Card Game Necromancy: Dune CCG! (how to play????????????????????)

okay here we are so now you've gotten your history lesson like yeah that's that sets the stage now we weren't gonna do a trainees vs. heart Conan but looking through the heart Conan deck it became very clear to me that I had not actually ever touched the her Conan deck and there were many cards in there that did not make any sense so but I do have the Fremen and Justins gone sorry flavourful for the to fight the friend I think the Fremen probably would have fought the Atreides they would have yeah if you know things hadn't happened so a bit anyway yeah they were here it's not necessarily a dune spoiler free stream yeah we haven't seen the movie yeah probably to watch the movies is great that was the prologue to the movie in the director's cut yeah I don't I love that that's some good eighties narration yeah what's it subdue was originally published in 1965 and that is a 1965 plot right oh yeah where things are like needlessly complicated and so yeah it's just a great just that just a great bit of like pulpy science fiction so now we think we know how to play somewhat but we will be referring to the rule book now um what we have read passages of this rule book to you Gregory McMahon's deployment is certainly a possibility yeah we did want to get like a logo or something drawn up for that yeah and that'd be pretty cool right right good just uses like a title bumper or something like that for this now what I did not realize is that I was giving you a preview of one of the most infamous rule books in all of card game history apparently this book's this rule books fun possibility is legendary okay they when they came out with like the second and third set they actually made a better rule book because this one is so dense yeah so um and Justin I have both like we've done some research into this I like I had I think I was reading a different rule book it was definitely that one yeah I read part from a different rule book but this one this one's filled with some choice bites I I think I read through the whole one that I had today and I still didn't understand anything about the game yeah like anything so it's it's it seems completely alien to the way card games are played it's yeah that's true we both actually start with a lot of resources but we compete against each other we can we can arrange an audio book Nathan to read yeah that'll be a 15,000 mushroom man's yeah yeah I've got me how long it takes to fall see I have that's actually just tray of ASMR the brain I actually have a choice bit picked out for when the time is right I am looking forward to this because I like when I found when I stumbled across it in the rule book I like rush downstairs that said Justin you you're not gonna believe this look at this but anyway so we do know the basic set up so that rule book oh that's a good bet safe bet you have two decks in this this is the house deck and this is the Imperial deck I think right so that's correct okay you also have your home world which is actually built into the box which I hate so clunky yeah this is like this is a classic five rings publishing thing right here in legend of the Five Rings your stronghold was your box so let's take a look at all this yes it just like I have a headache I've just been looking through the cards just slightly and man is it unreadable yeah and I guess we can't could actually use this time cuz surprisingly a lot of the cards in this game do actually have uniform values so we can we can't address those right now the five up here on Khalid m's that's that's the cost now you actually start with your homeworld in play but throughout the course of the game your home world may be subdued which means that you will lose access to it but you can bring it back and the five casting cost basically tells you how much you're gonna have to pay to get the card back now on the side here are I think those are called talents and there are six talents in the game right there the gun the gun is actually battle talent is what that means and will approach the other talents when we get there now the three down here in the corner is the command value of a card and that's essentially how many talents or sorry how many cards can be attached to that card and apparently a vast portion of this game is attaching like battalions and stuff stuff to cards so that's how many cards can be attached to a card you've got your text and the center there so Caledon just a little bit hard to read but says engaged to produce five cellairis to your treasury um so engage and disengage is this games tap and untap the height of the archives pretty maybe really good and in the corner we've got the resistance value so Calvin's resistance value is five and what that means is how much damage something can take before it becomes subdued so Calvin has to be attacked basically for five damage for Caledon to be taken out so and the upper left-hand corner sorry in the upper right hand corner is the actual affiliation yeah which is relevant as apparently you can make decks that are cross affiliation in this game it's just kind of expensive now both players actually you've got a tin card Imperial deck right and this is like locations and human characters from the books and whatnot and they this gets shuffled before we start and we actually both start with dune in play but subdued so it starts down here so the way subdued cards work is there they're facedown they do nothing each turn they accumulate a token called a deferment token yes and during your turn you can play the difference in the number of deferment tokens and the cost of the card to turn that card face-up so if something is subdued you can get it back you have time it doesn't seem like when was this game released in 1997 97 97 yeah so still early generation I'd say this is probably like second generation CCGs so when they they were definitely being experimental yeah I think this is like you had games that were trying to separate themselves from the pack basically yeah I mean this is not this game would not come out today no nothing probably even resembling this there's not like as we all go through it just like the terminology and other aspects of this game are not particularly intuitive though I would say alright so we've both shoveled our Imperial decks we shuffled our house decks and both players start with three cards from their Imperial deck and this is your Imperial assembly and these are our cards that we can deploy during our turn basically and these are not public knowledge but we can look at the cards at any time okay all right now we both start with 20 salaries which are the money in this case some dice to use on a d20 yeah and I'll try to get a nice contrasting color here maybe it will show up on camera maybe it won't Oh bliss enough we don't have large dice yeah unfortunately not very large dice you just have to take my word for it and then we both start with ten favored as well I'm trying to see if there's a d12 in here Shaul oh there's no no actual d12 from what I can see well jeez another D tween I could use two ketones with that line or a t10 can you go above yeah you can go above okay okay so I've got ten favor all right now we also have a spice bank that's we're actually gonna use amber for that because that's kind of um yeah it makes sense for our stream now the spice bank starts with two spice plus three for each player in the game now for what I've read and seeing doon is actually better as a multiplayer game than it is necessarily on one on one right but we and we're not gonna find a third person at this time so anyway so we're gonna start with eight in the bank now spice has a variable value throughout the game and as there are is that as there is more or less spice in this central bank the value is going to go up or down so the fewer spice there is the more valuable it is the more spice there is the less valuable it is and both of us can purchase spice based off of its current rank or current value right now the exchange rate is three I'm looking at the desire for the game oh yeah he's Wikipedia entry is very small okay all right he worked on role-playing games primarily ah okay he's worked for Star Trek The Next Generation role-playing game Arya okay canticle of the moon Manan myth okay yeah yeah he then you lack worked out last year from when his cipher purchased the company Intel's of one okay no later got jobs at upper deck okay after he leaving the game industry he became an event planner okay alright the other person the other designer does not have a Wikipedia entry okay so alright well yep if you're watching this dream last night yeah okay so yeah all right now we got the assembly we need to draw opening hands we'll see seven cards ya believe its own so you draw seven cards to make up your play hand no right who knows what a good hand in this game constitutes who knows oh one last thing Justin and I both gain five dollars five Solari that we can just spend how we want before we start okay so it actually it makes sense for us to keep that information secret because our initiative for the first turn would be based off of our favor but we may not be able to influence right like to spice with a favor it's yes to Solari for one favor okay we can buy spice for the current rate which is three or you can just pocket the money okay so what I'll do is I'll have I've got three dice okay and the first I will be the number of spice that I'm gonna buy second dye is going to be the number of favor I'm gonna buy okay and the third is going to be the amount of Solari that I will put into my treasure does that make sense yes all right so keeper said and if it's a nonsensical value if it's like a six that's mean meaning of them okay all right okay so spice favored Solari yeah okay okay so I'm gonna buy no spice so you're getting one spice one favor yeah I'm gonna get one spice I'm gonna get two favor and one Solari so I have twenty-one Solari okay so actually I'll do this the other way around the d20 will be my favor and then the d-10 set is going to be my Solari so I got 21 okay all right seems like slower I could easily go above 20 yeah yeah especially like based off of some of the cards Alayna I do think the first turn we're going to like spend a lot of money probably okay so now it might have been Bears before game yeah probably the do-more game is very good yeah it's way more Decker than this in recess of time I was gonna say yeah I was gonna predict because it was like made in like nineteen eighty years yeah it's like it was an Hill game and it was made like was it I think it was made before the movie yeah so I think I think that is correct all right so all right now what do we do 1979 1979 there you go yeah yeah I'll wait some time we do the opening interval okay all houses simultaneously disengage face okay that's where you on one tap yep yeah all right deferment phase so is deferment each player may assign a single deferment token to each of their subdued cards so we just have some dude subdued right now you're facedown assembly cards are not considered subdued right and must not be assigned so we each get one on dude all right and then initiative phase each player declares their current favor to determine initiative so proceeding from highest to the lowest each player is assigned an initiative rank according to their current favor but the highest favor or initiative Rank 1 and the second rank two and so on if there's ever a tie we've actually flipped the top part of our deck and whichever one is the highest capital cost becomes the breaks the tie and we keep doing that until the tie is broke basically okay