us being a bit bored sometimes wouldn't we and then you have a child and you're like I'm never bored ever but I kind of miss never ever have been shores and then we would fall asleep on the sofa at midnight wake up at 3 1 dirty beds go to sleep wake up at 10 or whatever go and get breakfast go back to bed he get in bed I want to go back in time grab that version of yourself and give him a slap around the face and go Duke's go out do something go on anything you're gonna have a kid soon and you're gonna be in the house all the pubs go out drink in Google for fancy meals go on holiday absolute time waster cruise do something yeah but we did work that's a speed I've got me it's a we don't have kids and I speak to them now and they're just like [Laughter] [Music] obviously do you remember sometimes we used to be like nine hours from work for us was there we'd sit in bed and I remember there was times we had breakfast lunch and then possibly tea in bed in bed sorry dinner for this weekend and I felt bad meaning amazingly letters you know thanks on your part not not surprised when out you took Robin out didn't you know I was I was in for the day and I stayed in bed and felt bad well that guilt start straightaway so what has been your biggest surprise with Robin why do you think open till recently I'm kind of listening to something really strange I'm kind of used to it now but up until recently I would have moments where I would look at him and go god I'm responsible for everything about you they're all-encompassing vastness of it it's it's so important that just this little child is your whole world and it's if you think about watching and genuine to give yourself a headache it's craziness you want them to be you want them to be great don't you well he's future everything he does everything he does in the feet and I said I worry about stuff that hasn't even happened yet we watch in a showroom remember watch and are you the one and there was a guy the best job because he gets to go in and shout at the best job in the world the girl wanted nothing to do them he was crying his eyes out he's known at 20 minutes he's crying his eyes out and I turned you didn't and I was like I'm trying to get out it's the fat not just now he's responsibility everything he does for the expose them to all of this emotion that you can't control yeah everything I've seen that see something on the news was gonna run out or when our sorry me feel like I need to apologize for everything for him I mean it's crazy bigger surprise we get surprised I think my biggest surprise is Robin himself is weirdly not how I thought he would be really better than I thought he would be ya see him zoom he's great like honestly he's got so much courage yeah we can't believe it oh he's just you're gonna cry brilliant I don't know that's my biggest surprise I think how his personality is just has formed and he's just turned into this proper cool little man and he was just this is all of this moment as well it's so funny yeah we brought them back and they're used I think you know he was having her first bath since the hospital he was downstairs you might even with your mom or with my mom someone was downstairs with them as we pointed wouldn't just leave him stuff in the fridge he's lying down obviously and I went upstairs and I was making sure she was okay in the bath and he was sitting you're getting emotion the bath your kind coming what you said there is he's a deal she went do you think oh god the emotions you being away as well like if that was me I'd have been like an emotional wreck I was my mom's great though I've got I've got a really really good family and your mum and dad as well so I was all right I was quite grounded I saw everyone during the day yeah it was just the night times that I found a bit yeah yeah yeah that's I remember going to bed at nine o'clock thinking and I think Robin was about eight we still thinking well get an early night come on son go up nine o'clock I put Gavin and Stacey on Netflix and they're like in control yeah I'm in night 11 o'clock you're not asleep yet you're still crying two o'clock in the morning why aren't you going to sleep it's just they just don't have any concept of like why I think so many people when people come over and see new mums and dads it looks like there's there everyone's got everything together and it's actually in those dark moments yeah right time everything falls apart so many people don't know yeah and I was just by myself rocking in bed good times well you feel like you can't say that because then you feel like you're you're moaning about becoming a parent and that's what you've wanted yeah of your baby yeah and then you have the really high moment of the god I love you so much when they were asleep oh god I just love you so much and then you have the horrible moment so the kind of outweigh each other I think yeah it's something as well a people sometimes people have a real if you have like a mourn about anything to do with having a kid I remember I remember I put a thing on Twitter it was you walk up one nice bottle middle and now it's like 2:00 3:00 in the morning he woke up one two crying immediate and I