Charging FAIL & GREAT Surprise When We Compare The Model Y & Mach-E On The World’s Toughest EV Test!

[Music] monster puppy by the way tommy blasey wants to get out of the car he's had enough we've been in here for almost two hours he wants to get to his mountain home so let's let's get him down oh yeah it's going to be a bit of a nail biter wait will the speed limit three two one go every single time i've driven past this little parking lot there's been a car stuck and today is no exception all right this is a charging race now connecting to vehicle come on car i'm not sure we're charging that whole time that you were talking i've had my hand off the wheel tommy i'm sitting right at 39. ladies and gentlemen welcome to the loveland trials the world's toughest electric car test and today we have the world's most popular electric car the model y and of course we've got the challenger tommy what are you driving that's right the 2021 ford mustang mock e and we're going to take these cars up and over not one but two mountain passes for about 150 miles to find out which of these two is more efficient so i've got the model y performance tommy that means that on my little display i've got 294 miles of range how about you well i've got the mustang maki standard range all-wheel drive which means in theory i should have a range of 211 miles according to the epa but what are you getting for real well the screen is predicting 158 miles and i've got 150 miles to drive to our first charger yeah and that's because it is cold here in colorado so let's see how these two cars do on the world's toughest electric car test [Music] [Applause] now both of these cars are not exactly what they seem because this is a mustang in mainly name only because as far as i know there's never really been a mustang with five doors and the model y well the model y is basically a tall model three with the same thing oh it does stick a little bit a giant hatchback so in terms of size and overall dimensions they are basically very similar except for one tommy how much do they weigh if you look at the stickers here on the door the mustang is heavier than the tesla coming in at 4 600 pounds and that is a huge amount of weight for a relatively small car it's about 100 or so pounds heavier than the model y and to make this more fair we're actually adding ballast to the model y because well it's got a lot more range monster puppy up in blaze no to be honest blaze has to go spend some time with his mom up in the mountains so we're going to drop them off on the way yep it happens to be a bridal no no no stains it happens to be on our way so the bernese mountain dog is going to spend the holidays in the mountains aren't you blazey watch out lazy watch out there he goes there he goes all right well let's hit the road tommy [Music] hey tommy i think blazey's excited to get to the mountains he is a mountain dog after all i think you're right dad but we've got a long journey to get up there now we have uh modified the leveling trials to make it a lot harder by adding well basically another mountain pass so instead of just going up and down the loveland path uh the back side of loveland and then into keystone into slipperthorn and then up what we like to call the ike gauntlet that's right one of the steepest highways in the u.s that is just relentless and then back down the mountain and we're going to stop in golden colorado and we're going to do a charging test you're going to plug into a supercharger by tesla and i'm going to plug into an electrify america and see uh what happens with the charging yeah because we also want to see not just how much energy they use but how quickly and effectively you can you know get the power back in do you think you can actually make it to that supercharger that's 150 miles yeah well the ford is reading 150 some miles of range right now but the computer works very differently than the tesla system what tesla says is basically this is the epa range you're at this percentage here you go this is how far you can drive what four does is it looks at the temperature in your driving style and the climate control setting and says well realistically you can only go this far so this range meter better be darn accurate or i'm in a lot of trouble [Music] [Applause] [Music] this is our long-term tesla model y that we bought for an msrp of 63 000 now in a perfect world we would compare this vehicle to the mustang mach egt which isn't available so then we thought let's compare it to the mustang maki extended range but ford decided to provide us with the standard range all-wheel drive so not exactly apples to oranges but it will be cool to see comparison wise how many miles of range we use and how much battery we use on the world's toughest electric car test tommy how about cost how much do they cost well the maki has an msrp of about fifty thousand dollars but it does apply for the 7 500 federal tax credit so the mustang in theory is much more affordable [Music] so one of the coolest screens in the new machi is the trip computer take a look at this on the trip computer it shows you where your energy went it shows you how you're driving in terms of acceleration deceleration and your speed it shows you you know what percentage of power or energy goes where so for example 13 has gone into climate uh 75 has gone into driving six percent has gone into accessories and six percent has gone into exterior temperature which i believe means trying to keep the battery at the right temperature because it's cold outside and we've been