Celia's HOARD of Shoplifted Items and ILLEGAL Dogs (S1, E16) | Hoarders Overload | Full Episode

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Rene: Her house is a hoarder's nightmare. And she's got an illegal hoard of dogs. Oh, my God. I gave the dog Prozac! [ Women screaming ] Mice are everywhere. [ All screaming ] -Damn. -This is cockroach infested! I don't want anybody taking my stuff. -I need you to just -- -No. No. She's an ungrateful bitch. Lazy pig bitch. [ Sobbing ] Nathan: [ Sobbing ] I just don't know who I am, and that's probably why I have all this [bleep] in here. They're raccoon penis bones. Do you mind me asking why penis bones? I can't heal if I can't know that I'm okay being who I am. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ Okay. My name's Celia, and I'm retired registered nurse. We've got to get your t-shirt on. Do you remember that thing on TV about Hurricane Katrina, where everything was like "whoosh"? When you walk into my house, it looks like Hurricane Katrina came through. ♪♪ I'm Rene, and I'm a friend of Celia's. Her house is a hoarder's nightmare. It's just piles and piles and piles of piles. ♪♪ And on top of that, she's got an illegal hoard of dogs. Ziggy, where's Mimi? Aww, there's Mimi. Community dish, everybody. My dogs are everything to me. Okay. They're my family. It's almost like having little humans. Find you a bigger dress. I love to dress the dogs up. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You know, take them out shopping. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ♪♪ Let's go shop until we drop. Come on. I feel like the Mexican-American Lady Diana. I guess we could use a vacuum cleaner, but after they take everything out, there'll be nothing to vacuum, I'm Lucy, and I'm Celia's younger sister. When I walked inside the house, I noticed immediately on the floor there was dog poop everywhere. I think she had like 15 dogs. But what I was alarmed at is that most of the dogs are in cages. [ Dog barks ] It's very heartbreaking. I'm Annette, and I'm Celia's youngest sister. It's morally wrong to have those many animals. Come on. It's illegal, yet she does it, because that's what Celia wants to do. Rene: Celia is very narcissistic. She feels that she knows everything, and she's smarter than everyone. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ♪♪ Celia: It's kind of silly, what happened. [ Dog barking ] There was a complaint of barking dogs, and I was told that if I have more than three dogs that they would come and, um, confiscate all of them and charge me a big fine and put me in jail. And I couldn't believe it. So I needed to hide the dogs out. She'll call up girlfriends and say, "Oh, someone's coming, and I need to hide dogs". She tries to get my mother to hide dogs, and then she'll call my sister, she'll call her friends, and she tries to hide dogs at people's houses. Celia: And when the animal control came, they said, "We're not stupid. We know you're hiding your dogs. Will you tell us where they're hidden?" And I said, "Are you crazy?" [ Laughs ] Annette: At some point, someone's going to intervene and take those animals away from her, 'cause it's just inhumane to have all those. You can't take care of those many animals. Celia: When the SPCA came, I thought of the Holocaust when the people were hiding from the Nazis. That's unbelievable that she would compare herself to a Holocaust survivor. Sit there. She's just mentally ill. ♪♪ Celia: [ Crying ] My dogs fill the need of having children. And I know I'll never take my dogs to soccer or ballet classes. I don't care. They're the only family I have. ♪♪ My husband was really controlling. When I got married, I had planned to have maybe five kids. And on my wedding night, I got pregnant, and he said, "We're never going to have kids. You can't have this baby." Two weeks later, I was scheduled for an abortion. [ Voice breaking ] I felt like I killed the most important part of me. Celia's ex-husband was nasty. He was a control freak. If she was mentally ill to begin with, that -- I'm sure that tipped her over. Good girl! He kept her down in his control. And when he