still had this up machine thing I made it and then I sat mumineen I went to put it involved he fell asleep and I put the whole story I was like calling a baby a day quite funny because it's just something you shouldn't say calling a dog it's just weird saying that people can't have children why not this is my I'm talking about my situation here I'm not this has got nothing to do with anything else so strange but you know it is something to celebrate and it is something to more about godith I've got a couple of two as morning about children it was every night I would ring you wouldn't last two I would say oh I don't know how many of you follow me wife and Instagram and I'll get pockets of cheer and and it's some places where I think I was in Torquay and nearly all of the crowd were like yeah and I was like this thought in the Northeast maybe this is crazy and then obviously I did the arena and we'll had to stop the recording because the chanted an aim-7 off thousand people wedding seeing what I see I mean not all of what I see it's great that's him that's how I started Instagram when I had Robin because I stupidly left work today yeah well not stupid mean Chris were like passing ships in the night because I did the afternoon shift on the radio and you were home at there was sad was important Robin to bed I think five nights let's be honest don't you see were pattern ships in the night you missed him you didn't give a I think any mother the option was there to not work and I think any mother who has that option would probably take it so I took it but then I was just bored and a bit lost and so and I just took to my phone but I only had about 500 followers when I started doing in the well I just made some stuff people you know when like the local pub and everything and then I was just kind of talking then it got more and more and more well mates of mine used to textures and go Rosy's instagrams hilarious and people used to come on our house in the Gua so if there are this then that pick something to pick something was this off your Instagram I remember thinking wow okay and then it just went up and up and up and I haven't to be fair I haven't plugged you it's not like I've going on everyone I'm just I think it's I think as well you're in a situation that all of us are in hmm and I guess where you take the situation and put it on stage you're actually in it yeah yeah in that moment yeah and I did it quite when Robin was really little I did it quite a lot more obviously with him because he was just a baby and yeah I think people just related to it yeah you know and I didn't much of it no you know so it was to kind of like the raw bits and the Instagram on it it was it was it was it was totally against what Instagram normally is but and that's what people loved about well that's the messages you got people see it in me after so much like I was tracking yeah I'm gonna do you bought me all the equipment for Christmas I said I'm gonna do a vlog I started watching I was watching them on YouTube and I was like oh no chance like just I don't know just not me at all and now in really unattainable lives of them and it just made me feel a bit adequate as a mother and I think Instagram or anything YouTube it's all about following people that make you feel good absolute they're there for a reason yeah they've got a million followers because I love that to see that but some of them will make people like you and me feel like yeah so your freshing to see someone who is like you yeah and I think that's it that's why people yeah you can relate to mine a bit I hope so I think since Christmas you've gone up like 60 I got 21st of the mine I'm gonna make a prediction August you're never on it you're not very good on it just you know what it is right when I'm I'm busy writing ashore the men are writing a stand-up show so every thought and every possible more every sentence every word that I feel could be funny goes straight into the notes on the form yeah and then straight on stage I'm not burning it I'm not gonna burn it on there it's never gonna happen so that's the difference between a stand-up the odd thing I'll put on there'll be my just creative and then and then when I'm not writing can it be asked to think of anything new you know and you just you're a machine on it it's really really impressive how much how much output you do like it comes quite naturally I don't really find it very distressed yeah I think when people were like I'm posting 8 o'clock every night I'm sucking machine that's one thing that's not having I said that that's my one rule if I'm having a bad day and I've got nothing to see I just don't want no impression I'm yeah and I love that I love that about mine I don't feel any pressure from it I kind of just do it as in when and got some lovely things out of it I know I'm doing a bit more on it and making making a bit of money out of it which is nice here in the Instagram stories repeated again and again as I first I just I first found out about you when you're both on the rain and I don't think there's many people that talk about miscarriage no there's no and you know so second pregnancy for Utah into ended in a miscarriage