"Candace Beats Ben" - Daily Wire Accused of Putting Gag Order On Candace Owens Due To Fear of Debate

I want to show you the story that comes out uh from uh if you can pull up the clip yes so reports daily wire issued gag order against Candace ens during public uh debate negotiations right okay so let me read this story because you know I'm sure you have great feedback to give to both sides on this so conservative news and commentary out that the daily wire has reportedly obtained gag order against former podcast host Candace owns a news reported allegations alleges despite company co-founder Ben Shapiro claiming that he wanted to debate her on the Israel Palestine issue Owen's three-year stint at the daily wire ended in March following months of tensions between the professional Pro provocator and her fellow Network personalities the subject of the Israel Hamas Hamas was proved to be particularly divisive issue for Owens and Shapiro Owens has taken a Firm Stance against the American involvement in Foreign Wars including the one in Gaza Shapiro and Orthodox je has criticized other Republicans for their declining support for both Israel and Ukraine stressing America's national security interest in both conflicts after multiple social media do you have a video of that as well Rob on what he says or no I do I have Glenn Greenwald reporting okay go and have that video if you if you can play Glenn's go for it immediately after Candace Owens went to Twitter and said I'd like to have a debate with Ben here about Israel the Del wire ran into an arbitration proceeding and requested that an arbitrator put a gag order on Candace Owens and Order her blocked banned from criticizing the deli wire or bench Piro in any way and none of this was disclosed by the deli wire they had led Their audience to believe that they actually wanted a debate with Candace Owens and yet at the same time in secret they were arguing to the arbitrator that the way in which Candace Owens asked for this debate the expressions of criticism she had voiced about Ben Shapiro the fact that she had liked multiple tweets that were criticizing V and the deli wire meant that Candace Owens by negotiating and asking for this debate had in fact engaged in disparagement of the DA wire in a way that violated her contract and they therefore convinced an arbitrator in secret that they were likely to win if they sued Candace Owens for breach of contract and the only remedy possible would be to gag Candace Owens talking about the Del wire per anyway critically I mean it's a chicken ship so so what do you what do what do you think about okay I like it I I'll tell you what I like the move this is a very smart move by the daily wire you got to remember it's not Ben Shapiro anymore he made his decision organizations protect themselves and when they have a contract with you they will immediately do this now Glenn the truth is enough Glenn doesn't have to say they went in secret arbitration is what it is you know what I mean it's in your contract so it's not like they're sneaking around but so you know he doesn't need that drama to it but the reality is you're saying one thing to me but now you got your boys exercising a right on my contract and you have to look at the reason why okay the daily wire doesn't believe that Shapiro wins the debate with Candace Owens you you think they believe that 100 otherwise there's no reason to do it wow if this is working for you you let it go right because the theory is Vinnie and Patrick get sideways and you believe that you got sideways with him for good reason you want people to know yeah good let Vinnie talk about why we got sideways good he's there everyone's going to understand why we did what we did that's what Ben Shapiro has been saying everybody's going to understand that Candace Owens has positions that are not just incorrect but morally wrong in a way that Ben Shapiro says matters he's not just another corporate guy it's not just another company now but in fact it is just another company and the company decided we lose if he goes toe-to-toe with Candace Owens so shut her up and they have the right to do it because of the contract you you you think there was a meeting where they sat down and are you saying like a Ben promp thing saying I don't want to do this debate do you think it's a Jeremy thing saying we we shouldn't do this debate is it what that type of a conversation or is it like something everybody's thinking nobody wants to say to hurt someone's ego so they're like look we got to do this and we got to do protect the company you think it's second second I think it's this guy I think it's the super smart guy who's sitting on the outside is who you're talking about he's he's the face and the scent I mean he's he's distractingly good smelling like I can't make a point talk about Tom technical not Vinnie is not but he's technically Tom is sitting in listening be like oh yeah this is this is this is great drama uh I represent the organization which is now a huge organization with a lot of investors putting money on us we lose on this shut her down and that's what they're doing and now Candace has to make a decision she has to now listen to her representative saying well what's my exposure because in terms of the argument I feel like well no let's go let's take the gloves off let's let's see who's who and she's going to have someone like me you know a lawyer say to her no we lose we we have in our contract an arbitration Clause uh they've gone in there we