British EM-2: The Best Cold War Battle Rifle that Never Was

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adopted in 1951.

For, like, 5 minutes.

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Just imagine being a soldier going from a bolt action gun to one of these.

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The black dot on the wall behind him is infuriating. Great video though.

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Hi guys, thanks for tuning into another video on ForgottenWeapons.com. I'm Ian McCollum, I am here today at the Royal Armouries, the National Firearms Centre in Leeds, England, and I am here today courtesy of ARES, Armament Research Services. Today we are taking a look at a pair of British EM-2 rifles. Now this rifle was actually adopted, very briefly, in 1951 as Rifle Number 9 Mark I by the British military, and then subsequently un-adopted in 1952, for largely political reasons, and we will get into that story in just a moment. What I'd like to start with though, is the basic overview of this rifle. This really was a gun that was well ahead of it's time. It was the first militarily significant bullpup rifle. It was a rifle designed for an intermediate style of cartridge. It was a rifle that had only limited back-up iron sights and was equipped primarily with an optical sight, which was a fairly novel concept in the 1940s, when this was designed. The Germans had expressed an interest in doing that but were never able to actually fulfil it. The British came very close to actually implementing that whole concept. The lead engineer on this project was a Polish emigrant to the UK, by the name of ... Stefan Januszewski, I think, he had the practical sense after being naturalised as a UK subject in 1947 to anglicise his name and became known as Janson, which is how I will refer to him henceforth, because my Polish pronunciation is not good. So this became known as the EM-2, or the Janson rifle. ... Development began in 1947, although Janson did actually have a significant role in the development of the EM-1 Korsak rifle which was largely a copy of the FG-42 in bullpup form. I have a separate video on that rifle, which you should check out if you haven't seen it yet. So, a lot of the work that went into that rifle, while that gun ... was not particularly practical, it set a lot of the groundwork for guns like the EM-2 that would follow afterwards. So that rifle development began in '45, with Janson playing a role, in '47 it was scrapped, ... because it wasn't showing serious promise, and development instead turned to the EM-1, by an Englishman named Thorpe, and the EM-2 here, by Janson. Mechanically, this is basically a copy of the German G43 system. It is a flapper locked action (we'll pull one of these apart in just a moment). But it's interesting that a bunch of these British post-war development rifles were in fact copied from German mechanisms. In fact, all three of the EM series of rifles are this way. The Korsak EM-1 was a copy of the FG-42. The Thorpe EM-1 was, largely, a copy of the ... GerΓ€t 06, and then the Janson EM-2 here was largely a copy of the G43. These systems worked, why not? Everyone recognised that the Germans had had a pretty substantial small-arms development program during the war, and everyone was quite happy to take advantage of standing on those shoulders. Now in terms of cartridge, the British had ... properly taken a lesson from World War Two that infantry combat wasn't taking place at extended ranges. The existing cartridges, the .303 British in British service, the .30-06 in American service, which would become very relevant, we'll get to that. These were cartridges designed to be effective out to 600 or 800 yards, if not farther. But combat did never take place at those distances. Honestly, with an iron sighted rifle you can't even identify a target at anything close to those ranges. Instead, combat was actually was taking place at 300 to 400 yards. And the British recognised that, and developed an intermediate cartridge to reduce the amount of impact on the guns, reduce the weight of the ammunition, reduce the recoil, make the guns more shootable, more controllable. In pretty much every way, you kind of want the lightest cartridge that will effectively do the job, because it makes everything else in the problem simpler. And the cartridge that was designed for this rifle was the .280 British, this was a .280 calibre, a 7mm bullet. ... It started as a 130 grain bullet travelling at about 2,400 feet per second. That was later bumped up slightly to a 140 grain bullet travelling at 2,530 feet per second. ... This is a little bit more powerful of a round than something like the German 8mm Kurz, but it's still substantially less powerful than the .30-06 or the .303 British, and ... that was the idea. Now they had a 20 round magazine of these cartridges in this rifle. And remember this would have been replacing the .303 Lee-Enfield, the Number 4 Lee-Enfield rifle, and this was a massive technological advancement over a bolt action Lee-Enfield. This allowed a far higher rate of fire for the infantry, faster reloading, faster follow-up shots, more accurate, this was really a pretty excellent rifle in 1947. In