Building a DOS Retro PC that everyone can afford

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👍︎︎ 15 👤︎︎ u/ExplodingLemur 📅︎︎ Sep 29 2018 🗫︎ replies

It would be nice if one of the companies that makes embedded boards for POS systems just made an affordable DOS speced (SoundBlaster) tiny system. It would be good for DOS and Linux hobby purposes.

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hey guys welcome to another video I haven't done one of these for quite some time so this will be an unscripted video and the idea is to give you an alternative to the rising process of retro computer part now I play a part of this of course me doing YouTube videos that gets people interested in more people coming into the retro gaming scene of course they want to buy some parts so that has the result that prices are going up especially if you chasing items that are more collector's items here but I try really hard and I do videos showing you budget alternatives for example you could try to get our GeForce 256 or instead just go for Chief was 2m X 400 which is exactly at the same performance level and you can use similar drivers and so on and what we're doing today is we're going to use something a little bit more modern and we're gonna build a 386 equivalent does a retro gaming PC so it'll perform right about at the level of the 386 and it's a concept I've used many times in the past I remember how my retro journey started off I spent I signed up with Vogons and there were all these people building these high-performance PC artists based 486 machines with DX for 100s and cyrix and so on it was even back then those prices were quite steep and so I came along and I had a look well why not just go with opinion and turn off the CPU caches and bam you've got kinda the same thing and back then yeah people thought it was a little bit crazy or whatever but yeah prices have gone up and now super socket 7 machines are very sought after I got an email the other day from someone saying if that person should go for $200 Matt important that's ridiculous $200 for an old motherboard so yes I've got all the parts laid out I will not be using a computer case they take up a lot of space and they make working a little bit more awkward and unnecessary you guys know how to put stuff into a computer case I'm not gonna waste time with that I'm gonna use an open test bench and we're gonna start with talking about the motherboard so throughout the video I will talk a little bit about alternatives and substitutes but with the motherboard you need to make sure it has a chipset from via now I chose this motherboard is its from PC chips it's a non desirable brand to be honest and I think I got these four for $15 the chipset that I recommend going for is the via KT 266 a it's a very good chipset but more importantly is that it's got a wire Southbridge and device half bridge connects directly to the PCI slots and we will be using a PCI sound card that is extremely compatible with DOS one of these sound cards with the Yamaha ymf 744 chip as an alternative you can get something with an ESS chip this is the ESS solo one also very good we will come back to these later so get yourself a cheap socket a motherboard socket a multiples are really interesting at the high end you have the nvidia nforce 2 motherboards and yeah people spend huge money on those getting an F 1 X piece they return a plus and yeah maxing it out but my approaches if you're building a fast machine like that just go for f1 64 so I always think about the next step up you could build a high-end machine of a certain type but I find it more interesting in going with the next step up and getting average parts for some reason I'm always budget oriented people think I have all sorts of expensive paths stashed away but that's actually not my approach I'm just a little bit ahead of the curve so at the moment I'm looking at socket 775 stuff and that seems to be where the value is at the moment I'm actually not buying I haven't been buying retro parts of this nature for quite a while to be honest especially with I say or 386 486 I've got all the stuff I wanted and there's no need to buy any more so sokka day there's usually an issue with the power supply and they draw most of the current from the 5 volt rails this is not an issue we're going to go with a really slow processor so you can use a modern ATX case a modern power supply modern input devices keyboard and mouse and so on yeah next up is the choice of processor slow is good so the general theme for this build is slow it's good so go for the slowest parts that you can find two recommendations we have here in the neuron these are quite interesting they're gold and clock speeds of things you can get them down to around 600 700 megahertz the model we have here let me have a look that's an 800 megahertz model so that's perfect they also I think they've got less cache and therefore run a little bit slower but not much but do consume less power and they have less transistors an alternative is the AMD geode this is the NX 1500 that one runs at 1 gigahertz very interesting chip and you can use software and down clock the multiplier