averaging 2.4 miles per kilowatt hour which is pretty rough but we are going uh uphill constantly [Music] all right tommy we've gotten on to i-70 and we are now in some pretty heavy traffic and this is where uh tesla's autopilot works really well and i've got it engaged it's really simple i just pull down on the stock twice and then the car will not only steer itself but it will also use proximity distance control to keep me at the same distance in front of this uh car in front of me well the ford has a very similar system so i'm going to engage the adaptive cruise control i'm going to set it at 60 and it will maintain the same distance between me and the car in front of me and i can adjust that distance using this button here and then i'm going to engage lane centering all right lane keeping system on and now what it'll do is it will keep me centered in my lane or at least it should and as long as i have a hand on the wheel it should keep me pointing in the same direction but it's having a hard time finding the lane here now on both of these systems you have to have a hand on the wheel you have to be alert and ready to take over at any time but same thing i've got my hand rested here in the steering wheel and i'm just cruising along in the forward sorry about the panting that's uh blazey he likes to have uh a full commanding view of the uh road so what happens uh what happens when you take your hand off the wheel well let's see okay so i've got hand on the wheel i've got a little bubble system around me that kind of shows me uh what's around me so hand off the wheel it's still good i'm just hovering over the wheel to take control at any time monitoring the system hand is still off the wheel it is now driving itself oh there it goes it says keep hands on steering wheel all right so uh i got a little bit of time out of it but it's just like the tesla right that i mean even the full self-driving system on the tesla is still a hands-on system at least it is for the time being but that's changing quickly and ford is coming out with their own um hands-off system as well that whole time that you were talking i've had my hand off the wheel tommy i still have my hand off the wheel and the thing's not yelling at me you're a road hazard dad no it's just uh i'm amazed oh there it goes now he just told me to apply uh pressure to the steering wheel all right now here's a bigger question how much range you got left i'm doing pretty good actually i'm i'm pretty happy so i'm at 77 battery remaining and i have according to the car 114 miles left but we've gone 40 miles and i've used 23 battery in 40 miles so i'm feeling pretty confident the little range meter is really stressing you out for no reason i think but we'll uh we'll see what happens as we continue down the highway yeah you know electric cars are all about range range range right like real estate's about location location location and you know my car says 224 projected range 155 it's just a lot more a lot more you know comfort in this vehicle [Music] here's where things get super super interesting if you're an ev nerd like myself this maki has a gross battery capacity of 75 kilowatt hours and if we step over to the tesla tesla doesn't tell us the exact number but from what i've read online is also about 75 kilowatt hours the difference in range comes down to how the vehicle uses that energy how it is pushed through the motors how the manufacturer rates the car the cycle and how much of the battery okay okay that's very confusing what is the epa mpg on the maki versus the tesla well the mpge on the ford is about 93 combined and the mpge here on the tesla is 111. [Music] oh yeah it's gonna be a bit of a nail biter now this is the scary part the forts as i have 80 miles of range left yeah the tesla says 172. projected 90 miles range but it doesn't know that i'm gonna be going back down the mountain yes same thing with the ford it doesn't understand that we are gonna go flying down i-70 but before we go down we have to go up right i mean we've made this test a lot harder because now we're not gonna go down the same way we came back up we're gonna go down the back side of loveland and then we're gonna have to go back up uh what we're calling the ike gauntlet of course which is you know the the eight miles of steep upgrade from silver thorn to the top of the eisenhower tunnel now on these back twisty roads dad i'd say the mustang is good not great to drive it feels heavy the steering is a little bit slow i mean it's very confident but it doesn't inspire me to really fling it around yeah the tesla actually feels smaller than it is it's really weird you know some cars feel bigger and heavier and some cars feel smaller and this one actually feels smaller part of that could be because both of these cars weigh as much as a ford explorer but the tesla is such quick steering and such aggressive brakes even the non-performance model it's just more fun to drive yeah and the other of course issue is i've got uh snow rated tires which helps a lot going up loveland pass in the snow [Music] so you can see to the top of loveland pass here we have gone almost 70 miles i've been driving very efficiently according to the ford and we are at 50 state of charge all right well we made it to the top of loveland pass it's spectacular up here and normally this is where we would turn around but because we're going to make this much harder we're going to go down the mountain on the other side and then back up i-70 right tommy and the car right now the mustang yeah 50 state of