>> Adrienne: TONIGHT, THE TERRIFYING NEAR MISS CAUGHT ON CAMERA IN THAT DEADLY WRONG-WAY POLICE CHASE. >> OH, MY GOD. I ALMOST GOT HIT. >> Adrienne: THE NEW VIDEO OBTAINED BY CBC NEWS OF THE MASSIVE POLICE RESPONSE DURING THAT HIGH SPEED PURSUIT. >> WE HAVE NOT JUST THIS VAN THAT WE HAD TO DODGE, BUT THEY'RE DODGING POLICE. >> Adrienne: PLUS, PROTESTERS FACE-OFF AT McGILL AS QUEBEC'S PREMIER WEIGHS IN. >> WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE LAW. >> Adrienne: AND "AT ISSUE." >> WHEN WILL WE PUT AN END TO THIS WACKO POLICY BY THIS WACKO PRIME MINISTER? >> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: THE LEADER OPPOSITE IS SHOWING US WHAT SHAMEFUL SPINELESS LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE. >> Adrienne: INSULTS AND CHAOS IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. PARLIAMENT TAKES A TURN. [♪♪♪] >> Adrienne: THANKS FOR JOINING US. WE BEGIN WITH NEW VIDEO GIVING US NEW DETAILS ABOUT THE POLICE RESPONSE DURING THAT DEADLY HIGH SPEED CHASE ON CANADA'S BUSIEST HIGHWAY. IN THE END, FOUR PEOPLE DIED, INCLUDING A THREE MONTH OLD BOY. AGAIN, WE SEE HOW DRIVERS HAD JUST A MOMENT TO RESPOND TO THE SIGHT OF A VAN CAREENING TOWARDS THEM AT MAXIMUM SPEED, AND WE SEE THE SHEER SCALE OF PURSUIT, CRUISER AFTER CRUISER GIVING CHASE THE WRONG WAY DOWN THE HIGHWAY. THERE ARE ALSO NEW REVELATIONS FROM INVESTIGATORS, BUT FIRST, THOMAS DAIGLE TAKES US THROUGH THE VIDEO AND THE DRIVER WHO CAPTURED IT. >> Reporter: NEW DASHCAM VIDEO SHARED WITH CBC NEWS IS PAINTING A CLEARER PICTURE OF A POLICE CHASE THAT ENDED IN TRAGEDY. WATCH AS THAT U-HAUL VAN PURSUED BY OFFICERS SPEEDS THROUGH TRAFFIC GOING THE WRONG WAY. THEN COME POLICE. WE COUNTED 20 POLICE VEHICLES WITH LIGHTS FLASHING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, INCLUDING AT LEAST SEVEN GIVING CHASE IN THE OPPOSITION DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC. THAT'S MORE POLICE CARS THAN PREVIOUSLY REPORTED. >> THERE'S A PSYCHO IN A TRUCK DRIVING THE WRONG WAY. >> Reporter: MILA BURKETT RECORDED THAT VIDEO AND QUESTIONS IF PEOPLE MADE THE INCIDENT SAFER. >> TALK ABOUT AN OVERREACTION? I AM FURIOUS. >> Reporter: THE SCALE OF ONE FAMILY'S LOSS IN THAT FIERY CRASH IS NOW BECOMING CLEARER. INVESTIGATORS SAY IT WAS A THREE-MONTH-OLD BOY WHO DIED ALONG WITH TWO GRANDPARENTS VISITING FROM INDIA. INSIDE THE SAME CAR WERE THE INFANT'S PARENTS, ALSO TAKEN TO HOSPITAL. IT ALL STARTED WITH A LIQUOR STORE ROBBERY DESCRIBED THAT NIGHT IN PROVINCIAL POLICE RADIO CHATTER. >> DURHAM ADVISING THERE WAS A MALE INSIDE THE RCBO. HE PULLED A KNIFE ON AN OFF-DUTY OFFICER. >> Reporter: OFFICERS WOULDN'T COMMENT ON MEDIA REPORTS, SAYING THE PURSUIT HAD ACTUALLY BEEN CALLED OFF BEFORE REACHING THE HIGHWAY. >> IF THAT WAS ACCURATE THERE COULD BE CONSEQUENCES THERE BECAUSE YOU'VE DISOBEYED A LAWFUL ORDER. >> Reporter: THE 28-YEAR-OLD DRIVER OF THAT U-HAUL VAN WAS ALSO KILLED AND ANOTHER MAN THEY DESCRIBED AS A PASSENGER WAS SENT TO HOSPITAL. WHY THAT MANY POLICE CARS GAVE CHASE IS NOT CLEAR. >> Adrienne: SO THOMAS, WE'RE LEARNING, A GATHER, A LITTLE BIT MORE INVESTIGATION INTO THE CRASH? >> Reporter: YEAH. A SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT HAS DESIGNATED TWO SUBJECT OFFICIALS, SO THAT MEANS AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE ARE THE SUBJECT OF THIS INVESTIGATION. OFFICIALS HAVE NOT SAID WHO THOSE SUBJECT OFFICIALS ARE. TYPICALLY, PEOPLE CONSIDERED SUBJECT OFFICIALS CAN'T BE COMPELLED TO SIT FOR AN INTERVIEW WITH INVESTIGATORS OR TO SUBMIT THEIR NOTES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. >> Adrienne: OKAY. WELL, WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS GOES. THOMAS DAIGLE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORTING. >> Reporter: YOU'RE WELCOME. >> Adrienne: PROTESTS AT SOME OF CANADA'S LARGEST UNIVERSITIES ARE NOW GROWING AND SPREADING. THEY ARE SITUATED IN MULTIPLE PROVINCES ON MULTIPLE CAMPUSES. ALONG WITH OFFICERS, A LARGE COUNTER PROTEST TOOK PLACE, PROVIDING MORE PROOF OF HEIGHTENING TENSIONS. SARAH LEAVITT NOW ON THAT DIVISION, THE ROLE POLICE ARE TAKING, AND THE PREMIER'S PUSH FOR A FIRMER RESPONSE. >> Reporter: AT McGILL'S FRONT GATE, POLICE OFFICERS FORM A WALL, OTHERS ON HORSEBACK WATCH CLOSELY HERE TO PREVENT TWO GROUPS FROM CLASHING ON CAMPUS. PRO-PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS ON THEIR SIXTH DAY CAMPING OUT, CALLING ON McGILL TO DIVEST FROM ALL FUNDS AND ORGANIZATIONS WITH TIES TO ISRAEL, INCLUDING THIS STUDENT. >> WE ARE CALLING FOR THE END OF GENOCIDE, AND WE ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLING ON THE SCHOOLS OF McGILL AND CONCORDIA TO DIVEST. >> Reporter: ON THE STREET, COUNTER PROTESTS GATHERED CARRYING DOZENS OF ISRAELI FLAGS. THEY SAY THEY'RE HURT BY THE SLOGANS AND CHANTS USED BY THE McGILL ENCAMPMENT, ONES THEY FOUND ANTISEMITIC. >> WE COME HERE TODAY, YOU KNOW, JUST TO FIGHT THIS WITH OUR LOVE AND JUST SEEING OUR COMMUNITY HERE AND TRYING TO PUT SOME BALANCE. >> Reporter: THOSE ON THE OTHER SIDE DENY ANY HATRED, ADAMANT, SAYING THEIR DEMONSTRATION IS PEACEFUL, THEIR SLOGANS MEANT TO SUPPORT PALESTINIANS, NOT HARM ISRAELIS. AFTER A TENSE DAY, THE COUNTER PROTESTERS HERE WENT HOME. THOSE AT THE ENCAMPMENT REMAIN, SOME EMPOWERED BY THE QUEBEC SUPERIOR COURT'S REJECTION OF AN INJUNCTION TO END THE PROTEST. WHILE POLICE ARE NOW PROTEST, THERE'S BEEN NO INTERVENTION. >> IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT IT'S ILLEGAL AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE LAW. >> Reporter: BUT IN QUEBEC CITY, PREMIER FRANÇOIS LEGAULT HAS MADE HIS POSITION CLEAR. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT POLICE TO DO? >> TO DISMANTLE ENCAMPMENTS. >> Reporter: RIGHT NOW? >> AT A TIME THEY WILL JUST TO BE THE RIGHT ONE. >> Adrienne: SARAH, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO TELL AT THIS POINT, BUT IS THERE ANY INDICATION OF WHAT COULD COME NEXT? >> Reporter: WELL, LEGAULT HASN'T SAID IF HE'S ORDERING ANY FURTHER ACTION. HE HAS JUST TOLD POLICE TO DO THEIR JOB. MEANWHILE, IN OTTAWA, THE JUSTICE MINISTER SAYING POLICE OPERATIONS SHOULD ALWAYS REMAIN INDEPENDENT, BUT HE DID SAY TO PROTESTERS HERE THEY HAVE TO REMEMBER TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW. >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT. SARAH LEAVITT AT McGILL UNIVERSITY TONIGHT. >>> BACK TO THAT NEW ENCAMPMENT AT CANADA'S LARGEST UNIVERSITY WHERE PROTESTERS SAY THEY WON'T LEAVE UNTIL THEIR DEMANDS ARE MET. [chants]. >> Adrienne: JUST LIKE AT McGILL, DEMONSTRATORS AT U OF T ARE DEMANDING THAT THE SCHOOL DIVESTS FROM ALL INVESTMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH ISRAEL. >>> AND AT THE UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA, NEW TENTS WENT UP THROUGH THE DAY, A PART OF THREE OTHER ENCAMPMENTS, ONE OF WHICH WENT UP IN VICTORIA. THERE'S ALSO ONE AT VANCOUVER ISLAND UNIVERSITY. >>> AND IN LOS ANGELES, THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA ENCAMPMENT IS GONE, TORN DOWN BY POLICE. LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE SHOWS US HOW THIS IS SPARKING THE LIMIT OF PEACEFUL PROTESTS. >> Reporter: IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING, THE ENCAMPMENT AT UCLA CAME DOWN. POLICE FIRED RUBBER BULLETS, PROTESTERS THROUGH PROJECTILES, BUT IT APPEARS THAT NO ONE WAS SERIOUSLY HURT. >> WE CONSIDER IT A SUCCESSFUL INCIDENT. WE DIDN'T SEE NO INJURIES ON BOTH ENDS. >> Reporter: MORE THAN 200 PROTESTERS WERE ARRESTED, A VIOLATION, THEY SAY, OF THEIR RIGHT TO PROTEST THE WAR IN GAZA. >> I THINK POLICE UPHOLD THE SYSTEM OF OPPRESSION AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT RIGHT. THEY'RE JUST UPHOLDING THE STATUS QUO, SO WE NEED TO RESIST, WE NEED TO KEEP PROTESTING, AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT CHANGE WILL BE MADE, RIGHT, IS BY RESISTING THE STATUS QUO. >> Reporter: IT'S ESTIMATED IN TWO WEEKS THAT 2,000 PRO-PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED. THIS MORNING, PORTLAND POLICE CLEARED A CAMPUS LIBRARY, AND OVERNIGHT, ARRESTS IN AT LEAST THREE OTHER STATES. IN THE NATION'S CAPITAL, THOUGH, POLICE HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO MOVE IN, A CONTRASTING APPROACH AS CAMPUSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY GRAPPLE WITH HOW AND WHEN TO LIMIT PROTESTS. THE PRESIDENT ATTEMPTED TO EXPLAIN. >> DESTROYING PROPERTY IS NOT A PEACEFUL PROTEST. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW. VANDALISM, FORCING YOUR WAY INTO A BUILDING, FORCING THE CANCELLATION OF GRADUATIONS AND CLASSES, NONE OF THIS IS A PEACEFUL PROTEST. >> Reporter: MANY OF THEM SEE THIS OVER THEIR EXPERIENCE OF WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THIS JUDGE IS JEWISH AND IS GLAD TO SEE THE BARRICADES GONE. >> I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT A GENERATION KNOWN FOR APATHY IS GETTING ENGAGED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CAUSE THEY'RE GETTING ENGAGED FOR. >> Adrienne: LINDSAY, IT LOOKS CALM BEHIND YOU. >> YEAH, THERE ARE NO TENTS, NO PROTESTERS. CLASSES WILL REMAIN VIRTUAL TOMORROW, AND THERE'S STILL A PRETTY STRONG