Canoo - The new EV Muscle Van | Sandy & Canoo CEO Tony Aquila

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I really want these guys to succeed and have vehicles available to purchase. The design is weird, but I like it enough to consider it for my first EV (if it comes out).

I would love a 300 mile range version of this (I think it says around 250), but we shall see. Great video, really liking the bubble front glass area.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 31 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Gromby πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 09 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

I had hoped that Canoo had a future, but was hesitant about the viability.

I knew some of the advantages that the flexibility the design brought, but this video really brings that home. So many good ideas, and it's interesting how the reusability is designed in, "Designed for the second owner" is a neat way of saying it. (Really like the sneaky little slam they got in there, First owner buys a Cadillac, second owner buys a Chevy)

I don't know what the pricing is going to be, I suspect it will be premium because of all those options in the flexibility, but should begin to look really good when considered over the vehicle life.

Funny they went to the trouble of blurring out the Walmart logo at first, but then left the flower emblem in view later on.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 13 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/shaggy99 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 09 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Hadn’t seen this yet- thanks for posting. I heard Sandy took a look at this thing, but didn’t realize there was actually a video.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 8 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/FamousListen9 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 09 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

This is kind of an amazing vehicle. That glass window where the car grille usually sits, is genius.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 8 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Vanilla35 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 09 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

How many times did he say β€œoh I love that!”

To summarize, he called it a real winner.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 9 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Kengriffinspimp πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 09 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Shouldn't he disclose if he has business affiliation with the company, including stocks in the company?

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I see this thing being way more valuable as a work vehicle than a family vehicle. Right off the bat, those rear seats have got to fold down a hell of a lot flatter than that if it's going to be a multi use family hauler. Having those big ass seats be right there would make loading big items a huge pain in the ass. For every "ooh what an neat idea" bit there seems to be a "oof that would suck to live with" counter. Those side seats seem kind of cool at first but actually sitting in them on a road trip would suck big time. Everyone's legs getting jammed into the same place and constant slight push to your side while moving and stopping would be horrible for any trip longer than 15 minutes. Those seats force them to use of regular doors instead of sliding doors which is a huge disadvantage for family life. Also, they can GTFO w/pimping tie downs for a baby seat on the damn floor. That screams none of the designers currently have kids. Nobody is going to want to get down on the dirty ass floor to put their kid in a seat.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/ElGranQuesoRojo πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 10 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Getting Sandy's approval like this is equivalent to a young comedian doing their standup routine on The Tonight Show and getting the nod from Jay Leno. Canoo will be a success.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 1 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Freds_Premium πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Dec 10 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Has anyone been able to place an order in Canada? I need to order 2