all right so but I have 12 favor you have 11 so I am first in the initiative now we can actually play if you have any initiative tactics and tactics and ventures are like grade cards they're gonna look like this I don't think so so that's a tactic and adventure and you'll see where it says tactic adventure on them they look exactly the same great but that's where that's where you find out what what the actual type of the carnot so anyway but it would say though said exchange and declaration that's essentially when in the game you could play them so if you had one that said initiative that this is the time where we would play that alright ok so I don't have any initiative once also the wind condition to the game rate is during your turn you have 10 twice yes yes and how we actually win the game right yeah how we actually win the game you have to have 10 favor and you have to have 10 spice that you gain favor so you can once per turn spin Solari to gain favor okay it cost you to Solari to gain one favor okay but your favor can go up and down throughout the term of the game as well so alright let that spice flow all right so I am [Music] going to so now it's the house interval right yes yeah so you have a bunch of things that you can do in an unrestricted manner so you can petition an assembly card the end deploy a house card you can place the subdued event you can deploy a subdued card you can deploy a program you can engage a card or you can request admission to the High Council which is the victory the victory condition in limited ones are deploy a subdued event limit one Imperium and one doom or just favor limit one purchase one point per two Solari max five points yes you could spend up to ten to get five favor yeah home exchange to buy spice you buy maximum three spice and turn yeah or you could sell spice um so if you you could sell spice and gain three suwari okay you can't both buy and sell in the same turn okay either yeah you choose one or the other Marikina che writes Long's rod right and 1-chome right yeah and so essentially all that means is that lawns rod rights I believe are the fight rights since I think so yes and the tow more like intrigue yes our assembly and you're gonna target different things based off of the type of right that you're using so okay if none of this makes sense to you good don't worry yeah because it doesn't make much sense to us either around with you all right so I am going to believe I can engage my homeworld to add three soul aureus of my Treasury yeah you just do that yeah so that's a boom we have taken a game action okay the game we're officially underway yeah all right so engage a card is an action yes yep all right sweet this is a valid action check the health - I could pay six and put doom into play right now I'm gonna believe do I have any benefit for doing that says engaged a transfer up to three spice assigned to a target desert you govern to your court i govern no deserts currently so there's not much point in doing that alright i believe i am going to spend two to play a house agent just to have some sort of board presence now house-agent you become the god emperor in this game you can play the patter sha Emperor he is an actual card so all right let's house agent now he's got to intrigue justice doesn't have anybody in play but I could use this guy to try to use intrigue to take out one of Justin's characters if I wanted to he also has the ability to counter during an intrigue right essentially counter means being able to block so if Justin we're trying to send assassins after one of my guys I can put the house agent in the way he's got one command value so I can attach something to him at some point and he is not aligned with any faction so I don't really have to worry about that right now now I think I am going to [Music] I think I'm gonna petition and petition it seems like one of the most dynamic parts of the game [Music] Lita and second doozy yes you can play Ledo oh is that look and we've read you've what radians I'm sorry you think you've tapped us out then maybe a split ever like the fifth book behind that yeah is that what's his name son Paulson Paulson yeah okay yeah all right see okay so I am going to petition to play so this is so what's gonna happen is I'm gonna flip up a card and Justin and I are gonna start bidding and Justin can essentially outbid me to stop me from playing something here and so and if Justin stops me from playing something I can't play anything else for the rest of this turn nine from your hand uh uh I can't petition any mo get nervous yeah I can still play stuff from my hand but I could no longer petition anymore so I think I will actually start with Johnny so now I start the bidding and I can bid up there oh yeah here's Johnny not the greatest art in the world but I think this is like actually pretty Stan that kind of looks like her character in the movie it looks pretty standard for 1997 yeah I would say for like photorealistic our Lesley Webber we bit sure all right so we're bidding on Shawnee here now sue I have to start the bidding at four if I say five yeah does it get put back in your assembly yes okay right I will say five okay now our limits on bidding at this point are the mouth salaries that we have you men bid on one yeah it became that kind of dream pretty quick yep okay so I am just gonna jump right to seven you can have seven seven chains okay so I will spend seven Solari now because Shawnee is in my faction I can actually spin favor if I wanted to to reduce her cost okay so that is a way to kind of offset the bidding there all right so we're bringing Shawnee in to play Shawnee has intrigue and Shawnee has dual link and she says that she may counter during duels targeting freeman personalities sorry personas and when countering she gains +1 resistance so she's harder to kill so she could basically jump in the way of somebody else so right I believe um that Shani is actually going to pick up a Chris knife so that's gonna cost me too and so it makes it so that she gets +1 force and gains +1 resistance during dueling rights so she can only have one card attached to her now so I can't give her anything else but she's ready to start knifing people all right I am [Music] going to I don't know when do we refill is that during the term yeah okay all right so I want to bring in I may want to save some money to did you up on some of your stuff I think that's what I'll do here right now I'll just save some money debt how many cards do we draw you draw up a seven draw up to seven okay so I want to play anything that I can [Music] you it says fill your hands the hand limit okay see ya then I definitely want to place yeah all right so I will play long cold nights this is a oh wait this is a tactic declaration I think this must be played if it's a declaration I think it can only be played when I am declaring an attack on you and you don't have any targets currently you know any targets good declaration initiative phase I think it's initiative phase declaration the tactic or event is this is a tactic tactic declaration tactic then right that happens during declaration during the initiative phase then rug yard well that's fine I'll hang on to who knows who knows may come in handy all right yeah so I think I'm done here I think I want to save some money to force you to bid more yeah did you see that I did post this rules document I'm looking at in discord if anyone wants to like look at that that's just like a breakdown of how a turn a single turn or a single round flows yeah oh I'm sorry oh yeah okay so now I will now read what happens when you end your interval to turn your house interval in this game okay to indicate the completion of your house interval you may turn the palms of both your hands towards the ceiling and say I honor you with my water and make a spitting gesture towards your towards the table no vulgarity or actual spitting please if you do each of your rivals must respond your gift is a blessing of the river your gift is a blessing of the river failure to respond incurs a loss of one favor so there you go now I have ended my turn and it is now Justin's chair okay yeah that's real this is serious no no this is made of this in the rules probably where's that it's this is it's this paragraph right there okay even better than her I roleplay so it's it's I bless you with my water I know yeah yes I honor you with my water you with my water okay I got okay and then you say that the other person says your gift is a blessing of the river look at so there you go got it all right I understand all right I was that was the part that had me super excited because it's a this is an amazing rule so pretty good rule all right so I guess jus stuff during house interval so I'm gonna play a subdued event um so when you play events they so like any event in your hand can only be played subdues occur yes yes events are like different and the events like take several turns to actually develop so so so you place a subdued event there and then play another should be Deven there okay so they don't cost anything any plans subdued there's they said face down but I can like deploy them later I guess I could like pay their cost now if I wanted to I don't want to but I think you can I'm just like gonna scroll through the rules real quick yeah events or we get Vince well the good news is it doesn't tell you I think anything about events that's great so we do have a pronunciation guy I will I will engage to produce five solares in my Treasury like a cat engage Khalid an here and we go to 25 salaries a lot of salaries there these I have such my brain I know yeah man I know you okay bad tuned my deck once you put once you put somebody into play Chinese gonna stab him with a knife yeah I know okay so I will please house-agent nah you're gonna what kind of spy for - nobody - we can't trust anyone is definitely pretty proud of our dad also you just spit all over groans cards I will bid on harvesting contract Nikesh harder Doon contract engaged to produce XLR in Treasury X equals the total number of deserts spice harvesters and Kerry Elias governed by your rivals now Kerry all's carry else yeah you'll have it I have a homeworld Fife okay yeah so I got that harvesting contract okay I'll bid for or yeah yeah he can have it for for oh yeah alright okay harvesting contract great I will spend for yeah I'll use it reach nothing was this dear I honor you with my amber a bit on gurney blow nose all over the table he is an ally vassal officer when participating a duel or battle in which there are code and participants grand jury it's post you force and during its blissful and resistance their game I see why you were so eager for me to play house heart Conan I just thought I was the mattock honestly I like a little bit too too for granny I will bid three I will go for I will bid five over six I will bid seven and for green you can you can firm down forceps okay so I actually subtract his cost from that total so unit 5 I speak I pay five and nothing he doesn't do anything is this a persona yes okay yes okay so it is an a which is a persona it's alright a character either an ally or aide so you all right I will give I'll give this house agent the Atreides battalion okay so pay too the a-train's battalion says assigned to a target persona or fief battle tactic engagement if target participates in a battle right engaged to include as they produce been they can like okay yeah I guess I will also attach and trades battalion to Khalid an okay same thing the stupid box yeah so if I attack Caledon with a with an army that battalion can defend mall so getting into the house battalion which