CAVE DIVERS REACT TO DIVE INSTRUCTOR LOST INSIDE DEEP CAVE

hey what's up guys here for another cave diver react video you have woody and gus and today we're going to be reacting to um i think a video that is a good reminder of why if you're not trained to do cave diving you should probably not go cave down definitely 100 should not go cave diving this is uh unless you're with an instructor this is a very very uh unfortunate video um it was posted to youtube a couple months ago and the person who posted it removed it within like an hour or something like that it was only live for a very very short period of time um i don't know if it was taken down by youtube or if it was taken down by the original by the author of it i just remember that i shared the link with my other cave diving buddies and when they clicked on it it was gone already he said like the video is now private or something like that uh or it was deleted completely but somebody managed to snatch this thing so i've been hunting for it for like two months really wow yeah until i found someone who actually gave me access to the video and we're going to react to it so you made a really interesting comment which was unless you're trained or you're with an instructor don't go into a cave a cave dive instructor that's what i was going to say a cave diving instructor because yes this video shows an open water instructor i don't know going into okay that's like nothing being zero and before we go into the video i want to show this this is caveatless.com i want to give them a shout out cave atlas is a great website when it comes to learning about caves and you know whether they're dry or wet and they always have super detailed maps of cave systems in this case the events that you will see on the video took place at a cave system uh system called peacock springs which you and i have been on how many times love it yeah i don't know how many times love that place i've only done um the upper caves there so no deeper than six correct when i've dove there yep so at cave atlas if you go into resources uh and you go into the map the system map this thing will open up uh and it's pretty big as you can see pretty detail oh there's woody's room what a funny that opened up right to that woody's room right um but typically where we dive from is from peacock one which is right here the entrance and i'm showing it on the screen so people can see it um if you notice this little numbers in the system woody what is what is that number uh let's see that number is is that distance no that is depth right how deep it is in feet so one of the reasons why we love peacock is because it's shallow shallow in terms of the dives that we do is shallow so if you look at the depth it's like 35 here there's 15 55 53 yeah it's super tiny on your screen uh 45 65 this one right here that is kind of what you're looking at all over 51 68 yeah which makes it a wonderful dive that's feed yeah 20 meters something like that not super deep right it's wonderful we don't go into deco at all when you dive with rebreathers it's great we love uh peacock now and and very little uh current yep right there's no real flow typically no real flow so really easy to swim in and out now peacock has multiple entrances let's just say or sinkholes the main one i would say is called orange grove which is this guy right here orange grove sink love that place love orange grove great to get in and if you notice the numbers continue to be the same 46 60 44 but then there's some big numbers look 130 120. i've never been 140. 172. are those lower a lower level passage like there is something called lower orange growth which is an entrance if you notice this is the one that we normally go to uh it's orange grove we go in the line ties up like around here and then you go in the cave and you know you keep exploring challenge sink is that way whatever um but if you go to the left and there's a bunch of like rocks and branches and whatnot there is an entrance a rocky entrance that will drop you into lower orange grove very tight very advanced dive like last time i was at orange grove i told brian hey brian sinton i'm not moxie certified and all of that should we do lower orange growth and he was like probably not i wouldn't do that not because he didn't think i was advanced enough or whatever but it's because it's pretty tight and really deep right um so anyway this entrance right here lower orange grove really really rapidly becomes very deep 172 140 120 130 very deep kind of circle and then you come up so the premise of this video and why i'm showing this is because open water instructors without dave train without cave diving training with a single tank of air which seems to be nitrox by the way went into lower orange grove wow that's really dangerous i don't know i don't care about the fact that he's an instructor or not as a matter of fact that's one of the biggest things that they say is a lot of these folks think well because i'm a dive instructor i can go cave diving just assume that if you're going cave dive and you're starting brand new all over again that's right it doesn't matter what level of diver you are that's right so here we are let's watch here's one tank one time open circuit so is that a 80 cubic foot tank looks like it so just to put it in perspective one quick reaction would be how far could he go in this cave basically on open circuit rule of thirds isn't even applicable on open circuit you