lost the argument on whether or not we can talk about the proceedings so they're going to sanction you and it's going to hurt you lose on substance or on policy meaning I've never seen Ben Shapiro lose a debate this guy knows what he's talking about oh I've seen him L especially really oh yeah he says a lot of things that are just overstating propositions especially you don't think Candace does that oh 100% look that's the job if you want to be a provocator if you want to be an outrage machine you're going to stretch no question about she's amazing by the way I think that she is a very talented she's going to whoop you next time get your ass homie she can bring it I have no problem with her bringing it especially when it's in good faith look the problem for Ben Shapiro is this MH he's been very quiet okay that's the first tell this is not a quiet Guy this is very personal to him uh his faith is the center of uh his person and that's fine uh he is defending controversial propositions okay they are not controversal to him I get it but what he has done is allowed something that's supposed to be personal to become about business and I think that that's going to be a bad look for him so so you know what this you know what this analogy but I do like the move I like the move this is kind of like I understand it's a power move but you threw it out there boom boom boom we got her perfect hey lawyers look what she just said boom go through you know it's kind of like hey gag another ,000 look what he just said on that interview same exact thing Trump is going through is kind of they're doing but here's the part in school there's a fight okay and one guy says after school yeah I'll see after school 3:00 at 3:00 after school that's right behind the football stadium right okay great so you go 3:00 after school you meet the one shows up okay and the other one shows up with the principal that's exactly what that is one gets suspended okay for a week from school but the one that got suspended got Street Credit yeah that's how it works that's EXA I'm just telling you and that's exactly it but I mean if this is true if it's true allegedly allegedly but if you think about it look at what this situation to me exposed the hell out of not only Ben but daily wire as well because think think about the hypocrisy too all this stuff like hey you want to debate debate get the lawyers involved then a couple days I think it was yesterday uh Shapiro makes a video supporting elon's reinstatement of Nick Fuentes on X if you want to talk about anti-semitic and anti- how are you going to flip-flop and I'll say you know what I'm happy that elon's letting him get on there of all really who said that Ben Shapiro made a video going hey I to be fair he to be fair he also said the following which you have to understand what he said he said in an interview with Dave Rubin he says we're not a platform we're a publisher yeah okay so Nick Fuentes being reinstated on Twitter that's a platform he can say that and he's kind of dancing I understand what you're saying but is also saying we're a publisher we we don't you know we don't want Candace to say what she's saying here we can fire him regardless of that position you lose both ways 100% regardless what you say you're losing with both arguments the thing with Ben and Candace I would argue there's there's policy and there's personality I would say that Ben is a technical policy guy Candace amazing marketer amazing personality but the biggest question is the following what is the hill you're willing to die on we've seen since Co people take stances on what they're willing to die in the single Focus that has a primary importance to them Ben has been exposed and I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing the hill he's willing to die on is Israel is Israel 1,00% so with Candice what is her Hill my question is she has a bunch of Hill is it is it anti- BLM true is it America First True at one point the literal Hill she was going to die on was exposing Emanuel macron's wife as a man she said the following that she'd willing to bet her entire career on it so I'm just wondering if this debate happens how that would all here's my but see I I I think bed was exposed because the Israel thing that was his head exploding no for for months we had to hear this freaking guy and his voice got more annoying Candice is Michael Jackson Bad she she has she has she focuses here bro hanging out with her she this girl is a freaking a sponge she wants to like like a little kid she wants a no no no and then by the way one week she's doing this one week it's this one day she doesn't have a hill Adam she has multiple Hills she can attack all of them together it's like they're siblings they're twins I love her she's hilarious what are your thoughts on because I I have one question I want to ask and I specifically want to get your thoughts and your thoughts Tom on it go for well strategically I agree with Chris this is good for daily wire strategically however what happens in the Public Square daily wire there's two fights here daily wire in the legal ring just won a 15 round decision where the entire crowd looks at it and said man that sucks that's not right and the brand and the pr daily wire suffered a second round knockout Big W that's what happened because everybody's looking at Daily wire looking at going man you guys just look bad you were trying people that don't understand the chessboard of legal and contracts and everything are looking at this