is a similar thing but like slightly cheaper but slightly cheaper yet it does require that you actually have a gun which Caledon does yeah I didn't know what that meant yeah that that is like their requirements for um being able to include that because where the fact that you're still this is flinky Forge that's a great point you just made well I go up and get on get on twitch about no honey we got doing czg category you know let me just change that one of those doing anything yeah there was a doom video game that I was like fairly well loved it was like one of the earliest real time strategies browser you it's you switch up all right dude yeah there we go Dean easy done there you go cool alright thanks for that good read yeah wait I would have not been great all right uh and then I will buy spice okay the best misplace see ya so you can buy up to three and it cost you three so does it go up now ones yet believe so according to this rule book after each transfer account the number of remaining so so I could buy the transfers all at once yeah so I think you could buy some and then it would go up and go about to you okay all right spice rush dick and so now the value has changed yeah there we go realistically keyboard shouldn't have a twitch header worried someone managed a sketchy entry into some upstream database another I'm claiming it really shouldn't have one I think it should it didn't it did take like about two or three months for it to show up referred in generate at which category yeah we kept cuz we were just raving under like board games for a while yeah I think people it was people plan on the crucible yeah eventually got I mean I have so many logs them to which every Friday and the people hope finding it fresh and you know maybe because of let's say let's see if we're the leader in the dune cutter there could be like what is this is not the dude I wanted yeah I'm saved like because it was like a I want to say it was like a like a 1992 RTS so I can do something with this house agent yeah okay yeah dune is a 1992 adventure strategy video game there you go 1992 calls it nice I want like I pulled that one directly out of my memory so I don't I don't know what this guy does so I'm not gonna do anything with them well you could use him to try to take out one of my guys feel like Johnny would just do him up so she can only counter if you are attacking a Freeman dude and only during duels okay so you could have that guy fight now I think we ended up just trading because I have to and you have to so we both just like knock each other out and the battle doesn't matter for that no could attack your homeworld it's five resistance so I can't go there yeah so you wouldn't I don't think you would actually get there I think it would only be to right as I could that doesn't matter for correct correct yeah yeah and it'll he can't attack anyway because he doesn't have the battle okay so you can only initiate the intrigue right right the persona can only because I'll go down the list because Justin I kind of blasted through that without really explaining it much like they do in rulebook the sooo if you were initiating rights you can do a Dueling right targets of persona so that would target house agents or Shaunie in this case battle rights target of five so you can target your homeworlds or this is a charter but some of the parts like this are charters and then our betrayin targets charters so arbitration is that little scroll icon right there and then intrigue also targets personas that's like your assassinating someone you're either like poisoning them or doing those other nefarious things to take them out so here's an interesting thing if they subdued non-event card has a number of different toggles at deployment costs it must be deployed most prohibited okay that's interesting yeah there you go all right okay you can only restricted you're gonna need to play one event I think attorney yet well you can only deploy one event it's like one dune event and one imperial event you go into one in Figure one period one dude yes okay I see okay all right now are we ready yes or the turn into the turn okay close interval I believe you're forgetting something oh I honor you with my water put your gift is a blessing of the river okay okay all right so closing interval is somewhere in this book my favorite thing about this is how this book is very poorly laid out so each player discards any number of cards in their assembly or simply contains more cards than are allowed by your sembly limit you must discard until you have only the number permitted unless increased by a card in play your Assembly limit is three cards so and then you draw cards from the Imperial deck totally one minute to take 40 minutes yes that's great yeah yeah and I guess Justin's closest to winning currently oh yeah okay so they don't wanna get rid of these nope nope okay so then draw cards from you simply deck and put them face down into your assembly and you may only draw until you reach your assembly limit okay if you run out of cards while drawing there is no penalty except that you must skip the draw phase until you manage to replenish your Imperial deck however you do that okay all right so each player discards any number of cards from their hand if you have more cards than your hand let me just write it down and then provided your favor is greater than zero draw cards in the house stuck until you reach your hand limit my favorite is greater than zero okay [Music] I'm gonna discard this I am going to describe this you want to keep these and then I will draw alright you it'll understand I don't know okay that's fine all right okay so now we're back around to the opening interval right yep so we've disengaged we'd barely use anything but disengage deferment so doing it's a deferment probably upset it a lot all day to myself while trying desperately to read the rules and then like my eyes are glazed over and I feel like clay it literally put me asleep at one point I like was reading this and I was like I have to take a nap by like a lake down to collect power naps like 25 minutes and then woke up because it's brew reading through these rules was impossible okay so all right now um just reading the cards makes me like ya wanna die cuz the the the my problem is like the terminology right like it's like it's in my brain it's right it's something that's trying so hard cuz I feel I feel like it's like 1997 right you're designing a card game you don't want to get your pantsuit off by Wizards of the coast so you have to cut with brand new terminology for literally everything yeah you cannot recycle any terminology you gotta come up with your own unique terminology we never study the stream was gonna be entertaining it's nice that it was gonna happen it's 1997 and every possible word for tapping or untapping has been used by this so you can say I came up with this engaged yep I came up with engaged is that right although engaged in this the age and most other games is completely different like concept yeah alright anyway so deferment that you got different tokens all your stuff yes now back around to the initiative phase okay I've got twelve eleven I don't have any tactics for initiative I do have this thing which I guess I could play I will discard X deferment tokens assigned to one or more target non event cards so I will spend two and discard your to dune deferment - that's pretty mean I'm pressure on the attack because that also tactics yep I'm not seeing any tactics oh and 12:14 cards okay all right where we at this is Addie Russell Lacroix is angry a real-time strategy video game developed by intelligent games and released by Westwood Susan nice to know I need for Microsoft Windows it's almost as if he was waiting in chat for this very common he's been telling he's like there's someone out there that has specifically followed the doom video game on twitch and they are they they turn on notifications and we clicked that button switch over and they're like boom oh my god someone is playing my favorite game of all time hey guys dude dude game here jebaited ready to pour some real time strategy jebaited okay all right so I am still leading in the initiative because of the favor yep alright so I am gonna go I'm gonna use the forbidden zone to generate three Solari yeah um I think Johnny just tries to go do this guy yeah like this guy no okay so all right we're gonna get some battle it's gonna be what happens all right I'm excited to find out I'm good all right all right I have to go to my god this my way I met the forms of Connelly okay conflict lies at the heart of the imperium the great convention acknowledges this by providing a formal set of rules for resolving conflicts among males it's okay this is actually a great line or our trivia game dune or the dune rulebook so these rules the forms of Kanaly dictate the types of aggression permitted at once among the houses in detail and processes involved in their their resolution the forms of Kanaly must be obeyed all right anyway so okay initiation consists of two steps declaration engagement a tacher declaration state the type of right i intend to initiate I'm gonna knife that okay and declare an eligible persona you govern as the attack leader Shawnee all right naming an assigned personnel as additional participants there's no other assigned personnel to her it's just the knife so she's gonna take her knife she's gonna stab that dude name an eligible card of your rivals as the target of the attack so an eligible target of dueling is a persona and those guys are persona hmm to be considered eligible a leader must be disengaged correct and must possess the required Talent yes swords swords an eligible target must not not possess the same allegiance as the attacker correct and be a valid target of the right being used he as a persona so beginning with a defender each player may now play one or more declaration tactics do you have any decoration tactics no I have no declaration tactics all right attacker engagement engage all declared attackers engaged okay like engage your leader and any other participants as a defender engagement you could counter he had somebody who could stop this knife-wielding maniac from stabbing that dude but you don't so engage your leader and any other participants if they're currently disengaged beginning of the attacker engagement Takas maybe plate I know all right okay now the assessment interval occurs so we do the force calculation so I currently have to three-fourths and arrive at a force Topol so I have 3/4 so I've done because I don't have a sweaty boy yep okay and be sure to conclude any modifiers generated by tactics or special operations we declare our force total I have three you have zero hmm force distribution after declaring force totals each player distributes their force among eligible targets in the opposing group so I'm gonna choose that for - because we've got two little health guys yapanese got two resistance yeah right the attacker distributes force first followed by the defender force may not be distributed to personas with assigned participants unless those participants also receive sufficient force to vanquish them they taught me sweets for so so much you have to stab this whole battalion first do you know what it sing it's not participating it's not participating because you can only participate in battle rites that's it's not participating okay yeah in a battle right yeah yeah yeah okay so all right so like what happens okay it's a resolution resolution begins you get out the ti-85 yep if the force applied to a target leader or participant equals or exceeds its resistance the target is