should do rules of six i don't know 50 feet back in the cave maybe maximum you see the entrances they're leaving it behind for couldn't go very far nope i mean not more than 50 feet you could go back probably he shouldn't go anywhere a few hundred feet you shouldn't go anywhere so you can see the entrance into the cave system is that hole right there that's how you use the lower that is lower orange growth yep so he goes into the hole is he is there a line does he have a line on him nope he's going in there with no line right now correct oh boy wow this is such a violation of basic cave diving rule yep no line he's by himself yep you know if he turned around right now you're already lost 100 feet already he hit and he's like you know what let's go deeper by the way not believe he did this we know who this guy is wow really yes i'm not gonna mention any names in this video or post them on the video i think that he's been hammered a lot from this um but look i mean number one he violated the training rule yep number two he violated the guideline rule yes number three he violated the air that's right three out of five broken four is the depth through i don't know what depth level he's trained to and five is highest three lights highly doubt so he's violating all five rules of cave diving correct and he survived 145 completely doubt this guy there's no way as miss train does he he doesn't have mixed cast one single tank so he's north he found a line look found a line somehow this is this is probably that is probably the cave line that you should have been coming in with a line from the surface that's the main tie up of the lower cave correct he violated all five rules of cave diving i mean this is the reaction there's not one rule he just followed within like 20 seconds he violated all five all five are normally if you did violate all five you die actually if you violate any one of them you die well so he violated all five okay so he found a line you would think that that's the main line that's the main line you would think that he should he would probably like let me stay in this line checking in his air right now our computer is deco yep he's checking probably his death he's like i'm gonna go i'm gonna go explore away from the line oh no at 145 feet there's the line he's like i'm gonna go this way yeah he's completely a novice this is so dangerous guys please never ever do what he's doing wow he's going deeper back into this cave on open circuit please tell me the end of this is somehow by miracle he lives and gets out but man he's really really violating so many rules why are you doing this but you know he's an instructor which means he knows everything did somebody not tell him never do this you know you know there was a big sign when he went in the grim reaper cave sign that said if you are not properly trained do not go any further he ventures away from the line like the lion is over there he just ventures away from it i wonder what's down here the reason i'm not having to say much is because it happened at the very beginning turning around 153 feet wow he violated all five rules of cave diving all right here we go oh oh no trim i guess it's kicking 152 he has a taric though so that's good no he's he's this is going to be silted out um yeah who knew who knew that all of those flutter kicks they were not see so well don't work at all inside a cave look at this dude this is really dangerous what he did he has no training whatsoever where is the line the line i have no idea he's lost the line okay there it is but the line doesn't go all the way out you told me nope he doesn't have a line to the exit that's really bad so that'll get him to only to where that line started yep i know he already knows that he's lost you know he doesn't know where to go right now he's like ah okay i'm gonna keep going follow this line uh it goes that way okay okay i got it no he's he's probably already pretty nervous yeah he's not looking back because i bet if he looked back it would be like not only that silted no but i think he knows in his mind right now that oh man you know that after this line ends i don't know exactly where to go i bet he's already thinking that the lion's gone man did he silt it out bad yep uh was it this way i don't know no that's not the hole that i took to come this is so scary if only i had a line to the exit forget i mean if only i was caved i've traded and he's really deep so that he's going through his air very quickly he's at five atmospheres yeah he's like where the hell man i'm telling you i'm actually sitting here and i'm nervous this is like a scary movie to me oh my gosh please find the line oh the line is over remember that the line please find the exit it's really scary silted out he's just moving look at this he's just moving around he has no idea where he's going how did he if this is pure luck if he gets out it's like rolling the dice maybe i'm gonna get out really it's total luck i mean there's not any visibility no line minimal air no cave training and he's not i'd never want to be in this situation everybody this is not caved is that light that he did his life i got excited for a second that he found the hole my reaction is i'm praying for him he's he's just got to have luck the only thing this is why this what gives cave diving a bad name he violated the rules it's not that cave diving in itself is bad because they follow the rules look at the visibility now it's a disaster