Building an Empire w/Critical Role's Matthew Mercer & Marisha Ray

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hello guys this is Marissa ray and Matthew Mercer and you are watching the lip roll' podcast with Valerie Morehouse [Music] [Applause] we've got two exciting guests Matthew Mercer and Marissa Marissa but Marissa ray you got oh you are a husband-and-wife team so I don't know a whole lot about y'all but my team does and so we're gonna kind of ask you a bunch of questions on the fly think Spencer I'm gonna kick this over to you to do yeah so why don't you both kind of just introduce yourselves I know the internet knows who you are our audience Valerie's could kind of have some contacts in case they don't yeah we're both voice actors in the video game video game and animation industry and beyond that we're both nerds who love gaming and both video games as well as tabletop RPGs like Dungeons & Dragons and Matt over here is an incredibly prolific dungeon master I enjoy dungeon mastering and so I've been playing since I was in high school it's been a big part of my you know in involvement in theater and and performing arts in general it's kind of what inspired it originally and about six years ago gathered a group of mutual friends of ours who were also voice actors that we knew in the industry through work started playing D&D together at home a few years into it we were invited to start streaming it on the internet and we were like I guess we'll see if folks like for at night but with Dungeons and Dragons no no video game at all it's literally us at a table with paper a pen dice and it's basically communal improv yeah we all create characters or decide from the dungeon master the players create characters that have they figure out their personalities and their traits and abilities on paper and then they play through a story that I kind of you know weave and create in advance and then they muck it up terribly and we just all kind of see where the narrative takes us reduce yeah we do stream on Twitch which is probably the most fortnight relative thing about us for tonight because my kids are into me mental yeah why is this so popular and they're playing their friends because it's interactive yeah yes absolutely okay well you just recently play in a fortnight um not really not it's like really intricate yes wait like I enjoy first-person shooters and other video games just haven't gotten into fortnight really but the epic team hit me up and they're like do you want to play in a tournament for charity there's like a three million prize pool for charity we're all sure I'll wait for an hour so it's just we're all backstage at the fore I'm never thinking it would it be for Walden everything would ever happened let alone before a fortnight but here we are yeah I'll embarrass myself for ten thousand dollars to a charity of my choice there's kind of an overview of kind of what we what we do with critical role we're just weird bunch of nerdy ass voice actors that sit around a table playing Dungeons & Dragons yeah in the shows go generally for about three to four hours or hours sometimes longer long-form content would you know the reason why we were like no one's gonna watch this so you sit there for four hours straight yeah we have a break but I was gonna ask if you get a break and even that's kind of truncated for when we used to play at home you know it's not uncommon for these games to run six seven eight or more hours when you get your friends together partially because it's so hard to schedule adults to play a game that we need to get together you're like we're blocking out the whole day we're gonna mover to make this worth our time right yes about three to four hours and whenever you we play I would be the person coming in okay you need to take a break and go get some exercise and then you come back you haven't moved in four hours start a whole wing for it like the the mother the adults that watch over the adults you know all right I'm clocking this now I could do with my kids I'm an adult on paper in that alone I think but you both have magical speaking voices which is great so I think that for a living and then you can really hear why it's a good combination why it's a good sure well then just being voice actors in general our side of the industry already leans towards having to be very imaginative we're just we have to convey a lot with our voices and we record in tiny little booths by ourselves with nothing but a mic and set of hands so already I think that side of it we have to kind of have immersive imagination in order to visualize we're on a battlefield running and screaming couvade and get down so there was already that element that I think easily lent to us to be able to be immersive in role-playing well it's not different than what I do with with my singers and my actors right if I'm getting them ready for a film I love working with the actors by the way and and voiceover actors because you guys actually do immerse yourselves and you do trying to do study no offense to my singers cuz I love you all but they're lazy they're lazy they're just given this a gift of a tune or a tone or carrying a tune and they just they don't they don't all study the way that you the way the way that they should rather and it's interesting Mercia that you said immersing yourself into this character because you have to do that when you go into a booth you know you record an album your tip you're typically in this like 10 by 10 with cans on and in like the womb you know you're in a woman which we prefer by the way yeah I get nervous when we're working on a project and where these massive sound studios and they're this huge room the artist doesn't feel comfortable sure so we just I just got off the film for with an actress um it's gonna be amazing but I can't talk about it and we sort of had to recreate this womb for her in this huge soundstage because she just wasn't comfortable yes it is a very isolating for that reason it's just like you and a microphone in all this open empty space in existence was a glass window where all the producers don't staring at you with the talk button yeah yeah