was away, she just went wild. After my divorce, I started doing things that I would never have done before. I've gone through $100,000 of my IRA, buying stuff off of television. It was just like a compulsion. I would see jewelry, and I would say, "Oh, got have that. Oh, got to have those earrings." I love shopping for dog t-shirts, dog dresses, dog collars. You just get high. It feels good. It's a temporary fix. It fills in that empty spot. And then about 20 minutes later, the high's gone. And then I started shoplifting. Stealing was more of a frightening high. You know, it was more like [gasps] You know, it took your breath away. Celia would steal anything. Probably 40% of the things in her house are stolen. I would describe her as a hoarder bandit. I'm Yolanda, and Celia's my older sister. ♪♪ It's, um -- It's heartbreaking. She's been arrested. She's been convicted. She's been in jail because of shoplifting. ♪♪ [ Crying ] To think that my sister is -- is doing this stuff, at first, I told Celia that, "If you needed money, why didn't you come to me?" And then I realized it's not about the money. Mmm. There's something wrong there. Is that good? There's something really wrong. ♪♪ I'm Nathan. I'm 34 years old, and I'm a scavenger. ♪♪ I get a rush off finding things. Ooh, green glass. Jokingly, I say I have ADOS, "Attention Deficit, Ooh, Shiny." Sweet. I'll take it. I'm Kathy, Nathan's mother. Just something about the shiny things he likes -- shiny rocks, bottle caps, anything shiny. Mm, not under there. I've actually, like, lost track of all the stuff that I have. It's always like Christmas when you open a box. I'm like, "I forgot I had that." So many things. I mean, just so many things. ♪♪ Nathan: If I listed all the collections that I have, we'd be here for a while. I have a lot of Hot Wheels. I love glass. I have a lot of puppets. I've always loved rocks. Troll dolls. I have raccoon penises, bo-- penis<i> bones,</i> penis<i> bones.</i> I love everything. I don't know why I do what I do. I am Ronald, and Nathan is my son. Nathan definitely looking for a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. ♪♪ Nathan: My partner's been saying for the past two years, "If you don't get this place cleaned up, I'm out of here." But last night, he's done with me. Until I get the stuff out, I don't think that we could move forward with our relationship. ♪♪ I am Jason. I am Nathan's older brother. The condition of his house has affected our relationship to the point where I have never been inside Nathan's house. ♪♪ [ Voice breaking ] This is just a lot. This is -- Not just stuff. It's not just a lot of stuff. It's a lot. ♪♪ I take Pookie everywhere with me. Um, I will take him on rides in my truck, down to the creek. I take Pookie looking for lucky rabbit's feet. ♪♪ Kathy: Nathan was 5 or 6 when we divorced. It - It was very hard. It was very difficult. ♪♪ Nathan: I started scavenging to deal with tension at home. I filled... ...the void in my life with stuff. ♪♪ ♪♪ I loved everyone there, and they turned their back on me. ♪♪ I feel like they think that I hate them or something. I don't hate them. I just don't know who I am. ♪♪ ♪♪ Rene: You can call Celia a criminal hoarder because she hoards the things that she steals, and on top of that, she's got an illegal hoard of dogs. Sidney, come on! Annette: She has been arrested for shoplifting several times. Come on, kids. Come on. And I asked her, I said, "Well, how does this make you feel?" I mean, who wants to be in jail? And she said, "Oh, it's like vacation. It was like I was on Club Med". I said, "Are you kidding me?" It was a woman's jail, and I enjoyed it. I felt like I was going away to camp. I didn't have to worry about anything. Oh, yeah. Oh. Everything was taken care of. Annette: I just think she enjoys the drama. If there's chaos, negativity, drama, arguing, crying, she's happy. ♪♪ Lucy: It's affected the whole family, because no one's been allowed to go over there. She hasn't been able to, um, have anything social. Yolanda: The last time I was in her house was probably about 20 years ago, and she had asked me if I would come and help her