Capture One 21 Livestream: Webinar | Working with Offline Photos

foreign good afternoon folks or good morning welcome to today's webinar which is all about working with offline photos and i shall explain what that means uh momentarily uh before we get to that if you're listening to us on facebook or youtube welcome and thanks for joining feel free to put questions in the comments either on youtube or facebook and they come straight through to me if you're in our webinar room and you want to ask a question you can do so just in the q a tab up at the top there that just keeps it separate from the main chat and it helps me just make sure that i'm not missing any questions or trying to respond to as many as possible if you want to hide the chat you can do so just by clicking that little down arrow and then that will give you a bit more real estate on screen all right so let us begin you might notice i am slightly croaky today so good news is that this is a relatively short webinar so hopefully i'll be able to last uh the time that we're going to spend which will probably be between 30 and 40 minutes so we definitely don't need the full hour i've got the mute button ready for any coughs or sneezes it's just a cold i'm not suffering with you know what so no worries there okay so the subject of this webinar is working with offline photos what does that actually mean well first of all we need to know a little bit about the way a catalog works in capture one what a preview is and what are the benefits so that's really the the three subjects that we're going to like it look at today so first of all what is a preview and why do we have it so we need to dig in a little bit to the catalog structure so if we right click up the top here we can actually find our capture on catalog so this is the catalog that i have open currently in capture one and we can see it has some size it's what 12 volt gigabytes but this catalog has 6 000 odd pictures in it so catalogs were designed to have a relatively small data footprint even if they stored a large number of images and i've got to be a bit careful when i say stored a large number of images because this current catalog that we're looking at is based on what we call referenced images so the catalog is on my internal hard drive as you can see it's in the pictures folder like so and the pictures or the actual images themselves are on this external hard drive you can see here this little ssd drive which we're going to unplug later and show it to you so you actually believe me so catalog on the internal hard drive photos on an external hard drive why would i want to do that first of all it's a laptop so i have a limited amount of space on my hard drive 500 gig or whatever maybe it's a terabyte this one i'm not sure anyway it's not feasible to store tens of thousands of pictures on my internal hard drive nor would i probably want to because obviously if the hard drive fails hopefully i will have a backup but there's some element of additional safety having the pictures nice and safely on an external hard drive which of course i can also back up online as well now purely 99 of the time for performance reasons then inside this catalog is something called a preview file and a preview file is a smaller version just a jpeg essentially of every single photo that you import into your catalog or if you are shooting tethered we create this small preview file and the reason being is that when you're browsing through a collection of photos in capture one so i'm just scrolling through these that the response is nice and snappy and you don't have to wait for capture one to go and look for the raw file read the data on the raw file imagine if it's 100 pixels 100 megapixels that would be kind of slow and then build the preview that you see in capture one's viewer so this way it's super speedy to move through a large collection of pictures so it's really about performance but there's also some other benefits too of course when i zoom in to 100 capture one then needs to go and look for the raw file so that we can see the photo in all its high resolution glory so that's really um the first reason why we have previews for performance just quick check on questions in case anyone missed anything um sebastian was saying is offline work impossible with sessions no or only with catalogs and that's a good question because with a catalog we have our centralized database that means as well as having our previews stored tucked inside here we have adjustment data we have metadata like camera information lens aperture keywords all that kind of stuff and then we also have additional capture one related data like magic brush masks luminosity masks other masks that you've drawn by hand and so on are all like little data files that relate to each of those photos so it's just really a big smart database but with a session it's not a centralized database the adjustments live alongside the pictures in a little subfolder next to them so it's not quite the same workflow but a good question so not true for sessions but sessions do indeed create a preview in exactly the same way but instead of it being a centralized database you'll see a folder called capture one that sits alongside the photos that holds that preview data so it's true of sessions in that way but the way they're stored is different one thing before we move on to another kind of benefit of previews and the whole offline thing quick cough break so i did hit the mute so hopefully didn't burst your eardrums um preview size is super important so if we go to capture