can you imagine if this light goes up bound the hole wow oh man does he deadline this guy is he gonna make a deco stop from 150 feet no way he has really put himself in danger he doesn't have oxygen tied off at 20 feet come on i'm just saying stop it i want people to hear what should have been planned here he should have oxygen see you on the next dive not no not with not i'm not diving with you on the next dive where's my reaction is just the guy got extremely lucky that he's alive he violated all five rules of cave diving within the first twenty let's review him one more time everybody that's listening number one training if you aren't properly trained in cave diving you don't go so that's already immediately violated that's right guideline always always you're on a line all the way to the surface violated would we agree yep immediately like in the first second he violated absolutely air air management open circuit cave dive and i think is actually rules of sixths one sixth of your air is the farthest you would go back he has 180 cubic foot tank he certainly it doesn't have the proper air to deal with his deco i mean i would have put a hundred percent oxygen at 20 feet so yeah air is violated yeah depth limit he's at 150 feet on air i mean i don't know what he's trained to but if he's not trained on mixed gas meaning that there's helium in his tank you're so narked yeah you're completely narked at 150 feet if you're on air so that fourth rule is violated fifth rule i doubt he had three lights do you think he had three lights based upon the fact that he's violating he owns three lights no let alone have him on the on the dive miracle he survived yeah and it's and he is no training there's no proper trim the whole cave is silted out luck yeah my reaction is do not even think about going into a cave yeah and these are the unfortunate these are the unfortunate situations that happen in cave when people drown why did he post this video to show that he i don't know why he would have posted it he made the dive man he must have been really ridiculed i bet he's taken a lot of heat for this i think that's why he took it down do you think he ever got cave trained after this he should have i mean if you want to go in caves get cave train like we're not i just i don't want people to think that we are here sitting like in our in our high horse being like oh you know we have this training and no one else can can do what we do no everyone can do it you just train go through the training right we're not super human or super diverse we just learn how to do it i just hope after this experience that he got lucky and lived that if he is interested in cave training that he went and said wow i really see why i need to be trained i hope but yeah i don't know who it is so yeah you'll tell me after the video is over you said we know him yeah tell me off camera i'll tell you um yeah very very disturbing when i saw it uh really really bad and again i think that heart is yeah accidents like this when people drown because they do something like this it goes into the statistics as a cave diving death so for people like us when they say like well cave diving is the most dangerous like diving you can do a lot of the deaths in cave diving are by people who are not trained who violate the rules they said they actually say that you can almost always attribute it to one of those five rules that we just stated correct we're violated if you didn't violate one of those five rules you yeah and i don't remember the numbers i think like when it comes to the actual danger of like you're following the rules you're doing everything by the book and the cave just collapses on you like that was your day to die those are like well like two in history or something it's it's not common to die doing cave diving if you're following the rules properly okay good one that's an interesting one yeah scary that was it um so uh yeah i think that next time we should probably go to a more i'm thinking no more we've done a quite a number of cave divers ones maybe let's go to let's go back to open circuit open circuit records some fun ones how about a funny fun upbeat one like i'm worn out from the negativity to recover but uh but people really enjoy these and and uh obviously suggest make suggestions no one suggested this one i've been wanting to do this one myself for a while because you just can't find them but i'm glad somebody um was able to get it before it was gone forever but if you have other suggestions please go ahead and leave a comment below we'll be happy to react to it watch it and react to it um and uh subscribe if you haven't done that already a lot of our viewers you know if this is your please you've been watching like this stuff like on a bench go ahead and hit the subscribe button thank you for doing that we really appreciate it thank you absolutely um other than that we'll have a funny one next time okay good it's been good we'll see you in the next one bye everyone

Channel: DIVE TALK

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Keywords: SCUBA, IANTD, TDI, NAUI, PADI, SSI, Tec Diving, Tec Diver, Tech Diving, Tech Diver, Cave Diver, Cave Diving, Open Water Diver, Scuba Diving, Scuba Instructor, Dive Instructor, Peacock Springs, Cave Diver Reacts, Reaction Video, Lost inside a cave, Underwater Cave, Orange Grove, Lower Orange Grove, Lucky to be alive

Id: v0JuE2wXYZw

Length: 20min 3sec (1203 seconds)

Published: Mon Apr 12 2021