clean. And I said, "Okay, I will," and I spent the whole day cleaning off just one couch. And I came back the next day, and everything I did was undone. And I looked at her, and I said, "I'm done. I-I can't help you." And I left. ♪♪ Celia: Mimi? Mimi, aww. Annette: If she doesn't clean up that house, she is going to lose everything because she can't sell it. Come on. [ Whistles ] Come on. Let's go in the back. She can't get a roommate. She can't pay the rent. Come on! She'll probably be homeless. Go! Come on. She'll be with a shopping cart with all her dogs. Go! Go! ♪♪ Yolanda: It's been about 20 years since I've last been in here, so... Oh, wow. I'm Dr. Robin Zasio. I'm a licensed clinical psychologist, and I specialize in hoarding disorder and OCD behaviors. [ Knock on door ] -Hi, I'm Dr. Zasio. -Hi. -Hi, Dr. Zasio. -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, too. -Thank you for having us. -Oh, thank you for coming. -Very, very much. ♪♪ -Oh. -[ Sighs ] ♪♪ [ Voice breaking ] What's the matter? ♪♪ Yolanda: [ Crying ] I'm just in shock. I feel myself trembling. I didn't know my sister was living like this. So, one of the things, not to be judgmental... -No. -...by any means, that Yolanda and I noticed when we walked up was the smell just outside. And it's pretty strong inside. -Oh, I know it. -Can you smell it, or are you immune to it from living in it? I've always been trained to breathe - a mouth breather, -so it doesn't bother me. -Mm-hmm. I forgot I was supposed to buy a bunch -of vanilla lavender plug-ups. -It's okay. -I don't care how many you buy. -It's okay. We're used to it. Yeah, and -- and honestly, I-I think Yolanda's right. I don't think it'd make a difference. I know you've got some dogs. I could hear them in the back. But let's make our way through the house. I want to see more of what we've got ahead of us. Oh, God. ♪♪ Nathan: If I can't get this mess cleaned up then I'm going to be out. I'm going to be evicted. ♪♪ The church that I grew up in, if you were gay, you know, it's an abomination. It's unclean. It's, you know -- It can be forgiven if you turn back to the Lord. ♪♪ My Christian faith teaches me that homosexuality is wrong. I have a sister-in-law who is the member of the church family. And she did say, "Turn or burn, Nathan." "Turn or burn. Turn or burn, Nathan." ♪♪ Kathy: His dad and stepmother was telling Nathan that he was going to go to hell and die with AIDS. ♪♪ Um, just very upsetting. ♪♪ He is going to be evicted if doesn't clean up the house. ♪♪ Nathan: I could lose my family. I'm going to lose my partner. I'm going to lose the house. ♪♪ This is the lowest I've ever been in my life. ♪♪ ♪♪ So, we are at your brother's house. I'm Dr. Melva Green, a psychiatrist specializing in hoarding behaviors. Ah, This is the first time that I've actually been -to the property, so... -So you're not really sure what's going on inside or what to expect? -I have no idea. -Well, let's get in there and see what we're dealing with. Okay. ♪♪ -Hi, Nathan. -Hey. How are you? I'm great. I'm Dr. Green. -Nice to meet you. -Come on out. -As soon as Nathan comes out... -Hey. ...and he and his brother embrace, it's very clear that they care a lot about each other, and it was a very tender moment. Come on in. ♪♪ [ Nathan sighing ] So, this is it. Jason: Quite a collection. When I first walked inside, um, predominant themes of puppets, cars, back to the childhood Peter Pan toys. My friends that come over, they call it Pee-wee's Playhouse in here. That's part of my personality, though. I've always been, like, childlike. Dr. Green: Nathan acknowledges not wanting to grow up, wanting to stay in that childlike innocence, that growing up is too challenging. Nathan: Being an adult's not really that fun. ♪♪ Dr. Green: There's a whole lot of silence here. What's really going on? It's unclear whether or not Nathan just doesn't have the words to express what's going on with him, or that he's really just too embarrassed to talk about it in front of his brother. ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Dog barking ] Well, this is the living room. These are virgin couches. Nobody has ever sat on them. ♪♪ -Okay. -Except the rats. -Rats? -Yeah. ♪♪ Don't freak out. They're not here right now. In the daytime, they leave. Well, I'm definitely -- Now that you mention it, -I'm seeing the evidence... -Oh, yeah. ...because we've got the -- the feces and -- Yes. ♪♪ Hi, kids. There's Sophie. There's Madison. Hi! -And there's Rocky and my Pocky. -Oh, hello. -That's Lilly. -So, how many dogs total? 13. 13, okay. Dr. Zasio: Seeing these dogs in the midst of this extreme hoard was a very, very horrific sight. This is concerning. Let's go see the other dogs, okay? Okay. Now, this is like going through a rat maze. ♪♪ Just watch where you're walking so you don't kill yourself. Well, there's Liz Taylor. Yeah, what room is this? -Is this your bedroom? -My bedroom, yeah. Oh, my God. There's a poop. [ Dog barking ] This is my special needs dog. He's missing, um, the arteries to his liver. He needs to have medication right now, 'cause he's itching his face, and that's not good. [ Dog continues barking ] Oh, poor baby. Hi. This one is just skin and bones. And look at that one. All of these dogs have got to get medically checked. Celia: Excuse me. Ziggy can't process any protein. So his skin starts getting itchy, and then he gets dizzy. Anyway, this stuff cleans his liver out so that he doesn't have that extra bile. It's okay. [ Gasps ] Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm going to kill him. I gave him [bleep] Prozac! Celia: Oh, no! I gave him the wrong medicine! I gave the dog Prozac! Oh, my God! He's going to die. How do I get him to throw up? She just gave him a whole vial of Prozac. I need to call 911, yeah. He's going to die in a minute. Celia just gave her dog her own antidepressant medication. She's trying to find the phone number for the vet, and as I'm holding this dog, I'm thinking it could die at this very moment. Celia: Marianne, I have an emergency. I picked up the wrong bottle and gave my dog Prozac. It was an accident. Yeah, I was trying -- I wanted to give him lactulose 'cause, you know, he was itching his face, and that's what I give him daily. 10 - about 10 milligrams. You're kidding me. Should I give him the lactulose to kind of clean his blood out? Okay, thank you. [ Sighs ] So, what does he need a laxative for? It's not a laxative. It's lactulose. It does work as a laxative 'cause he doesn't have a liver. Okay. So let me give him some lactulose. This is a perfect example of why somebody should not have this many animals. She's very disorganized, could not find the proper medicine, and it's causing the dogs to suffer. She could have killed her dog. I think we've seen what we need to see. We've got a lot of work to do, and I suggest we get started. ♪♪ I'm going to -- I'm going to talk to Nathan alone, but before I do, I wanted to make sure you didn't have any questions or wanted to know anything or say anything. ♪♪ You just tell me where you need me and how I can help. Thank you. ♪♪ ♪♪ Talk to me. [ Crying ] I don't know who I am. I don't know where I want to go or how to get there. ♪♪ How old were you when you came out? 15. I know how they -- Like, my dad, I know how he felt about it with the church. And I know how he still feels about it. And, you know, I respect his belief. Dr. Green: Nathan has grown up in a place where homosexuality is just unacceptable. It's not something I believe myself to be wrong. The psychological violence that comes along with that, he has put on this face. It's almost as if he's put on one of his puppets and moves through his life hiding behind these masks. I just feel alone here. I gave up. Can I tell you my sense? Sure. I think you're holding on to everything up until age 15. ♪♪ Yeah. The world changed then. Through this process, there are going to be some things that are important for you -- look at me -- that are important for you to say to your family. I know. I don't think I'm ever going to change, you know, their beliefs, though. That's not what it's about. Then what's it about? It's about not giving up on yourself, accepting yourself wholly and completely. That's hard for me to do. Well, as you start to let this stuff