POLICE PRESENCE, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS DO NOT WANT TO SEE PROTESTERS COME BACK AND BUILD UP ANOTHER ENCAMPMENT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN ON OTHER CAMPUSES. ONE SIDE EFFECT OF ALL OF THESE ARRESTS, ADRIENNE, IS THAT IT HAS SEEMED TO SHARPEN THE RESOLVE OF SOME OF THESE PROTESTERS TO KEEP FIGHTING. >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE AT UCLA. >>> AS THOSE CAMPUS PROTESTS CALL FOR AN END TO THE WAR IN GAZA, IT IS GRINDING ON, OBLITERATING HOMES AND LIVES, BUT CAM MCINTOSH HAS THE LATEST THAT ISRAEL AND HAMAS MIGHT BE CLOSE TO A CEASEFIRE DEAL. >> Reporter: ISRAEL IS RELEASING 65 PALESTINIAN PRISONERS. THIS MAN SAYS HE WAS HELD 60 DAYS AND BEATEN. ISRAEL IS CONSIDERING RELEASING HUNDREDS MORE PRISONERS IN A CEASEFIRE BACKED BY EGYPT IN EXCHANGE FOR 30 ISRAELI HOSTAGES TO START. ISRAEL IS REPORTEDLY LOOKING AT PARTS OF IT FAVORABLY, BUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, ISRAEL SAID NO AGREEMENT WOULD RESULT IN A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA. >> WE WANT THIS TO BE OVER, AND WE'LL KEEP FIGHT AND SCREAM AND SHOUT EVERYWHERE WE CAN. >> Reporter: THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS ADVISING ISRAEL AGAINST AN INVASION OF RAFAH, INCLUDING THE U.S., WHICH IS IMPLORING HAMAS -- >> THE DEAL IS THERE. THEY SHOULD TAKE IT. >> Reporter: FOR WEEKS, ISRAEL HAS BEEN HITTING RAFAH WITH AIR STRIKES, WITH CIVILIANS AMONG THE DEAD. THE HAMAS-RUN GAZAN HEALTH MINISTRY SAYS NEARLY 35,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED SINCE FIGHTING BEGAN, THE MAJORITY WOMEN AND CHILDREN. IN THIS RAFAH CAMP FOR THE DISPLACED, MESSAGES PAINTED FOR AMERICAN DEMONSTRATORS ON UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES. MEANWHILE, IN ALREADY LEVELLED PARTS OF GAZA, MORE AID, ISRAEL OPENING A SINGLE CROSSING TO GAZA'S NORTH SINCE OCTOBER 7. A STARK ASSESSMENT FROM THE U.N. >> THE OVERALL DESTRUCTION OF GAZA TODAY TO REBUILD ACCORDING TO OUR ESTIMATES WILL BE $40 BILLION TO $50 BILLION AT LEAST. >> Reporter: SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE DECADES, IF IT CAN. >> Adrienne: AND IN DONALD TRUMP'S HUSH MONEY TRIAL, STORMY DANIELS' FORMER ATTORNEY TOOK THE STAND. >> Reporter: FRESH OFF CAMPAIGNING IN TWO OTHER STATES, FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP BACK IN MANHATTAN FACING JURORS. >> President Donald Trump: IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO CAMPAIGN ONE DAY WITHOUT THIS RIDICULOUS SHOW TRIAL. >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTION CALLED DANIELS' FORMER LAWYER, KEITH DAVIDSON. HE TESTIFIED TRUMP'S FORMER LAWYER, MICHAEL COHEN, STRUCK A DEAL TO KEEP THE AFFAIR BETWEEN DANIELS AND TRUMP QUIET, AND AFTER THE DEAL, DANIELS TEXTED A CONFIDANT, WHAT HAVE WE DONE? AUDIO COHEN SECRETLY RECORDED OF TRUMP IN 2016 ALSO PLAYED IN COURT. [indiscernible]. >> Reporter: THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ALLEGED HUSH MONEY DEAL WITH A FORMER PLAYBOY MODEL, NOT STORMY DANIELS, BUT IT SHOWS A PATTERN. >> THAT'S A PRETTY TELLING PIECE OF EVIDENCE. >> Reporter: THE DEFENCE ATTEMPTED TO DISCREDIT DAVIDSON BY GRILLING HIM OVER OTHER HUSH MONEY DEALS WITH PEOPLE LIKE CHARLIE SHEEN AND HULK HOGAN. >> MICHAEL COHEN IS A DAMAGED WITNESS. THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY GET AS MANY OF HIS COMMENTS CORROBORATED BECAUSE THE MAN HAS LIED UNDER OATH. >> Reporter: TRUMP ALSO FACES A RULING ON FOUR MORE POTENTIAL GAG ORDER VIOLATIONS. >> President Donald Trump: I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER BEEN A MORE CONFLICTED JUDGE, CROOKED AND CONFLICTED. >> Reporter: THE GAG ORDER DOESN'T APPLY TO THE JUDGE, THOUGH, AND TRUMP IS DETERMINED TO JAB HIM ANY TIME HE GETS. >> Adrienne: THE ALBERTA GOVERNMENT SAYS IT AIMS TO AMEND ITS LEGISLATION THAT WILL GIVE ITS GOVERNMENT MORE POWER OVER MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS. BILL 20 WILL ALLOW THE PROVINCE TO OVERTURN MUNICIPAL BY-LAWS AND THE PROVINCE SAYS THE MEASURE WILL ONLY BE USED IN LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCE. >>> AND RESEARCH INTO FOR-PROFIT HEALTH CARE HAS SOME HERE WORRYING ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. AS CHRISTINE BIRAK REPORTS, IT MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR THE SYSTEM. >> Reporter: HOURS AFTER GIVING BIRTH, THIS WOMAN WAS BLEEDING. DOCTORS WANTED TO USE A POTENTIALLY LIFE SAVING COIL TO STOP THE BLOOD BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY DUE TO UNPAID BILLS. THEY TRANSFERRED