vanquished okay it's insufficient it survives just tell me what vanquish means think consequences a vanquished card is immediately subdued along with all of its assigned cards okay surviving cards remain exactly as they were before resolution ignore any partial force applied to participants okay if the target of the right is vanquished so this is battles and duels the attacker may either increase their favor or decrease the defenders favor by amount equal to the total number of defense particular participants vanquished during the right so I'm gonna make you lose one favor we're having that guy okay all right boom stabbed okay well I feel better I am going a TV let's get some economy going was this thing dear Oh what's this thing oh this is real good okay um yeah Lambert tokens are spiced as the amount of spice in the current in the spice macaque how does how does like how's more spice to generated this says engaged to produce one spice in the Gil toward the guilt or okay yeah see okay so I'm gonna I'm gonna petition these smuggler bribes and engages to produce one spice in by horde the Charter it is a charter yeah it produces a spice in your hoard yes taps - just give me a spice that's bananas I feel like it's veins maybe it's not money I don't know don't you fight me for it I'm very broke so yeah I start at three that's fine you give it to your three bank we got it all right I'm gonna engage the smugglers to produce one spice into my hoard okay then I am don't do anything with this I feel like I feel like a dune car game to be so much better than this and I feel like I can't believe no one's designer doing card games since this yeah well sue from our understand if we were playing with like actual decks and if we were playing multiplayer these guys seem like really lame yeah the decks get much faster yeah yeah all right like I don't even have to like targets for this guide to go yes right now okay I mean I kind of get it yeah yeah I guess I'll try to get this Imperial basin so I'll start the bidding a three and this says to engage produce one spice on it or produce one spice in the hoard what does this by Sonia do doom lets you take Spice off of your holdings all right you get every event for three okay yeah I'll spend three then I'll get this I have such a high except with us it's bananas okay I will put like one and also like just trying to read the cards when I can't like get it to a distance from my face it did Walter Reed I am going to put a spice on the Imperial basin I think the font is specifically designed to not be readable by humans comfortably because it's like mmm all right and I bless you with my water your what would blind why the line is your gift is a blessing of the river you give us a blessing River okay got it got it okay so I'm going to engage to produce five salaries go to 13 here all right and I'll use this harvesting contract with section give me one now to the desert bigger then I'm gonna try to lay gurney again okay / - I will say three I will say or gone before you I will try to produce or try to petition Karthik okay before okay so I can't do anything so you get it for four times though hey Karthik here or six can find it the Karthik's is engaged to produce for solarz in Treasury if you governed doing produce one additional stories that seems pretty good I don't know pays for it so tender yeah exactly and we get crushed in the economy baby Kanna me and then I'll petition this suspense err technology is engaged to produce three solares in your treachery it'll say - yeah sure I'll say three say four okay before on it you can't Amir my god I'm so far behind so I will engage freeze three slurries so go to 9 right and then and then stuff now I gotta figure out what else stuff does in my hand need like like I'm hopelessly behind this also plays the best because why not yeah believe you're right her pee could have just started at 3 each time thanks for that research from 17 dudes 17 months and even wait for the stream the whole time much appreciated storm okay don't know get all kinds of events down there dog yeah they don't like do anything okay meaningful at least you what is a holding Heath's insurer's maybe that's what I think yeah Holdings Imperial Turner and fiefs so that is what those are I'll play the trees propagandists mmm it says engage to reduce the deployment cost of a persona by two salaries it engaged a during a petition to reach the final deployment cost mm-hmm okay so you think it says tactics declaration but I think that's just like you can do it whenever right yeah I think so I think it being a tactic means you can play it at any time so when you're declaring that you are playing somebody I'm gonna reduce the cost of this Guard commander oh my god you can encounter during battle rights okay we crushed on the economy you know what that means it means I don't okay wait oh I can that's vice aver that gurney like what's the on something you can this is 5 this is four five before okay so you can't quit actually engaged both these because in like two things can participate a fine I think right sure sure it is like talk about participants and such you may need the tech leader but did a a right battle rights yeah so there any personnel assigned to attack leader as additional participants it's signed to attack later yeah so that would be like the Italians in the okay so you can't like you can't I have like multiple people so even so if I want even destroy that I would have to like strapping up with stuff yeah interesting I'm gonna give this propagandist a flip Dart okay it says sign percentage areas plus 2/4 are intrigued rights okay it does require that he has one I assume that was yes so he's actually three it's gonna poison we go yeah do you ever like get to the fight I guess like this stuff on gurney would have like on there pretty quick yeah okay that is my turn okay I honor you with my water I accept this gift on the river so what's your gift is a blessing of the ring yeah yeah first of all love the line this is possible on line line wait concur knee just like just axis guy uh yeah one you can attack him if you have some weight I like boost oh no okay so this card to draw up the three oh yeah we disengage first yeah it's gauge draw do you mind does my subdued card get disengaged yes I believe yes you got a deferment took and yeah mmm Madhu MS deferred now is all this crap is this irma tokens you load it up son love this game alright now you these things yep you Thanks oh my god so you can make these dune cards now a new house and keyboards house their team would be needless only condition they're pretty great okay I'm at 12 favor that's a little dead okay so I am first I'm gonna use the Forbidden Zone and generate some Solari [Music] you I'm gonna use the smuggler bribes with me to get spice what does this mean how do I know this okay what what is weirding rank I know what that is yeah weirding rank is one of the talents so Paul Atreides has the weirding ring.i okay yeah okay okay I think Johnny is just gonna keep stabbing people please no [Music] you yeah Johnny's gonna stab gertie okay okay just he's dead it's come out with three that's that's what you need okay you've got only got one cheese for resistance during stabbing so you lose one favor and that was my lands rad right so my chome I could send this house agent after your propagandists I think I need to do that you I do get a plus two for stirring intrigue rights yes so we'll take each other out but it's better than him taking out Johnny I think so okay yeah I'll send the house agent after the propagandist best of three yeah that's a great idea all right so they take each other out yeah all right so how do you wouldn't need like infant space this game is cray just the table keeps gaining tokens yeah okay and you lose another no actually if the target is vanquished the attacker may either generate solares in the Treasury or discard solares from the defenders Treasury equal to twice the total number of defense participants vanquished during the right so - yeah so I can even make you lose - or I can gain - I think I have to gain - because I don't think they I don't think I will get anywhere if I don't like get some get an economy of my own okay so I am going to petition the trespass accord and this is a charter and it says each time a desert is engaged produced two salaries in my Treasury so actually did this out of order I should have waited this is not a desert like anyway so yeah start bidding starts at two I'll say two or three I will go to four okay I'll spend before the damage tokens store mark all different tokens so like every turn everything that's facedown gets a deferment token and then you can pay the difference in cost of the card and the amount of tokens on it to deploy that car so it's like they come back for sure my time all right I will use the base Basin I'm going to engage it and each time a desert is engaged I produce two salaries into my Treasury so I'll get two and I am gonna petition for the open bleed open bled sorry and I'll start the bidding at 4:00 yep try side of this game was made very quickly a couple of CCG craze why doesn't really work we're alternately made over may extremely long by someone who refused it I'll even it I think I feel like it's a second because a second I think they're like in their brain they're like this is 3000 IQ game it's genius well it's it's like I think they wanted to digest it a lot I think they wanted to capture everything about the dune it was like a design for theme first and then never never drilled down yeah enough yeah so I'm going to use the open blood and I can produce one spice assigned to it or I can put it one into the Treasury so I'll sign one to this okay and I get two salaries from the trespass accord okay and yeah that's my turn I actually don't do anything with this most of this probably get discarded on the next ring all right good oh I'm sorry I bless you with my water your gift is a blessing of the river yes okay no we did summation our wine okay okay so [Music] Jonah's tavern oh they try and take her out you coming you coming for this bad what is the line for you missed it storm but when you end your turn you have to say I honor you with my water and you make a spitting gesture and your rival must respond with your gift is a blessing of the river if you don't respond with that then you lose one favor so it's in the rulebook so since we're learning how to play the game then it's basically required at this point so I mean I Omega five things and I will play this and it says each house must pay one Solari per holding the govern to the Imperial Treasury if Alice can not pay the full amount it must reduce its favor about one per unpaid salary so I spend four to all my money's gone how do we count this as well the homework abides good question in our home worlds fiefs our home worlds holdings yeah homeworld the planet of origin are ok all links see holding 14 early step 8 you nope okay that's a lie [Music] you yes your homeworld is a whole thing so I will you'll empty out my Treasury and you also make me lose one favor yeah okay great so I will start playing stuff Rezac Solari so X is a number of desert spice harvesters and carry owls governed by your rival desert desert tutus make for Salieri's mm-hm too much money you're producing people faster and then Johnny can stab them [Music] boy Arrakeen before okay mission is accepted yet let it be you say accepted Evon then I'll engage two priests three salaries hmm my God all these things that just pay themselves I will petition the spotting spotter control harvesting Union for - so when spice tokens are produced by a desert