go, you're going to have to say some things, as well. People are going to have to hear some things that are going to be tough to hear. Are you willing? Yeah. Okay. ♪♪ ♪♪ Celia: If I don't get the house cleaned up, I will lose everything, the house and the dogs. [ Dog barking ] ♪♪ ♪♪ Good morning, ladies. -Good morning. -Good morning. I'm Dorothy Breininger. I'm a professional organizing expert, and I specialize in hoarding. There's poo and urine. We've got rat infestation. There's a reality to the nastiness of the house. We're going to start with the atrium area. Okay, junk team, let's start with this big box spring. ♪♪ Great. ♪♪ They're brand-new. They haven't even -- -I-I agree. I agree. -My sister just gave them to me. They smell clean. Oh, my collars. This is all dog stuff. You want all the clothes to the dog section? Yes, all my -- -That goes into the dog bag. -Okay. I'm going to -- I'm going to bring them over there right now, -all the dog clothes. -Okay. -Can I have this for Kolohe? -No. I don't want you asking for anything, Rene. This isn't time to give away. Excuse me, Rene wanted to take -- starts taking stuff for her dog. I don't want anybody to start taking any of my stuff. All I did was ask a simple question. I just said -- She had two dog bowls, and I just said, "Oh, can Kolohe have this one?" And she jumped on me. She says, "I don't want you asking for anything. I don't want anybody asking for anything". I don't need to be here. She needs me more than I need her. All right. So, what just happened? -Rene, wait. -I need you to just -- -No. No. -She won't. Rene, what's the matter, honey? No, thank you. Rene, what happened, babe? Breininger: We are off to a really rocky start. We're 15 minutes into cleaning up the house, and things are already starting to spiral out of control. I am not going to be around that ungrateful bitch. Okay...? I was ready to give up three full days of my time -to help her. -It's a dog bowl. -What? -And she doesn't want it. She should have cleaned it up herself, lazy bitch. Lazy<i> pig</i> bitch. ♪♪ You know what? We haven't had any talks, you and I, on how I want this done with my sisters. -Let's talk. -Okay? -Yeah, let's talk. -And with -- with Rene. That -- That was going to happen, okay. Okay, let's -- let's talk. Let's talk. We don't have to talk. I just was going to dump, dump, dump. No, no, no, no. No, 'cause - 'Cause we -- We're only 15, 20 minutes in, and you're getting upset. They're throwing away some -- Throw that - that -- Okay, Dorothy, can you put a hold on things? This is all my Christmas stuff. -We need to -- -Everybody hang on. You know, because -- Lookit. They're already -throwing stuff in the -- -Stop. Stop. Stop. -It's okay. -Just stop. I just bought -- That's a brand-new dryer. -Yeah, throw it in the good -- -Okay. Ladies, we're stopping for a moment, okay? Because nobody's talked to me, and no boundaries have been set with anybody. Okay. Hang on. Let's go. I've had one person already walk off of the project. Celia's in a big state of emergency, and I can't see how we're ever even going to get started! [ Indistinct conversations ] ♪♪ Nathan: [ Crying ] I just don't know who I am. I don't know anything anymore. There's so much crap And that's probably why I have all this [bleep] in here. ♪♪ ♪♪ Good morning, everyone. -Morning. -Good morning. I'm Standolyn Robertson, a certified professional organizer. I really want to challenge you on why, some of the things you're keeping, you're keeping. I don't know if it'll be clothes or collectibles, but there will be some challenges. The doctor and I want to really team up with you and your family to help you through this process. From my perspective, I think this is going to be important to have a lot of conversation. There have been a lot of things that perhaps may not have been said. Nathan is angry. Nathan has -- has been holding a tremendous amount of resentment towards his father. Until he begins getting rid of the emotional hoard, nothing's going to change. He's just going to continue to do what he's been doing. ♪♪ You said to me that you wanted a Zen feel. -Yeah. -You wanted to really have a