to 3x so with 100 megahertz front side bus you can clock it down to 300 megahertz so these two chips are what I recommend we're gonna go for the Athlon I think this one is more readily available but D Geodude work just as well and maybe that's something we look at in a future video but for the time being we're gonna go with the AMD Athlon okay now we're just gonna insert the processor and the way I do this I have a look at the CPU we can see angled tapered off sections here and they line up with the socket so you just slide it in there shouldn't be any reason to use force there should just drop in if it doesn't go in and very likely one of you pins is bent and you have to straighten them out I like using a mechanical pencil to straighten out the pins okay that's all done we need some thermal paste I like to use active mx4 you really need just a little hint of thermal paste not much at all these processes don't have in I had chase so it's really straightforward and now we just got a mount D processor you can see there's a bit of a gap here that lines up with that plastic bit and off we go so just gonna mount it on this side and then for the other bit we need a screwdriver just push it down and that's it all installed attach the fan and we're good to go and next we need some ramps so this motherboard uses DDR memory and yeah just get the stick of RAM with the smallest amount of memory 256 seems to be my smallest um if I had a like a 16 megabytes stick I would use that but with DDR you can't unfortunately go down to such low capacities so 256 megabytes stick will have to do most games will work just fine there are a few troublemakers but you can limit the RAM with software now it's also good time to secure the motherboard so I'm just gonna quickly pull in a few screws just to give it a bit more stability if you're working with an ATX case of course then you have to spend a little bit more time on installing the motherboard with the i/o shield and all of that but it's all pretty straightforward and common-sense and now we're going to have to talk about the video card you have a choice you can get an AGP video card or something PCI based now usually with video cards that have 3d acceleration like a TT or whatever the PCI flavors are usually more expensive but you might find something like this this has a cirrus logic chip or something from s3 you might find these at a better price and we don't need 3d acceleration we're just gonna play dos cirrus logic is a brand I like even back in the day they've been good values that were priced cheaper they have good compatibility and good speed so you could go with a PCI graphics card this one has a VGA out later I will hook this up to the capture PC and we're gonna go through all these software setup bars and so on so that's what I'm gonna use this graphics card this one has DV DVI out so I this just makes my life easier for capturing that's why I'm using a FX 5200 otherwise I would not be using this card in general the VGA output is a lot sharper and clearer on NVIDIA cards to DVI output is a little bit blurry but still it makes my life easier for capturing that's why I'm going with this video card also I want to say a few things there is this ghana's VGA compatibility matrix and a lot of people look at that matrix they consider certain video card it's got a lot of red flags and they immediately dismiss it and you're just gonna be careful the games on that compatibility matrix a lot of them are like no one placed and they're really they're not yeah popular games or whatever so don't discount a video car just yet try the games that you want to play first you will actually be surprised I think 95% of those games will work just fine on any sort of graphics card so I'm just gonna secure this video card and we are good to go and now we have to talk about sound and sound cards oh my god this is where people get really fired up when it comes about which sound card to use and process external MIDI modules so you can spend a ton of money but luckily with the PCI sound cards with DOS comfortability prices are extremely good no one seems to be looking at them the moment so looked at might change in five or ten years but at the moment you can pick sound cards up for around twenty to thirty dollars and they have excellent does compatibility we're gonna look at two models I've been using and recommending the sound card for a while it is an a open Cobra sound card with the Yamaha yf7 for for chipset and there are a couple of really good things about the sound card it has a Fant ik Yamaha opl3 chip so FM sales absolutely beautiful just as good as any sound blaster or ad-lib cat out there also these are available as new old stock this seller still has stock when we did the promotional video what I mean with that I often work with eBay sellers or contact them if they have something interesting and they have stock for my views to buy I contact them and say hey can I do a video in return you sent me a few sound cards and our promote your eBay shop and then people can buy the sound card and yeah we solved around 200 of these over weekend or something like that and he still had a