I so I actually had the producer say you know she was so nervous though she preferred to be behind the glass but he says typically I have my artist come out and sing in the actual room with the board with the can so we create only four of us in the room like a nice little safe space so everybody's a little bit different but we like to have them in the room with us so it's easier to communicate what we need the emotion to be or what we're missing in the song and so you know everybody's a little bit different but she just preferred to be in the womb both of you those I mean I imagine what you do requires you to have kind of a producer mentality so it's like you're kind of on both sides of it is that true or do you feel like you're mainly talent mainly writing and you kind of leave the producer element to Marisha or is it kind of take both of you guys to think like that I mean a little bit of both we both come from production backgrounds you know both did web series and and created and wrote and developed a lot of our own projects over the past you know decade plus when this began one of our so it's funny we were asked to stream it one of the main things that we fought for was to not change the way we play because at the base of this this is the game that us and our friends enjoyed this is our private time that we're putting on public display which is already kind of a you know a fiddly breach in privacy but we're like if people can engage with it and find you know a positive outlet through it and let that let that be a good excuse to open up a little bit we gave ourselves an ultimatum that if after six to eight weeks if it wasn't going well or we weren't enjoying it and we would just abandon it let it go and then keep private yeah keep playing privately but as far as the production standpoint goes for the far main show critical role we try and minimize as much production as possible we literally set up cameras properly so we have coverage and then we just play and try and forget they're there and that's been really great for us because we still get to enjoy the game as you know a little sacred space every week that our friends get together and just play for a few hours and I think to a degree when you begin to over produce something that's meant to be that intimate and you know that type of an experience it not only feels stilted and forced from your standpoint at the table but it's also harder for an audience to engage with it because it feels like it's being served as opposed to their being let in on it there's a lot of parallels with what you're saying to music you know a lot of parallels because it's the same thing if it's organic and not organic it's stale you know and and so we rather have someone have a emotional response in a recording session and tune it slightly different live different life currency but lots of the same parallels I'm actually interested when we talked about the whole Dungeons & Dragons thing because Dungeons & Dragons has been around forever I mean it's been around since I was a kid right so it's it's um I'm amazed at does it keep morphing does the game keep changing and morphing or is it sort of the same as it as it was 2530 years ago yes and no the rules have changed and have been simplified but the core of what the game is is still there and still more or less unchanged it's still an immersive imaginary your imaginative RPG game so that that component I think is still held pretty sacred swords and sorcery and elves and toys Game of Thrones on on the board I don't know that yet feels there imagine if in-game if you're watching Game of Thrones but the writers room each person had a character that they controlled and they made the decisions in the moment based on what they thought that character would do right that's essentially what Dungeons & Dragons is all of you choosing a character of a story you're not sure where the story is gonna go and then based on how you play it out and react to you know villains and react to each other that drives the story and you all kind of follow the mystery of where it's gonna lead you so you guys must do sorry I'm taking over I'm just running on now and so I'm like wait a minute so you guys must do a lot of the like comic-con right you'd be in that world are you in that role we grew up going in tending to these guys I would imagine and I only say that because I dated a man actor for a long long time before I was married who was on one of those like Star Trek II shows sure and he used to go to these things and we would go to Germany come home this is back in like the 90s and even with like wads of cash yeah I can't do that anymore but just like wads of cash in his trench coat I'm like this is what we would do he would tie we'd go to Australia and people would pay $25 for a signed photo I mean that was a lot back in 1998-99 right they would pay for these photos and he would just be like this is crazy and we'd see all like Babylon 5 and the Star Trek Voyager and we'd see all these guys sitting at the table I sat with him at those tables for like two years and their worm like I can't take I like this is cool this is nuts all the energy coming at you it's a lot yeah we do signings it's exhausting right we've just started in the past a couple years or so really kind of appearing at events but we both grew up going on the opposite side and being the person in the panel room sitting in chairs watching panels and waiting in line to meet our favorite people today on the opposite end of it is a very very unique experience by credibly draining it's draining but it's the most positive draining like being able to interact with members of our community we're very invested in our community you know we wouldn't have any capability to do what we're doing today if we didn't have the community that built around us and so there's so much of a give-and-take as far as wanting to support and uplift and and be there for the people that have been there for us as well and these committees are an opportunity for us to you know try and make each interaction special and try and meet as many people as we can we can and it is exhausting but it's it's one of