yeah let's talk about that time first and then talk about why you wanted to share it yeah yeah so when was it first was it was last August August last August had happened 12 weeks can we thought we were just there and there was just no baby there was a sack the sack was there yeah but I said the baby just wasn't just hadn't developed but I still was the pregnancy stats ackard remains so it's a blighted ovum like a missed miscarriage so I was going through all the same pregnancy feelings still felt pregnant but the baby had passed a few weeks earlier and yeah yeah well it was that thing we said it earlier because we felt pregnant like that for the first one and happened again for the second one and you go oh great well we're just infallible perfect baby-making machines here we go and then you go for the scan and it was there yeah it was horrible in the hospital so helpless just lying there going oh god it was a well you allows you were lying now I was standing there didn't know what to say I didn't know what to do I think we weren't gonna say anything because we were off social media and I think when you saw active on social media we were off for like a week I was getting messages and emails like through other forms of communication well are you okay yeah and what happened was so it was a blighted ovum but then I didn't I was because I was quite far on the sack I had to pass the sack right so I had to go into hospital and I had to take tablets and kind of try and get rid of that way almost Joosten Oh it was Labor horrible 20 hours still didn't pass the the sack so then I had got have surgery and that D&C I don't know the and I think when we got home we were kind of like we could just not tell anyone but you know what I personally didn't realize it that that happened yeah I thought you know people have miscarriages you hear about you go oh that's terrible so sorry you get on with your day I was in hospital in Hackney for 20 hours I'd never other than having Robin I'd never had an operation I've never been under anaesthetic and it was terrifying and it was such a horrible experience it was so sad and I just kind of thought you know what we can brush it under the carpet or we can actually use the little like the platform that we have and try and I don't know try Andrea's a little bit of an awareness about it you know we didn't want to dwell on it as such so we haven't really we haven't always talked about it we're not part of any kind of you know organisation but I'm really glad we did talk about it and I think it helped a lot it helped yeah which is nice and it helped us help us hugely yeah hugely because I think when you when you're going through it you feel like you've failed and for you you would feel like you failed you you failed crazy fair and and that's something that you shouldn't feel mmm but um there's that anger and there's all those hopes and those dreams you've already created in your brain you can't help you've picked and Robin with the other child and how oh when we go on this holiday well there'll be that age and what they're gonna be like and and all of a sudden that's taken away and it feels such a lonely time it's devastating I've never felt so sad in my whole entire life ever it was yeah it was just until it's happened to you you don't really give it any respect it's not the word what you don't see it is this huge thing until it suddenly someone I'll tell you and you kind of don't you know what I see okay and you just move on with it but God when it happens it's earth-shattering it's crazy because there's everything that you are thinking about everything you're moving towards and what was amazing was once we sort of went public about it and tall people I was getting texts from people had worked with once years ago blocks going me it I just saw on whatever I've just seen the post I've got inundated obviously well-wishes who wouldn't know but people who are knew they were going all up we had two miscarriages and I'm like what we're just we are not the kind people yes there are people who don't want to see it the people who want to keep it quiet and I totally get that and I'm not seeing you have to tell people if you want to keep it quiet quiet deal with that however you want but we aren't the people who keep stuff quiet me and Rosie you've heard what podcast we do know say you're giving people who can't talk about it or don't feel like they're in a position to talk about it comfort just by by you sharing and then just reading other people's comments yeah so you don't actually have to be an active person said that on my feed I was like if you if you if it's happened to you and you just want to read about other people's stories just have a read and it does actually make you feel a little bit better and then and then weirdly it kind of put us in a different so I kind of like because then you hear so many awful stories of couples who've you know five six seven miscarriages and you just think gosh it's so hard and but you know we we've actually I mean I don't think you get over it but we're getting there aren't we we're all right it robbing blessum was just the shine and light through the whole experience