HER TO ANOTHER HOSPITAL. HOSPITAL OWNERS BLAMED FINANCIAL WOES ON LOW U.S. MEDICARE PAYMENTS WHILE PAYING OUT MILLIONS IN DIVIDENDS. THIS IS ONE OF MANY U.S. HOSPITALS BOUGHT WITH BACKING FROM PRIVATE EQUITY FIRMS. COMPANIES THAT BUY OTHER COMPANIES WITH MAXIMUM BENEFITS FOR INVESTORS. >> WE SEE INFECTIONS GOING UP, PRICES GO UP, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK PROFITABLE FOR RESALE IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS. >> THEY SEE THEM AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MONEY. >> Reporter: PRIVATE MONEY IS NOT BUYING HOSPITALS HERE BUT AS PROVINCES REWRITE LAWS TO EMBRACE MORE FOR PROFIT CARE -- >> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE RAISING RED FLAGS AND FOR GOOD REASON. >> Reporter: STUDIES SHOW PRIVATE EQUITY CARE HOMES HAD THE HIGHEST RATES OF DEATH DURING THE PANDEMIC. >> ONE FIRM OWNS THE COMPANY THAT OWNS 14 OF OUR SURGICAL CENTRES ACROSS CANADA. >> Reporter: KENSINGTON CAPITAL CLEATED CLEAR POINT NETWORK TO OPERATE 53 OPERATING ROOMS IN CENTRES ACROSS CANADA. CLEAR POINT SAID OUR FOCUS IS ON PATIENT SAFETY AND PATIENT EXPERIENCE. IT SAYS IT SUPPLIES 55,000 SURGERIES FOR PUBLIC PATIENTS TO REDUCE THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES OF SURGICAL WAIT LISTS, BUT CBC NEWS FOUND FOR CATARACT AND KNEE SURGERIES, ONTARIO IS PAYING ONE OF THOSE CENTRES MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT IT PAYS HOSPITALS. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE REALLY TRULY EXPLORED BETTER WAYS OF DOING THAT THAT COST LESS AND THAT DON'T LINE THE POCKETS OF INVESTORS. >> Reporter: SCRUTINY ON PRIVATE EQUITY IN HEALTH CARE IS INCREASING, WITH THE U.S. BIDEN ADMINISTRATION RECENTLY ANNOUNCING PLANS FOR A PUBLIC ENQUIRY. CHRISTINE BIRAK, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: A NEW CANADIAN RIDE SHARE COMPANY IS HOPING TO DISRUPT THE DISRUPTORS. >> IT WILL COMPLETELY SHIFT THE WAY THAT THE RIDE SHARE INDUSTRY IS OPERATING. >> Adrienne: BUT CAN THEY COMPETE AGAINST THE GIANTS? >>> FIGHTING FOR NO COUNTRY. AN OLYMPIAN SHARES HIS TALENTS WITH UP-AND-COMERS. >>> AND THE BABY NAMING COINCIDENCE AT AN ALABAMA HOSPITAL. >> THIS IS JOHNNY [♪♪♪] >> Adrienne: SO DRAKE'S MUSIC IS COMING BACK TO TIK TOK AFTER UNIVERSAL MUSIC REACHED A NEW LICENSING DEAL WITH THE PLATFORM. THE LABEL YANKED DRAKE OFF TIK TOK, AND BOTH SIDES SAY ARTISTS WILL BE BETTER PROTECTED AGAINST A.I. GENERATED SOUND ALIKES. >>> AND A NEW CANADA RIDE HAILING SERVICE WILL PAY BETTER WAGES, BUT ATTRACTING CUSTOMERS MIGHT NOT BE SO EASY. >> Reporter: THIS DRIVER IS MAKING IT KNOWN RIGHT ON HIS VEHICLE HE'S BARELY MAKING A LIVING. >> NOW IT'S TOUGH. YOU WILL GET $100. YOU WORK SIX, SEVEN HOURS, YOU PICK UP ONE CUSTOMER. THAT'S IT. >> Reporter: DRIVERS HAVE LONG BEEN PUSHING RIDE HAIL COMPANIES FOR BETTER PAY. THIS CANADIAN WANTS TO DO THINGS BETTER WITH HIS START-UP COMPANY, HOVR. >> HELPING THE DRIVING EARN MORE AND HELPING THE RIDERS SAVE MORE ON EACH RIDE WILL SHIFT THE WAY THAT THE INDUSTRY IS OPERATING. >> Reporter: BUT UBER HAS BEEN AROUND 15 YEARS AND BOASTS 150 MILLION USERS WORLDWIDE. LYFT BOASTS 22 MILLION. LYFT IS ALSO TRYING TO GROW ITS FOOTPRINT IN CANADA AND SAYS IT WILL SOON INTRODUCE MINIMUM PAY LEVELS FOR DRIVERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> A DRIVER ACROSS THE COUNTRY ON A WEEKLY BASIS WILL NEVER MAKE LESS THAN 70% OF WHAT A RIDER PAYS AFTER INSURANCE AND TOLLS. >> Reporter: FOR ITS PART, UBER SAYS MOST DRIVERS ARE SATISFIED BUT DRIVERS SAY IT'S NOT AS TRANSPARENT AS IT COULD BE. BUT IT MAY NOT BE LONG BEFORE THERE'S A THIRD OPTION FOR RIDE HAILING HITTING THE ROAD. >> Adrienne: A KARATE CHAMPION FLED FROM IRAN AND COMPETED UNDER NO FLAG. NOW HE'S PASSING ON HIS TALENT TO OTHER YOUNG ATHLETES. >>> AND ROSIE'S HERE WITH "AT ISSUE." HEY THERE. >> Rosemary: HEY, ADRIENNE. TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT B.C.s DRUG POLICY AND THE CONSERVATIVE LEADER'S >> Adrienne: A KARATE CHAMPION WHO FLED IRAN AND NOW CALLS CANADA HOME IS USING HIS TALENTS TO TEACH THE NEXT GENERATION, AND AS JAMIE STRASHIN SHOWS US, HE IS ALSO PUSHING TO SHOW YOUNG REFUGEES HAVE A PLACE TO COMPETE. >> Reporter: I LEARNED KARATE IS HARD, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE ON THE MAT WITH AN OLYMPIAN. >> THE WHOLE OF MY LIFE WAS KARATE, AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. >> Reporter: HE WAS A WORLD CHAMPION IN IRAN BEFORE FLEEING TO CANADA IN 2019. NOT YET A CANADIAN CITIZEN, HE WAS PART OF THE INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE'S