thousand left so there should be still plenty of stock left however having said that we have seen items in the past where people thought they had time to buy like the NEC wave table board another product that was in a similar situation was the audition 32 sound blaster and also root of three cards out of the US dirt-cheap 20 or 25 dollars they are all gone so don't hesitate too long if you think this is a sound cut that you couldn't use it a build just by for you put them aside and you never know when they come in handy worst case in a few years we can trade it for something else so very interesting sound card the other option is a chip with from ESS de SS solo one bit harder to find but also very interesting doesn't have the authentic opl3 but it has the es FM which is one of the best clones it will sound different in some situations but unless you really feel Miller with how FM sounds and you a beautiful yeah if you picky or you can easily tell differences that this might not actually matter compared to two sound cards and this is just my personal experience that I'm sharing I haven't done any shootouts or whatnot the Yamaha sounds better with the authentic opl3 but the ESS sound card is slightly more compatible it doesn't require an EMS memory manager and I've try this myself so the ESS solo one will work with slightly more games now we're talking oh it's really splitting hairs here it's not like that twice as many games will work on the ESS its its you could say 98% 99% something like that it's it's really just a handful of games that have issues with EMS memory to give you a few examples for example Tarkin 2 will work on this and cut just fine another game that has issues is Wing Commander privateer I believe it doesn't use EMS it's actually got its integrated EMS manager and it will fail on the Yamaha but we'll work on the ESS solo 1 now because of use the Yamaha in the past and I know how the drivers work and everything we're gonna use discount for the time being but eventually there will be a proper review about the ESS solo 1 sound card and there are quite a few other parts that we need let's start with storage there are lots of options you can use a IDE hard drive a modern solid drive you can for example get a Seagate drive use C tools to limit the capacity turn it into a 50 gig hard drive or something like that and use that authority adapters but for pure DOS gaming are like using either compact flash or SD card adapters so this is a typical model it needs a floppy power connector here so you have to look on your power supply this one only has one floppy power connector so you might get one of these adapters that goes for more likes and it splits into two of the was really cheaply available on ebay for a dollar or two so get a pack of five or so on you have them for a future project SD cards I bought them from the supermarket that's the same disc 16 gigabyte very low well basically there's no access time so that's the beauty and they work really well under dos um in general I often use a single IDE cable to connect an optical drive and the hard drive but these adapters often don't like that so we're using two dedicated are the cables so this goes into the storage adapter and then that goes into the primary slot of the motherboard just like that I'm just gonna put this down here for the time being also a floppy drive years ago I started using these gotek floppy emulators and I loved them to bits no more read errors they're reliable I put myself I built myself one USB flash drive and it's got like 100 images and it's got everything I need to set up dos and we will be looking at that later in the video I'm gonna hook this up to the capture computer I'm gonna show you the whole process from partitioning formatting the hard drive installing dos drivers and so on so this will come in super handy we also need a optical drive with an r/t interface and also analog audio outputs if your analog CD music doesn't play it might actually be the drive I have a lot of drives that do have an output but it's actually not working so you wanna mine you want to try a few drives before concluding that the sound card has an issue for example and that goes into the secondary audio connector of the motherboard we also need one of these that connect the CD audio out coming from the optical drive on to the sound cut a lot of DOS games use CD audio music so that's what that is for just like that okay I'll do that later and a modern power supply ATX this is a 450 watt PC from yep XFX really overkill a 350 will do fine any modern ATX power supply will be happily powering this machine and there you go that was the easy part putting all the hardware together be prepared that you might have to move the PCI sound card that has to do with the BIOS allocating a resources but that's yeah that's a minor issue and easy easy to sort it out also for input devices I recommend PS PS to go with a ps2 keyboard and mouse that lets you disable all the USB ports on the motherboard which will steal precious interrupts on this motherboard I believe the USB ports take up to three interrupts and they are very important indoors especially for