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- But anyways, let's... (car revs) - Just stay in it, just stay in it. Stay in it. - Yikes, that's close. - See, I told you, you had it. - Yeah, you did. I don't know if I've got any tire left. - Oh, you got plenty. (energetic music) - But this conversation has been pretty good. So let me just get started. Hey boys and girls, I'm here with Tony, and we're gonna be talkin' a little bit about the new Canoo vehicle and we've been talkin' just a little bit and I decided that I'm going to jump right in because the conversation that we've had so far has been, I think, something you should know about. So before I jump in, I'm gonna tell you what I told Tony, and that is that I have a picture of Buckminster Fuller's vehicle. It's from the '20s or the '30s or something, a long, long time ago. It only had three wheels, and that was its demise. But this reminds me a lot of what he put into his vehicle. And he designed the vehicle for what you just told me, which was, we want to have this for ergonomics and for ease and simplicity of build and stuff like that. So I'd like to maybe just hear a little bit about what you have to say on that topic. And then we can go in and talk maybe about the wheelchair access. I think it's really important. - Yeah, well, so if you think about a vehicle, it's from the outside, everybody tries to capture you. That's kind of the thought process on a vehicle. But in reality, once you get inside, whether it's $100,000 vehicle or $50,000 vehicle the spread's not that big. And so in order to actually do it from the inside out, you end up with a bit of a polarizing approach. But that means you have to focus on ingress, egress, movement of the body, and then of all bodies. Those that are in a wheelchair or those that are working or first responders. So you have protection to your backside. You have access for use. I mean, this is more about how a person functions first. And that's one of the things that I think is pretty great. Obviously, it's something having spent a bit of time in a wheelchair myself, I have an appreciation for what that does to you in mobility. (clears throat) So we really tried to focus on the fact that you should be able to take... If you think about it, a round shape has greater capabilities than a square one. So if I throw an orange in the air, it'll drop and roll. If I take a square, throw it up in the air, it'll drop on a corner. It's just math. - Yeah. - It's also more mass. So what we wanted to do is get you in the inside of the car and have you fall in love with the respect that you got, and then come outside and fall in love with it. That was kind of the concept there. - Well, I don't know if you ever met a guy named Dean Kamen but he invented a wheelchair that he felt gave respect back to people who had been disabled. And his wheelchair basically popped up in the air and he took it up the Eiffel Tower using the staircase, not the elevator. Dean is a wizard. I mean, he's a true genius. And for right here... And I won't kid you for a second, if he came up with something and I thought it was good, I would shamelessly copy it. But what I'm lookin' at here, we were just talkin' a little bit ago, and (clears throat) I'm looking at that riser right there, and I'm looking at access back here, and what I could do is or what you could do is just slide something out, bring it down, the wheelchair goes in, goes up, goes back inside, and now, because I've got what, a good four inches there, I can make it so that the wheelchair access person can slide right in and take over on the controls. And with electric vehicles, it's so much simpler to make it so that a handicapped person could have the access and have the ability to drive themselves wherever they want to go, giving back a lot of dignity. I think this is brilliant. - Yeah. - I'm pretty happy with with that aspect. And this is the first time I've seen the inside of it. Normally I get a chance to fiddle around more, but yeah. And I like that right there. - Yeah, and Sandy, when you drive by wire, and you break by wire, and you harmonize and articulate it, you get a cognitive platform. So the ability to actually remove the seat and be able to have the wheelchair integrate with the drive-by wire mechanism is totally capable. - Piece of cake. It should be a piece of cake. - Instead of mechanical, you're using technology. - It's a docking system. - That's right. You just come in-- - It's a plug-and-play. - Click, boom, play. (snaps) It works. - Yeah, and that's why we tried to keep everything modular. The other thing people don't really care about, which if you really care about residual value, so I have a belief system that when you develop a vehicle, you should develop it from the second owner's perspective. And otherwise you're corrupted by the clear warranty concept, which gets you into a cost model, which then creates residual problems, which then creates a pricing model problem. - Right. - And having built all these data cubes for vehicles, we really concentrated on being able to say, "Well, if I'm the second owner, "what's gonna be important? "What should be where, what should not be where?" And that's where you start to spend your money. And then that causes you to really say, "Well, what can I do away with?" Because those things in the second owner or actually they don't help the vehicle. If you take certain things in Cadillacs, for