of him he was great even then he was gonna stay out the night that I got back from hospital he was gonna stay at your mom and dad's and I was like no I need to see him because I'm just in this pit of misery and he walked through the door didn't he five o'clock and he was like hello and we were like it was like guess what no more band guys it was almost like I don't know it was almost like he was a like a little cheerleader brought in just lift the mood it was like hey Thomas lead iddyn no but it was just like imagine someone new but wasn't letting on that the new and I were just trying to take your mind off something it was essentially like that it was like he knew but he wasn't getting it on and he was trying to just get way through it and it was really did see if I hadn't had him it would have been it would be an even worse which is hard to imagine what would have been bad does it scare you about thinking like about future babies yes does it terrified I was terrified anyway yeah I do I think it will obviously when we do want to have another baby it will be they're thinking or but you can't I suppose you can't really think like that you know me man I'm already worried about we haven't no we we just I think when the time's right the time is introduced yet yeah weirdly it's don't get me wrong the baby would have been here now and it would have been wonderful and that's another thing there isn't it you kind of you know roughly when your due date is you kind of get to that and you're like you know it's another moment I was you know that was another idea wasn't it but no we just kind of we've got a lot of things going on for the first her cuz I was a stay-at-home mom with Robyn which was really intense I'm having a bit of time to kind of do a few things I want to do but I don't think you'll be too much longer we'll see I didn't get this email just read on this call it will have been discussing it yeah we definitely we'd love more children yeah I was an only child and it was bad just that I feel like I missed out on the whole sibling thing so I want to live it sort of vicariously through him I want to see what he's like with siblings and he's got so much love to give yeah you'd be fantastic now and you're fine with buzz I look back at the things I did with him I'm just saying that it's amazing that we had that time just us guys I took buzz to Australia and you guys took me to Australia yeah he did his first steps in Australia first steps upside down legend [Laughter] both ways because there's you know it's lovely having a short age because they're going to be best boats and there was like two novios between each arraign my brother and sister but then we've got a friend we've got Michael and Jordan you talking about no no Michael and Rachel they've got who's nine right just had Finn well the had Finn to use to so he's 11 now so they've got a big age gap yeah and it's great really yeah like Rachel's got like a helper you know practically a live-in babysitter really you come round our house Lucy is just in another room with all the kids gets a tempo naught and the friend Michael and his brother Jordan they've got a big age gap and they're now that when they were younger that weren't you know when I'm not wrong with Michael in the street when I was younger Jordan was never there that was quite big with different friends it was about six years I think they are yeah maybe yeah maybe six or seven years yeah but em but now I see Jordan wall I see Michael yeah really lovely and then with that grandeur and that on there it's really we honor God keep nice family were at a party the other day and the grandeur came in and that both the lads Michael and George op Street we are going to get in the grandeur a seat in all this and then go to the source of group with up on a Friday which is probably northern but what I'm saying is yeah I suppose the big age gap thing is just something [Laughter] you can't live your life thinking when are we having another baby we'll go again cuz then you just can't and especially with our with our lives you know we will get pregnant again and you'll be back onto it I can just say it fingers crossed this time boy cheers right I've got you up in the taxi please do the crying I was crying yeah I had emotional I felt bottom I realize five-star hotel I didn't get to stay in the hotel how to compensate at home is it hard when Chris goes away and he comes back do you find it's more difficult with him bear oh my god yes yeah okay so used to kind of just doing it alone me and me and Robin have got our little routine we're sorted we know exactly what we're doing Kris comes home carnage carnage isn't so if I look like I don't I'm not listening it's because I've heard this speech just get in the way and you ruin it get in the way because I had my like week mapped out because of it because I had to I was like why I need to take them they on that day and then go there and we'll go and say them and then you come home and it's like what we're doing we've got we've got we've got appointments actually Chris so you're gonna have to just read is the main one that you used to kick off about was if I had a week of gigs where I was