one's preferences and then the third tab image then you'll see preview image size here like so and this really defines on the long edge uh the number of pixels or if you like the the length of pixels on the long edge that the preview image will be that we create now the size of this is important depending on the main if you like monitor that you're working on with capture one so where you're looking at the viewer if you like in capture one so what you're aiming to do is set the preview size to and if we keep it simple to the maximum dimensions of your monitor so if you had a 4k screen we would pick 3 840. if you had a 5k screen like a 5k imac you would pick five 120 if you're just on the 2k screen then you would pick 25.60 so that's really important by default it's set to 2560 which isn't going to be big enough what's going to happen if it's too small is that when you flick between pictures capture one will actually then have to recall the raw file each time and it would make adjusting sliders a bit slower and all those kinds of things so make sure your preview size fits a couple of thing another thing to be aware of is that if you change your preview size subsequently it's only going to have an effect for new images that are introduced to your catalog or session so what you can do is regenerate the preview so if i just do a shift select on this small collection of pictures here and say image regenerate previews right here let's bring up the activity window you'll see capture one is now regenerating now you don't need to sit and wait for this to finish which is often the case you can go ahead and open up any shot and then capture one will start prioritizing the preview for that particular shot so please don't sit here and wait for that activity bar to finish finish it's often a miss misunderstood action of capture one that you somehow have to wait for preview generation to finish you do not so when you import a bunch of photos into a catalog don't sit and wait you can actually go start moving through and culling rating editing etc straight away so please don't wait for that to finish but really important to set the right preview size for maximum performance okay um so question from a1 we're going to come to that don't worry i have quite a few raw files on my windows desktop which i've been working on how do i move those keeping all the changes the really important thing is that you do any move operations inside capture one that's super important um just checking questions over here as well um jeff i will answer your question at the end good point what happens if the preview size is bigger than the picture there's actually no detriment to having too big a preview size the only detriment really it takes a bit longer to make the preview but on a faster machine you won't really uh notice it to be honest um but for me there's no point whacking this up to 5k because i don't have a 5k monitor someone said earlier ah but even if you do have a 4k monitor and but you have you know relatively small viewer isn't that a waste of time and i said well not if you view things in full screen because then you are pretty much spanning the whole monitor so consider that you might want to view stuff in full screen as well can you minimize the activity window yeah you can just close it so you've got activities here you can just shut it down move it to another monitor just ignore it basically you'll have the spinning wheel up here in the top corner where you can actually see if anything is happening or is it under here i can't remember yeah just there so you'll know if something is is happening but you can pretty much uh ignore it keith um gussy says is there any reason why the pictures are soft in the viewer they shouldn't be that was like a pretty old bug so i would check which version of capture one you have 14 4 is the current release uh so just check that you're not on something older on this release cycle because there was a bug at some point that had some fuzzy uh viewers and also i think 14 3 we had an issue with some thumbnails as well so just make sure you're on the current release all right so what other benefits do we have as well so like working on offline because offline we've said or i've said a few times now so what does that actually mean so the whole point of this catalog database as well is that you can work on your pictures to you know a large extent without needing access to the raw files so let's go ahead and eject this ssd so you can see it's listed this one here in the folders till it's green that means it's online that's the point of having this little green tag here and then i'm just going to eject that like so now instantly this goes red and we get a warning triangle everywhere else i'm going to disconnect it so you don't think i'm cheating and show you the hard drive like so it's just a little samsung awesome drives samsung t5 yeah one terabyte can't recommend them highly enough so now this is offline so does that mean i can't do anything no it certainly doesn't i can still go in i can still edit my pictures no problem at all i do have a couple of restrictions where the raw data is necessary i've counted two well there's technically three but the first one if i make a new field adjustment layer i want and i want to do a loom range i can't because we need the raw data to be able to calculate that accurately equally if i grab the magic brush and do a squiggle i can't because the image is offline but everything else is up for grabs so you can go ahead you can play around with your shots make edits without