example. The first owner buys a Cadillac, the second owner buys a Chevy, right? - Yeah. - (clears throat) Because all those other items start to wear out. So when you do that though, you have to kind of really stay focused on minimalism with maximum functionality. - Yeah. - That is a big tenant of the way we look at it. - Well, you've got a quite a bit of functionality. And so let's just dive into one thing that... Okay, so, when I worked at Ford Motor Company, I wanted side-facing seats for the Ranger and obviously when the door closes, this seat is sides facing. And I was told, "Oh, you can't do that. "People are dying (snaps) instantly "as soon as they sit on a side-facing seat." So here I'm looking at one, and I'm going, "Somebody either lied to me "or you're gonna be arrested tomorrow." So how did this come about? - So this was a lot of controversy actually. And I think two of the team members, Richard and Sohill, were pretty focused on this as being a capability. Because normally in a square vehicle you're more vulnerable to a side hit. And so, however, when you have a more structural round, and you have such a wide (taps) system here, you get a better contact. So, and then they have a bunch of patented technology for crumple zones, which kind of help down low. - Well, you gotta airbag in here as well. - Exactly, and you got an airbag. - Yeah. - And so the reality of it is when that use case is being done, it's either on long straight freeway activity or it's within low-speed short distance. - [Sandy] Yeah. - So it kind of actually makes a lot of sense for the use case. The way it's designed, it's nice because the door won't open if the seat's out. So it's got a lot of safety features to it. And ironically, it also turns into a leg rest for people when they're driving. So they feel in a much more luxury approach to the vehicle. - Huh! So how much diversity do you have in this thing? I'm thinking, could I put a litter in here? I'm thinking, we do a lot of military stuff. I'm wondering if this could turn into like an ambulance or something ambulatory. - Yeah, so, this vehicle is designed for those use cases. And actually, let me just close this. So what we wanted to do is be able to have a doctor on call, like Doctors Without Borders. Be able to interact with someone. Still have the proper distancing and that's a whole another use case. But for the military example, they have I think 20,000 vans. Just take the Navy and the Coast Guard, where they're picking up sailors for various things and moving them around when they're in port and they don't have a vehicle that's electric. They have those big, old-fashioned vans and they're looking for something of this type of nature to be able to do it. But you can also take this stuff out and you can make it into an ambulance. I mean, if you look at your ability to actually do something here, I'm only bent less than 30%. That's a full trunk back there, by the way. - Yeah. - It just goes straight up. - I was just wondering if maybe this could just... Oh, and that's the other thing. Look at that. Oh my God, here's another thing. When I was working for actually a whole bunch of different companies, "No way, we can't, not even a...," and here it is. So you look at a seat that you could use for conversation and whatnot, you've got it in, everybody else is going, "Oh, you can't do that." And that's when I figure is the 99.9% of all the great ideas that got shot down. It's not because it couldn't be done, it's because people were much easier to say no. When I worked with different car companies, I watched who got promoted. The guy that gets promoted is the one that says, "No, it can't be done." He gets a... And the guy that says, "Hey, I think we should," he gets put out. And I know that from personal experience. but this is really kind of... I see a lot more opportunity than I did when I just saw the egg sitting outside. - Yeah, so that's why I was saying, once you get inside it, you realize, like, when I talk about minimum... - Let me just try this. - Yeah, yeah, sure. - I didn't get on this side yet. I've already tried that thing. - Minimum functionality, or minimalism with maximum functionality, here you start to think of dual purpose. You want everything to have multiple things that it can do for someone. - Yeah, yeah. - And like for example, I mean, it has roll down windows in the back. If you get picked up by an Uber driver late at night, he's been driving all day long and you go through a drive-through, and your food gets handed to you by someone else. We tried to think of all those things, that contact, you know, thinking about how one would live. And so you think about it, you can do all kinds of different things for business. Now, when you take this and you make it into a delivery vehicle, you literally can have a very specific one that is made for delivery. Or you can literally, because everything is easy to take out, you could set this up as a delivery