CATFISHED BY KILLER? (Kedarie Johnson)

so today's video is going to be another solved true crime kiss today is part two of the kadari johnson case so if you haven't seen part one you need to go and watch that one before you can watch this one because this one won't make any sense i'll leave it up here in the eye if you want to go watch that one then come right back here and watch this one but before we get into it i just want to let you know that this video is brought to you by nordvpn my personal favorite virtual private network service i have used norvpn for literally years now to protect all of my personal information from people trying to access it online especially in public wi-fi areas when you're using free wi-fi like at the library cafe trains you know you never know how secure that wi-fi network that you're trying to get on actually is it works by making it seem as though you are operating from a different ip address somewhere else in the world and this different ip address that they give you acts as a barrier 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verbally abused for his sexuality and so eventually his mother picked up the family and moved them to iowa and while the bullying still existed and he was still you know having a really rough time at school he was now learning ways to defend himself and maybe not let it get to him as much as it once did but then in march of 2016 16 year old kadari was found laying dead face down in an alley his body covered in bleach his hair pulled out he was beaten gagged suffocated with a trash bag over his head and he had three gunshot wounds to the chest so now police were desperately trying to figure out what had happened to kadari johnson that day what events had taken place during that day to lead to this point so now they're trying to figure out a timeline of events they found out that kadari was actually suspended from school that day and so he decided to go to the local supermarket to use their free wi-fi and do his schoolwork this can be confirmed we do have cctv footage of kadari entering and leaving the supermarket and when he leaves he goes and walks to his friend amari's house and while he's there he confides in amari that he is actually being followed by a red card that is parked outside of amari's house as he's in there and it was just waiting for him to leave again and then about an hour later when kadari did leave amari's home amari watched out of the window as kadari walked down the street and this red car set off and followed him down the street and then around an hour after that kadari johnson would be found murdered in that alleyway and upon hearing that kadari was being followed on the night that he was murdered police ran back to this cctv footage from the supermarket to see if they could see anything to see if this red car was on that footage and it was around the same time that kadari arrived at the supermarket on foot and walked inside that red car also arrived and parked up in the parking lot and the driver of that car also walked in the supermarket now shortly after this another guy arrives at the supermarket this time on foot and he walks inside and meets up with the driver of the red car so now there's two guys in this supermarket it's clear that these two know each other they are friends and they actually end up leaving the supermarket together and both getting in that red car so they probably planned to meet up at the supermarket they never spoke to or interacted with kadari at all in that store they were completely separate from him the whole time and kadari left first and then those two men left afterwards so police decided to go and speak with some of kadari's school friends just in case any of them might know who this red car driver was and through this they actually got an entirely different lead that they weren't expecting to get at all the friends actually told the police that candice had been experiencing a lot of cyber threats on facebook and these had started just a few hours before the murder took place they noticed that a boy named nathaniel had been posting all over candace's facebook wall calling her a [ __ ] threatening to beat her up and these friends honestly had no idea who nathaniel was candice kadari had never mentioned a boy named nathaniel they didn't even mention that she'd been seeing anyone at the time she never you know there weren't any boys in her life as far as they were aware it seemed to come out of nowhere they had no idea who this nathaniel could be and so the friends decided to scroll a little bit further see what else they could see and weirdly enough just a few hours before these threats nathaniel was posting completely different stuff being really nice to candice calling her beautiful calling her my bear so the friends went and jumped in the group chat that they have with candice and they were asking her you know who's nathaniel who is this that's posting all of these things on your wall are you okay and candice just said oh that's my boyfriend and her friends were quite surprised that she'd never told them that she had a boyfriend before candice was a very open person and she always talked about boys that she liked but for some reason this one was a secret but then she explained that the reason she hadn't told her friends was because nathaniel actually wasn't out of the closet yet and so they were keeping it super secretive it was literally just between those two which i mean literally posting on her wall for everyone to see is not keeping it the most secret but so friends accepted candace's explanation of the situation that nathaniel was her online boyfriend that she'd gotten into an argument with then you know things got heated and so he started posting these things on her wall i mean they weren't fully happy with this explanation because they were worried for their friend why was this random boy that they didn't know making threats to their friend that he was gonna beat her up you know they weren't fully happy but they understood the explanation if that makes sense so the friends wanted to do a little bit more digging to figure out who this nathaniel was and as they were looking through all of his profile pictures well they realized that there weren't many profile pictures this seemed like it wasn't a real account this wasn't a real profile it didn't seem genuine and they were worried that candice was being catfished so anyway now police had this information of this nathaniel guy that had been making threats towards kadari right before the murder this was huge and they officially