holding or spice flow event produce one celery / spice in your Treasury okay so I have three in my Treasury right now so that's pretty good and then I will petition the great flat [Music] engage produce to spice assigning it to being great flat or engaged freeze to spice in the guild board the produced in the guild horde were set the crow yeah which is the exchange rate okay so I will produce it is a desert to spice it as a desert okay so I will gain to Solari when you let's engage the desert and then I once my seconds are produced by a desert holding or spice blow event breeze once already price by structure so I'll use that too you get three okay all right combo and off here yep and then I have this thing three Salieri's yep yeah how much everything up okay all right so nine salaries okay then things like I Newman's just one man I got a lot of stuff that isn't seems like okay so I can give this guy in trees battalion Oh coming from my he's about to just take something out he's got four look can I get four four that's four that's four and then these are fine what does that do this is the thing that gives me Laurie every time yeah that's pretty good I'll probably take that out okay well I will battle right oh this is a charter so you cannot battle it okay so can battle the Fife yeah or the open blood so you can battle this so battle look like okay I have to engage the battalion as well yeah so I will lose a favor because it's gonna get that's subdued if anyone knows what I just did I'm very impressed cuz I barely understood that didn't I don't I don't know what happens that spice I want to think it's discarded I probably not it's there he's nothing really just gets discarded you yeah doesn't say anything about it losing getting the stuff yeah it's captured so I get it okay the captured spice amber okay so I [Music] yes wait I bless you with my water I honor you it I honor you with my water your gift is a blessing of the river okay all right and end of the turn you it's gonna kinda script that car that car thing off great this disengage aw it's gonna stack these up yeah ferments deferment and a deferment right and blow them table when your blood pressure friendly causes you begin to bleed house okay I'll do that no guess who's getting stabbed next Shh probably that guy ok so I have 10 favor you have 9 favor so I'm still barely hanging in there I've had Paul trees I can't find them you it looks like all attachments and node guys you okay so I am going to use the Forbidden Zone and gain threes by three Solaria I am look at this stuff give how much over there $7 $7 a desert holding or spice blow event because you like me doesn't holding it's know you do okay yeah I got one that would produce one spice so once a larper spice in my Treasury like art is dumb yeah it's pretty good I think I beat it up I think yeah okay I'm just going like I has to be deployed right mm yes yes it was not immense okay I'll use these smuggler bribes and produce a spice into my cord anyway I can get some money oh but I can I can send her and hook the student the eyeballs yeah okay she's gonna go put this dude in the eyeballs instead of using the knife she's gonna use her intrigue okay so it's to which will take him out so I'll get to money I wonder if we're doing that right I wonder if the attachments to it matter now this is personnel it is personnel I wonder if that but they're not like engaged right yeah I guess they're not participant eka engagement at target participated target participates Annabelle write engaged to include as a participant yeah okay so you can't participate in yeah okay so I'll get to money all right so I am going to try to bring still Garen to play hmm bidding starts at 5 so I'll say 5 I'll say so okay so you spend two and I can't bring still around I'm not trying to instill got run wild on me but don't even know he does oh god what a surprise yes a surprise is surprise allows you to distribute and resolve a portion of your force during calculation thereby giving you the ability to vanquish one or more yeah just say first posing participants before they can add their force to your rivals discuss a first strike so if he's attacking you get to take people out I've got it okay okay so I am gonna spend two for this doom smuggler [Music] get out of five get a bunch of fours over there Oh kind of stuff you you you hmm my guys aren't so good at talking alright so I'm gonna give him a stunner I hit somebody with Stone Cold Stunner and so he generates +2 you force during battle rights okay and unfortunately he's gonna go fight your great flat because the eyeball and the battle can be done in the same turn so he does 4 to it so that takes it out you lose a favor I don't know how either of us win this game if we just keep Duncan on each other I'm winning oh you're winning okay and then Oh engage this I guess I can't just give you more money so I can't I can't use this sweet sweet money all right your turn good so I'm sorry what I'm sorry I honor you with my water your gift is blessing the river thank Co world of Doom championships there I have I mean the dune card games stuff is worth a lot of money surprisingly well Justin's taking his turn and is dunking on me so when it plays things tits go to Ebay does I have to else agents entrees battalion okay so if you would like a box sealed of the starter decks is going to run you $800 what that's caulking in it is over $100 a deck geez okay so I'm gonna engage these five salaries each each starter deck in this game sealed is between 80 and $100 incredible no cap no cap no cap in the parlance of the children I will petition the Imperial sucks cool profit no you get some good suck over there I see look at that for three yep I can't compete with that economy over there it's just - yeah okay so just - good will I'm gonna get you here mmm just gotta flip up the Dean here mmm we all do so engage produced three salaries or if you govern do improves to additional so face five engage priests for you produce if you govern Dayton produced one additional that's five well hmm I think this is an example of like where multiplayer yeah like is a better version of this because it's more likely that one player wouldn't control both of those right because there's a it's unique yeah okay so if somebody controls something with a name nobody else can put it in a place so make three more Salieri's like or solarz no God I will make x-large we're exit number of deserts and spice harvesters and crystals curios I've won 120 how many deserts would you say you engaged over there Oh none none okay good okay good just ya know just wondering I will pave or to flip this guy up it has to have at least one deferment token oh yeah you uh-uh there's no open bliss I have the open boy Asian server helot ah I can't report indeed Jesus five intrigued holy shipping okay then I'll give them the trunk REE says it poison effect discard a target subdued persona and nine give something else too you I will it was health physician three comma Club so this is engage to assign X deferment tokens to a target or subdued persona you govern x equals the physicians intrigue rank so I'll assign one here yeah and then I get you back great turn you back yet just gonna stack all these up here you it was obviously behind maybe you I'm gonna start stabbing uh Johnny their poisoner yeah yes she can't do anything back to you because she's disengaged but so you will poison her and I can discard her yeah with the trauma cream what do I get for doing that you get the number of persona so you could you can gain two or I can lose two dollars yeah I will make you lose two dollars hurts then I can do a was the alert rewrites battle and show that was the chome that was choked then trigger arbitration and then you can do battle or dual-link lr dueling yeah this is only think well you can also battle my whole world but these are the only things that I have that you can bound you I think it was sleeping you have so many more cars I think you're any Valor okay it's a plus-one battle rank and Gurney's gonna engage the this is 5 this is 5 he's got four so I guess this is a charter it's a charter yeah no you can may be petitioned yeah you can only be arbitrated against okay I'll give him a Kindle and +1 force during a duel Oh No your stab my some extent that's my jaw okay so second all right yeah you can either gain a favor or lose a fair it's okay in a favor and I am and it's done strike him down the deck box is pretty freakin difficult to take out oh crap tbh guess I gotta get rid of this stuff okay so deferment tokens yeah yeah just engage this needs a determine tickin so if I if I took out you were that that thing could I then deploy it yes okay so what happens if you're a huge can't you can't play it bring it to has the major firm Toby's on it okay okay Brad damn structs okay is you have to have ten spice and ten favor yeah during your turn I'm currently at three spice - I I've are you with my water but your gift is a blessing of the river guys team - wait wait for him there okay so this guy pops up now because he is the deferment is all gone so I have initiative then I may use it Forbidden Zone generate three I guess I have to use the open blood to get to from this it's a shame because you'll get that your thing are you clear justice by slogan yeah so please three you thinking it just does oh my god happens oh my god you ma'am [Music] you you jeez you have how much money over there eight yeah lay dollars I'll buy you about anything yeah you try honey it was discouraged this kind of wind more I'm not gonna lie yeah especially autonomy right I don't I don't think I I gotta get an aisle ated this turn I think you probably win right I can't get enough spice when out and get enough spice yeah I mean I said I think you've won this game I think it's just me like prolonging we gotta play the game okay well we don't concede all right well around here okay I will have the house agent you what do you do this may also be the only game on dune on YouTube after we're done by the way so we need to play through mistakes and all yeah I think this I think this is not state does not stay in play which one doesn't I don't think this stays in play this butcher yeah this one ginger yeah because I think it's a one-time use thing okay sure nice deployed governor presented needs talent requirement any other dude no limit to their adventures there's nothing until the intent engaged start preserving a pretty scarred aspects declared can be done melee after playing layer intern or unsub's couldn't turn proposed capture discard governing house can transfer venture to another element otherwise it is discarded oh wait that's if it was like if it was disappointing to govern per sentence and meet the talent require any other conditions no limit to their adventures be done immediately after deploying layer the turn around subscript R in known as capture discard so I guess you're right okay so is this right after yes yeah okay because it's not like these things it's yeah okay so different type part okay okay well I guess if I play this house mint at it makes my hand size plus one I guess I am going to know nothing in this game is in real English now I'm gonna use a smuggler to add one spice to my not just cards the f3 three times but many many releasing it make it salty words and get myself a cash infusion by selling spice so I must sell three spice or a piece okay so I'll get twelve Solari let's see actually very interesting and then that resets the exchange rate okay all right we're gonna play some still gar I you got eight money yeah okay eight money I am [Music] to jump right to eight you do anything