necessarily having the weight of the hard drive with you you can also go ahead and make virtual collections and add pictures to virtual collections because these collections also belong in the catalog structure so if you want to make your collection and pick out some shots that you want to edit later on or print out or whatever then you can happily do that without needing access to the raw data okay now often we're asked okay well let's say i edit you know a whole bunch of pitch pictures i'm going to go through and make loads of adjustment is there some kind of lengthy synchronization thing that happens when i reconnect my hard drive no there isn't so why because again all those adjustments are stored in that centralized database so there's no synchronization that has to happen capture one is non-destructive so that means we never change the raw file we never edit the data in the raw file so we're just creating a set of instructions which is showing you how it's going to look in capture one so now if i just plug the little samsung back in again should connect pretty quickly warning triangles go away that's it so it's completely seamless in that respect all right um let me just check for questions um i think we're good um that one's been answered by i think victor who's online let's see and just checking for questions there sean i'll come back to yours at the end okay so i haven't forgotten about you all right good we're on track how do i know where the raw file is that's just a note i've got in front of me so let's say you you've got a bunch of pictures stored on not just one external hard drive but a couple of external hard drives you don't have to limit um yourself to storing your pictures in one location you could have someone external hard drives you could have someone internal you can move them between external internal we'll show you that as well because that was a question that came up earlier but you could have more than one image stored on a bunch of different drives so let's say you're working uh in a collection here we go so we've got a bunch of different shots here as an example and you could have tons of collections i have loads of collections on my personal catalog that i tend to work in but let's say you know all my drives are offline i don't have them any connect have them connected and i need to do something like exporting luma mask or whatever where i actually need access to the raw file there's a really handy thing that you can do which is right click and say show in library so if i click this here capture one will go straight to that collection and highlight the picture like so so i can see ah okay this particular shot is on traveler ssds so i need to plug that one in but if i had my images spread across three or four drives then instantly i know which drive i need to hook up so if you are you know not capable of hanging all the drives off your computer at the same time then that is an option that presents to you as well okay um how could you unintentionally make something offline so let's talk about moving stuff around let's just go back to blake's collection so we've got three different folders here blake blake and other and let's say i want to move some pictures around so how should i do that now you could be tempted to go into the finder or windows explorer let's just find this location right click and say show in finder or windows explorer and then i could start dragging pictures around in the finder or explorer don't do that why because a catalog it's not a file browser it's not constantly monitoring the collections that are present in your catalog so it's not always scanning and looking because that would be a huge performance detriment especially with larger catalogs it would be fine with if you just had 10 folders then it wouldn't be any performance issue at all to constantly monitor those folders but with larger catalogs it would be you know completely unfeasible so you shouldn't start dragging images around in finder or explorer you should do all of that in capture one which is dead simple and will save you a whole bunch of time so if i drag this file here and stick it in this one like so we get a warning it says the selected image will be moved so it's physically moved on disk and away we go and now now we can find that shot there it is hanging out in this folder where it shouldn't be like so and if i want to move it back then i can do so if you don't want this warning to come up because it can get annoying then you can just say don't show this message again and move if after consequently realizing that you do like that warning message and i do personally because if you can be a bit sloppy with a wacom and you're accidentally dragging folders around it's nice to know oh i accidentally dragged a folder so if you go into preferences and warnings you can always turn it back on if you wish so it's the first one in that particular list last tool tab here like so well not the last because this window is a bit small by the looks of it there should be a plug-in window yep plug-ins like so so this one here warnings uncheck the first one same occurs for folders you shouldn't also drag entire folders to different places you can also move that quite nicely around as well so if i grab other and just drag this into here capture one is going to move the entire folder if we look at it in finder itself you can see that's where the other folder is sitting like so if we want to bring it back out then we can just drag it to the top and it's done so any move operation like that you just simply