REFUGEE TEAM, PLACING FIFTH. KARATE WAS DROPPED FROM THE 2024 PARIS OLYMPICS BUT HE COMPETES IN NATIONAL COMPETITION. THAT'S MARY ANNA GUERRERO, A YOUNG ATHLETE AT THE TOP OF HER SPORT. >> I THINK IT'S JUST MORE MOTIVATION FOR ME TO PURSUE MY GOALS. >> Reporter: THIS 17-YEAR-OLD ALSO CAME TO CANADA FROM IRAN AND IS STILL WAITING FOR HER CITIZENSHIP THAT WOULD ALLOW HER TO COMPETE AND NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SANCTIONED CAN YOU REPEAT -- SANCTIONED TOURNAMENTS. UNLIKE THE OLYMPICS, THERE IS NO REFUGEE TEAM FOR THOSE UNDER THE AGE OF 18. THEY'VE BEEN TOLD TO STAY HOME FROM THE UPCOMING NATIONALS IN MONTREAL. >> I CRIED FOR DAYS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO FIGHT AND GET TO THAT LEVEL, AND THEY'RE, LIKE, OH, YOU CAN'T FIGHT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A CANADIAN PASSPORT. >> Reporter: IT'S A FIGHT THAT THE SENSEI HAS TAKEN BEYOND THE MAT, LOBBYING OFFICIALS. AT THE END OF THIS HOUR LONG CLASS, SWEAT DRIPS, THERE ARE SMILES AND HIGH FIVES. HE'S ALWAYS FIGHTING, PUSHING HIMSELF AND HIS STUDENTS TO BE THE BEST THEY CAN BE NO MATTER WHAT STANDS IN THEIR WAY. JAMIE STRASHIN, CBC NEWS, KITCHENER, ONTARIO. >> Adrienne: NOW, LET'S BREAKDOWN THE WEEK IN POLITICS. ROSIE'S HERE WITH "AT ISSUE." >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE," THAT CHAOTIC QUESTION PERIOD AND THE DEBATE OVER THE DECRIMINALIZATION OF SOME HARD DRUGS. >> WILL THE PRIME MINISTER ACCEPT THE BCNDPs DEMANDS TO RECRIMINALIZE THOSE DRUGS. >> Rosemary: TRUDEAU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHICH LED TO THIS. >> WHEN WILL WE PUT AN END TO THIS WACKO POLICY BY THIS WACKO PRIME MINISTER. >> Rosemary: POILIEVRE WAS TOSSED FROM THE HOUSE AND HIS CAUCUS FOLLOWED. WHAT ARE TO BE MADE OF THE CONSERVATIVES' POLICIES AND WHAT WILL BE THE RESULT OF IT ALL? CHANTAL HEBERT, ANDREW COYNE, AND ALTHIA RAJ JOINS US NOW. CHANTAL, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE DISMISSAL OF MR. POILIEVRE AND EVERYONE WHO WALKED OUT? >> AND ALSO THE PRIME MINISTER'S EFFORT TO TRY TO TROLL BACK EVERY QUESTION OF THE CONSERVATIVES WITH SOMETHING ELSE, I FOUND THE NEXT DAY QUESTION PERIOD WHERE EVERYONE SEEMED TO HAVE TAKEN A VALIUM MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE IN TERMS OF INFORMATION AND DEBATE, AND I FIGURED IF EVERYONE CAME BACK IN THOSE CALMER STATES, I THINK THEY FIGURED THAT IT DIDN'T LOOK AS GOOD AS THEY THOUGHT IT MADE THEM LOOK EXCEPT FOR RAISING MONEY. >> Reporter: AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THE PRIME MINISTER, INSTEAD OF ANSWERING THE QUESTION, WENT AFTER POILIEVRE ON OTHER ISSUES. ANDREW, WHAT DID YOU THINK? >> I THINK THERE WERE ANTICS ON ALL SIDES. NOT EQUAL ANTICS. BUT IN MY BOOK, SOMETHING THAT POILIEVRE SAID THAT WAS WORSE THAN WACKO WAS WHEN HE CALLED THE PRIME MINISTER A LIFETIME RACISM. THERE WAS ONE M.P. WHO WAS CALLED OUT FOR CALLING THE SPEAKER DISGRACEFUL BUT SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF WITHDRAWING IT WHEN SHE WAS TOSSED OUT, AND I THINK THAT INFLAMED THINGS. >> Rosemary: YEAH. >> AND THEN IF YOU WATCH THE TAPE YOU CAN SEE POILIEVRE IS IN ADOLESCENT MODE, SEEING HOW FAR HE CAN TAKE IT. AS AN OFFICIAL, YOU PICK YOUR SPOTS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO INSIST ON EVERY POINT. WHEN HE WAS CALLED OUT FOR THE "WACKO" THING, HE MADE A POINT TO SAY "I REPLACE IT." YOU SEE THE SPEAKER FEELING LIKE HE HAD TO ASSERT HIS AUTHORITY AT THAT MOMENT, AND HE PLAYED INTO POILIEVRE'S HANDS. HE GAVE THEM THE POINT HE NEEDED, HE GAVE HIM A FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITY. >> Rosemary: HE WOULD HAVE HAD THE CLIP WHETHER HE WITHDREW IT OR NOT. THE FACT THAT THE SPEAKER, WHO'S HAD MANY CONFRONTATIONS SINCE HE GOT THE JOB, HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY. >> I DON'T THINK HE HAD ANY CHOICE. BOTH THE SPEAKER, GREG FERGUS, AND THE SPEAKER BEFORE HIM, ANTHONY ROTA, HAD TIMES WHERE THEY'RE FACING SITUATIONS WHERE THE CONSERVATIVES ARE BAITING THEM. ANDREW'S RIGHT ABOUT THE RACIST AND THE SPINELESS, BUT THE SPEAKER HAS LET THE WORD "RACIST" SLIDE MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES. WHEN YOU HAVE THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION NAME CALLING THE PRIME MINISTER A WACKO, AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME, I KNOW THAT CONSERVATIVES ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA SAYING THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. WE DID SOME RESEARCH, AND ONE M.P. REFERENCED THEMSELVES AS A WACKO, BUT NO ONE