had a suspect however they didn't know who this suspect was because police agreed that this nathaniel facebook page didn't seem genuine it didn't seem like a real person so who was behind the nathaniel facebook page the last messages between candice and nathaniel were literally just a couple of hours before the murder took place he was still threatening her still threatening to beat her up and the last message that candice sent to nathaniel said just chill and this was posted just before kadari left the supermarket that evening and walked home and started being followed by this red car so that's a very concerning time frame could nathaniel have acted on his threats a couple of hours later and killed kadari could that red car that was following kadari could that have been nathaniel so police went to go and speak with amari again who was the last person to see kadari alive the friend's house that he went to that night and she said that she didn't recall kadari bringing up the name nathaniel at all he didn't talk about nathaniel the whole time that he was there however she did remember him bringing up the name lumny now as soon as police heard the name lumny they recognized it they knew who lumney was through previous runnings this was a small town the crime rates weren't horrifically high and so police remember the troublemakers he had a lot of charges for fights for misdemeanors nothing horrifically serious however he was a relatively violent person his real name was actually jorge sanders galvez however he was known as lumny that was his kind of street name so now police actually had a real name linked to this case however they didn't actually know if lumney was connected to kadari's murder or anything because all they knew was that he'd mentioned the name lumny on the night that he was murdered you know how much does that actually mean and so they decided to go and ask every single person that kadari was close with all his friends all his family if they'd heard this name before if kadarian mentioned lumny before and all of them every single one of kadari's friend's family had all heard the name lumne before not necessarily from kadari but just because lumny was just like kadari was a big character in the town he was a pretty well-known guy in burlington he was a few years older than kadari and he was known for different reasons like i said he was a bad boy getting into fights i hate using that terminology but that's kind of what he was known as the bad boy who was always getting into fights he was always on the basketball court he was always seeing a bunch of girls even kadari's older brother cedric he used to play basketball with this guy that's how many people knew him so anyway now police finally have a name and a face of a potential suspect because they know what lumny looks like and so police decide to search him up on facebook and as they were scrolling through his friends list they found that he was friends with a bunch of people that kadari knew you know like mutual friends but he wasn't friends with kadari himself at least he wasn't friends with kadari but he was friends with candice on facebook so lumny was aware of kadari's existence prior to this incident and he was aware that qadhari presented as candice sometimes and he was seemingly good with that he was seemingly good with kadari's gender fluidity if he is friends with his female persona on facebook or at least you would think you wouldn't be friends with someone on facebook if you didn't agree with agree with who they are as a person surely and so this was useful information for police to know so going back to that cctv footage once again there's a lot of back and forth in this case from learning new things from interviews and then going back to this footage to see what was going on on the night that qadhari was killed anyway they were now able to compare what they knew about lumne to the cctv footage these two men that followed kadari into the supermarket that day and they found that the second man so not the red car driver but the guy that arrived on foot and went in to meet the red car driver that was lumny and through this identification they were able to look at a bunch of people that lumney associated with and from that they were able to identify the other guy the red car driver and this guy was called west or at least that was his street name his real name was jaron perham but in this video i'm just gonna keep referring to them as lumny and west so here we see lumny and west leaving the supermarket just after kadari did they hop in the red car that west drove and they went in the same direction that kadari walked in and from there the camera loses them and we don't know anything past that point of course from the account of the maori we can guess that that was the red car that was parked outside of the house waiting for kadari to leave so police did their best to try and track down some information about alumnae and west and they actually found that they lived over three hours away in missouri however they would often come to burlington in iowa to party pick up girls all that kind of stuff they spoke with a girl in burlington that claimed to be one of lonnie's girlfriends one of yeah and she said that whenever lumnee and west would come over to burlington they would stay at this other girl's house and her house was kind of the party house she said that lumnee would be there almost every week he would bring girls back there he would throw parties there he would do drugs out of there so police found out the address of this party house and they went straight there to see if they could speak to either lonely or west however when they arrived and they knocked on the door no one answered so they went round to the back of the house i believe all of the windows were covered in this house says a lot about what goes on inside um so police couldn't actually see anyone inside there they were knocking on the windows no answer still and just as they were leaving police actually noticed that there was a garage on the premises and so they thought brilliant if we can see a red impala in that garage then it means that lumny and west are here somewhere so they walk over to the garage and they find a window on the back wall and they go over to look into the window however there's no red impala but what they do see through that window is much more incriminating than the red car on the ledge of that window there was a box of trash bags those exact same kind of trash bags that we used to put over kadari's head the one that was balled up in his mouth