need to do inside capture one now there was um uh a question earlier about if i want to move uh edits from you know images from one place to another and keep the edits well let's say you wanted to actually move some pictures to the internal hard drive how would i do that because right now capture one let's just close the collections for a second capture one's only aware of my traveler ssd hard drive it's not aware of my internal hard drive or anything else because i've never imported from that location so capture one doesn't know about it so what we can do is hit the plus button in folders and let's go to pictures and we're going to say new folder let's just call this blake pope others blake's one of our ambassadors if you didn't know and hit create and then add very important don't cancel it say add and now we've got another folder that capture one is aware of like so so what i can simply do if i wish i can drag let's just drag a few jpegs so it's nice and lightweight i can drag these four jpegs and move them physically across there like so so now i've got these four jpegs on my internal drive like so you can see them there so if that location doesn't exist on your hard drive then of course you can build it and move it across so that's one method let's say i was taking this laptop over there on a trip and i wanted to bring some images with me to edit but i didn't want to carry the hard drive because my setup at home is i have um a double enclosure one drive of data one drive of backup it's a big bulky thing i don't want to carry that with me but if i wanted to do some editing then i could easily transfer them over to my internal hard drive and then once i've come back home i can easily then drag them back to their external location like so helps if you select all of them david like so so now they've just come back out the only disadvantage of that is then i've then got this kind of useless folder tree here which i don't need anymore so there is um another method so notice we can see there's this little icon here called in catalog and what we can do is take a reference file so these are called reference files because capture one is referencing them at their location and we can turn them into managed files and what a managed file means is that it actually sits and lives inside the capture one catalog so if we take uh let's just take um a couple of raw files let's take these four and i'm going to drag them over to the in catalog icon like so and now they've got moved inside the catalogue and there's some old crap let's delete that and that was a test shot for a tethered webinar ages ago let's put that in the catalog trash so now these photos are sitting inside capture 121. now on a mac this is a packaged um file i think that's the the right right word to call it so if i right click and say show package contents please don't do this and mess around with the internal contents of your catalog because you will mess it up so this is what's sitting inside here we've got loads of catalog backups as you can see under originals if we've got some weird folders here we'll probably eventually find the raw files so they are now sitting safely inside um let's just go back capture onto anyone for those of you on windows this is actually a folder with kind of that open architecture but please don't go in there and start messing around because you're going to corrupt your catalogue i'm just showing you for demo purposes only so now even if i eject that hard drive once more let's get rid of this so now you can see this hard drive is offline unplug once more but i can still go in i can let's just turn this to black and white so we can see that it's definitely edited i've come back home i'm connecting my huge bulky hard drive back up again you get the idea so this will quickly come online like so and now i can copy or move sorry not copy move these back to where i want them like so and now if we look in this folder you can see it's black and white so those adjustments are coming with it but if i started you know messing around with moving things outside of capture one there's a high chance that this isn't going to go smoothly but if you do accidentally do that can you repair the mistake that you have made and yes you can let's just check on a question let's see raphael says i use a macbook on travels but windows computer in the office pitches on an external disk and not compatible between computers they should be but you would need to format the external disk as windows fat32 which i pretty sure will work but performance wise on a mac it's gonna suffer a little bit but you could try that um just checking for other questions keith i saw you had a question but it was answered so that's good um other options so we had a few questions this morning about people traveling with different computers uh i mean performance wise we could argue that the best performance is to have your catalog on the internal drive and your and photos either also on the internal drive or on an external however depending on the speed of the connected storage and how it's connected like if i opened a catalog directly from the ssd i wouldn't see any noticeable performance change so if you've got good speedy external storage and it's connected via a fast connection this is usbc i think i don't think it's thunderbolt but it's uh usbc then you're not going to see any performance detriment so there's nothing to stop you walking a a hard drive from computer a to computer b and opening up the catalog works absolutely fine obviously you want to make sure that was