at home but I was at home on the night but I was away on it's just and imagine I'm doing gigs at two three hours away and I'm saying me to a manager look we'll drive home each night and I'll get like the morning to see Rosie and Robin but then that means you are you were having to hang around in the house weren't you until our that's like women the whole day is ruined because the Robin is he has been since since he's been able to kind of walk and move around if you keep me in the house for too long you'll hit a magic moment where he's just unbearable yeah and the amount of times you would go what are your back you did everything normally open one out and then whatever worked out that you need to get open out until before I walk up and then you come back and then everything was okay come back in for lunch and I'll be there it's like you've just got to run him around sometimes just taking the local park and go to me boys are like that yeah just gotta be naked that's the only way he sleeps as well isn't it just got tire him out sometimes we get jealous don't when people come home with little girls I know I know not every girl is like yeah every almost they read they color in they don't hear a peep from them yes it's the one to drink or something when Robins boyfriend's around our house it's like there's a little stag do [Laughter] and the little girls come over going I mean I think that's part we're allowed family yeah we literally talk for a living I've got up sit not upset but like just I kind of talk my mom once I thought you had a glue yeah you know my little brother did as well yes well I was thinking my MA was gone have you been in your house nothing no when you mention Easter Egg you can walk into the shed and lock the door and whisper Easter egg and he could be at the back of the house wash your hands oh nothing I've realized there was nothing wrong with these years when now and then if I want to really get his attention I'll be going Robin he's totally ignore Nia then genuine if you call he turns around whispering he goes why go you are just ignorant about with a loud a child and he feel judged yes all the time he's really really full-on and yeah you can always hear him I go pick him up from nursery in the morning and I'm standing in the queue with all the other moms and dads and whoever and all you can hear is Robin shouting yeah just all about all the other kids and I'm like but not horrible not obnoxious just loud and he's just in your face and runs everywhere you can't walk it just runs everywhere and you got you three boys so they'd now put the court over the heads like superheroes is that the bottoms of the Zips eye and then loops it like that man crazy yeah he's always just trying to tell you a story um but because he's so loud and because he's so tall and big in public everyone is normally just like what is wrong with your five-year-old like why is a five-year-old so weird he's three but one thing I do love about Robin is that he's really he's really cool around of their adult he's not shy right not I'm not in it not in a rude way doesn't just go up and whatever but he's not shy as he saw we because obviously where we live it's like a home town people have always known ooh Chris's and now me a little bit more since Robins been born he's always had to kind of see hello to people yeah does that make sense or we'd of course he hello because people just stop and chat to us he just thinks when are you gonna find that weird when's he gonna start going why are these people getting pictures I think he's gonna lose now gonna find it mirrors have you said anything about that or not buzz-buzz asks if we can watch certain people on TV I mean like they're not on TV why not oh so he'll see us on TV he'll see you die it was the way really close friends on TV but we we were on this arikok show the other week we had it on in the morning imagine seeing your mom and dad on tell you when you're a kid I think because they've all done it since such a young age I think if they were like five years older they'd be like Oh without strange yeah yeah she's got no idea it's quite nice really isn't it it's you know definitely I love that bus just randomly requests people I'm telling he's also decided that he wants to be on The Voice kids but he wants us to take him right I mean come [Laughter] [Laughter] [Music] what is the biggest challenge cuz you - you like fly around with Rodman as well like new travel yeah yeah we're trying don't shy away from going on holidays and stuff no no um biggest challenge biggest challenge of Parana god we've got he's a good sleeper yeah he's a good sleeper good eats everything so I'd say probably more so just trying like I think the challenges we find because he's good at traveling and we're not scared of it is I just I want him to have lovely manners and I want him to be really nice and so I find that I put so much pressure on myself to get what what do you say what do you say be nice say goodbye say thank you say thank you and I know I do it and I can feel I do it but I think you've got to to just get it into them you know because they're like little little robots and you've just got a program it into