there were a special kind of trash bag that had pink drawstrings like i said that we used to tie around kadari's neck now this could have been a coincidence i'm assuming a lot of households do have those particular type of trash bags they're quite common however this was a place where they were looking for the suspected killer and now they're finding something that was also found at the crime scene police decided that this was enough for them to go and get a search warrant because they wanted to look inside that party house to see if anything was in there so within a couple of hours police had that warrant they were back at the house still no one's in there it's seemingly like abandoned and they let themselves in and they're looking around and it was a mess inside as i'm sure you would expect from a party house but what they found upstairs it seemed like a mess but it was actually much more than what meets the eye in one of the bedrooms they found a pair of black and white night trainers just thrown on the floor and if you remember when kadari's body was found he was found without his shoes and going back to that supermarket cctv footage it seemed as though he was wearing black and white nike trainers on the day that he died something else that the police officers noticed in this bedroom was a navy and gray backpack and they knew that qadhari's backpack was also missing so they went over to look inside this backpack and literally one of the first things this detective pulls out of the bag was kadari johnson's school id confirming that this was his backpack so this could mean one of two things either these items his shoes and his backpack were stolen from kadari at the scene of the murder or kadari had been brought back to that house where he'd voluntarily taken off his bag and his shoes in the bedroom and then something happened that meant he was taken to that alleyway where he was murdered but either way this confirmed that lumny and west were involved in this somehow they must have been the last people to see kadari before he was murdered because he had his shoes he had his backpack when he left amari's house and when that red car started following him again so now police were desperate to find these two men and a warrant was put out for their arrest all the police forces in that whole state as well as their home state of missouri were notified to keep an eye out for these two men and it wasn't long until they were actually found in missouri the red impala was spotted as a police car was driving along the road one day and he signaled for this red impala to pull over so that he could go and speak to them but as soon as the driver noticed that he was being signaled over by police he sped up and led the police on a high-speed chase this went on for some time until eventually the driver of the red impala ended up crashing into a police car of all of all things to crash into when you're on a police chase he crashed into a police car so when the car crashes the driver doesn't just give up at that point he actually gets out and starts running on foot so now these police officers that have just been in a high-speed car chase have to get out and start running out of their vehicles too to go and get this man eventually they find him they tackle him and they cuff him and arrest him and the driver of this car was west and there's no sign of lumnee anywhere there wasn't another passenger in this car west isn't saying anything he doesn't say where lumny is and sir again another warrant is put out for lumny's arrest and it wasn't long until he too was found but not before another high-speed car chase as well so west had one then lumney had one they both eventually got caught and they were brought into the police station so now the police had both of these men's vehicles including the red impala they decided that they were going to search them and on a search of the red car they found a revolver ballistics tests were carried out on this revolver and while they can't 100 confirm that you know this was the murder weapon because they can't however the shots that were done with this revolver that was found in the red car made almost identical bullet wounds to the ones that were found on kadari so probably the murder weapon so now both men are in the police station for questioning they're both separate they don't know what each other are saying and one of the first questions that both men are asked is do they know kadari do they know what happened to kadari and both of them said they had no idea who kadari johnson was which we already know that this is a lie because lumny was friends with candice on facebook of course he knew who kadari was some people think it's possible that maybe he didn't connect kadari and candice but a lot of people me included think that that's just impossible because they looked the same just in different clothes and you know with the hair tied up maybe he looked very similar both ways he had the exact same face it was you know it was still canary but he was just being called candice just because his name changed didn't mean that his whole appearance did a full 180. but as police looked into this a little bit further into the fact that the two of them were friends on facebook they decided to give lumnee the benefit of the doubt because they found that candice and lumney had never actually privately interacted on facebook once they'd never messaged each other never posted on each other's walls never commented on posts or pictures never liked anything the only interaction that these two had was that they were actually in the same group chat there was one group chat out of so many candice was in so many group chats on facebook and this was one of them that lumnee happened to be in so maybe that was where the ad came from the reason that they added each other was just because they had this mutual chat maybe it was just an ad right at the beginning that the chat was made and then they just never really spoke to each other since then so you know maybe it was easy for lumne to forget who candice was or maybe not think that candice was kadari who knows so anyway the question is continued both men were asked separately what they were up to on the night of kadari's murder so west's version of events was that he'd been to the supermarket with lumny that night and just as they were leaving they'd seen this beautiful woman standing in the doorway of the supermarket on the phone this was kadari johnson the men saw her they thought she was really attractive and they thought that she was a biological woman it seemed at this point in west's questioning that he didn't know that this was kadari or at least he was pretending not to know that this was kadari he thought that this was a biological woman standing in the doorway and both the men thought that she was beautiful and so they decided to pursue this woman so the men went and got in their red car and they watched as this woman started walking across the parking lot and so they decided to drive the car up alongside her roll the window down and just ask her you know how she was doing did she want to come along with them did she want to get in the car and this woman accepted and got inside the car west said that this woman was on her way to a friend's house to go and pick something up and so they offered to drive her to this friend's house and they also offered to stay outside and give her a lift back home so they drove this woman to her friends we know that this was kadari going to amari's house these versions of events do kind of get a little bit foggy in my brain i can't quite make sense of them i'm sure in the actual interview tips this made a little bit more sense because to me this wouldn't make sense as to why kadari just started walking down the road on her way from home from amari's when this red car was outside waiting to take her home again west says that later on they ended up picking this woman back up and he could tell that this woman and lumney were getting on really well and sir west said look i'll leave you guys alone just drop me off at my friend's house and then you two can have the car you can go back to the party house you know you can do whatever you want to do alone so west says that he went to this friend's house and he left the red car with the two of them and that was all he saw of lumne and that woman that night so police go and speak to this friend that west claims he was with that night and this friend says i was never with wes that night i never saw him so west's statement was alive meanwhile in lumbny's questioning his version of events is entirely different to west's he's still denying ever seeing or speaking to kadari or you know a woman or anyone he says that none of this happened they never picked anyone up that night he's still denying even knowing kadari at all and he's even saying in his interview that he doesn't associate with blank and he uses a homophobic slur repeatedly he's constantly saying that i don't associate with blank i mean it certainly sounds like he knows kadari or at least knows him well enough to have formulated this horrific opinion how can you not know kadari but know enough about him to call him a homophobic slur yeah if you don't know him wouldn't you not know his sexuality anyway the two men both have very contradicting stories and police believe that both of them are lying but since they have the physical evidence of the gun the cctv footage the trash bags being found in the garage police didn't really need a confession to say that these men were guilty however right now i mean it looks like both of them are guilty but the case is a little bit wobbly they wanted a few more pieces of evidence to make it concrete enough that when they took it to court it would be a slam dunk case and they'd just get the boys put straight in jail so they needed to find some more bits of evidence so now that they had them arrested and in police custody they could seize their mobile phones and they tried to track both of their mobile phones on the night that kadari was murdered now they couldn't get a hit on lumnis it looked like he'd turned it off or left it at home or something however west's fern was on the whole time and they actually managed to track it to the exact alley that kadari johnson's body was found in and west was there around the time that kadari would have been murdered around half 11 that night and that was the last little piece of evidence that police needed and they charged both men with murder and now this was to go to trial so west jaron perham tried to argue with his defense team that he hadn't had any part in this murder and that it was all lumny of course with the foreign evidence he couldn't say that he wasn't there at all because they had proof that he was in the alley as kadari was being murdered but he did say that he was an innocent bystander and it was all lumny jorge sanders galvez that did all of these things to kadari that tortured him that put the bag over his head that shot him that dragged him into the grass now the jury didn't believe this at all and i doubt any of you believe it i personally don't believe it and instead despite both men pleading not guilty to all of their charges both of them were found guilty both men were sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole so they will never be getting out of jail they're behind bars for the rest of their life however that doesn't close this case entirely there's still a lot of questions most of all why why did kadari have to be killed why did he have to be tortured and killed this wasn't just a murder there was a lot more to this kadari's family and friends have no explanation as to why there's also a lot of questions along the way from the investigation such as that nathaniel facebook page what was all that about was that linked but why kadari what could kadari johnson's 16 year old kadari johnson have possibly done to these two older boys to make them want to do this to it the most likely motive that i think and that kadari's family thinks his friends think the police think is that this was a hate crime and that kadari was targeted primarily and only because of his sexuality and or his gender expression there's even evidence for this when you go back to that interview that lumny had with the police where he kept saying that he doesn't associate with blank homophobic slur kadari's family are really trying to get this case recharged as a hate crime which i believe would actually put the men alumni and west up for the death penalty but the only thing standing in the way of them charging the men for a hate crime is that exact interview where lumny was calling kadari all these homophobic slurs now i don't know exactly what happened i couldn't find this in my research but i believe something went wrong with the way that the officers conducted that interview whether they didn't read him his rights properly or at all or you know lumnee claims that he didn't understand what was going on at that moment he didn't understand that that was a proper interview that could have been used and caught and you know it was found that the officers