charge okay which is pretty good yeah but 70 miles of range let me compare that to the tesla sure the tesla's sitting at 52 percent once again we started at about 95 state of charge so we used ooh what's that the tesla's used 43 of its battery the ford has used 50 of its battery it's time to keep on going all right well uh what happens i mean once you get to the top of eisenhower tunnel it's all down right so basically you get to make it to the top of the eisenhower yep all right well let's keep going this is what makes it so interesting [Music] uh by the way tommy blasey wants to get out of the car he's had enough we've been in here for almost two hours he wants to get to his mountain home so let's let's get him down all right let's get him out of the car every single time i've driven past this little parking lot there's been a car stuck and today is no exception [Music] check it out it was about eight miles down the backside of loveland pass our kilowatt hour our miles per kilowatt hour have increased dramatically and now we have 53 battery remaining so we regen three percent back into the battery all right this is a little detour here to drop off blaze and one thing that's kind of funny i noticed on the snow when you lift off the throttle the regenerative braking is sometimes so firm it activates the abs and it has to uh release the regen brakes that's pretty funny yay all right go pee go pee go pee blaze go pee go pee come on go peep [Music] all right tommy here we go up the ice gauntlet basically we're going to do the steepest stretch of i-70 from silverthorne to the top of the eisenhower tunnel this is where we take our trucks and do all of our towing uh and luckily with electric cars the fact that we're going from like 9000 feet to 12 000 feet almost 12 000 doesn't really matter does it well i mean it matters a lot in terms of battery capacity but no in terms of power or uh horsepower lost at l2 certainly that does not play a factor hey you want to try doing a little impromptu kind of acceleration once we get on the highway next to me all right all right all right we're way below the speed limit three two one go bye bye the ford mustang machi standard range all-wheel drive goes like stink from zero to about 30 miles per hour and then it really drops off after about 30. it's still pretty quick at highway speeds but it is no model y it's certainly i don't even think it's as quick as a standard model y just seated the pants experience [Music] you know what the best part of the maki is the name it's a good name very good name but the little instrument screen in front of the steering wheel i love being able to just glance down to see my speed without having to turn my head right to look at the screen yeah i agree you know we had the model x and it had that screen in front of me and i really missed that i'm not sure that uh you know not having a screen in front of you is such a great thing [Music] so basically i used over 10 battery to climb up that hill um eight miles right it's seven or eight miles of ten percent that's a big consumption rate all right well let's head back down let's see how uh how these vehicles do re-jetting power how's it 45 [Music] all right tommy uh how many miles of range did you have left now that we're heading to the uh chargers well the car is saying 44 miles and it says i have 30 percent state of charge how about you dad 117 40 battery left very interesting we will do a little tally to see how much we use when we stop with the chargers because i'll be curious to see what the difference is uh but this is a very unusual area dad because both the electrified america and the supercharger are right next to each other all right well why don't we do a little charging race oh that's a good idea okay so we will plug in uh we'll set a timer for what you know i think 15 minutes is perfect you know that's still like uh 15 times longer than most people would spend at the gas station [Music] all right tommy so how many miles did we go in both cars well we drove both cars the same exact distance 143 miles so what'd you figure out this is where things get really interesting so if we look at the gauges in terms of miles right the tesla used 172 miles of range and the ford used 123 but that does not tell the full story no that's confusing yeah it's very confusing because the gauges read totally different they measure totally different so let's go off of the amount of charge we used over that 143 miles okay the tesla used 56 of its battery pack okay and the machi used 70 of its battery pack and they both have about a 75 kilowatt hour yeah but keep in mind that four lets you use less of that battery pack as far as we know uh let's do our little race huh let's see who can charge more in the next uh 15 minutes so you got the stopwatch going okay i see you've got quite the uh quite the busy charger there but we'll see what happens so i'm going to go into my stopwatch i'm going to start set a timer okay here we go for 15 minutes all right 15 minutes uh why don't you stay with tommy because for me it's just gonna be pulling in and plugging and you're gonna be a little bit more complicated that's what you think three two one go all right this is a charging race now let's see which one of us can get more power there's a lot of tesla's charging and that's not a good thing because uh tesla's share chargers and so you get less juice if you're hooked up next to another one but i think i got lucky after that there is a charger that is not being shared i'm gonna pull up here to the station