peaceful place. I can give that to you, but you got to work your butt off... -I'm ready to work it off. -...the next of couple of days. Okay. Well, I'll see. ♪♪ ♪♪ So, let's start. You want to -- -Yeah. -We'll just start here. Keep. And three keep. Okay, and the rest of these? Donate. If this was this easy, -why are we here? -It's not easy for me. I'm just trying to be strong. One keep. See? It's getting a little harder. Not going to get crabby, though. Robertson: Nathan is ready. This is what hoarding can look like when you're young. This is all going to be donated. He's aware of his situation, and he's willing to do the hard work. Donate. Donate. Donate. ♪♪ Celia: That's trash. This is all brand-new. Celia. Celia. I told somebody who was walking out with the box. Celia. She's ready to get upset with me. Well, she<i> is</i> upset with me, because she's seeing things that going to go on the truck to be thrown away. And I'm explaining, "No, no, no. This is proposed trash waiting for your approval." ♪♪ I can't afford anymore to buy things. Do -- Celia. -Celia, stop. -What? -Okay. -I want to ask you something. -Hang on. Hang on, Celia. -I want to ask you, is anything on this truck right now? -No. -Okay. So can you see nothing is thrown away at this point? -Do you understand? -Yes. Because I have a proposed trash pile. And what did I say when we set up our criteria, that we would make what? -Trash pile. -It's not thrown away. -We are politely and neatly -- -Making piles. Over here. You guys need to tell me what the heck you're going to do. -But I-I did say that. -That's -- Essentially, Celia says, "There's a lot going on. My mind is racing, and I'm having a hard time keeping up. I let her know, "Thanks for letting us know that, but if you don't communicate, we don't know what's going on." But what I want to be clear on is, you know, we did set criteria for the sorting. Okay. Okay. So I just want to have us say it again. Now I understand. I'm going to say what I heard you say now. -Okay. -You will make piles, and if I do see something like that or that, we will take it out, and we'll deal with it later. I think at the end of the day, -you'll be happy. -I will. ♪♪ So, Celia, this is Richard. -Hi, Richard. Nice to meet you. -Hi, Celia. Is the legal limit here three? -Three. -Do you know? -And how many do you have? -13. 13. I'd like to kind of meet the animals and just get an idea of their general health, you know? Okay, great. Look at all these babies! -[ Chuckles ] -Hi! Hello! -Come in! -So, what is that, three, four Maltese here? Three Yorkies. Do all these guys hang out primarily in this room? Yes. Wright: The smell of feces and urine was overwhelming. It must be horrible for them to live in that kind of environment. -This is the master bedroom. -Okay. I keep the dogs crated in here. Seeing the dogs in the kennels, two dogs to each one, raised some concern. You're going to have an increased level of animal waste. The ammonia can cause respiratory issues. Walking around in it can also burn the pads of their feet, causing infection. So those were the dogs I was immediately concerned the most about. We're just going to check them out. We're going to put them in carriers, just set aside so that we can kind of get a head count. -That's great. -Sound good? Yeah. ♪♪ Just put them under the tables. ♪♪ Oh, this is Barney. -Okay. -He is a dirty mess. -A little ragamuffin. -Yes. -He's very shy. -They weren't being groomed or kept up the way that dogs -- that typical breed needs. They need constant grooming, constant, you know, attention. -Doesn't have hardly any teeth. -Ooh. -Yeah. -Really bad. -This is Blondie. -Blondie, hi. See how the fur's kind of matted together in the feet? -Yes. -It's very tender. -That's from the urine. -Oh, I'm sorry. People who start hoarding animals, they start off with the best intentions, and I think that's what you've done. You know, your heart's in the right place but you're over-stretching yourself. And you had talked about your concerns legally with animal control and all these people. Oh, definitely. It's just -- It's like hide-and-seek all the time. If they obtained the