them every day and repeat yourself constantly so I find that quite challenging just to get him to be just just a nice little human it's for having time away from them as well we always have like obviously were here doing this today and what you know great support network my mom and dad will have him and he just runs just absolutely rules the roost at their house but you know the great and my man and your mom's brilliant with him and it's that thing of I feel really guilty we both feel really guilty I know it's gonna sound we are coming for me because I've been away a lot but when I'm always with you [Music] it's fine with you I keep seeing Rosie as I'm pointing at you I've just left me child with you [Music] so when leaving him with people again and again I've gotta leave my mom at night and then tomorrow night I've got a gig and I've gotta leave them there again and I feel it really it really gets gets on top of us like when he's when he has to be with other people too much even though it's fine and I really miss him as well but when he's with you Rosie I don't as much because it's kind of like he's with me when he's with you because it's but I think it's because we grew up with parents who were they all the time oh yeah my mum and dad being away was in don't know it wasn't a thing back then wasn't he didn't didn't go for a night away you know and but I don't think he's gonna know this is what I tell myself he's only gonna know that life only ever with grandparents he's never with a stranger or you know that time where he's creating those bonds yeah and you know he had me solidly yeah for like most he's had me for changed yes since I've got back since I've sort of since the beginning of the year I finished me last to November last year and I've been part from now I'm doing a little bit more but I haven't really been away solidly since then and all I've been with your little night and I'm like forgotten yeah only for like food and you know stuff like that because I think like for you coming into your zone yeah it must have been quite alien but for Rosie to suddenly now it's there's a shunned yeah I'm sure this is the thing yeah where is where is the gratitude you know what I mean love give him everything everything yeah it's it is nice though yeah I was probably you know obviously it's very sweet give me credit don't know sometimes when he's cry and he's seen he wants me to take on my bed on don't I try and get you sometimes and it's really sweet but I'm like man my bedtime song called mommy goes no daddy fair enough like I just don't know because I miss so much of you not Tintin bird yeah you know classbook all bad we little story how is your relationship with your body changed this is becoming a mum cuz you said you five stone on while pregnant yeah and yeah you know I think from my upbringing my relation but my body was quite a strange one because I always knew my mom's on a diet only me impaired the word fat was thrown around too much like always looking yourself gonna what I meant tonight not like and then you money changes and then whatever you left with after baby and it's a funny one for me who's grown up I used to swim when I was younger so I was always really little and then I was a saying I'd answer so I used I didn't ever have to exercise because I did it it's my job and so it wasn't until I had Robin that I really put I was always kind of like a size eight to ten right not matter I wasn't I always kind of thought I could be thinner you know even though I looked at pictures and feel physically sick how lush I was no and then when I put on five stone and I lost four stone of I mean gosh probably put it back on now but i weirdly definitely haven't no no sighs - I just I lost the five stone though didn't I then I think I've put about with store I don't know I haven't been on the scales weirdly I'm possibly the most confident I've ever been in my whole life now because I think even though your body changes massively when you have a baby having a child being a mother gives you a confidence never in my whole life yeah changes my feet my feet my foot on these [Laughter] with you completing three sentences okay so I'll start a sentence and you finish it right so if you like being a mom means everything and more whatever she said [Laughter] providing protect and less selfish a lot less selfish more selfish to address the balance I know who I am now weirdly from after having a kid I've I've always wondered what kind of person I am Who I am who I want to be and I feel more me than ever and I think it's off having Robin your answer the Lord's better than mine ask him the answers are better and my feet are soil moist they actually are and finally I'm happy when I'm happy when she's gonna slug is up when I'm with my family you're gonna slug is off no why would rather you would be with our family then another family I would say the same that's I'm happy when Kris is you can't be you come here alone I'm happy when we are all together as a family guys thank you so much for coming on it's been 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Published: Tue May 21 2019
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