total, 55 of these would be built, 5 of them being prototypes, and then 50 production guns. The first of those production guns were a series of 20, manufactured ... primarily by Enfield. The first 3 were done by a contractor in Hammersmith, and then the remaining 17 done by the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield. And these were put together in 1948, they were tested in the UK, and did pretty well. This all was building up to a 1950 trial at Aberdeen Proving Grounds in the United States. So, in the aftermath of World War Two, the Allies decided that they really ought to standardise on an infantry rifle. There had obviously been logistical problems during World War Two where, you know, if the British needed small-arms ammunition, well, the US didn't have .303 to give them, the French didn't have .303 to give them. Everyone had their own rifle and their own ammunition, and none of it was interchangeable. Well, we're putting together NATO. If we're going to fight another world war, as a group of Allies, it makes a lot of logistical sense for people to have standardised equipment. So in Aberdeen in 1950 there was the first trial held with the idea of adopting ... both a standard cartridge and a standard rifle. This trial had three competitors entered. From the US it had the T25 rifle, designed by Earle Harvey. (I don't have a video on that, but I do have a written blog post on it, if you would like to know more about that rifle.) ... Honestly, it wasn't very successful, it had a lot of problems. It was, however, chambered for what would become the .308 NATO cartridge, the T65 cartridge. It was the developmental version of this round, which was ballistically pretty much the same as .30-06, though with a slightly shorter case, so that the rifles could be made a bit shorter. In competition to that, the British brought the EM-2 in .280, and the Belgians brought an early version of the FN FAL, also in .280. And, honestly, all three rifles kind of had some trouble at this initial trial. The EM-2 had some parts breakage issues, it also was disappointingly inaccurate, although it appears that the batch of ammunition that was brought to this trial was kind of suspect. When they chronographed it, when they did an ammunition trial at the same time, the muzzle velocity on the .280 British ammo at this trial was several 100 feet per second slower than what the spec was. It was at, like, 2,270 feet per second instead of 2,450, and it had serious accuracy problems. That doesn't appear to have been the fault of the rifle, it appears to have been the ammo, but 75 years later it's a bit ... hard to tell for sure. The FAL had some accuracy issues. The American T25 was kind of a train wreck of a rifle, it didn't go well. In fact, Harvey didn't even realise that this was going to be a serious trial. He was under the impression that this was, basically, just kind of a preliminary inspection, and he would be home that evening on the evening train, which was not the case. At any rate, the outcome of this trial was pretty much the US came to the conclusion that they were not willing to accept an intermediate cartridge. They thought that the ballistic power of .30-06, or the new T65, which would become 7.62 NATO, they thought that was critically important, they didn't want to give up effective range. Part of this may have had to do with wanting to continue to use that same cartridge in medium and emplaced machine guns where that ballistic capability is a bit more important. At any rate, in 1952 the US finally just came out and flat out said, "We will not accept anything less than a .30 calibre cartridge". That is why the EM-2 was un-adopted. Now, in the aftermath of this trial a couple of things were done, the British, and the Canadians and the Belgians all together, decided that they'd have to try and accommodate the US desire for a more powerful cartridge, and so they looked into some cartridge development. They started making this .280 cartridge progressively closer to .308 NATO, ... they increased the velocity, they increased the bullet weight, they made the case longer, and it got closer and closer, but it was never something that the American Ordnance Department was willing to accept. In April of 1951, the British Defence Minister, a guy named Emanuel Shinwell, came out and publically stated that the British military would be adopting this rifle as Rifle Number 9 Mark 1, because it really was, in the British eyes, and objectively at that point, the best option available. And they thought that the rest of NATO would go along with them. However, this didn't happen. It was shortly after this that the US came out and publicly said that they wouldn't accept anything less than .30 calibre. At that point Winston Churchill had been re-elected as Prime Minister, and in the interests of maintaining a good relationship with NATO, he un-adopted this rifle. They said, "OK we won't go with that, we will go with the American cartridge". What happened at that point was the British and the Belgians decided to accept the FN FAL in .308, or in 7.62 NATO, as the standard rifle. And they were under the impression that if they made that compromise and accepted the American cartridge, the American