the more fulfilling experience it is because it's last thing I'm gonna let you ask some things to me you know this is so interesting so one of the things though that I found from those experiences is that at the end of the day what I was very drained by all of the stories and one of the things that I remember being an empath that really touched me was this is they have some of these people have nowhere else to go like they look forward to this all year long this is their big event and they're coming because yes they're fans but they feel a sense of community and people would come up to the table with like one arm or they're in a wheelchair or they're sick and this is their escape you know and I remember at the end of the day I mean I don't want to get emotional about it now but you know almost like going back to my hotel room with with my boyfriend Robin at the time and just like crying I was so like drained with all these stories and these people that this this is like their safe haven so I get it I do I completely get it from that perspective yeah it's when you like you were saying for some of these people who are in less than ideal situation and we stream live for four plus hours every week and that's just our main show not considering the other countries produces increase yeah so with so many of these people we are the most stable thing in their lives and when you're you're on the other side of that so many people when they come up and talk to us they're like we feel like we know you like you're our best friend mhm and it's because there's a massive amount of time that they really are spending with us when you must have your own stories too for them right - can you be able to communicate like you have everybody has a struggle you must have her you have your own stories and your own struggles that that whether you choose to share I would imagine you'd have to though a little bit right something you have to I think there's a level of responsibility that comes with being given a social platform or at least there should be to where we need you know can dispel the stigma behind discussing mental health you know in discussing problems and issues that everyone goes through you know there's so much security especially entertainment entertainment tends to drive this idea that everyone has to create a facade of a perfect independent individual and that if you look at these stars these people we look up to in the entertainment industry they cannot show weakness they cannot show o people they're all a mess and I work with them every day so unexpectedly this platform in this community has allowed us a space to talk openly and comfortably about everything that we struggle with and they're one of this shows that that you produce called between the sheets it's an interview show we bring in artists and different creatives to discuss their their lives their creative process their journey and we've all done episodes as well we've all got very candid about our specific issues because I mean that that's a big part of it is showing that everybody has things that they struggle with on a daily basis percent and you know you're not alone yeah those of you who are out there that are having these problems we're in a similar space no matter who you know what our social media dynamic is it doesn't matter we're all we're all people and real struggling so beyond that beyond just us personally as people we each have now we're on campaign to have played these characters mm-hmm that are deep and layered and each have their own journeys and stories right so you have almost this two-pronged approach of yes us as people but then the very real characters that we play that also go through trauma and have their own issues and are overcoming things and I always think of work we're kind of like the Chinese zodiac in terms of a cast like each one kind of has these pillars that they represent different things that that's actually that the audience kind of will find someone to connect to within the cast I didn't think about that that's pretty interesting that's very interesting how did you two meet did you meet doing this not doing this specifically but we met through mutual friends and kind of the web series circuits yeah like 3009 nerdy web stuff yeah technically it is how we met so we got both pulled on to a project that we were gonna write for and the project ended up not going anywhere both right as well yeah yeah well especially I I moved out here in 2008 and I feel like you were also getting into production and and writing and you know voiceover in that time there's only so much time you can spend in Los Angeles as an actor you know in the cattle calls and the very very oh it's it's like scenarios where you're like you know what I'm just gonna start making things I want to do you know and that's smart you have to trailblaze I mean we're all about that everybody you know it's trailblazing your own path that's what I landed where I land in in my job my career today but you you have to have an idea and you have to want to go for it a hundred percent you know I used to go I was an actor and I was doing my own music and whatever and I had a light bulb moment like that and I was at a last audition and four scenes and I killed it because I didn't want it sure I didn't want it anymore and I came to that conclusion I must be I was 30 yeah yeah time ago but I did come to that conclusion in the room I'm like ah this isn't special there's no control there's no there's nothing fun about this and I just couldn't see myself doing it one more day and I just went in and said okay I'm here I'm gonna fulfill my commitment I'm gonna go in and do the read and I it was the best audition I ever had cuz I knew I was gonna walk away and I did I got in my car and I just that was it I was done you know and I said this is what I want I want to be helpful and I want to I want to do things the way I want to do them so I completely get that it seems like you guys have kind of gone through different phases of your careers to kind of land at this like point where you're doing I'd imagine exactly what you love but then now there's kind of a new