saying oh you didn't want to debate and you did that man you went to some judge to do that that is what a lot of people see that's a knockout for the brand that's not where I want to be Ben looks bad Jeremy looks bad Dy wire looks bad I got a question and all she has to do is stand there and say I can't talk about it and she looks she looks fine and but legally it's a 15 round decision we all just look at it and say yeah question for you question for you so H can a media company historically you guys has lived in America longer than I have I've only been here since 1990 so I don't have a lot of history prior to that of what happened here except from the books I've read can a has a media company ever had a fatal moment a fatal a career-ending moment I would argue that CNN has which has dropped below MSNBC in the ratings has lost their identity we saw the the documentary of the book call me Ted I would argue that where is CNN now I just quite frankly we all know where I stand moderate middle unifier type of guy I I have a mixed media diet I watch CNN for two people Cuomo and who I think is the most brilliant guy in TV fared Zakaria I literally don't watch CNN after Cuomo left and I'm freed only is on on Sundays where the hell is CNN these days so you think I don't think I don't think CNN is fatal though because I think I think you know if we had the kind of resources and we were able to make an off offer to buy a CNN and bring it in and I know somebody else is running it from the top I think there's something that cuz I I think if you can go back to what tet turn wanted to build I think there's a chance and then it's no longer CNN it's a rebranding I'm asking fatal I'm asking fatal like Vice fatal I I don't remember saying now Vice went out of business for a lot of reasons but I mean if you're talking about like fatal on a controversy no personalities and producers have endured fatal moments Dan freaking rather got absolutely kicked to the curb over the the George W bush story and it was him his researcher and producer who all got together and decided to stretch the facts and spin them to make W look bad and the fires of Hell came back at them and then the network talk about Dan Rather he he was the successor he was the the next big anchor that came after the years of kronite well I mean Dan was a big deal is a big deal history uh thus far has been kind to him he's taking a comeback oh yeah I mean he's huge he's huge on I know but I'm saying that as to to he's a legend in game to Pat's point of course he's a legend but to to Pat's point about the brand uh his brand is strong um why well the the test of time and perspective uh CBS threw him under the bus that happens when it's about you or me in a corporate setting that's what's happening at the daily wire also is that the corporation has to win and the way that they win is by shutting Candace down and they have the right to make that happen whether or not you think it's right so he goes down now in terms of whether or not you've ever seen a kill shot to an entire brand uh probably not because they get rid of somebody they blame somebody Brian Williams was that NBC NBC he gets busted right for what I wasn't that impressed with by the way he just forgot that he was telling a story that wasn't really true and he had told it so many times that like he forgot that he was telling a story that he had kind of made up um in the helicopter and life fire and and they up I saw bodies floating by yeah and they wind up bringing him back onto MSNBC rehabilitate him because his buddy wound up being in control so what's the point that individuals get taken down Brands usually exist to Pat's Point CNN is a huge and valuable brand uh are they internationally well more than domestically domestically because let tell right owner needs to own it cuz let me tell you I'm saying currently they're a mess well you Adam I asked fatal okay right fatal and as long as people look even me I don't think it's warranted that people have as many strong opinions about me as they do but as long as they do MH there is value to that if people watch you every week and every time your show is on because they love you great if they watch you because they can't wait to see what things are going to make you make them crazy good there's no difference to the value of the brand uh CNN just like MSNBC uh just like Fox people are figuring out the sweet spot in the social dialogue and the cultural chaos to pick their spot my problem with that is you shouldn't be looking for a lane the mistake is looking for a lane because you wind up inevitably favoring a side MH and then it becomes who do you want to impress to Tom's Point who does the daily wire want to impress conservatives if it's their advertising base they made the right move advertisers don't like this kind of controversy now the problem is the whole reason that Shapiro makes money the whole reason Candace makes money is controversy you got to take swings at things that are absurd because look at the comments love hate it's all feeling nobody says on his laptop it says facts don't care about your feelings pleas please take the sticker off all you care about is feel all you care about is making people provoking them into a very strong thing and if that's what you're about logic is boring yeah I I I I hope uh um they I think sometime when something like this happens um they'll never debate by the way it'll never happen you you either one you stick to your guns and you have to change your