about it you you yeah I'll say eight for still guard okay all right so down to six I don't like giveaway of spice but and be up okay still gar is picking up the Freeman battalion you right now ride okay now I could send a mint at after your house agent so that thing that's going to do I'll send the mint at after your house agent who's out of the tree oh yeah I guess we might as well send this house agent after him that's a - - it goes down I will gain a favor no I get $2 from that right because that's a gem thing yeah all right and then I can send still gar with six good to go after your Doon I got to some of those yeah I think I could good afternoon so what's it still gar afternoon because you got all kinds of garbage over there I'd have to fight through I can't and these guys are engaged as well I can't defend anything okay so I take out date okay all right okay let's me you oh and I will make I will gain a favor because you're gonna make me lose a favor here sighs all right good okay this is like pseudo Game of Thrones II yeah stuff didn't get off the board yeah ever if nothing ever left the board oh yeah I honor you with my water your gift is a blessing of the river all right I'm gonna play the bike can I like put something on this guy and then discard on the things that are on them I have no idea command limits mmm someday you you you so apparently we can transfer cards around on stuff you but still gonna really get surprised when he's in attacking believe so he's tapped anyway right side of the defend bagger I think Hoover was ahead and merge streaks him yeah yeah yep and what is it was the intrigue right again money money I'll take two and the other I could you can do battle and duels now No [Music] a surprise can happen on defense okay that's only for it says winnings we do battle rights so yeah that's like if you were attacking him or if he was attacking you okay you [Music] I wonder if I wonder if we're doing the force thing because I don't I don't know if all the stuff gets subdued with them Oh whatever do it there's no just sit that it couldn't be used if the person couldn't be used to just be stuck there but like we may be doing that wrong I don't know we'll let the dune experts tell us in the YouTube comments you resolution Bank which cards are meeting substitute ignore force supplied to a participant as lessons resistance yeah and then you get the bonuses I made you sit there thank you my right worst issue in Atlanta Agron shoots force first full of it and her force may not be distributed to personas with assigned participants the citizens are also assigned sufficient for anguish participants have stuff to yeah yeah so I don't know if any of this stuff was attached positioning anything there didn't have anything I think this just stuff was just like a scientist yeah stuff individually so it's like that like this yeah yeah he's like that and this is I think they stay in the position that they were but yeah I think that part could have been more clear right but I get right this if something's not participating who okay anyway I sold all my spice okay weird isn't it fine through it I'll still smack make by the back three you make to spice here by spice for me rethink all right let me just make a bunch of money five is 9 well sixteen nineteen then you have one desert mm-hmm $27 so by maximum spices turn so by 3/4 night you through 18 I think I want to buy some favor - per favore mm-hmm y3 favor well and I'll produce some spice on this thing which will give me $6 took 18 about three sir he was eight years ago this he's zero videos about doing for game we could actually post that video we could be the go to dune info on how to struggle through one game was doing over the course of two hours okay then I will it was like a big asterisk next to it saying maybe it's wrong but we think we're doing a lot of stuff wrong yeah quite possibly wrong so I'll redeploy this guy for one and redeploy this guy for one so interestingly like having a bunch of dudes almost doesn't matter right right only use so many of them they like need to have abilities it's like only attack one at a time yeah I really wonder if like this game was like inspiration for a lot of stuff in the Game of Thrones cardi maybe it's got elements alright cuz like all the different challenges go yeah the game at threads card game feels like a streamlined version of this right and with stuff getting off the board all right so then I will slap all down here Oh No yeah me that Paula sleeper has awoken he's got this weirding thing can use that for anything there's that what that is it has to be referred to on other cards that's like that the way that weirding writes okay I'll get this Caledon exports for three no no what cost to you we have it all a bid three video three how I got you got the only gauge that the paris' three can you win start your next turn the start of an extern maybe because you could buy out dune right yeah like I think you can you have another find out I will get Duke Leto I don't think you need him right does he add anything he doesn't get me plus x-two my declared favor x equals loot his command rank during initiative so if you try to get initiative for me i could get them all sighs want that lead it up okay okay and then I have a battle right thing I can do I can't actually like get anything destroyed though well see if it uses arbitration no you did an entry you didn't enjoy it you have to do either battle or duel betturtle so the de gurney could like you're gonna get a knife this guy ya hearing stefan I got alright I either you gain a favor I lose a favor I will make you lose a favor okay stabbed you stabbed no okay next turn I honor you with my water your blessing is a gift your gift is a blessing of the river yeah these don't matter I'm never gonna cast these events yeah it's freaking bored is so clogged with crap yeah I'm just getting all this yeah I'm probably the same thing so do I have to do every fill you refill them but then you don't have anything else to draw okay I think this game is a lot quicker than we may think it is yeah yeah a lot of life family around the figures yeah especially two players I can see it going a long time if it's multiplayer right all right okay the initiative yeah you're ahead now so okay I'll take initiative see okay I'm gonna play this iniciative thing it says discarded card from my hand to increase my favourite by an amount equal to the targets deployment costs targets having an ex deployment creased by 5 so I'll discard the guild surplus to give myself +5 initiative to go to 15 I will engage in Li I govern to increase my declared favor by an amount equal to the Allies command rank so see I guess I'll get a surfer I got 15 okay and then I can use Duke to give me plus three more okay all right there you go that was the most exciting initiative phase it's pretty exciting all right so I can make five dollars make three dollars did he did actually matter eight thirteen 17 20 25 by 6:00 well flip I got out of I dude back first together all that 26 [Music] you have to believe you have to engage your homeworld uh you subdue your homeworld when you by dune oh yes so I just do that after I engage it right yeah okay yeah but that would have mattered yes a couple turns ago right I think I've been I just had Blake slightly less money but it slightly less money yeah we didn't like that much more gas money the freeman one I would say played some of those crap yeah when deploying dune do not subdue the Forbidden Zone so that makes it okay that makes a lot of sense yeah okay I don't think that matters I don't think it ran scheme of things I just make plenty use money yeah I think you made so much more money than me this game that it didn't matter 26 about $27 yeah so you can use dude to get that three so I can make the three up you can buy one from the bank yep I did petition yep you got 10 favor and 10 spice so you're at there you go okay Justin controls dude and therefore if so facto the universe all right so now is when the movie happens because yes house a trees has taken over Dean yeah movie starts GGG okay right for Game two no we have to play all seven of the decks to see which one's the best yeah the tabletop oh yeah lot of stuff I it's like close to fun yeah it's got some concepts I like yeah I do think well honestly I do think this game was shined in multiplayer yeah because I do think one person will jump to a lead and a two-player game this could do very well the second edition I think you could build on this like core yeah there's there's a core here that it has something right that's interesting yeah I like the I like fighting in the different phases you could do worse the worst yet yeah yes I got actually spit Nathan that's correct spitting is a honor right I'm doing because you're yeah you're giving them water yeah I mean uh yeah there's some interesting stuff going on in this game I think the cards themselves can do with a lot less clunk yeah well right and now that we've played a game we can actually read other cards and like know what they do right like most of the characters aren't that exciting I feel like characters should matter more because like yeah it really came down to the suiting economy and like that slightly all the matter here's princess Irulan who's a beanie Jesuit huh but she has something if you also have saddam because you can make cross faction stuff it's just when you go to play her you have to lose a favor and so that's something else I could have done even though I was behind economic reasons I could have actually have spent some of my favorite to reduce the cost of my guys true to try to play them we didn't really do that very much I remember that you sing that role once and so she has arbitration and if you have Saddam then she gains the Carina allegiance and +1 command and arbitration so she would go to three arbitration and you could give her an extra attachment for in stature a target noble vanquished during an intrigue in which lady Margo is a participant and so capturing is just straight taking control of so she seems insane then right like I would have been if one of us had been using her for intrigue right so it would have been just like taking out opposing people and getting control of them permanently very interesting so yeah I liked I kind of liked the bidding on certain cards I'd say interesting mechanic yeah it it definitely is sort of way more as far as like the person who's winning economically yes yeah apparently that the strategy and to players is to go second and force your opponent to bid more on their stuff because either you stop them from playing anything or you make them pay more for their stuff and then you just get to play all yours I guess so yeah which i think is just like a design flaw it's simply a design flaw I think there's a way to implement that in a way that isn't bad yeah probably yeah the rest of like I don't like that you're so limited on engagements Oh as far as like you go do one of these two things and one of these two things yeah because their teachers were like I will scrap the board and I can only use two things a turn yeah yeah because it definitely seems then like some of the events are more powerful so like one thing I really like is bidding across both decks play cards this isn't balanced yeah exactly yeah um the spacing Gil homeworld cannot be declared the target of a balance oh that makes sense center far away the sort of spacing guild needs this guy getting surprised during arbitration the navigator dude he assigns ex deferment tokens to his targets subdued Imperium event and X equals his prescience ring which is four so he can actually