vehicle as well. - Yeah, so one of the questions that I had when I looked at this thing was, how in the world did they get away with rollover? Now what I didn't see was this massive... - [Tony] Yeah. - [Sandy] This is a C pillar. This is a B pillar. That's a D pillar. And I guess that's an E pillar. - And that's correct. - You've got a tremendous amount of rollover capability. - Yeah. - This is, (knocks) I don't know what's underneath here, but I already tapped and it sounds pretty solid. I guess from the outside, you can't see what's going on here. From the inside, this looks a lot more amazing than what I was anticipating. - So think of a submarine, right? A submarine can go into the water, the center of it is round, otherwise it'll crush. - Right. - And so the same thing happens in rollover effect. If you actually study the more circular the vehicle, it's like judo versus a square is like (claps) boxing. - Yeah, yeah. - And so when you design it, you design it such, and you get much more tuck and roll. - No, this looks... I'm pleasantly surprised. This morning I looked at (chuckles) something, I was expecting a lot from another car company. And it rolled in and I looked at it and I said, "Really, I don't like that. "What's this? "How come it's that?" Then they opened up, I can't believe. And on, and on, and on. So I'm happy when I'm pleasantly surprised. Now I know that Eric said, "Oh, we gotta have more, (chuckles) "complaining and do a tirade." Well, I'm not gonna do it on something that I think has a lot of opportunity, especially, again, back to this is the ideal taxi cab. This is better than London cab, which I think a lot of, especially if you had-- - [Tony] But also if you're moving senior citizens around. - [Sandy] I'm telling you, that's... - Veterans, first responders. (claps) - Yeah. - You're a fully kitted soldier. - Yeah, well, here's the deal. Like we do work on that kind of stuff, and bringing in a fully-kitted soldier with a 42-pound pack, a 50-pound pack, something like that, plus a machine gun and whatnot. And they're all climbing in to try and get the hell out of dodge. - Yeah. - In a hurry. And let's face it, it's no secret the military is looking for electric vehicles. They need quiet. And what's the main problem associated with any outpost? Oh, getting diesel fuel. - Yeah. - And then-- - That's where all your lives are lost. - And that's most of the lives are lost. So electricity is the way to go and this looks like it could be easily turned into a trooper. - Yeah, and the other thing we really wanted is modularity. So when you go to the second owner, if you're thinking of the second owner, you think modularity because the second owner's gonna wanna make some things unique to himself. And it should be easy to change the interior. This is a pegboard system. So I can decide where I want my cup. I can decide where I want things. In addition to that, you wanna be able to change your infotainment system. So the infotainment system here is democratized. - Ouch! - From the vehicle. So this way, when you have a dash, you basically are staring at China. And so by democratizing it, why can't I upgrade it like my iPad? Why can't I upgrade? Notice the easy access of where the speaker systems go. And by the way, if you want a home theater effect, a circular dome gives you greater sound than a square. - [Sandy] Yeah. - [Tony] So it sounds like a movie theater. - No sharp edges to bounce off. That's why they have a hyperbolic dish. And actually, I just noticed something else here. I just noticed this thing. What a great idea. - Isn't that great? - I can see the ground. - We recently did a test with a customer and they had accident frequency with another vehicle. And on this one, the drivers attributed it... We had none and they attributed it to the fact that they had no blind spots. Look at your field of view. Think of yourself as a driver, a professional driver, or a soldier, or a family, just children, pets, post office. - Yeah, I see a lot of... Yes, I do like this kind of steering wheel. I mean, Elon Musk, I heard millions of people say, "Oh, can't do that." Elon puts it out. "Well, he is gonna get into big trouble." And on my cyber truck, this is a nice place. I want a cyber truck. But anyway, on my cyber truck, I'm asking for this. I don't want a big round steering wheel that blocks my view to everything, I want something like this. And I like that as well. This is... - 'Cause we study accident data very intensely. Your left eye will hold your head straight. - Yeah, right. - Your right eye, if you put things in the center, it tilts your head down. And so we tried to really think through how to reduce accident frequency and increase someone's awareness in the way they drive. - Well this is definitely a stripped down version of nothing left except for what you need and I'm a big fan of minimal. I don't know if you've ever heard that. Personally, (giggles) we can have a discussion on chrome