the sound card so I'm going to use a ps2 keyboard and mouse and we're done with the build so I'm gonna take this and we gotta go to the computer lab I'm gonna hook it up to the capture computer and then we're gonna start installing the software and I'll show you the entire process okay so we're looking at a black screen let me just turn on the computer and hopefully we get a picture I've ejected the SD card because I didn't want the computer to start booting okay we can see the Jurong being detected with 800 megahertz one thing I skipped earlier your motherboard might have a few jumpers you want to set it to 100 megahertz FSB so the motherboard supports 100 or 133 and remember slow is good so go with the 100 megahertz FSB so on this screen we can see a couple things we can see that the primary master disk that is the IDE to SD adapter shows up as an ata 100 device with 33 megabyte for some odd reason and the secretary secondary master drive is our optical drive we can also see a table of PCI devices with the resources let's have a look what's going on interrupt 11:00 is for the graphics the audio controller takes 14 10 is our sound card and the ACP our controller is 9 so that's looking pretty good so I'm gonna reboot the machine and I'm gonna go into the boss so I just didn't Control Alt Delete and I'm hammering the Delete key to enter the good old pliers so usually I load the default you've got a choice optimized or failsafe we're gonna go for failsafe slow is good yeah so anything to do with speed we're gonna turn off so I do have a floppy drive connected we will see if that works let's have a look if there's anything caches we will turn on or off all the caches so we're gonna turn it straight into a 386 we leave that on self-test that's fine first boot device we're gonna go we actually don't need to boot from the cd-rom at the moment but you can change that here so we're gonna make sure we put from the floppy first and then from the hard drive we can disable all the other boot devices we don't need that one we need that one everything else normal fast leave that normal that's all fine smart we can turn that on okay video by shadows improve with your performance we turn it off anything to do with performance improvement we cannot turn off ok DRAM clock that's fine hundred megahertz and we can slow down everything well so really at the slowest so the loading D failsafe or there you go first length actually okay we leave those I think these are the slowest settings that we can use let's have a look cool we leave all that apertures are that's fine AGP mode look we can slow this down a little bit doesn't make a difference to be honest let's have a look PCI waits 0 wait state we turn that off that might slow things down a little bit wise cashable I'll leave that disabled yep that shouldn't really make it friends okay USB we're gonna disable all of them we're gonna leave DRTV that's all fine we leave that default we cannot disable the audio chip and the LAN we cannot turn off all the common and LPT ports AGP video card on cheap USB controller disable USB keyboards or disabled power management we don't need any power management so we can use it for yeah we disable all that we might have to do something here later but I think we'll be fine for the time being we can see here some temperatures and voltages and let's see if we can actually down clock this further no hundred megahertz seems to be the lowest okay I think we are good to go we're just gonna save that and do another another boot take your memories or checking out and it's gonna detect all the devices beautiful okay I'm just going to shut it down and I'm gonna insert the SD card so that's all off camera you can see that and I'm also gonna insert my flash drive that I've built and I've got a table somewhere with it tells me there it is it tells me which images on what slot so turn on the machine again we're gonna go back in the device just to auto detect just to order to take the hard drive where's that option doesn't seem to have one interesting all right under here okay yeah 16 gig that's fine and here's our object right that's fine as well we might as well just can we just turn them off here now we just leave it okay that's good to go the clock is paid off let me just quickly fix that 24 and it is 1208 wonderful okay press f10 and press Yes to boot of the floppy disk so this might take a while now where do you get the floppy disk floppy disk images from I'll go to boot disk calm and F gotta ms-dos 6.22 image is actually executable so you run it on a machine that has a floppy drive or I can see this just still a USB controller showing up let me just reboot again I must have skipped up it it showed a few resources for the USB that should be under here ah there you go all disabled strange a fault I checked all of them but obviously it didn't so let's do it again so ya put this got conned I've got excellent boot disks da 6.22 but also Windows 95 windows 98 se and I like booting from the floppy disk and then to partition and format G the hard drive that we're using in our case it's an SD card so this is gonna take a while not too long but it will load