put four precious let's get up that's new yeah well that's what the get the guild uses I yeah it doesn't do anything that is an example of adding in things just to add them in for flavor right because like that could be anything else you could represent that as treat yourself arbitration same with a weirding rank is like you don't need to have that in this game mm-hm it could be represents some other way like just and like a power on on people yeah keywords or yeah right this guy there's no English with us no engaged examine up to X subdued events governed by target rival so this guy taps to look at subdued events like right is it even good right yeah because I feel like you would know more than likely what the events in the game are there's not like enough of them right this says nope Houseman petition to deploy a holding it's actually insane right hmm like he turns it off yeah yeah people can't people can't play stuff you could get your stuff and then play that so that's like a benefit of having inter I did have one instead like your our players can't deploy blades or personas the track I never got the chance like plagues you already had initiative she lost her yeah oh yeah that was organic Ric dune yeah interesting uh I feel like now that we have actually played a game it's it's one of those I'd like to revisit just to see if we could cobble together decks from what we had that were a little bit more focused right I have liked I'm sure you did too but I like a lot of debts so much crap so so many cards that just like didn't do anything yeah it's very strange it was like all attachments and like I feel like God you wanted deficits like a lot of events yeah a lot of tactics yeah yeah like screw with combat because there wasn't really enough to that combat just gonna happen right and it was just like we make it more interesting yeah exactly it was like plus one attackers we just won the combats right I had one card that was good I'd never had a chance to actually play it but it was during an engagement an intriguing gauge meant I could tap one of your guys so I got like a tack one of your people and then tap one of your other guys which seems pretty good right because part part of the problem was is that I couldn't I couldn't take out the correct people if I could tap down therfore to keep him for visiting I elating all my guys um you know I would have been a lot better shape so so I want to do for the next part gave necromancy my dealer rings yes for the Rings looking forward I have a deck here and you said you had stuff that oh yeah that was before the lockdown so we we need to like and put on the hats ooh is that it's not my parents house so it has like call ahead yeah tell me put it out yeah I'm gonna go we go we can also get that from our friend Luca and he said you got some decks yeah that's not that's an option as well but we have to arrange that I mean we could possibly put that together for next week if you wanted to do that next week maybe maybe I feel like we're burning through our current continuity stuff well honestly like I said we could we could revisit this yeah we could revisit Battletech we could resume it we could go to or the Rings I do have Star Wars TCG cervix yeah our Stormers the wizards one right doesn't play today I think that was TCG yeah but I have started X for that which I want to dive into because that was I think that deck or that gave me is pretty fun yeah even though team coming I just played today I had those decks for about two years that I've got more than that right well I bought them I found the gen con' okay two years ago and I wasn't gonna like about it because I wanted to play the game again I never got a chance to actually play it yeah there's also Star Wars the living card game yeah no I would love to dive into again yeah okay we could talk about that for a long time right right right because we were we were very competitive in that game for quite some time yeah because yeah I think you won a regional yep I was like 17th one year at GenCon like I just missed the top 16 cutoff and we were the 2 meter champion maybe we were yeah it would be a Matt Cole and the Arkham Horror uh his name but they he'd won like every major market power turn of it it was that so that that is a tournament yeah we will never forget yeah that was exhausted I think we didn't play that many games right there was like four rounds and that's knows three rounds and then top cut yeah but it was it was 12 oh there's one 12 hours because the rounds in that game were it was like crazy 3 hours I think yeah yeah cuz it was like an hour and a half per game yeah so you missed even Lord Farquaad honestly watch the vaad lots of fun we sleep we struggled through it but we watched the through the vasa Warhammer conquest yeah we could double we could print definite bring that out I'd think I might still my cards um but like with all this we are you talking about 40k the 40k why not invasion right yeah yeah invasion is also good yeah I would like to dive into evasion again - I wonder how cheap invasion set is alive upload photo I played the out of conquest yeah so anything could definitely I I was actually first there's actually my first content creation it doesn't exist anymore you can find that I think the Twitter for it still exists but I think I definitely think it would be worth checking out invasion - I think we should we should get invasion yeah I think invasion was less balanced than conquest oh yeah but it was really interesting with mechanics a really cool everybody had broken stuff yeah it was just like was the stuff equally broken I don't think it quite was but there were a lot of a lot of interesting mechanics going on in that game I think we can definitely widen our card game necromancy with or with the chances of us doing extra streams and yeah keyboard you can push back a bit right I don't think there's I think we could definitely do maybe one a week like a weekend Stream kind of thing yeah Dark Eldar were very broken in the first couple sets but to me and the guy from the podcast we called it I think the command struggle the we had a chaos deck that was like 95% against Dark Eldar and it it actually dogged Eldar as well and so he went to I chose to play in Star Wars that year at Gen Con and Star Wars and conquests were happening at the same time he took the brew that we put together and lost to the dude who got second because that guy lost the dude who was cheating who was like the first person ever banned for life from Fantasy Flight forum FFG games because he ended up so yeah so I think John had like a really good chance to win it all but he ran up against this dude and the dude was doing some 200 IQ Dark Eldar strats he had like an 80 card deck or whatever because the the the rules the game I think we're like 40 cards minimum he had like an 80 card deck that included every the tutor guy no not that yeah he included every possible to shield card in his deck and so every time you would go into combat with him you just couldn't kill any of his guys cuz he was like his hand was he would just like shield to shield to shield to shield to and you're like oh man how many could this guy have and the answer is he had as many as he could possibly have fitting into his deck and so John sat down to play on then lost and was like dude I just couldn't like kill any of those guys and I was like man like how is that possible and he explained it to me I was like huh next-level stuff it just meant that every time you drew cards you were like going to stop your guys from getting killed and our geller were like good enough that it didn't matter like the the dark L our commander was good enough that she could like win fights by herself because she generated so many tokens maybe we're here when Brady Janelle's idea is not so easy to find because I'm trying to find it right now I know I know we've got some sealed stuff at Empire that I could possibly pick up they had like all the chapter pass here's the base set twenty books I mean yeah we could we could definitely do a lot with just we have a base set somewhere right I don't know you think I probably got rode my stuff okay I think all I think all my stuff I think I've got every way my stuff yeah yeah cuz it was just like when we got touch this again that was like that was probably 10 years ago I was probably like 5 right what was it when you moved out of your mom's house but that was almost 10 years ago really yeah I think it was I think I was 22 yeah uh-huh yeah I mean I know you're actually going to bite a lot faster now yeah as we get older as we're stuck in this house where time has no meaning it's the yeah very true so chapter packs for like $10 on eBay that's like retail at the time because it's not those weren't the get three of every card in the chapter pack either those were yeah there's like McCain like yeah one rare three of the Commons to in Commons kind of thing yeah yeah that's pretty bad I do want you to show everybody Eddie good right now don't alert him he's been chillin like that for a while he's got stun poking out I don't know if it shows up in the Oh No your housing him harassing him it doesn't quite show I only see if everything enhance enhance Patong enhance he's got a mini bluff going on he's getting a treat waking up to the tree yes right here enhance you can see it kinda yep he's awake it's stirring he's rousing he's roused No you can't can see him Oh what else could we do we could do our games we played it would be easy to get our hands on so I not technically dead it still exists in some capacity but ufs us is good maybe you could probably good thing to explore I didn't really fight it at them I I don't I wouldn't hate not calling it card game necromancy for say but basically saying hey this is ufs a long time ago code I have a lot of dusting stuff and uh yeah yeah it's not technically daddy well it's it is actually like heading toward the grave but there's still destiny content being created so I wouldn't really we don't merely need to write throw our weight into that to play destiny right now I think it's more interesting to explore stuff like invasion or conquest that no one's made any content for for a while we still talk about like I like playing dune because we could see what kind of mechanics yeah we're made in the time when there was not a streamlined process for creating card yes when did the game of thrones card game come out was it 2000 2001 it was early because it was before the it was it was a four feast for crows came out yes and that was 2001 these four coasters 2007 oh I was thinking Dance with Dragons tales it said - dragons I think it was 2012 yeah you're right here right 2013 hold on it was a tool that I feel ago Tilson hold on when did they make sure goes star realms I love star trump stars really good as tills a pipe creature Chris okay and because I know it was like seven years until the dance dragons came out yeah yeah star elms isn't like a CCG that i think we're trying to get more towards TCG sternal is really fun just I think I got the rights to it before it became like a powerhouse yes way sir so Game of Thrones [Music] this probably doesn't one first edition I guess the card game that is not it that's the LCG it was run CCG yeah it's reimplemented you can click the implement the evil it's collectible card game top one okay chosen to okay for the original and we played the heck out of that yeah we did however there was a time my brother bought the box of the new set and instead of Commons they had rares and the slot so he'd like he immediately had a box of every single rare from the new set because they were miss packaged yeah I was