approach who you get your money from and then you have to go and see who you need to now go get to replace a Candice in a market I don't know okay two then this could lead into even more internal battles with people talking internally who liked a Candace to say hey what happened here maybe that can happen to me as well maybe not I'm just saying that could be another possibility but I think Adam I see your hand I'll come to you I see your so the other possibility is is the fact that you know if if they if they choose to really um you know go to what they've done well over the years they they didn't get to where they are right now by pure luck no you don't build daily Wire by pure luck I remember first time I was in LA and I went to a studio in Sherman Oaks and him and I sat down we did something together and I seen them go from there to where they are now and the the kind of eyeballs and subscriptions and things that they've done the you know what is a woman all these different documentaries that they've done they've built something significant for themselves that they can grow every every operator makes mistakes every business owner makes mistakes you just can't make the Fatal ones that's the only thing you can't make the Fatal ones and insurance compliance could be fatal Finance compliance Enron Andy fast out 100,000 oh they'll never go out of business boom you can't make the Fatal mistakes that's the only thing I'm saying you can in life make a lot of mistakes you cannot make the Fatal ones the Fatal ones sometimes can you know uh completely especially in the media space there's you know how they say well it's good controversy there's no such thing as bad controversy as long as they're talking about us our brand is getting bigger maybe it's true this could be a case study in the next three years five years we look back and say hey kind of worked out in their favor or you can look back and say they Ro you got your answer is that their big brains made a decision that the daily wire will not die on the hill of defending the IDF that's not that's not going to be what we're known for no matter how strong Shapiro is in his faith and the proje of that onto Israel right CU they're different things um they're related obviously but they're different um well you're saying the owner said they're not going to die on the hill you are not going to daily wire is not going to be known as the IDF defense machine you don't think so that's that's why they shut Candace up if they wanted to be the IDF defense machine we're all in with Israel we're taking on the cause of they' be they'd be debating it right here they would have had you moderated you would have been a perfect choice for them and he would have been up there and they would have gone all in on saying saying okay you tell me again why Israel is conducting a genocide and I'm going to slice it like cheese as a poor argument that is just meant to anger people against the Jews that's what they'd be doing they're doing the opposite very interesting very interesting Adam go ahead well Ben isn't the only personality in the daily wire cuz Matt Walsh has a very different position more of an isolation position um Matt noes has a different position they have different positions so Ben it does not equal daily wire but I'm going to push back on the CNN thing maybe it's not fatal or lethal but it's in my opinion incurable why would I say such a thing um it's costly uh it's crippling how do you go from being the number one cable news Outlet to number three in a matter of a decade how the hell do you do that Fox News is now number one by far you have Greg Gutfeld Greg no my apologies the least funniest late night guy out there Numero Uno Kimmel Fallon col Bear all funny famous people second third fourth place I would say funny but funnier than uh Gutfeld guy I mean apparently not so exactly because they've been they've been so segmented so my question to our friend Chris is how the hell do you save CNN who's their lead anchor what do they stand for you said the following I want to go to the next story we're 40 minutes 45 minutes but show me an outlet show me your agenda your agenda yeah we're at 45 minutes I want to go to the next one we got like 19 stories to go through but here's what I want to do what I will say to you Adam on the on the incurable so here's a question for you do you think if musk buys CNN it can be saved um thatc 20% okay fair do you think if uh I don't know because their crowd is not an Elon Musk fan their crowd has skewed so far left the moderates and the people to the right literally hate CNN this is the one of the most reasonable moderate men I've ever met and he's getting skewered by the right I just think like at sports teams that go through a terrible mistake that they make with a player or political whatever you restructure GM coaches like look Clippers cannot be saved they were saved Clippers were saved because of ownership change and a new guy came in and once the last time we thought about Donald Sterling forc him to sell it for 2.2 billion I believe in capitalism and I believe daily wire can make but I do think there needs to be some changes in management that's all I'm saying I think they can do something but those are tough decisions to make the board is going to have a hard time having those types of conversations some some moves you make are fatal if you don't quickly 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Length: 26min 50sec (1610 seconds)

Published: Tue May 07 2024