all day long. I'm not a fan, but at the end of the day, what I see is what I can get my hands on. I like the steering wheel. I love that. I absolutely love that thing. So anyhow, you're gonna show us the inside of the factory as well. - Yeah. - I'm eager to see what that's gonna look like. - Yeah, and so, another thing, Sandy, is it is a full trunk. The great thing is like, have you ever tried to put a set of golf clubs in a regular vehicle? It's a disaster. Here you could stack three bags up. We have actually an accessory. - Three bags? - And you still have space. It's kind of crazy when you think of it how much space you actually have there. And it very easily opens up. You have access. You get lots of space. I mean, it's great for pets. Pets love being in the center section there. You can put the kennel in there as well. We have hooks to tie it down. - Yeah, there's a lot of... There's definitely a lot of space in here. You just, another thing I guess is you reinvented the minivan. Now everybody's running away from that so that they can get a whatever they're called, SUV kind of vehicle, which I don't buy into, but a crossover anyway. Everybody's runnin' to that. Chrysler, I think, (chuckles) I have no idea what they were thinking, but they dominated the marketplace for the minivan, and now they're out of it completely. So all of a sudden you've got the car, the vehicle that will take over that whole... And I'll tell you what, I'll betcha anything, I'll betcha anything is a whole lot simpler to get baby chairs outta this. - Oh yeah. This is really, really easy. - Oops! Oh, there we are. So, getting baby chairs in here, as long as you don't have like eight kids or something, I guess, then this is gonna be-- - Well we, yeah, we have tie down hooks you can set into the center section as well. So you actually-- - Oh, really? For bats and things like that? - Yeah, you actually have-- - Cool. - A lot more functionality than you think. Again, if you design a car for looks, you're not gonna get functionality. If you design for functionality, then you gotta find a way to make it look timeless. - Yeah. - And I think this shape becomes a timeless shape. - Well, as far as I'm concerned, like I said, one of my heroes came up with something like this and it was basically destroyed by the press who wanted things that didn't look like that modern. So this is ancient and modern at the same time. - [Tony] Yeah, I mean, you've got the old-fashioned style, wide door. - Yeah. - [Tony] But you gotta make it light and super strong. - Well the big thing that Corey wanted to know about when I left was, 'cause he was, he wanted to come, but it didn't work out. But anyway, he said, "Find out how they can do crash. "How can they do rollover in this thing?" And so that's his question is answered now. This thing is rock solid. - It's pretty hard. It's very, very hard to roll this design. In fact, if you look at some of the videos where we have it sliding down a hill, because of the weight distribution and the shape, it performs incredibly well. (upbeat music) So this is the MPP1. And the MPP1 one is democratized for a reason. Because if you wanna be able to change your top pads, you have to have something very easy. You have to have a variable system, and you want it to be a six hour-ish labor operation. - [Sandy] Right. - And so that's what we did here. And the batteries are modular so that you can repair or replace and upgrade. And we were talking about those doors. Here's where you have some of those crumple zones. Actually we don't have on this one. They bolt in, which absorb a lot of the inertia. And that's patented. - Here's something you should be interested in or check out. So John McElroy and I, and a couple of other people, were talking about what's the future of cars? And this is like about, I dunno, 10 years ago or something like that. And so it came to my turn and I said, "Body on frame," and he said, "Oh my God." Everybody started laughing. "Don't you realize that's been proven 100 years ago." So proven 100 years ago, but you know what? I do a lot of costing and you know what? It's cheaper to do it this way. - [Tony] Yes. - [Sandy] "Oh, no, it's weighs more." Really? Well, no it doesn't. - [Tony] No it doesn't. - And all these other things that were... These were holies. I mean, you couldn't possibly tell anybody that a uni body was the wrong way to go. "Oh, that can't be right. "We did it in the '50s or '60s," or whenever they did it. And now everybody's gotten something like this. And that is precisely why I like a body on frame because if the top pad is ruined, pick it up. - Yes. - Throw it away, or put another one down. - Or needs to be refurbished or whatever. - Anybody that refurbishes cars, old antiques and whatnot, (snaps) that's how fast you can do it with body on frame. Do it with anything else, a uni body, just is a rusted out mess. That's why nobody has 'em, nobody cares about them. - And also for geographic