military would also make a compromise and accept the FN FAL as its issue rifle. Now this is getting into a whole another story, but American Ordnance was not willing to accept the FAL, and would continue trials, and would eventually adopt the M14 instead, rather to the disgust of the European militaries that had, they thought, been bargaining in good faith. At any rate, what we are looking at today is not the FAL and not the M14, but the EM-2. So let's take a closer look at this, some of it's features, and then take it apart. One thing I want to start with is that this rifle has, aside from the fact that it is a bullpup, absolutely no similarity or connection to the later British SA80 or L85 bullpups, those are mechanically completely different guns. However the British government, or military, was interested in this bullpup concept, and their interest stayed over several decades, hence we have the EM-2 as a bullpup and also the L85 as a bullpup. But there is no developmental continuity between these two projects. Now, with that said, this rifle was designed only to be fired from the right shoulder, there were some theoretical plans to make left- handed versions, but that never actually materialised. It's a 20 round magazine in the back. The magazine is a bit complex, it does have some features (this one's a little sticky at the moment) well, it has a stripper clip guide built into the back of the magazine (this one only wants to come up halfway, but you get the idea), you can actually pull this up, it snaps over and then you can load the magazine from stripper clips without needing a separate tool. ... So, when the magazine is empty, the rifle will lock open, like so, and normally with a magazine fed rifle, I can take the magazine out and then if I want to close the bolt, I just ... the charging handle. On the EM-2 that does nothing. because this is designed to ... when you insert a loaded magazine it automatically trips the bolt release, closes the bolt, chambers the first round and presents you with a rifle ready to fire. Now, should you want to close the bolt without having a loaded magazine, you can do that. You actually take the magazine release and you push it backwards ... like that, and as long as there is no magazine in the gun, that will close the bolt. So, it's actually a pretty slick system, it's a little bit complicated, but not as bad as you might expect. Now there is also a dust cover here, that snaps shut, prevents ingress of gunk into the bolt. There is also an open slot here for the charging handle, although you'll notice that when the charging handle is closed, the gas piston takes up this slot. Overall this is a pretty well sealed up gun. The safety is located here in the front of the trigger guard, very much like the M1 Garand. That's safe, that's ready to fire. It's an ambidextrous system, although that doesn't really matter on a rifle that can only be shot right handed. But it's also a system that makes it very evident to the shooter when the safety is on, and it's actually an easier safety to disengage than the M1, which is kinda nice. We have a button here on the side, this is a ... push-through button, and that is the fire selector. So you can see it is marked 'R' on that side for repetition, or semi-auto, and then if you push it through on the other side it's marked 'A', for automatic, so that's full-auto, and that's your fire selector, ... Like ... the L85 that would come much later, this has ... two separated controls, one for safe and fire, and one for single shot and fully automatic. One of the other really cool elements to the EM-2 was that it was intended to be used primarily with an optical sight for everybody who was issued the gun. This conical thing here is actually a shield over the optic, it is what was called a Unit Optic, it is a one power, so non-magnifying, optic and it has a ... little pointer in it that was zeroed for 200 yards with then two ... holdover ... lines, for 400 and 600 yards (actually I think that would have been metres, but close enough ...). There is then a backup iron sight mounted on the rear sight bracket here. And a folding backup front sight ... there on the gas block. So you did have emergency iron sights, if necessary. But this was intended to be used primarily with the optical sight. You can see the back of the optic there, it's a really, really tiny lens, it's like a 4 or 5mm lens, even smaller than the German ZF-41. But, it was intended to be light and simple, and that shield around it made it pretty durable. There's the front end. This, I suspect, would have been pretty quickly improved and modified if the rifle had gone into service. Although what's interesting is they did take this optic and carry it over to the early British FAL rifles. The first ones they did experiment with this exact same optic. Alright, there is the reticle system, I've got that close to in focus, you would see the same system basically used on the Trilux optic for many, many decades later. Alright, and then we have our emergency front sight there, rear sight here, which gives you just a simple aperture sight picture like that. Of course, it is intended to be used with the optic. So, the standard rifle was about 3.5 kilograms, which is just