the storage driver for the optical drive so that's a good test to see if your optical drive works and it seems to be working just fine it's picking up the drive it gives the device name banana which is quite interesting okay we run fdisk so that's the partition tool for dos we press option number four okay there's a petition on there but it's Nando's so we're gonna wipe that we're gonna choose option three delete partition option for delete Nando's acknowledge press yes it's gone press escape again now we're going to create a partition press option one create primary option one again and it's gonna think for a while we just got a follow the prompts and the system will now restart so what happened now it created a primary dose petition on the SD card it should be 2 gigabytes if it's 512 megabyte then you might have an issue with the boys not supporting it shouldn't be a case if you using a socket and machine you should not have that issue it should show up as a 2gig partition just fine and now we have to format it there a couple of tricks with formatting if you're using a factory new SD card or compact flash card so if it came in a package you opened it so it hasn't been used before it will not boot it out of the box and I get that issue I get a lot of comments about that so I'm gonna show you what to do so we're going to format the C Drive with this /s command which will transfer the system files so it's just accessing the floppy drive to get the system files and then it's gonna proceed formatting there you go 2 gigabytes and that's a lot of benefit of using an SD card formatting partitioning it all happens quickly if you're using a platter hard drive especially a large one there's nothing worse than formatting 120 gig hard drive with dos ok we give it a label label let's call it Time Machine the caps won't show up but that's ok so it's all formatted and the system files have been transferred now the it should boot now but usually doesn't so you need to a couple of commands that you can use suzay that's a bit redundant it will just copy the system files across sorry sis see it will copy the system files across the receipt drive once again and make it to make it bootable it's a bit redundant because we formatted it with the /s command but it's another tool in the toolbox that you can use but the real command you need to use is fdisk slash MBR without that if you're using a factory new SD card you just open the open it out of the box it will not put ok so we're good to go so I'm gonna do two things I'm gonna firstly checked my USB to see if we actually if it's actually booting of the SD card and once that that once that is confirmed I will change the boot order so it doesn't prove from the floppy drive anymore starting ms-dos dead wonderful okay I put my go tech back in the floppy drive we gonna reboot and I'm gonna change the boot order press Delete actually not actually no I'm not sure if that boot disk uses a ram disk I don't think it does so uh server that let's go back into the boss boot order first boot device hard drive and disable that press f10 yeah so the reason I'm doing this uncut is I do often get comments about are you skip things or you shorten the video can't you just show the whole process and yes I can so that's what we're doing I'm just hammering f5 to skip all the boot stuff and okay it does use a ram drive so oh I got to go to the a there's everything fantastic so let's create a das directory and with the copy command Astrix dot txt means everything so we're copying everything to the C Drive so that includes files like the editor that includes very important files like this one here the EMM 386 Exe we definitely need that one we need the MSC de X that's for the optical drive and a check disk is important to check your integrity of your storage device hi ma'am sys also very important duskie yeah some of those tools are not actually used but they can come in handy so really we don't need a copy of DOS 6.22 we can just use that boot disk from boot disk calm it's got everything we need for gaming it might be missing a few files that come with the full version of ms-dos 6.22 but nothing that we need okay next up we need some drivers and the boot menu so I've got a website fills to first computer lab calm and I use that to upload files to help you guys out when I do tutorial like that so on my go Tech on slot 38 so I'm just pressing the buttons on 38 I've got my ms-dos starter pack so you can download that and it will look like this there will be a install let's run that and yeah explains what's happening so it says don't run this from within Windows 9x 9895 this is for pure DOS press ok it copies across a mouse driver optical driver and autoexec.bat file and config dot sys so we do a reboot and we should now have a functioning system with a boot menu phildee for the memory options and we will talk about that very shortly so here we go it's going to take a while this is the boot menu so we've got a couple of memory options convential we've got conventional memory extended memory endings and expanded and because I'll do benchmarking I've got an option without the mouse and without the optical