backed up somewhere but there's no reason why you can't do that whatsoever james says exfat might be a better format to use that's in answer to raphael so try that sorry i'm a bit out of touch with my windows disk format so yeah give that a go so yeah if you are traveling between computers that's also another way or um i saw my colleague answered you can also export eips from one place and then import those to another place and the eip file which you've seen on here contains all the adjustments as well so there's a few ways of of doing it you can merge catalogs kind of a bunch of different different things a little bit out of scope for this uh webinar but it is possible but the easiest way is to have catalog and images on a small external drive like that that little one's a terabyte which is is pretty beefy and you can easily walk that between different machines no problem whatsoever so that's reference to managed and managed to reference so nice and simple so how could you unintentionally screw something up well let's do it thank god for that mute button eh right let's um let's just find okay we've got a bunch of jpegs in this folder let's find something that's easily identifiable let's go tasty nachos why not let's right click and say showing finder so that's this one here so we're going to do the wrong thing and we're going to move tasty nachos to the other folder like so immediately it says it's offline oh dear what am i going to do well we can right click and we can say locate you can just see it next to my head and then we need to go and find where it is now hopefully you can remember where it is you might have to search that could be one way to do it but otherwise i think i can remember uh where i put it actually where did i put it after all that blake pope other so it's number this one here massimo number 695 and say open it's going to disappear from that collection and now be present somewhere in this collection it's just behind my head let's just reverse that so you can see it like so tasty nachos now in that spot hopefully you can see that's a whole lot more effort than just doing that drag and drop so there's absolutely zero benefit to trying to do those things in the finder or windows explorer you'll just get tied in knots and have to go through that locate process same thing applies for folders let's do a stupid thing and move this folder in finder now the folder or every single image is offline so we can right click and say locate and we can go to um where is it there we go demo catalog demonstration images scroll down too much and find it down here so as you can see that was a bit of a pain to go through that process it's much easier again drag and drop like so simple um good i think we're almost there actually i'm just going to have a quick peek through the questions another advantage to this which i forgot to mention earlier this is a way to work with an external editor so for example if i sent this catalog like just zipped it up and stuck it on dropbox or or we transfer or something like that they could open it they could go through they could do some editing with the limitations that we spoke about send me that catalog back i open it back up and then all my all the adjustments are there which were done with my external editor so if you do want an external editor to help you or if you want to send you know a catalog to a friend what do you think of my shots any ideas for adjustment or do you have any good styles that you could apply then this is a way to easily transfer lightweight catalog without having to send raw files so even if you sent you know 50 shots 50 raw files would kind of get quite fat quickly catalog with 50 pictures in it that's tiny that's nothing whatsoever but they could see them they could edit them they could whiz them back happy days so that's a good way to do it uh gareth how do i move my catalog from an internal c drive to make an external easy i do it all the time because what i do this catalog here actually let's um just close it for a second this catalog is just something that sits on you can see some ancient catalogs here that sits on the external hard drive and then what i do is i maintain this catalog it's like my master demo catalog and so on and then every time i do a webinar i drag it from the external hard drive to the pictures folder let's just put it in documents like that and now you see it's going across this one's 12 gig but it doesn't take long to do and then i just simply open it and that's it so it's uh it's nothing more complicated than that gareth it's just you move the catalog because the catalog knows where your images are and the hard drive that that they're on so it doesn't really matter where the catalog is so and the reason why i do this is that it means every time i do a webinar of course i screw around the catalog i adjust some images i move things around so it's kind of you know messed up but then i've always got the the master if you like which is is untouched so we'll just let this guy finish and then we can open it back up and we're done so now double click and it's open and it's referencing those pictures like so so it's it's really as simple as that i mean i think the best thing i can say is that consider this is a document it's actually referred to internally as a document so the catalog is a document the session is a document like you would open a document in word you're opening a catalog in capture one so if you wanted to open that word file from another disk you would just move the word file this is exactly the same we're just