a little under 8 pounds. And had a 24.5 inch barrel, which is quite a remarkably long barrel, remember this is a bullpup, so the barrel ends here, and starts all the way back there. They did also have plans to consider a paratrooper version, a carbine version, and we have one of those examples here, this is a magnificently handy little rifle. It's about 5 inches shorter, I don't have an exact measurement on the barrel, but the hand guards are almost the same length. The barrel here comes to right about this point on the standard rifle. So they made a couple prototypes of these, it's interesting to note that while they were doing this, they were also looking at other potential issues. You can see that a little shield has been added here. This would have been blocking the magazine catch from the shooter's body, so they might have had some issues with people accidentally tripping the mag catch. I don't know if it's just age and wear, but the mag catch springs on these two rifles are both fairly light. It doesn't take a lot of pressure to drop the magazine. And this may have been just an experiment to try and prevent that from becoming a problem. So, disassembly, we are going to start by taking out the magazine. I do want to comment, this is so magnificently simple compared to the EM-1, and honestly, it's a pretty simple and effective field stripping system by any standard, even today. So the first step is going to be to remove the butt plate. On the butt plate we have this spring-loaded button, I push that in and rotate the butt plate, and then it's going to come out with it's recoil spring and guide. Next, I am going to pull the charging handle all the way back. At this point, the charging handle slot is enlarged and the handle can come out. ... The gun has been dry fired, so I do need to cock it in the process, so this is going to be a little bit of a stiff pull, there we go. That comes to there, I can pull the charging handle out. And then, at the back of the gun, I have access to the bolt and the operating rod. Those come right out, and then the bolt drops off of the op rod. One more step to basic disassembly is to remove the fire control group, we're going to do that by removing this one pin, so I push that pin through, pull it out ... Captive pin, stays in there. And then the back of the grip comes up, and the whole thing comes out. There we have a completely field stripped EM-2 para, this is, like I said, a really simple, slick, system. Mechanically speaking, this rifle works ... virtually exactly like the German G43. So we have a pair of flaps in the bolt here, they are currently retracted, which is unlocked, and allows the bolt to cycle. The operating rod has this round peg that locks into the bolt here, and when it goes into battery, this is going to push forward, and a plug inside the bolt, spreads these two flaps outward, here they would be locked into ... the trunnion. That solidly locks the bolt, and then to fire it, you press up on this little lever right at the front of the bolt. Now the way the rifle is set up. when the bolt is in battery, it is going to be sitting right about here, the trigger mechanism sits right there, and so you can see that these two line up, like this. When I pull the trigger, we have this blade at the back of the mechanism that lifts up, that is directly in line with that trip on the bottom of the bolt. When I push that in ... (it's got a quite stiff spring in it), it fires, and the firing pin protrudes through. To re-cock the action, all you have to do is pull this internal block backwards, which is done by the operating rod, which sits there, and when the rifle cycles, the operating rod comes back, you can see it clicks into place, the two flaps retract into the bolt, the firing pin is re-cocked. The empty case is then ejected, and a new case loaded from the magazine. Thank you guys for watching. I hope you enjoyed the video. It was really cool to get a chance to take a look at, not just a standard one, but also one of the prototype short paratrooper versions of the EM-2. This thing is one of the coolest guns I think I've ever run across, it's just got ... all sorts of ... so cool. At any rate, if you would like to see more about these guns, there are a couple things that you can do. One is to check out the Armament Research Services blog, they will be posting high res pictures of these guns as the video goes up. and you can see a link to that in the description text below. And of course, you could come here to the National Firearms Centre in Leeds, and take a look at these guns yourself. They have actually a substantial number of these, oh, a dozen or 15 of them, I believe, of several different calibres, experimental versions, all sorts of cool stuff. Their collection here is not open to the general public, but it is available by appointment. So if you are doing particular research on these guns, or anything else that the NFC has in its collection, by all means contact them, set up an appointment, and come take a look at the collection. Thanks for watching. [ cc by sk cn2 ]
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Length: 21min 50sec (1310 seconds)
Published: Wed Jul 12 2017
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