HAS EVER CALLED ANOTHER PERSON A WACKO. THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE. THE SPEAKER HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO LAY DOWN THE LAW, AND POILIEVRE TRYING TO BE CUTE AND SAY, I REPLACE WITH THE WORD "EXTREMIST," BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE THEM THIS CHANCE TO MAKE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, BUT HE HAD NO CHOICE. THE FIRST PERSON TO THANK THEM WAS THE LEADER OF THE BLOC QUEBECOIS WHO THANKED HIM FOR RESTORING ORDER IN THE CHAMBER. >> Rosemary: UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED THAT WASN'T GREAT FOR THE CONSERVATIVES, THEY WENT BACK TO IT THE NEXT DAY AND IT WAS AN ISSUE AROUND IT. BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT WHERE PEOPLES' LIVES ARE AT RISK AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WHETHER DECRIMINALIZATION SHOULD BE HAPPENING IN B.C. AND NOW THE CITY OF TORONTO. WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THE POLITICS AROUND THAT ISSUE, CHANTAL, ITSELF? >> WELL, FOR ONE, B.C. DID NOT REQUEST, CONTRARY TO WHAT THE CONSERVATIVES ARE SAYING, DID NOT REQUEST THAT THE HARD DRUGS, SMALL QUANTITIES OF HARD DRUGS BE RECRIMINALIZED. THE REQUEST FROM B.C. IS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO AMEND THE EXEMPTION. IT'S A PILOT PROJECT. >> Rosemary: YES. >> SUPPOSED TO RUN FOR THREE YEARS. IT'S NOT THE LAW OF THE LAND, AND WHAT B.C. WANTS IS TO MODIFY IS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU CANNOT BE HAVING THESE DRUGS IN PUBLIC PLACES, CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND, GO DOWN THE LIST. IT HAS BECOME A HUGE ISSUE IN B.C., AND THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ANSWERS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY WILL AMEND IT. THE FACT IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE REAL ISSUE, IT IS PROBABLE THAT THE HOUSING CRISIS HAS MET THE OPIOID CRISIS, SO YES, YOU ARE NOT CRIMINALIZING PEOPLE WHO ARE USING SMALL QUANTITIES BUT MANY OF THEM ARE HOMELESS, AND SO THEY ARE DOING SO IN PUBLIC PLACES. WHAT I FOUND INTERESTING ON THE SECOND DAY IS THE PRIME MINISTER DID NOT SAY HE WOULD SAY NO TO TORONTO AND EVENTUALLY MONTREAL FOR THE SAME EXEMPTION, BUT HE DID SAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAD TURNED DOWN AN EARLY REQUEST FROM THE CITY OF VANCOUVER AND ONLY AGREED WHEN THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT OF B.C. ASKED FOR THAT THREE-YEAR PILOT PROJECT. I.E. IF PREMIER FORD IN ONTARIO, PREMIER LEGAULT DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE, THEN MONTREAL AND TORONTO DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. >> Rosemary: AND PREMIER FORD HAS ALREADY MADE IT CLEAR HE DOES NOT WANT TO GO THERE. ANDREW? >> WELL, IT'S EITHER YOU CHOOSE THE ALBERTA HARM REDUCTION MODEL OR EITHER YOU CHOOSE THE B.C. ALTERNATIVES, SAFE SUPPLY. I DON'T SEE WHY IT HAS TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER. ON THE DECRIMINALIZATION, IT SEEMS THAT IF WE THOUGHT WE COULD JUST DECRIMINALIZE AND LET 'ER RIP, IT WOULD BE THAT SIMPLE, AND WE HAVE NOT PAID ATTENTION BY THE PUBLIC TO THE CONCERN AROUND THAT. I'D APPRECIATE IF THE CONSERVATIVES WOULD LOOK AT IT IN THAT WAY, SAYING WE CANNOT HAVE ANY DECRIMINALIZATION AT ALL, ANY OF THAT LEADS US DOWN THE ROAD TO PERDITION. WHAT'S CLEAR IS DECRIMINALIZATION HAS TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY CONTINUING CONCERN FOR THE BROADER COMMUNITY AND FOR THE ADDICTS THEMSELVES WHO ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES ENTIRELY. >> Rosemary: QUICK 30 SECONDS TO YOU, ALTHIA? >> I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS AT PLAY. IS IT THE BRIGHT CONSERVATIVE STRATEGY? WE MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT IT IS AN EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION STRATEGY IN THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO TIE THE B.C. EXPERIENCE AND PUT THAT AT THE FEET OF THE PRIME MINISTER, THAT IT'S JUSTIN TRUDEAU'S FAULT AND IT'S JUSTIN TRUDEAU'S AGENDA AND THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SMOKING CRACK IN A HOSPITAL NEAR YOU. AND THEN, THERE'S THE GENERAL ISSUE, WHAT IS THE RIGHT RESPONSE, AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH WHAT IS THE RIGHT RESPONSE. AND FRANKLY, PUBLIC PROGRAMME AND PUBLIC POLICY SHOULD BE CONTINUOUSLY LOOKED AT. >> Rosemary: OKAY. THANK YOU, WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT POILIEVRE'S BAIL COMMENTS. POILIEVRE HINTS [♪♪♪] >> Rosemary: PIERRE POILIEVRE STRONGLY