drive but when you play games and you don't need an optical drive I've got an option for that because the optical drive can use a bit of memory and this one has everything Mouse and the optical drive most games should work with expanded memory and you get the most amount of conventional memory so games like a Wing Commander and most other games will work with this option just fine games that don't like an expanded memory manager for example our turrican 2 is a good example choose the second option and some car some games don't like either of those good example is I believe one of the Ultima games is one of those where you don't want a memory manager just choose this option cougar with the first one because I want to see if the mouse and my cd-rom works so I've got the cd-rom driver the cute mouse driver shows up so I'm gonna press edit which gives us the text editor and here we go I've got my working Mouse okay what I'm going to do next is shut down the computer I'm gonna eject the SD card and we're gonna copy across the drivers for the sound card and also some games okay and we are back so a couple of view files onto the SD card and the first thing we're gonna do is I'll show you what I copied so we've got das bench that's a benchmark pack you can also download that from the website set mal that's a software tool lets you toggle the cache on and off and we can also check it out later we've got a batch file here ymf dot dat this will load these sound card drivers now just a more convenient way so it goes into the drivers directory then into ymf then it runs setup des /s to initialize the count and then dsdm a which is a driver to make the Sound Blaster compatibility proper work properly and then a set blaster variable to have address to 20 interrupts 5 and deem a 1 and the sound blaster pro mode and then it goes back to the root directory so let's run toast bench first oops caps lock so you get a menu like this with a 386 type machine and that's what we have at the moment all the caches are turned off you want to use option 1 if you have the caches enabled go with option 2 for 3 deep engine so let's just run it and we'll see we'll see what school we're getting I'm quite familiar with the 3d bench results so I should be able to tell you what sort of a machine this equates to so here we go we're getting 16.6 that is bang on the level of our 386 DX 40 so it's a bit of a faster machine so Wing Commander one might be a little bit too fast but a Wing Commander 2 should work just fine and now we're gonna toggle the cache so we go into the set mult utility set mal and the command is l1 e for level 1 cache enable I believe and here we go CPU detected enabling level 1 cache so we go back into dos bench and now we have to run option two because option 1 is for slow pcs it tops out at 99 FPS so we run option 2 and we should get a much better result and the top of game that we're gonna play depends if you want cache on and off so old games like Wing Commander point-and-click adventures run best with the 386 like Monkey Island might have some sound glitches as well but if you want to play Doom or a descent or Tomb Raider then we're gonna enable the cache so I'm gonna turn off the cache again and then we're gonna check out the sound card I want the full cache disabled so if you go into the drivers directory the mouse and the cd-rom driver that came with the dual starter pack the ymf directory these drivers are also available on our website you can just type it in the search box and you'll find it so setup yes launches the configuration panel for the Yama sound card now unfortunately the way I've set everything up but didn't quite think that through is at the moment we can't capture audio so what I'm gonna do is capture the gameplay separately where you just hear the output coming from the sound card so that all looks fine you can you can see that under here under it's grayed out interrupt mode and that's all grayed out don't worry about that there's a sound test which lets you play some sound got a little speaker connected to my computer so I can hear that but you can't and FM sound just checks that the FM chip is working properly it plays a bit of music so that's all working fine it's performing a bit sluggish that's because we have got the cache disabled say save and exit and then the second program we need is DSD MA there you go and I put all of that in the batch file so if we do a restart there you go and I've created the batch files just called ymf that will initialize the cart and load the drivers okay so we're pretty much done so I'm gonna do a couple of game captures firstly games with the CPU cache turned off and then we're going to have a look at Tomb Raider and maybe a few other games where a faster processor is required and after that we'll be back and we're gonna wrap up this video affirmative captain affirmative captain affirmative captain we shall destroy Terra [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] okay guys and we are back there's one little thing that I forgot to do initially and that has to do with getting CD audio so we gotta run the software again and it actually has a mixer