responsibility of like oK we've created this this Empire and how do we want to steer it now so how do you guys make those choices as far as like it's in your control now and I'd imagine you know how it feels the blessing and also curse of being in charge of your own Empire is that if you mess up you have no one to blame it on but you also have the freedom you know to do whatever you want and yeah and no one knows your audience and our company and what we do better than us mm-hmm you know so just when we were still under another banner in the things that we were trying to get through and you always have to go up that ladder to get the approval and then there's always gonna be someone above you that goes I don't get it no that's the day it's dead in the water most of the entertainment industry and every experience we have with projects and ideas we wanted to do is always somebody you had to go to for approval somebody who had to go to to you know request the the the necessary elements to make it happen and then you're also now be Hooven to many other ideas that may not see the project the same way you do and so to accidentally stumble into creating critical role and then having it expand the way it has and then the community around it and being having having this opportunity through their good faith what we do to create new projects outside of that as well and to now be in a place where if we have an idea we can just do it is really freeing as much as it is nerve-wracking there's a lot of responsibility on that end I mean I worked in the music industry you know out of college and had a real job at a label if you could call it a real job but it was a nine-to-five I mean it was very stressful and I had to answer to a lot of people and I was just tired of it I was tired of all of it and I said you know I don't want to do this anymore I want to take control and this is I want to do things my way I know that this is going to be hard but I did I've been doing it for 23 years now and I would never trade it ever yeah so it takes a certain special person to realize and have that that inner energy and that self love to go I can do this and this is what I want you know and and the the rewards are huge when you when you work your career that way because yes you have no one to blame but yourself but I'd much rather be that person then have to report to someone and not have have my own freedom for sure but I walked out of my last job at 20 45 years old and said I'll never look back I will never work for anyone but myself again oh yes here we are in a you know it's it's an unexpectedly perfect scenario and how this all came together because we did intend to start a company we didn't intend to to produce more content beyond our little D&D show but as we didn't expect to grow at the rate we did and so everything's been reactionary it's been trying to keep up with the momentum of you know as you said how do we steer this thing it's felt like we're steering something that's going whether or not we're ready and we're just trying desperately to hold on to it as part of that we've all kind of had to find positions within this company and it's been kind of a weird scenario of everyone finding a perfect fit and how how we can handle different facets of the responsibility and what things were interested in passionate about within that structure and so Muhsin our friends that started just you playing his elves and half-elves and you know warriors and wizards now all of a sudden our helming elements of this company and all finding out not only do we work well together but we all enjoy these different elements and can kind of support each other that way so it's it's it's been this weird kind of careful stepping you know all right are we all good we're all good checking in we're good all right next step okay we're all still good you know I'm always checking them with each other and being careful what we've built so much of this the idea of success in an industry is once you have a modicum of it to embrace it exploit it and see how far you can go and outside companies that want a piece of that also want to fit you know facilitate that that track and we don't need to because we do have the control over what we're doing we've been very careful and very meticulous with in any projects we pursue with any growth we do and we're not interested in selling off something that we've created so special between us I attribute so much of the way that we work together work so well together to Dungeons & Dragons mm-hmm because we played as a cooperative adventuring party for two years before we even turned a camera on or started taking this into a more business situation and of course so many people tell you all you hear all the time is don't get into business with your friends yeah it's a terrible idea we are so lucky there's eight of us in the fact that it's been an incredible experience and we work so well together and I think any business any team should play Dungeons & Dragons even just once because the teamwork in the camaraderie camaraderie I was just gonna say and the tribe filled in the trust the trust yeah anything that I've learned through my life and my career thus far is that you can't really listen to anybody because you have to just go with what's right for you right you know it's like people who have kids oh we just wait no no it's just they've got to have their experience yeah everybody's different because people always want to protect project their [ __ ] on to you right you know what I mean or are their experiences or what people have told them and I find you can only carve out your own path yeah and you were talking about it being this rut going on you know it freight train just running off the try not to let it run off the course because it's doing so well that's because you're you love what you do and you're passionate it's an artist way to where if they're attached to having some kind of an outcome in their career they're usually dead before they started they have to just enjoy the process and love it and the good stuff comes from there it's working from the inside out not the outside in yeah that's awesome so how do