putting that catalog document wherever we want the catalog knows where the images are which hard drives they're on and so on so where that catalog sits in that respect doesn't make any difference okay i think if i haven't missed anything that pretty much covers everything that i wanted to say about previews offline files moving stuff around in today's webinar so i'm going to have a look at the questions and let's see so good one michael i hopefully just answer that why'd you move files inside of capture one but catalogues outside with a catalogue as i said it's a document it's like a word document so like you would move the letters and words and paragraphs around inside word the actual document the word document doesn't matter where that is um same for a catalog now obviously if i put this catalog on a super crappy usb one drive spinning at 2000 rpm then the performance is going to be crap but because it's on a super speedy usbc ssd drive there's no perceptible performance drop so just just think of that uh oh that's a good i'm not even gonna attempt to pronounce this heroic cundus that's my best effort i think better to keep cataloguing an ssd than an old-fashioned hard drive does it same apply to the raw files um you know what i wish i had alex here our product manager because he went through this painful process of transferring all his images to solid state and i'm not sure if it actually made much difference at the end of the day um someone might know better than me but but to be honest if your operating system and applications and etc is all on an ssd that makes a massive difference for the actual raw pictures as long as it's not you know an ancient hard drive then i don't think it matters i have my um my own pictures on two external three and a half inch drives but they're connected by usbc so the rewrite speed is pretty good and i don't notice any performance deficit compared to the ssd in capture one so um i wouldn't think there would be that much difference but for your internal hard drive if that's a spinner it makes a massive difference i mean i have an old macbook pro and an old imac which i converted from spinning hard drive to ssd and it's it's you know chalk and cheese it's a huge difference so if you can invest in uh ssd it makes a difference and something which you know aside to that when you're copying data to and from an ssd it's also super speedy so uh barry i work in sessions where does c1 store the previews yes it's in within this uh the folder associated with the session so catalog has that centralized database sessions it sits alongside the pictures which is why there's not really that offline workflow and with sessions um abbot good answer from about ssd should help with quickly navigating among images i agree ssd are generally more reliable and hdd as well and the cost has gone down a lot as well so i think when these three and a half inch drives die that i've got under my desk i'm going to chuck them out because it's also a big enclosure it's got fan in it probably uses more power so to have a couple of little rinky dink ssd chips just makes a whole lot more sense to be honest uh let's see just checking in the questions oh lots of questions came in okay what's the maximum number of files that can be in a catalog it's it's really hardware dependent so if you had an old machine with a crappy hard drive less if you have a super speedy m1 mac with ssds all over the place a lot more so there really is no best practice i mean it performance has improved dramatically throughout this release cycle like 14.4 um increased windows loading speed of a collection by about 400 to 600 percent so that's a massive increase in this release so if you're on capture one eight compared to capture on 21 it's going to be a massive difference even capture on 12 compared to capture 121 will be a massive difference for catalog performance so don't base your assumptions on old news if you like try it out for yourself we answered that jeff was asking and i think this relates to gary gary b zedd a question as well is there any reason to bring sessions into a catalogue at some point this is something i do so i tend to work in sessions when i'm moving around and then i import the sessions into a catalog when i'm done with it and gary that that would work for you as well if you wanna overview of all your sessions then you can say file import session and you just need to point to the session db of your particular session but important note the database of the session and the catalog do not talk to each other after that point so if you make an adjustment in the session it won't be reflected in the catalog so think of it as an archival process um [Music] sean said i try to export the tiff dng raw that i process and it exports the unedited file i found that i can only export image by jpeg yeah sean so if you wanna if you wanna export the raw file with edits then you're looking at an eip remember different raw converters have completely different processing engines so you can't edit a picture in capture one and open it up in adobe camera raw for example and expect it to look the same because the languages don't compute if you like so you can export as an eip which you can send to someone and they can open it in capture one but you can't embed raw data into a dng file and expect that to open in another application george says can you comment on using a cloud folder for originals you can i would just be diligent i would say so if you're storing your catalog on dropbox or google drive or something like that where i've seen