legal justification to come in here in and to seize these animals and to charge you, there'd be no guarantee that they be re-homed, that they wouldn't be euthanized. It -- It's just a cold, hard reality. The reason I have these wonderful people here -- They're willing to take in any animals that you're willing to give over to them with the guarantee that none of them will be put down. I would suggest, since the legal limit is three, that you pick the three that couldn't live without. [ Voice breaking ] These are my kids. Dr. Zasio: Clearly, Celia has a lot of emotional anguish over these dogs. She truly sees them as her children. So understandably, the prospect of letting go of them is very painful for her. With the help and support you have right in this very moment, would you be willing to let go of some of them? [ Sobs ] ♪♪ Garbage. I'm good at putting the garbage in, huh? -Garbage. -Got it. -Garbage? -Garbage. -Garbage. -I was really surprised, and I've asked him a couple times, "Why is it so easy for you to give these things away?" And his response is, is that he needed the team. He needed the support. He needed us around him to make those decisions. And the rest is all donate. ♪♪ -What is that? -They're -- They're raccoon penis bones. -Oh, my goodness. -[ Laughs ] Okay. Sorry I asked. Robertson: I'm not sure I would have recognized that, because I've never heard or seen anything like that before. Truthful, I-I-I didn't know penises have bones. [ Both laugh ] There's not very many animals that do. I-I can respect that that could be something that someone would collect. Do -- Do you mind me asking why you have, uh, penis bones? Uh, donate. Okay. [ Laughter ] They were in a box of stuff that I brought home, I swear. I never want to see anything like that again. ♪♪ Dr. Green: The humor is a great psychological defense mechanism, but ultimately, it's concerning that they really aren't getting into the deep. They're really not communicating things that really need to be communicated. ♪♪ ♪♪ Wright: The legal limit is three dogs. So you can't have all 13 of them. Great. [ Sobs ] ♪♪ So many of your problems go away if you just pick the three dogs that just could not live without. ♪♪ I need to keep Sophie. -Madison? -Madison. You said Gracie? -Yeah, Gracie. -There you go. Dr. Zasio: It was so hard for Celia, but ultimately, she agreed to pick three dogs and be done with it. I was so proud of her, and not at all what I expected. ♪♪ Breininger: Dunkers, give me some bags, will you? We lost an entire day yesterday. We had to take care of the dogs. But the sisters are totally stoked to get in and start cleaning. Heads up! ♪♪ I need a new trash, trash bag. ♪♪ I've got the girls cleaning in there. They're going like gangbusters. And all of a sudden [screaming] [ Women screaming ] Okay! Okay. They're standing on couches and chairs. Mice are everywhere. It's in here. [ All screaming ] ♪♪ This is trash. Trash. -Oh [bleep] -What? Celia: There's cockroaches all over here. Damn, the roaches are everywhere. This is where you're sleeping, honey. Okay, do me a favor. If you want to get dramatic about my roaches -- -Well, guess what? -What? This is cockroach-infested. It's [bleep] work, man. I get it. She's upset. She doesn't like to hear that there are roaches, but they're everywhere. This is the worst room of the house, and it's where she sleeping. This is deplorable. -Do you want a break? -Yeah. Okay. Everybody, let's take a break. [ Celia sobbing ] ♪♪ ♪♪ This woman is in so much pain, she's sobbing from the gut, and she doesn't understand herself. What did you just get out of your system, hon? Something came out, didn't it? -A [bleep] exorcism. -Right? I just spiritually vomited everything out right now. Well, as the physical clutter gets cleared... -My sisters are coming back. -...you have the room for the emotional stuff that's going on. Yeah. The physical stuff blocks a person's ability to deal with the emotional stuff. That's why they're bringing the stuff in in the first place. Now that all the stuff is going, there's all this room for the emotional stuff, and it's coming up. I feel so blessed, 'cause