in there which you need to configure so you go to volume and then under CD by default the mute was set to on yep so you just have to make sure this is set to OFF and then here I believe you can set the negative decibel just you can quite you basically make it a little bit quieter also if you're using the auxiliary input or the line input yeah you also have to configure the mixer settings here and there's another mixer option here or legacy so that might be for some sound plus the compatibility or something like that yeah so just in case if you're wondering if you see the audio y-you see the or it doesn't work you need to go in here unmute it and then make sure you save the settings and now let's summarize this video so here is the finished build I just basically unplugged it from the capture computer and moved it all into this room on once again so that's the system how I used it so whatever god we saw that with the setup that we have here and disabling the caches we basically got ourselves of 386 and by using the right sound card we're getting an authentic opl3 and really good sound quality I also tested that the joystick worked in Wing Commander 2 I used an analog joystick which code goes into the sound card and after changing the mixer settings in the software the CD audio was also working we then turned on the caches and we tried some faster games doing for example arounds much better with the cache is enabled and also tomb raider high resolution 640 by 480 and that's where the Athlon has a lot of power unlocked the older k6 processes which had a fairly weak floating-point unit TF only a powerful so demanding dose games will be silky smooth on this machine and also here's the ps2 keyboard announced nothing special if you want to use USB input devices depending on the motherboard that might actually work you're just gonna make sure that it doesn't gobble up too many interrupts and now just a bit of a reality check so I'm not saying that this is exactly a 386 compatibility should be pretty good now even if you build a 386 not every game is gonna work our cities and forums all the time so don't think if you spend big money on a 386 with I say stuff that every game is gonna work you will run into issues it's just the nature of the beast there are compatibility issues but I can tell you that most of the games maybe 90 95 % of the DOS games will work just fine on this machine and you have upgrade options yep so you can switch the graphics card go with PCI which might be more compatible you can plug in a CT because we still have VGA outputs for the sound you can get a Yamaha sound canvas sorry a rolling sound canvas or a Yamaha mu 80 or something like that to improve your general MIDI to get better music but yeah and put everything in a case so it doesn't look as rushed as this built but yeah hopefully this gives you guys a bit of an idea of thinking outside the box and that there are alternatives there is so much cheap hardware out there it's ridiculous people just get caught up on I don't know googling gravis ultrasound and then oh my god it's 400 euros yeah well of course if you want to gravis ultrasound then you basically collect and it's gonna cost you but there is so so many alternative parts that cost nothing that no one wants like who would've ever thought that a via socket a motherboard will become interesting or desirable no one so they're still going for very little money and yeah so that was a feature packed video I'll try to put some links in the description for some of the but most of them are just on my website and yeah if you have any specific questions about anything you've seen in the video don't be shy leave them down below in the comments I'll try to answer them maybe someone else will that's how the community operates and yeah let me know what other projects interest you I haven't done anything with DOS in a while mostly because I've kind of I kind of feel like I've done it all already there are tutorials for installing doors there are two tours how to build a machine but I've haven't done a proper tutorial for using a socket a machine and I think this might be the next best thing if you want to build a DOS gaming machine but you don't want to spend too much money and yeah that's it guys thank you so much for watching as always if you enjoy this video be sure to subscribe if you haven't done so already and give it a like share the video with your friends and your social media and that's it thank you for watching while shell see you soon with another one
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Channel: PhilsComputerLab
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Keywords: Building a DOS PC, Building a Retro PC, Building a 386, Are Retro PC expensive?, Can you build a cheap DOS PC?, Socket A Retro PC, PCI DOS Sound Card, Yamaha YMF, ESS Solo-1, Joystick in DOS, DOS Tutorial, Uncut tutorial, Avoid steep Retro prices, How to build an affordable Retro PC, Installing MS-DOS, Installing DOS onto SD card
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Length: 46min 57sec (2817 seconds)
Published: Sat Sep 29 2018
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