it go sideways is that let's say i open the catalog on my computer i do some stuff dropbox needs to sync up if i close capture one before or if i sorry shut my computer down before dropbox has finished its synchronization i go to another machine and try to open that catalog in dropbox then then it goes sideways so you can do it but you just have to be diligent and make sure you don't do anything stupid with the cloud service make sure it's synchronized before you shut down uh does c1 write image edit into the xmp files mike was asking no it doesn't um we write you can write you can set it as an option to write metadata into xmp files um but xmp was never designed for image data it was only or editing data it was only designed for um metadata like keywords camera data and so on copyright so we didn't adopt writing image data in there because it's not actually a suitable format to hold things like layer information layer masks you can't write that into an xmp file unfortunately so no um anchor we answered your question that was about cloud folders again um when the previews are being created some settings are being applied where are those settings stored well default settings in capture one so if we let's just make a is this being edited no let's reset this so this is the default of capture one and the only defaults really that happen base characteristic so that would be the camera profile there will be some um sharpening and noise reduction applied which every single raw converter does and there will also be some kind of curve applied this is a fuji camera so it's also got film simulations uh if you really don't want any of that you would need to choose linear response and get rid of sharpening and put all noise reduction down to zero but you're basically making a whole lot more work for yourself to be honest there's no real benefit in doing that but that's if you like the defaults um craig has a question that i also have oh john says craig has a question that i also have um when i do a travel shoot and i use my laptop and utilize a new travel catalog upon return to my main studio with the mac pro my large catalog what's the best way to combine them i've used differing methods over the years what's the best now well i guess that the easiest way to how would i do that that is a good question i find it easier with sessions to be honest because because i just import sessions but if you wanted to stay in a catalog workflow which i also understand i would say imagine this is your main computer you would say you would connect your hard drive did you say it was on a hard drive uh you used one up new travel catalog and that was the best idea yeah well i would say if it's on an external hard drive that's going to make your job easier because you would say file import catalog capture on catalog you would point to the catalog i'm not going to import this catalog into itself god knows what will happen then let it import and then of course your travel images will still be sitting on an external hard drive then you could move them onto the main mac as you saw we do earlier i think that would be the far easiest way to do it i would think so try that john could you please explain the best workflow to edit pictures stored on an astro local network um it's wholly dependent on the speed of your nas i would say i mean you've kind of answered your own question use the nasa's archive only lots of people have success with editing of nas some people don't so it depends a lot on your network speed so if you've got good network speed fast read write access it's just like working off a hard drive if you have poor network speed and poor disk rewrite access you might find it's not good but then you could easily do this method you could have like a editing folder here so or a work folder work in progress and then when you were done you could dump it across to the nas and then this way you're going to get the benefit of speedy access of working internally but not filling up your hard drive with loads of pictures and then when you're archiving it you could then move it to the nas drive i think that's what i would do personally and it also means if you're not attached to the nas you could still have access to your work in progress stuff so that's what i would do cyril can you change a session into a catalog sebastian was asking no but you can import a session into a catalog and then it kind of becomes a catalog um there is some resources on that pretty sure the webinar managing your capture one catalog has a bit about oh no it's sorry working with sessions so the webinar on youtube working with sessions or on a learning hub there's a bit at the end of that which talks about importing into catalogs so have a watch of that and then that will um should clear your mind on that one okay i think that's almost it uh cyril we answered your question um landon says i found that working with the catalog in icloud storage works well good con from george if you don't have internet access then you're screwed of course but you do have a local copy on your drive which in theory once you have internet access will update but this is you know where it can be an issue but if you have success that's good i think some cloud services are better than other um abba that's also a good good idea for travel i find it easy to use a managed catalog on the road then i import the managed catalogue into the main at home and finish by dragging the new images out of the catalog onto the main library david described this earlier that's also a great idea so actually it when