this is an electrify america station it's rated at 350 kilowatts which is super super fast man i did a bad job parking this is not going well charger knows exactly what car i'm using and it should be seamless i don't have to swipe anything or put any credit cards in so let's see here so with plug and charge here at the electrify america it should be super simple step one pop the little cover step two unleash the ccs plug step three grab the electrify station plug in step four plug it in and now these charge it should charge right there and the way it works is well actually it's even easier than that you just bring it over here hit the bring it over hit the little button is that cool it knows it opens plug it in that's it connecting to vehicle come on car i'm not sure we're charging we'll be charging now all right super charging there we go uh and this is the important number 60 kilowatts which is pretty low actually charging station fault okay so apparently this charging station has some issues let's go try another one giving me uh 300 miles an hour plus two miles already uh charging at 75 kilowatts this is a little disappointing here we go uh ccs oh this is up to 150 kilowatts this one is slower bummer well let's see if this one works the vehicle okay i think that means well no let me make sure i'm not sharing a charge with one of the other cars here all right well bummer it looks like this station um has a bad ship reader so on to the next one i don't think i'm true i don't think so yeah i don't think i'm uh sharing any chargers there we go third time's a charm oh man here comes my dad please remove card oh here we go here we go yes we're charging finally we are charging that oh look at us go we're already up to 31 so we are pulling right now 39 kilowatts 40. it's supposed to do up to 150. well that's supposed to do up to 250 if you got the right one both are 59. 59 i'm doing 39. it's going slower all right well we'll see who gets more charging well i'm obviously gonna get more charge i mean i'm twice your speed it's gonna it's gonna pick up we're gonna see a boost you'll see you'll see okay tommy eight seven six five four three two one stop charging dude i'm stopping stop charging i just stopped no i'm still going where are you going stop look at this no look at this it's exciting why i stopped look at the huge jump oh no we're back down to 45. it went all the way up to 46 kilowatts that's pretty bad we'll stop it all right all right i know i know i'm stop it when you stop cam stopped okay i'm stopped here all right how much did you charge how much did they charge you two dollars and 25 cents uh 11 minute oh that's the grace period eight minutes charging yeah five kilowatt hours and i have so in 2.25 cents i have gained let's see how much on the car survey says 38 so i gained eight percent in eight minutes that is not good 57 okay so 57 so you went up by 18 kilowatt hours but i got billed four dollars and five cents i spent twice as much yeah but i only i only went up five kilowatt hours yeah that's my that makes sense [Music] oh my that was a long day tommy how many miles we drive all together you know yeah it was somewhere around 180. yeah it's a long day but it was a lot of traffic and a lot of snow and a lot of slow going so uh you know let's get together in the conference room and kind of go over the uh positives and negatives of both cars before we uh wrap this up all right tommy i want to make this a little bit more analytical okay all right so we're going to assign winners to all these different categories and see which of the two vehicles is better okay all right let's start with style time you like the maki or the model y better oh definitely the ford i think the tesla is a remarkably ugly vehicle all right so uh tommy gives that one i like the model y better so we're tied performance i think that's easy well i mean we haven't tried the gt but at least in terms of long range model y to the equivalent forward i think model y has the edge okay how about ride oh definitely the uh the the forward okay that's two both of us i think okay you agree yeah uh utility i think they're one each they're both yeah they're both about the same right sure we'll give one each uh economy the model y is better at mpge okay i'll agree with you on that yeah how about value oh value is four for sure yeah especially with the tax credit okay all right i agree okay so let's count them up one two three four five six yeah on the test we have one two three four five six so tommy this is what i was expecting to happen we've got a tie but i've got a tie breaker and that to me is the charging infrastructure and it doesn't matter if it's ford or hyundai or gm if you're really serious about selling electric cars i think as an automaker you have to build out that entire charging structure like tesla did because obviously well we've shown that electrify america or the other networks aren't making it and aren't working you're kind of starting out with one foot in the grave when you don't have your own charging network the machi is a good car it's quiet i think the range is plenty for real-world driving but just isn't as fun to drive as pretty much any tesla even the base models all right well there you have it guys as always this is roman and tommy check out tfl car and tltruck.com for what then for more news views and of course honest and independent reviews all right see you guys next time ciao

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Length: 25min 37sec (1537 seconds)

Published: Wed Jan 06 2021