like that's the most awesome thing ever in your eyes that Commons are impossible to get yeah what else like I really I'm a I'm super excited about luring rings cuz yeah that games sweet we bought a really cool mechanics going on I think there's a lot of cool mechanics that never got really Bria plated and other stuff yeah the sights was one of the coolest stuff like traveling in the game yeah the object the game it's like not affect the fact that you were like you could be in a position where you're where you realized you couldn't win with one half of your deck and you had to focus on the other half of your deck and trying to balance both of those things was incredible because there were a lot of games where it was like I cannot win with my fellowship feel like I'm already too far behind they're beat up yeah or some I just have to make sure that my fellowship doesn't die and then I try to kill them with her akak yeah or there were times where like how many times would you have somebody like make a double push on you right or the bluff right where they go and you're like you don't quite have enough stuff to crush them to you you Bluff you you discard a card you draw one as if you didn't have any thing in your hand to try to get them to push into where you would just like lay your trap down it was like really dangerous to do because you like had to play your bad guy cards to cycle through right yeah but yeah there's there that that game did lead to a lot of awesome moments it was good so it was really good I'm really excited play like I really want to play it next week because I just want to look at the game again I think the cards are beautiful like I still think like the borders and the art yeah art but it's like still from the movie and the time we watch the movies now I'm just like hey that's this card it's this card this is a card as they happen yeah you know game was complete dog that I wanted to be there I wanted to love what the aliens vs. predator card game there were three factions yet aliens yet predators and you had Marines okay now I want to play the aliens that game was for sure it was so bad it was bad in like every conceivable way like I want you to like look at some of the art from that game let's see it were you looking at that on TV SD oh that's funny like there were so many cards so they tried to do the decipher thing where they would take stills from the show but I just from the movies and whatnot yeah so um you know what happens is when they need different types of aliens they just show you like blurt like from the movie aliens there's just like blurry aliens just like like half in frames and something that's like this is the alien guard they're just like half an alien inside the picture and stuff like that yeah it it was yeah bad that's pretty great yeah I gave everyone said that really well whereas card art part pictures I think Star Wars did the same thing the decipher Star Wars yeah if I can find the aliens because I didn't have I didn't buy the other decks cuz uh the group of friends all wanted to play different ones like I wanted to play the aliens somebody else when we play the Marines somebody else wanted to play the Predators and yeah and that game was like scenario-based it was basically a board game because like if it was Alien and Predator you had a scenario if it was Marines and aliens you had a scenario predator you had a scenario yeah and then if it was like a multiplayer game you had like another snare and like the aliens their goals were to like capture people and impregnate them and turn them into stuff and so like the most powerful there was the alien predator hybrid that you could make button you had to actually capture a predator which is like in impossible you just throw waves after waves after aliens of Xenomorphs into the predator to actually like try to capture the D using so yeah there's so many IPs though be really cool to revisit yeah I found say I think that game would be a sweet one that was that's probably a good candidate I think you could take possibly the um scenario idea behind it I'm sure he's like super cheese so x-files card game yeah the ones on my list things I think I think Casa Dante has some of that because it's like dirt cheap I was pretty dirty yeah so now here's the say that the the premise of that game is you're trying to figure out what the opponent's conspiracy is it's because everybody's just it's so cash grab stuff yeah the suit and they don't care about the IP and you have people you have people who don't get what makes alien and aliens great films that's like all the movies - because like aliens is great right alien is great that for that there's like a no action we have that we have to be honest predator is like an OK film at its core it's like ok good movie it's like it's it's past fun now there's a lot of we do we do have to be because predator 2 is awful it's not great but like the predator movie itself has a better reputation than it actually is there's a lot of like cool stuff that happens in that film but like the pretty awesome hopefully all the way through it I just say that he told me he'd be on the knife into the Vietnam guy and said stick around we have to take it great we gotta be honest predator is just an occasional fool it's just ok table top for males now it's better it's not transcendent like the original alien is in my opinion I think the original alien film is is that krycek yes look at expels cards yeah sooo aliens is very good hands extremely good the original alien film well I think the original film is like transcendent horror no it's good took excellent but aliens is like transcendent action yes yeah yeah because it's a different film yeah it's a very different style of film so yeah we need to get those neck spells at the CG got it's got pictures from the show - I just watch that show so the way that the way the game works you're trying to guess the opponents conspiracy and you're like investigating different things in different fashions now the Mulder and Scully for this game are apparently insane like that actually bonkers how good they are but they were like ultra rare or whatever I think that krycek card was actually like super ultra rare $15 yeah as I say it was like super expensive when that game was like popular I think he came out of one of the later sets but yeah three thousand dollars complete x-files CCG said three thousand dollars the geez a little bit by now Bob look at the dude oh my god my goodness the lamprey man the lamprey let me see if I get in to share my screen Oh browser believe that believe it beautiful performance and feature packed what is that I don't know it's a black spot I don't know that you scream lads you guys [Music] every one I never wanna up things that happen in XML that's still I do this day I never saw the incest episode because apparently it was too horrible home yeah I saw that when I was like eight yeah it's pretty terrifying and because the they never aired it again afterwards I know I watched it when it came on because I would always watch Fox on Sun nights as a kid yeah it was like it was it was back-to-back Power Hour yeah so yeah so this guy you think is really good I can do melons picture well there's the lamprey man proof carry cigarette smoking the cigarette smoking man was a man but he's bangin look like guy yeah also the eugene tooms's yeah squeeze pretty scary reaching towards you mm-hmm this uncut sheet no the next phallus that's pretty cool forty bucks like the great generation just cut them he's to get out there's only paper kind of quite reader nothing we know what it means oh yeah this like from the cards I read it does not seem that complicated which I like like Skinner was like draw two cards for the bureau deck or something yeah that sounds very simple you're like you yeah I don't 100% know I would gameplays but you would ask your question your points questions and stuff now they inquest back in the day did a card game versus card game tournament it was very funny because they just like made up arbitrary rules and there was an Illuminati card game and so they had x-files versus the Illuminati and the first turn the x-files player goes is your conspiracy the Illuminati and they win the game because they've guessed the opponents that's amazing they had battle tech versus magic and the magic player cast shatter storm which destroys all artifacts which all the mechs are considered to be artifact creatures for the purposes of the game and blow them all all those it look all those stats over here Skinner Illuminati got reprinted recently it's not super great mm it's a Steve Jackson game right like Steve got Steve Jackson games stopped aging in 2001 then they've just been printing the same game for twenty years so the thing is very good though yeah thing wargame was like okay but it was just mostly something felt like there was a balance issue waverly from a flavor perspective i felt like it delivered yeah but we felt like there was a balance issue else we got here I have to there's like the marble game the the overpower no the one that got repaired recently versus yeah versus not bad it's like super tomato sucks I think yeah it kind of sucks those the problem like because that game you want talk about a game that was not designed a game said they would design sets internally but then not test them with like previous sets so you ended up with all kinds of like broken stuff and you would end up with like the Green Lantern's like oh my god they were so good so stupid the green lighting versus got like DC and Marvel yeah so when they added DC they added they started adding this mechanic called willpower which basically invalid it every card that was printed before it because if you didn't have willpower then you were basically a second-class citizen so say I want to littering those actually I think it's pretty cheap yeah I remember box is always being pretty she's six dollars for starter 36 per box sealed box yeah ethology there's a bunch of good carbs in these mm-hmm mr. box thirty first set forty bucks shipped hey bad I think we have like between our friends at least if we played the crap of this game we pull yeah yeah but and sure we had Milan we have multiple place that's probably yeah if I had to guess losing that out deleting that box eka sleepy half of a day all right well I mean that's that's all I got it let's talk about yeah well we'll try to keep up with this as permitting as like apocalypse of permitting and yeah so thanks for watching we do appreciate you guys stopping by on the street yeah that's not really like keyboard you're right that's really even make sense yeah I mean this game let's let's let's close it out I think or with okay let's close it out with the rulebook I think that's the best best way to do that now a reading from the Doudna rulebook it's fine that's alright in terms of uh good what you time I'm fine where it like tells you how to went into the game or that's a great question that's still not right I'm actually I'll close it out with horde your spice the spice on your allegiance decks and spice packs and elsewhere but not merely decorative look for Imperial distance in which the emperor tells you where to mail your spice to get free cards and other great stuff the districts also contain information about tournament play upcome expansion upcoming expansions Imperial gossip and the Troma quarterly report upcoming expansions watch for these exciting dune I have a storm expansions judge of change thunder at Twilight and 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Length: 143min 7sec (8587 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 11 2020