you're on the road when you import images where's the import window so you would say import copy into catalog so that's making them managed so essentially what you've got when you come back is you have your catalog with all your travel images stuffed into it you move that onto your main computer and import and then you would drag out the manage files into whichever location you want so that's actually a really good idea as well and last comment from uh mathias says have you experienced a corrupt catalogue moving between drives how would you fix that i haven't actually i mean i do this two times a day every week and it's never corrupted but if it did corrupt i've got a backup so then i'm not worried about it so backup is key it's easy on a mac because time machine is just backing up every hour periodically so um that's just really the easiest way to do it for me but i've never had that corruption it's not you you could be really unlucky like as you're copying power cut or something like like that but the original is still there because if you're moving it from a different hard drive it's only the the copied one that's going to be screwed up um will the manage files oh hi craig uh will the manage files be seen accessible from within the manage catalogs yeah exactly so they will just literally sit you'll see them inside here so the nice thing about the managed catalogs is that they're entirely portable so you can just move them from computer to computer from hard drive to hard drive the only real disadvantage with managed catalogs is of course let's pretend this one was managed is it limited to the size of the hard drive that it sits on so this catalog if this was a managed catalog would be limited to a couple hundred gig and then it would be full up but if it's for small catalogs for moving around then managed actually works super super nice and the ability to go manage to reference is also pretty easy as well but just be aware you know image files are pretty big especially if you've got 50 megapixel 100 megapixel cameras and so on you will run out of hard drive space pretty quick but for smaller catalogs and for portability it's um an excellent solution all right i think that's it that was a lot of questions well done gang you were very responsive uh today uh randy hey randy can you say that one more time about when on the road than putting images in the catalog yeah so let's try and sim so let's say we're on the road we've got a new catalog and it's going to be a managed catalog let's store this on an external hard drive let's try and do the workflow so it's on my external hard drive like so so we've got a brand new managed catalog we're going to import some images there we go let's grab that one and we're going to copy it into the catalog let's just reset all of this um naming business so it's not screwed up so it's going to be inside the catalog so import images there we go we've got one image inside the catalog like so we've come back home we've had a fantastic trip let's close this catalog down let's i'm going to make another catalog so i've got a feeling that image belongs in there ah doesn't matter let's just do that anyway so we've had a fantastic trip we've got our manage catalog sitting there quite nicely so we're going to say file import catalog capture on catalog i'm going to point to the manage catalog and say import if you get duplicates excuse me you actually get a warning like this which is quite nice so which one would you like to keep the existing the one that i'm going to import or both of them and then it will make another variant so let's just say imported like so so now um we've got our shot so what's the date today it's the 13th of october is it um oh because it was already existing so it didn't do it properly so i should have done a new catalog hang on screwed up that demo so let's make a new catalog let's just call this at home catalog and we're going to put this in the pictures folder like so we're going to import that catalog get it right this time david uh to my external hard drive the manage catalog and say import and there it is in catalog like so so we've successfully imported this image into the in-home catalog and then i could drag it to whatever location i wanted to now this catalog didn't have any others but if we made it aware of my pictures folder and i just write trees like so then i could get that from a managed to a reference like so hope that makes sense randy so that that's actually thanks to weber a really nice way to do it so if you're not going to shoot more than the size of your hard drive on the road using a managed catalog could actually be a really nice solution just make sure you back it up as well like everything else phew right before i lose my voice again great questions everybody you've expanded the scope of the webinar quite nicely into things that probably wasn't going to be on the list but that that's fine um next week there's no webinar but there is uh a live session with our ambassador paul reefer which we're going to do on location which is destined to be a disaster but hey what could possibly go wrong trying to live stream from the side of a cliff but we'll give it a go and we're trying to see uh what what we can do but that's the plan for next week at least and i might have more of a voice then and we'll see what happens so take care everybody enjoy uh the rest of your thursday and see you all next week from a windy cliff top hopefully fingers crossed take care bye you

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Published: Thu Oct 14 2021