didn't carry it out to a t and for that exact reason that interview where lumny was saying all these things is now inadmissible in court it can't be used as evidence and that is the only evidence that they had to say that this was a hate crime that was the only concrete evidence where one of these two men is showing hatred towards kadari due to his sexuality or his gender expression that was the only physical example that they had and without such concrete evidence as a literal video of him saying these things the men can't be tried with a hate crime there's just not a solid enough case even though everyone can see it but there's just not enough concrete evidence without that tip his family are campaigning to be able to use that tip in court to be able to get this retried um hopefully all goes well with that and that they are able to use it i just think that the fact that this case which in my opinion is so obviously a hate crime and it's not being charged as such is such a slap in the face not only to kadari johnson that 16 year old boy that went through the most horrific thing but also to the whole lgbtq plus community and to every single person that has ever lost their life or being attacked or being bullied or been made to feel like they are inferior due to their sexuality or the way that they express themselves this is a disservice to that whole community especially to kadari johnson so many people just like kadari are murdered every single year for very similar reasons and the fact that that has not been legally recognized and acknowledged and charged and those boys aren't being sentenced for what they did to kadari then to me that means that justice isn't fully served and that's also what it means to the rest of the community so the official police theory as to what happened last night of course we have no explanation as to why this happened to kadari so this is police's theory and that was that they picked up kadari believing that he was a biological woman they believe that both men not just lumny both men lumny and west took kadari back to the party house to have a threesome however when things got going they realized that kadari had male genitalia and the two men lashed out and they started beating kadari in that home and that explains why his shoes were still there why his backpack was still there they believe that after they beat kadari they then put him in that red car and drove him out this alleyway which was far away from his own home and they drove there with the full intention to murder him to shoot him and kill him and try and cover it up they even took a bottle of bleach trash bags everything with them knowing that they were gonna do this now what happens next is unclear like once they arrive at the destination what actually happens what they do to kadari is unclear to this day it's still debated whether there was sexual assault involved in this case of course there's absolutely no way to know due to the bleach if there was any of their you know semen or any kind of dna like that on kadari it was gone because of the bleach however the way that kadari's body was found his bra are exposed his some sources say that his genitalia was exposed some sources don't mention that so i'm not 100 sure whether that is true bear in mind maybe it was the case that he was sexually assaulted or maybe this was part of the humiliation maybe that was the reason for this murder but a lot of people that look into this case find it very hard to believe that these men picked up kadari who was presenting as candace and they didn't recognize her lumne is literally friends with candice on facebook kadari candice is one of the biggest figures in the hall of burlington you know everyone recognized him the fact that the police officers when they went to the scene the fact that they recognized kadari even when he was dead shows how easily recognizable he is as a person you know and kadari's closest friends actually have their own theory as to what happened in this case and it actually relates back to that nathaniel facebook page that facebook page even though police knew about it and they read the threats that were given to kadari just hours before his murder somehow police still disregarded that facebook page they don't think it's part of this case which seems ridiculous to me kadari's friends believe that nathaniel is lumny is jorge sanders galvez and they believe that he was running that facebook page because he was in a relationship with kadari johnson and he didn't want anyone to know so he would use a fake profile to interact with kadari so that none of his friends had to see this is backed up because in one of the interviews that one of his close friends gave to police right in the beginning and for some reason this also wasn't used in cart at all but one of kadari's friends told the police that they believed that kadari and lumny had a sexual relationship a casual sexual relationship this was a repeated thing and the friends think that maybe at some point lonnie feared that candace was gonna tell was gonna tell people about their relationship and he switched on him maybe he felt that the only way to preserve his reputation and his pride was to kill kadari before he could tell anyone about their relationship and maybe that's why kadari was scared to leave amari's house when that red car was following him because he knew exactly who was in that car he knew that it was nathaniel alumni as nathaniel who had been leaving threats on his facebook page all night and he knew that lonnie was there to act on those threats bear in mind that none of these claims that lumny had a sexual relationship with kadari or that lumny was running the nathaniel facebook page none of that is confirmed none of that is true that is all theories that i'm just relaying to you guys i'm not claiming any of them to be true i'm not confirming any of them those are just theories that i've read on the internet and things that kadari's own friends think but again there's no proof so i definitely think that even though this case is closed now they absolutely should have tried to trace that nathaniel facebook page further than they did i don't know for what reason they just ditched it because i feel like that would have potentially held a lot of answers if they would have traced that facebook page down and found the ip address and the owner and you know why didn't they do that why didn't they do that i feel that would have held a lot 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Length: 39min 38sec (2378 seconds)

Published: Sun Jan 31 2021