HINTED THIS WEEK THAT A CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE WILLING TO USE THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE ON ISSUES LIKE CONVICTED MURDERERS. >> WE WILL USE WHATEVER TOOLS THE CONSTITUTION ALLOWS ME TO USE. >> Rosemary: A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NEVER USED THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE BEFORE. >> DEMOCRATICALLY FOR THE PEOPLE AND THEN THEY CAN MAKE THEIR DECISIONS ON WHETHER THEY THINK MY LAWS ARE CONSTITUTIONAL. >> Rosemary: SO ARE THERE ANY RISKS TO THIS AND EXPLAINING WHY POILIEVRE IS CONSIDERING USING THIS. ANDREW, CHANTAL, AND ALTHIA ARE BACK WITH US. ANDREW, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS? >> WELL, EACH WEEK, POILIEVRE PUTS A YELLOW FLAG OR A RED FLAG FOR THOSE LOOKING TO GET RID OF THIS GOVERNMENT. I NOTE THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS YET TO BRING IN A CHARTER STATEMENT ON ITS ON-LINE HARM'S BILL WHICH IT'S REQUIRED TO DO, SO IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY A STERLING RECORD ITSELF ON THAT. BUT IF YOU'RE TIRED AND WANT TO GET RID OF THE GOVERNMENT, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT ONE OF THE COSTS IF YOU BRING IN THE CONSERVATIVES IS THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IN THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST TIME THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INVOKING IT. YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY ACCELERATING THE DECLINE OF THE CHARTER INTO EFFECTIVELY A DEAD LETTER. IF IT BECOMES ROUTINE TO INVOKE THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE AS WE ARE RAPIDLY ON THE WAY TO DOING IT, IT'S BASICALLY OBEY THE CHARTER UNLESS YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE IT, SO PEOPLE NEED TO BEAR THAT IN MIND. >> Rosemary: BUT IT IS THERE, AND IT'S A TOOL THAT HE CAN USE DEMOCRATICALLY TO HIS POINT. >> I'M NOT SAYING IT'S ILLEGAL, I'M SAYING IT'S UNWISE. >> Rosemary: CHANTAL? >> SO CLEARLY WHAT MR. PIERRE POILIEVRE HAS IN MIND IS TO RESURRECT A NUMBER OF PIECES OF LEGISLATION ON THE LAW AND ORDER FRONT THAT WERE FOUND TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY THE COURTS. THERE ARE A FEW CONSEQUENCES TO THAT, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT IF YOU CAN JUST -- IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STARTS NORMALIZING SUSPENDING RIGHTS THAT ARE IN THE CHARTER, THE CHARTER AT SOME POINT BECOMES A PIECE OF PAPER FULL OF GOOD INTENTIONS. BUT ONE OF THOSE CONSEQUENCES FOR MR. POILIEVRE IS HE WILL BE, AS OF THAT MOMENT, UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE FROM A LARGE SECTION OF THIS CAUCUS THAT IS PRO-LIFE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ABORTION, AND TO USE IT TO GET AROUND WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT ON ABORTION RIGHTS. THE OTHER THING I DON'T THINK HE'S CONSIDERED IS HE WILL BE WALKING HIMSELF POTENTIALLY NO A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT IN THE SENATE FOR HIM TO USE THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE, AND THE SENATE NEEDS TO ENDORSE HIM TO USE IT. >> Rosemary: WE DID ASK HIM THE DAY AFTER HE GAVE A SPEECH TO A GROUP OF POLICE OFFICERS WHO WERE HAPPY TO HEAR IT, WHAT ARE THE LIMITS, WHEN WOULD YOU USE IT, HOW WOULD YOU USE IT, AND HE WOULDN'T ANSWER IT, SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPLIED TO THE THINGS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. ALTHIA? >> WELL, HE DID SAY IF YOU COMMIT MULTIPLE MURDERS, THE ONLY WAY YOU'D GET OUT OF PRISON IS IN A BOX. I THINK IT'S A SHRIEK FROM THE CONSERVATIVES THAT THEY'RE CONFIDENT AND THEY DON'T NEED TO COURT THE SOFT CENTRIST VOTE THAT KEPT MR. HARPER IN CHECK. SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SECRET AGENDA. THEIR AGENDA IS OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE IT, THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND FINALLY, THEY CAN TALK ABOUT IT OPENLY AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TOUCH ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT ABORTION. FRANKLY, THEY DON'T NEED TO TOUCH THE CHARTER TO TALK ABOUT ABORTION AND PRIVATE MEMBERS BILLS TO TALK ABOUT ABORTION, BUT I DO THINK IT HAS IMPACT ON THE REST OF THE FEDERATION. AS SOON AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USES NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE, FOR THE PREMIERS, FREE REIGN. THIS IS A BILL THAT -- THERE IS A BILL THAT DETERS PEOPLE FROM WEARING PUBLIC FACING RELIGIOUS OBJECTS IN QUEBEC, THAT