you guys incorporate kind of your team in like today's current iteration like what are some of the examples that you guys would break down like okay this is how we kind of divvy up the responsibilities this is what a day-in-the-life looks like a tower you know and how many how many are there of you of the main core we have eight people that started this and helm the main fest it's the company and we've had to hire employees to help out with production and post work and you know running projects and merchandise and everything 16 wow that's great employees that sounds about right yeah including the oh and Cleo well including the contractors you know but yeah it's uh it's grown it's it's easy he's like nourishes our creative director so she helps the twitch channel and all the content that includes developing new shows seeing the production schedule the hiring of talent developing and writing of scripts and promos like she handles pretty much everything that's not the main critical role show and even then she helps hel him a lot of the the post work and schedules there so she's she's kind of our creative development mom there I'm the chief creative officer I'm the one who not just runs our main show and there's the dungeon master but I I kind of the father of the the lore of the world that we play in eggs and reah oversee to into man all the story elements that we have a comic book with dark horse that's been going on for a while and make sure to do all the approvals to everything consistent in the world and to help beat out and outline all the main stories for that that the writers thing gets run with so I hum all the all the creative things that are specific to critical role Travis he's our CEO he annulled and stuff and thank God because I'm completely deaf to business I don't know how it functions I don't have a brain for it and he unknowingly found himself really enjoying being like so good at ok he's this like Bulldog in the room when none of us can be yeah it's all him just like the to put into context didi he's her he's the palette and holding the shield at the front line that's holding back all the legal dog I know the the money-grubbing business interests who's you know just fighting them off to keep us protected yeah you gotta have that guy yeah that guy's crucial yeah yes yeah Laura who's his wife she's in charge of all of our merch Phillips creates it yeah she just has a great eye for design then we have like Liam who's very much in charge of like PR and community engagement and all of her artists and Tallis in who does like weird ancillary creative projects and make sure that our art books look good and Sam who's kind of heading off our animated series that we're about to get into so each person in the entire cast and then Ashley who is we can't because she's humming a cool a cool element that we'll be talking about soon so yeah each person ended up just falling into these pillars and these spearheads and it kind of happened naturally and we all work perfectly together it's yeah it's turned into this amazing little little system so you have to be able to assemble that team yeah you know the team is so important yeah I'm just gonna ask how do you guys cuz I mean I'm a songwriter I'm a producer I feel like all of us have work that comes home with us how do you like when you go to bed do you feel like okay this is an end of a day tomorrow and wake up with a new day or do you feel like it constantly carries over it's constant and it's funny I didn't think about it until recently but I look back we this past and we actually had like one and a half days where we just relaxed yeah like March yes and smartly had a weekend and it's not uncommon for us to pull 12 14 16 hour days because things have to get done right things have to get finished and approved and we're a tenacious Bunch yeah we can't you know we want to keep doing things and we can't say no and Dark Horse's like you want to do a comic and we're like heck yeah we do with what time you have to do this none but will do is say yes and figure it out later few things teach you to be tenacious as well as being a starving actor in Los Angeles protracted period of time like you begin to appreciate the work that comes and the opportunities but you do but wise we're learning now as justify our mental health you also have to be a little particular with the things we take on so it's a balance we're still finding yeah you'll never find it we'll never find that I'm sure to let you know exactly we love what we do enough to the point where you know we don't we don't burn ourselves out too much but we do tend to bring ourselves you know close to the line occasionally yeah what would you say for so if you do have a day off how do you distinguish what you love which is what you do at work versus what counts as a day off for you because I'd imagine you're gonna want to do a lot of the same stuff what you do for work how do you yeah by that up that's an excellent point yeah because we don't really play good questions yeah yeah sure yeah it's hard when you I'll be on a beach somewhere talking to no one yes none of that it's kind of that like well we'll just stand our pajamas all day yeah and like turn off the phones yeah play video games together we can do there's a whole like docu-series in this yeah what we're big fans of like the the the drivable Airbnb just outside of LA for a weekend in Big Bear or something and yeah bring some board games or you know bring our PlayStation with us and just this connects going to hike come back and then play some divinity to or something and that that's our kind of disconnect amazing that's super cool you guys so is voice actors how much of that let me know and you do it every day with the Dungeons & Dragons but so you take lots of other projects though just as voice actors right so like that from yours company you're juggling I'm gonna be on set you know I've got to do ADR or I have you know whatever we just schedule it and someone else takes fills the gap if they can yeah you know it's hard I will say it's not easy yeah but vo is still such a passion for all of us it's how we all met something that we all