expansion, when you drive by wire, your homologation is less. But then you can ship these. - [Sandy] Right. - [Tony] And then do the top layer. - Whatever top you want. - [Tony] Exactly. - [Sandy] Exactly. And that's the way they used to do it a long time ago. - [Tony] I was gonna say. You know-- - [Sandy] It's like going backwards again. - Well, sometimes it's about refining. You know, you gotta learn from the past as much as you have to think to the future. But if you think about it, the trucking industry kind of had this concept, right? - Yeah. - So you can configure. And that's what we wanted. You can change this propulsion system within a couple of hours. You can put a brand new one in it. I mean, very accessible logic in the system. - Well this looks like a nice tight package as well. So I'm looking at what we are trying to talk other people who've got their electric vehicles into so that this module is all contained. - Yep. - Look at how many wires are going here. Not too many. All of the heavy duty stuff is in the back. So you've shortened up the amount of cabling that you're going to... And that's the expensive stuff. You shorten that up and all of a sudden, hey, you know what, the cost goes down. So yeah, a lot of good things here. So what kind of batteries have you got here? Whose batteries? - Panasonic's. - Panasonic's? - Yeah. - 2107s? - Yep. - Yeah. - Yeah we're big. - Okay well, you know, you're just getting all the check marks here. Sorry Eric, I can't find a single thing so far to throw rocks at here. - Yeah, these are the delivery vehicles. So the same one you were in but now we've actually taken away a bunch of stuff that made it more functional for the delivery. You got nearly 130 cubic feet of storage capability in this vehicle. And by the way, notice if this was another brand, you would have to step up to grab a package. Everything is at reach to a five foot five person from all of the angles. And we have this with slide out decks. They're proprietary obviously for the people we do them for. We take a different approach. We try to really focus on the way they want to do business. This is a vehicle that has done hundreds of deliveries. - Seeing as I'm here, I worked on the engine division for a long time at Ford Motor Company and we found that there was some really cool bearing material and you could make these things slide real easy or stay put. - Yes, yes. - By changing this. - Actually this is just a mat that's put here for gripping. - Yeah. - But in reality, if you come over here, it has a slide out. - Oh, it's raised. Oh, okay. - Yeah, that's what goes. And then the same thing goes down below. You know, and keep in mind this is the wheel base of a Prius, (chuckles) you know? - Yeah. - And you got in all this, how much can you get in a Prius? And then of course, you know, you just slide it. It's got a locking system. - Figured it out. Yeah. - You know, we designed it for quite high volume with a very small footprint. You can have it with one seat, with two seats, you know? You can get more storage space. - What about the steering wheel on the opposite side for like mail delivery and things like that? - Yeah. So you can move the steering wheel effectively anywhere, right? Because it's drived by wire. - Yeah, right. - So you could put it in the center if you wanted to do it for a postal exam or you know, a military or if you wanted to platoon the vehicles. Or you can move it to the right. - Well, if you could put it in the center and you're looking at military, then I can put two more people in here. - Well and that's the cool thing about having something like this that gives you that flexibility. 'Cause you know, you can effectively make this a rail car. Now you can go sand, you can do all kinds of things. You should, it should be, this should be its own platform, which was our belief. That should be its own use case. And so then you configure, you can go dual propulsion. You know here, if you look over here, Sandy, I think you'll love this. This is the same technology now in a carbon Kevlar-wrapped bulletproof vehicle. And it's got an eight-foot bed. It's the first time you'll see a honeycomb spider web concept, which makes it incredibly durable. I mean, you know, hit on this thing a little bit. - [Sandy] Yeah. - [Tony] You can feel it. - Tap a little bit, yeah. - Swing down two pallets. Two full pallets. Aviation locking decks. It's designed for... You know, this thing is by the way, all-wheel drive dual propulsion and notice soldiers have trouble getting in and out of vehicles. You could run an alpha team in here 'cause you can put an accessory over the top. But we did everything so it's easily accessible. For example, you know these here. You can have slide out ammo cans. But look at this how my body's moving. - [Sandy] Yeah, yeah. - It's moving really easy to get in and out. - Well I have a Rivian and the Rivian has something similar to that and I think it's brilliant. RJ did a fabulous job on, you know, utilizing that tunnel. It's useless for everything else. Now you've got something that you can store crap in. I mean if you're just transporting troops, troops can sit up here, guns can go down below. You don't always have to have your weapon with you. - Even where we put the tire. Right. Also better protection for the driver. - [Sandy] Yeah. - Like every thought possible we could do. And this is the same configuration that we would, you know, take that chassis and turn it into this. - [Sandy] Yeah. - Because it's an MPP1, right. It's a multipurpose platform. And you can up fit, you can down fit. You know, this one has a rugged, you know, washout floor. You can have it with see through, not see through. But this one here has very low thermal footprint. At-night optics. - Well I will tell you, as I came from a very military family and personally I would yank these and put in a bench seat. And the reason for that is simply because it's too awkward and to get over a little bumps and if you're in a hurry. - Yeah. - You wanna move right now. - It's designed to do both. - If you said like you're saying the steering wheel could be in the center. - Yeah. - Now I can get three guys in here instead of two. - Yep, yep. So to your point on that, you know what you have here and this particular one this is more for a scout. - Yeah, yeah. - So you need one guy, he needs access to a lot of equipment 'cause they're running drones at that point. - Yeah, right, yeah. Right yeah. - Calling in strikes and things of that nature. - Yeah. - But this is an eight-foot bed heavy duty. I mean I have wheeled this, but this is a different kind of vehicle here. Just to kind of put it into context about, you know, the simplicity of the vehicle. Just smack it as hard as you want right here. Give it a smack. - These things are gonna bounce. - Go ahead. - It's gonna hit. (hammer bangs) Yep, see and nothing and I didn't spare the horses. You want it again? - [Tony] Sure, gimme a good one. - Don't stand there in case I lose it. I took the dirt off the end. There you go. Thank you. Yeah, this is kind of like, this is the kind of thing that we need in the field. - Yeah. You know, it's durable. It's gonna last a long time. - Yeah. - And you know, if you... The best part about democratizing is if there is something that happens, you can use those parts because it's a plug-and-play element of the way that we do it. So. (energetic music) - Okay. So you have something very similar to what I just saw in Vietnam. The guys-- - VinFast. - The VinFast guys have got something extremely similar to this. And I gave it a big giant A-plus because... Oh, and you've got 'em side by each or bottom to bottom. - Yeah. - That's what a Rivian has got. So you've taken ideas and gluing them together that Rivian only has that they don't have this. - [Tony] Yeah. - I love that. I like that bus system. - So by having these cold plates, we can really optimize the power density. - Yeah, right. - Because this is aluminum one-piece cold plate. - Yeah. - That was two pieces. This is a beta design. This is a gamma and production design. And we can circulate the coolant through here. - Right. - And each of the pockets pretty much extracts the heat. - Right. - From the bottom. - From the bottom, yeah. - And that's the most efficient way of taking the heat out of the cells. - Yeah. Well if you talk to the Tesla guys, they're gonna argue with you. But that's what I said as well. - That's right. I'm a fan of... 'Cause that's where the heat is in the bottom. - [Designer] Exactly, that's right. - So let's suck it out of there. - [Designer] And I've seen your report on those. - You're just sucking up, aren't you? (laughs) - No, no. I've seen the microchannel ones. - Yeah, yeah. - But yeah, so we have about 4,224 cells, 264 cells on each module with 132 on each side. - So what is the size of this pack then? How many how many kilowatts? - 80 kilo hours. - 80 kilowatt hours. - Five kilowatt hours. 16 of those inside the chest. - And what kind of range does that give you? - An able body human can pick them up, right? So they're easy to replace and upgrade if you have some kind of issues. - Well that was the BMW idea. The BMW i3 had all their modules so that you could take 'em and move them to something else for the second life if you like. - [Tony] Yeah, yeah. - Well in their products. Yeah, I mean you're gonna run that battery down quick. It didn't last long. - Yeah. - So it would've never-- - Right on that one. - What's that? - They're also using refrigerant. - They used refrigerant. They used... They had electric thermal management systems and whatnot. But this is a good idea for a second life after a crash. - [Tony] Yeah, that's exactly right. - So, you can't make that happen with anybody else. So if these things can be pulled out, now I can take 'em into my basement. - [Tony] Yep. - Some electricity. - That's correct. - You can hook 'em up and