THEY CAN'T WORK FOR THE PROVINCE BECAUSE THEY WEAR A HEAD SCARF, THERE'S AN ABILITY TO COME BACK ON LANGUAGE, BILL 96. YOU THINK BACK ABOUT THE THREE TIMES PREMIER FORD HAS HAD TO USE IT IN ONTARIO, SO IT BEGS THE QUESTION, THE ONLY THING THAT'S THE CHECK ON THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE IS THE PUBLIC OUTCRY. MR. POILIEVRE IS SAYING IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S PUBLIC OUTCRY BECAUSE HE HAS THE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY TO USE THIS. >> Rosemary: BUT THE MAJORITY IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE MINORITY, AS WELL. >> BUT ALSO, THE CHARTER WAS PASSED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH SUPPORT FROM NINE OUT OF TEN LEGISLATURES. ON THE EMERGENCIES ACT OR ON SOME OF THESE ON-LINE REGULATORY BILLS THAT ARE CLEARLY IN MY VIEW OFFSIDE OF THE CHARTER, OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO INVOKE THE CHARTER THEN FOR THINGS YOU CARE ABOUT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO IF YOU'VE BEEN CRAFTILY UNDERMINING IT AND GAINING SUPPORT FOR IT AND MAKING IT A DEAD LETTER IN THE MEANTIME, SO LIKE MINDED CONSERVATIVES NEED TO THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE THEY GO DOWN THIS ROAD. IF THEY'RE THINKING, WELL, PEOPLE ARE BEHIND ME ON THIS, IT'S CERTAINLY THE POPULIST IDEA THAT REGARDLESS OF THE CONSTITUTION OR LAWS OR RULES OR ANY OF THESE SORT OF LARGER CONTEXTS IN WHICH DEMOCRACY IS EMBEDDED, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. >> Rosemary: CHANTAL? >> I GUESS THOSE WHO ARE WORRIED SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT I GUESS QUEBEC'S SUPREME COURT WILL HEAR THE ARGUMENT ON BILL 21. IT'S GOING TO BE ASKED ITS POSITION ON THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE AND ITS BLANKET USE. THAT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING AND FOR THOSE WHO THINK IT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION, THIS IS THE SAME COURT WHO REWROTE ITS STANCE ON MEDICALLY ASSISTED DEATH, SO REWRITES ARE POSSIBLE. IT SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION. >> Rosemary: I HAVE TEN SECONDS, ALTHIA, IF YOU CAN DO IT. >> I AGREE, IT WILL BE INTERESTING, AND I DON'T KNOW. I WISH WE WEREN'T HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. I THINK THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN NORMS THAT NEED TO BE KEPT AND I FELT LIKE WE WILL BE CHALLENGED ALL THE TIME. I'M VERY SURPRISED AT IT, YEAH. >> THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN INVOKING THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE WOULD BE THE SENATE OVERTURNING THAT. AT LEAST POILIEVRE WOULD HAVE TO GET HIMSELF ELECTED. [indiscernible]. >> Rosemary: YES, WE WILL COME BACK TO IT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THAT CONVERSATION. APPRECIATE IT, AND NOW OF COURSE I WILL TURN THINGS BACK TO ADRIENNE IN TORONTO. >> Adrienne: TWO BABIES NAMED AFTER COUNTRY MUSIC LEGENDS ARE BORN ON THE SAME DAY IN THE SAME HOSPITAL. >> >> Adrienne: WELL, THOSE LITTLE CUTIES ARE TWO NEWBORNS BOUND TO BE FRIENDS FOR LIFE. ON THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE JOHNNY CASH. ON THE RIGHT, JUNE CARTER. SO THEY AREN'T RELATED. THEY JUST HAPPENED TO COINCIDENTALLY BE BORN ON THE SAME DAY IN THE SAME HOSPITAL IN ALABAMA. TODAY, THE COUNTRY MUSIC NAMESAKES MAKE OUR MOMENT. >> WHAT A COINCIDENCE. THIS IS JOHNNY CASH DAVIS. >> THIS IS JUNE CARTER CLARK. SHE WAS THREE WEEKS OLD YESTERDAY. >> I GREW UP LISTENING TO JOHNNY CASH, AND THEN, WE THOUGHT OH, JOHNNY CASH, THAT'S A GREAT NAME. THE NEXT DAY, A KNOCK AT MY DOOR, AND THE NURSE CAME IN, AND SHE SAYS DO YOU KNOW WHO THE WIFE OF JOHNNY CASH IS, AND I SAID YES, JUNE CARTER. AND SHE SAID GOOD, BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE AT THE END OF THE HALL THAT HAD A BABY, AND THEY NAMED THEIR BABY JUNE CARTER, AND THEY WANT TO MEET YOU. >> TO HAVE TWO BABIES NAMED THAT, OKAY, BUT THAT THEY WERE BORN ON THE SAME DAY AND IN THE SAME HOSPITAL, I WAS JUST, LIKE, WOW, THIS IS REALLY CRAZY. >> Adrienne: I CAN'T STOP SMILING THAT THEY WERE BOTH DOING THOSE INTERVIEWS IN ROCKING CHAIRS. SO ANOTHER TREAT COMING UP FOR THE MUMS, JOHNNY CASH DIED IN 2003, BUT IN 1993, HE RECORDED SOME UNRELEASED DEMOS. THEY'RE NOW BEING RELEASED AT THE END OF JUNE. >>> FROM ALL OF US AT "THE NATIONAL," THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. YOU CAN WATCH ANY TIME ON THE FREE CBC NEWS APP OR SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL. I'M ADRIENNE ARSENAULT. TAKE CARE. [♪♪♪]