you know if are passionate about we're just having more particular with the projects be accepted right you know back in the day very much to the idea of say yes to everything because you never know when the next paychecks in in common and you have to just work your ass off just for that time that there's a lull in work you have a little bit saved up that mindset became problematic as this company began to grow because we found ourselves double booking riotously and having to you know to make enough time to do our responsibilities for the company was difficult so now we're just more particular with the projects we select and just try try to understand our scheduling what's exciting and what pays I don't know that would be my criteria what's the biggest paycheck and what's the most exciting yeah the smaller job is like you don't they start and fall off and and even then like you it's even more just what's more exciting now yeah we're not we're not looking to make a you know crap ton of money we're looking to live comfortably in critical role thankfully it's helping us you know not have to rely so much on vo to where we can be like you know the thing that doesn't pay very well I want to be a part of this project and we can go ahead and stay you to do voices or do you just do I mean obviously you have to do voices but do you do I'm a lot of friends that do voice over from college and they have these you know voiceover reels where they have like 10,000 different types of voices and cartoon so you do you do that as well we do and how did you train yourself to do that spending a lot of time alone driving in LA traffic [ __ ] I don't know no no it's it's like we grew up loving cartoons and video games since that was very much our ears are already tuned into that and I was thankfully I had a had a kooky father who were also raising up money Python and a lot of unique comedic places and like one of those cartoons and you know Mel Blanc was a big inspiration for me as a kid as you know as we grew up we just were bored we just be weird when we're alone and and practice this and I'm the person in the driveways hadn't you know downtown you look over and see them talking to themselves like you know come to me yeah kind of kooky and how does that like kind of play into just wrapping up cuz we have one more segment we want to get to you but for your animated series are you guys is it weird casting people now for voices or is it natural because it's all your friends and you know like both I mean they they thankfully get to play their characters since they established the voices total minion filled them as the dungeon master I played every other character in the world so they played one character each in the campaign sometimes two if the character died or yeah I played I think the first campaign was six hundred characters Wow not all them are gonna be in the animated series mind you but a lot of them will be yeah that cannot possibly play them because yeah you know it's breaks immersion when every character is me for an animated series so we're gonna be getting into the interesting process of bringing in friends of ours in the industry that are very talented and having them take over these characters that I created as well as bringing in you know new talent people that can just really step into those roles it's yeah the whole Kickstarter process for this animated series has been a unique yeah can you guys my cycling talk and we'll go we'll go into that with our other segments and more but maybe just quickly kind of so Valerie can hear this it's 88,000 backers currently or more than that now maybe an 888 thousand backers when we closed which is nice lazy and we we finished at eleven point three million Wow like the we and we were afraid of even doing a Kickstarter we're like animations really expensive I don't know if it's a big asks for the community to be like it's 750 K per 20 minutes of animation baseline that's a lot to ask and we as the theme it seems completely underestimated people's interest in seeing what we're doing and so now it's like the top 5 Kickstarter of all time wow it's been really wild it's cool because it kind of in a way like when I think about what you guys are doing I think it's almost like a network you've created and it's it's just cool to see that like your network that you're programming for and doing it has this like big project that like other like corporate networks are gonna look at like wow they just pulled that off like without us you know yeah that's really oh there's been a lot of that we you know we mentioned it in or in our Kickstarter video we took it to them we pitched this thing for like two years yeah and once again kind of going back to what we were saying earlier no one got it where it was too much of a risk it's the pretty woman moment I mean it's hard especially in everybody sorry I love that everybody knows that right I was gonna say quiet cuz I don't think I've seen that movie watch my best friend's wedding the way he does now but 20 years I know I see all these guys I'm sorry I'm completely goof off path you have anything else you guys from when I grew up that was so great looking and now they're all really aging and I'm going oh god that means you're taking the Paul Rudd route you're taking yes exact time never gonna age so okay let's wrap this up this is kind of our combo we're gonna go to Lagos on the table so we're gonna play with Legos sounds like the best this is called buildin chill so we'll kind of let the Legos guide our conversation this is how I take a break but that's why I was asking you because it's like well Legos are my fun thing but now I want to do it with everyone so yeah you know let's do it you know we're gonna say bye real quick and we'll do another segment hey everyone this is your co-host Ella London reminding you to tune in with me to hear Matt Marissa and Valerie on a special episode of build and chill with our producer Spencer Reilly you don't want to miss this one 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Length: 38min 3sec (2283 seconds)
Published: Tue Jul 02 2019
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