boom. - Yeah, and each of these modules have its own CSB. A self sensing board. It monitors the voltage and temperature of your cells. - So, well, you know what else is good on this too? So in combat, things happen and cars are crashed and stuff like that. - [Tony] That's correct. - With this... - That's exactly right. - If I'm in the military and I need power, the rest of the car might be-- - That's exactly right. - Destroyed completely. I take this and I put it in a box. - Well, not only that Sandy, we can ship multiple chassis stacked to one energy source. - Right, exactly. Exactly right. Yeah. - Look at exterior, we're gonna drive the other one as well. - Okay. - Well, so we don't like keys. - Neither do I. - [Tony] They're ridiculous. - My cell phone is my keys. - So, this is using either biometric information off of a ring or device or a card. So just, that's it. You're going. You're ready to go. Now, whip it around. - It's tight. - Oh, you'll have no problem. - Oh, I'd have no problem. - Now you see that little donut ring right there? - The donut ring? - Yeah, I'd like you to hit, just do a nice little donut here lock-to-lock and step on it. (car revs) - Nope. Let's stop right there. Do we still have my partner? - [Tony] Did you get that? - [Partner] Yeah. - Do you want to get it from the outside? - And you notice the steerability of it. You actually can even do less. It'll stay in the pocket. - I don't think I had enough room. - You did. You actually did. - Really? - Believe it or not, you did. Look at your cut. It's a little delusional, but. - Yeah. I don't want to delusional into this somebody else's car here. But anyways, let's... - [Tony] Stay in it. Just stay in it. Stay in it. - [Sandy] Yikes that's close. - [Tony] See? I told you you had it. - Yeah, you did. I don't know if I've got any tire left. - Oh, you got plenty. - Let's come through the smoke here. - See, look at how much room you had. You had like four feet. - Ah, well it gives you the illusion that it's not. Yeah, this has got a lot more room. - And you can zig-zag if you want. Stay in it. That's it. Just stay in it. - Oh that's still here. - And when you get used to it, you'll just let the steering wheel come loose. - Yeah. - [Cameraman] Good thing I didn't eat lunch, Sandy. (woman laughs) - [Sandy] What? - [Cameraman] It's a good thing I didn't eat lunch yet. - Actually, I did that on purpose. I wanted to make sure that-- - [Woman] I love that you're pushing him because that's how you see it, right? - But you know, do a little zigzag here. Go for some zig-zag. - Is everybody happy? - Now what you'll learn once you get used to drive by wires, you actually were over steering. Notice you actually didn't even have to do but half of that. - Well, at the end of the day, this is gonna take a little while for me to catch on. I am an old dog, so this is a new trick for me. But I think this is brilliant, actually. - You like your field of view? It's really-- - I love the field of view. The field of view is like incredible. I like steering with my thumbs and stuff like that. And this has got pretty much everything that I would be looking for. This is not what I was expecting, okay? And I'm really, really pleased. Really excited. Let me just see what this. - And this one's only set to... Right now, I think this one's probably set to about 250 horse. - Well 250 horse is just fine when you're looking at an electric car. - [Tony] And notice how close you can get to a curb. You just feel real comfortable in the vehicle. - Yeah-- - In front of you. Like when you went into that parking space. - No, I think you guys did a fabulous job. Final thoughts? Well, the first final thought (chuckles) is thank you so much for a great afternoon. This has been fabulous, Tony. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you to all the folks here at Canoo for letting me abuse their vehicle. The new muscle van instead of minivan. This is the muscle van. You know what, this product is never gonna have to suffer with the lack of masculinity that some people thought about minivans. (Tony laughs) Anyhow, this is a vastly different afternoon than I anticipated. (chuckles) I am really kind of impressed. This isn't in the market yet, but I can see this thing. Basically this is gonna be a winner, a real winner. So, and I'm glad and I am gonna send you that-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd love to. - Roman's detailed information and whatnot 'cause this is exactly what they need on the minds because... Anyhow, I'm not gonna go into more business. Thanks for watching. Thank you for a wonderful afternoon. Thank you, new muscle van, and we'll be showing this real soon and you're gonna be very impressed when this thing hits the road. Thanks a lot everybody. Bye. - Bye. (energetic music)
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Length: 42min 54sec (2574 seconds)
Published: Fri Dec 09 2022
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