I-I've seen a-a new side of Celia that I've always wanted to see. And we have the opportunity to make changes together and -- and go forward. ♪♪ Tell us why you're keeping that. -Where did my penis bones go? -[ Laughs ] -No. -Okay. ♪♪ Dr. Green: Nathan, I want you to tell your father what it is that you are really holding onto. ♪♪ Do you think being gay is a sin? Yes. To me, it is, but can I judge someone? -I can't. -But I don't -- I can't heal myself if I can't know that I'm okay being who I am. Nathan, I accept you the way you are. Will you accept me the way I am? That's not accepting. I'm not asking you to change. I think you're asking me to change. Is that what you're after, him to change his convictions? Yeah, probably. You don't have to have agreement on ideals to get along. If you're going to have deeper connections with your father, with your family... ...you're going to have to accept<i> you</i> 1,000%. You don't have to have the consent of anyone. ♪♪ And it shouldn't make you feel bad. ♪♪ Dr. Green: Nathan really wants his father to change his mind. And he's so focused on that. I'm really concerned about his approval addiction. Until he can really release that, his life is going to remain stuck. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ Singsong voice ] Hello! Oh, my God. -Oh. -Oh, my gosh. -Wow. -Wow. Breininger: Celia's walking in, and her mouth is dropping open. Her mom, Anita, right behind her, looking around in tears, and the sisters are besides themselves. This is amazing. -Amazing. -Never seen her -- Never seen her speechless before. Woman: That is a first. I haven't, either. I know. ♪♪ [ Laughs ] -Oh, wow. -Oh, my God. It's a bedroom. ♪♪ Is this a better way to live, Celia? Oh, my God. I've been in the eye of the hurricane, with all the hoarding and the roaches and the rats and the overwhelming dogs. ♪♪ Something switched in me. I shifted these last four days, because my family came through for me. ♪♪ -Thank you so much. -We thank you for calling -and taking care of -- Okay. -Yay. ♪♪ -How are you? -I'm fine. How are you? Good. This is so pretty. Thank you. I was called into the room because Nathan has had a problem with his dad because of his sexuality. I'm just wanting Dad to accept who I am. It doesn't matter whether you're -- you're gay. It doesn't matter. We're all different people. But that doesn't mean we love you any less. Dr. Green: Well, there is so much wisdom there and so much love for you. Do you really want to live and not just continue to exist? You got to let it go. ♪♪ Dr. Green: The issue is self-acceptance, Ronald accepting Ronald as he is and Nathan accepting Nathan as he is. That's the real healing. That's the real transformation. ♪♪ What is your decision with all these items on this table? Uh, every bit of it needs to go. Excellent. -All of it? -All of it? -All of it. -All of it. -Ron, that's all donate. -Trash probably. Dr. Green: Nathan has gotten rid of many of the things that have held him stuck... [ Growling ] ...in very childlike and immature behaviors. Donate? Yep. Nathan is finally growing up. ♪♪ ♪♪ Wow. Ronald: This is an amazing transformation. I mean, there's so much clear space. When this began, everyone had tears, tears of sadness, tears of shame, tears of guilt. But they're all radiating with a very beautiful glow now. It's like the weights have been lifted off of each and every one of their shoulders. Holy cow. ♪♪ Very nice. Robertson: What I like about this room, I feel like it's not a child's room. This room belongs to a man. That was kind of the first thought I had when I walked in. Mm-hmm. You could see him almost, like, stand a little taller. For my family to -- to come and help me with this, for y'all to come and help me, that's just really a message of love. ♪♪ Nathan: I saw my dad's heart and I saw my mom's heart and I saw my brother's heart warm, too. And this is really a beautiful, beautiful experience for me. It's something I will never, never ever forget. We're proud of you. -Big group hug. -[ Chuckles ] Everybody. Everybody. -Oh. -Please, Pookie, don't bite me. ♪♪
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