ANYWAY, HERE ON SET GREAT PLEASURE, MY PAL TALKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE STORY, BRIAN KILMEADE, COHOST OF "FOX & friends," HOST OF "ONE NATION," HOST OF THE BRIAN KILMEADE RADIO SHOW. HELLO, BRIAN WITH. >> GREAT TO SEE YOU, LARRY. LARRY: THANK YOU FOR COMING ON. JUST A WORD ON THE BIDENOMICS. I ASKED BILL HEMMER THIS MORNING IF HE COULD DEFINE BIDENOMICS, NOT EVEN HEMMER -- WHO'S A GOOD COMMUNICATOR, COULD DO IT. CAN YOU? >> "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" TOOK A SHOT AT IT, AND THEN HE SAID LET'S EMBRACE IT BECAUSE OUR JOB NUMBERS LOOK SO GOOD. HE KEEPS ON TALKING ABOUT PRE-PANDEMIC JOB NUMBERS AND HOW MUCH HE ADDED. YOU TOLD AMERICA TO GO HOME AND STOP WORKING BEFORE THE GOOD AND THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD, THE PLANET, AND WE DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THE LAST TIME. THAT WAS REGIONAL. NOW WITH TRAVEL IT WAS A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. SO AS PEOPLE CAME BACK TO WORK NATURALLY, DIDN'T GET REHIRED, HE'S TAKING CREDIT FOR IT, AND HE EXPECTS US TO HAVE SHORT-TERM MEMORY LOSS AND NOT REALIZE THAT. WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES, YOU'VE BEEN IN MORE ECONOMIC CLASSES AND SAT THROUGH MORE SEMINARS THAN I WILL EVER DO IN 20 LIFETIMES. BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD THE CONCEPT OF MIDDLE-OUT AND BOTTOM-UP. YOU DIDN'T BRING DOWN TRICKLE DOWN, DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T BRING UP TRICKLE DOWN. THAT'S A RONALD REAGAN POLICY THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE -- LARRY: A DEROGATORY, A DEROGATORY DESCRIPTION OF SUPPLY-SIDE TAX CUTS THAT CREATES INCENTIVES TO WORK, SAVE AND INVEST AND THE REAGAN BOOM. THAT'S BIDEN. AND, BY THE WITHDRAW, BIDEN -- THE PHONY THAT HE IS -- ACTUALLY VOTE FOR RONALD REAGAN'S SECOND TAX CUT. I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, I'M JUST SAYING. BIDEN AS A SENATOR IN 1986 -- [LAUGHTER] VOTED FOR REAGAN'S SECOND TAX CUT WHICH BROUGHT THE TOP RATE DOWN TO 28%. >> WELL, I KNOW. AND ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO CRIME, HE'S TOTALLY VOTING AGAINST WHAT, HIS POLICIES ARE TOTALLY AGAINST WHAT HE SUPPORTED HIS ENTIRE CAREER. SO HAVING SAID THAT, WHEN HE SAYS I SIT AROUND AND TABLE AND HE SAID BIDENOMICS IS PEOPLE HAVING A JOB AND TALK ABOUT SELF-ESTEEM, THAT WHOLE THING FLIES IN THE FACE OF WHAT HE'S DOING BECAUSE ON AVERAGE YOU KNOW THAT THE AVERAGE FAMILY HAS LOST $10,000 UNDER HIS POLICIES. AND ON AVERAGE PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A JOB FOR SELF-ESTEEM, SO WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE GOING BACK TO WORK? AND NUMBER TWO IS WAGES ARE GOING UP BUT NOT AS IT RELATES TO INFLATION. SO THIS IS THE BIG -- THERE WAS A STUDY DONE BY FOX NEWS, JUST DID IT, SAYS DOES THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW AFFECT HOW YOU FEEL AND DOES IT AFFECT YOU WITH. ONLY 6% SAID YES. THAT GOES DIRECTLY AGAINST HIS STORY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED WHEN HIS DAD SAT AROUND A KITCHEN TABLE AND SAID A JOB IS MORE THAN JUST HAVING A JOB, IT'S YOUR SENSE OF SELF-WORTH. 6% OF PEOPLE SAY THE ECONOMY AFFECTS ME DIRECTLY. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 94%? SO HE'S GOING TO CAMPAIGN ON THIS WHICH IS CRAZY BECAUSE POLITICIANS ARE USUALLY STREET SMART. WHY WOULD THEY RUN ON SOMETHING THEY REALLY CAN'T -- PEOPLE AREN'T FEELING? LARRY: I AGREE. I DON'T THINK HE CAN SELL BIDENOMICS. I THINK THAT'S NUMBER ONE. PEOPLE KNOW THAT. I'VE SEEN POLLS -- ACTUALLY, THERE WAS A FOX NEWS POLL, 25-30% OF PEOPLE SUPPORT HIS HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY. 60-70% OPPOSE HIS HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY. THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY BAD. I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT ALTHOUGH IT'S THE SAME ECONOMIC SUBJECT, BRIAN KILMEADE. ONE GUY WITH OUT THERE CAMPAIGNING HARD ON THE ECONOMY AND HIS PAST ACHIEVEMENTS IS MY FORMER BOSS, DONALD TRUMP. AND I WANT TO MAKE THIS POINT WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT MR. TRUMP HAS OPENED UP A HUGE -- NOW, I KNOW IT'S POLLS, NOT VOTES. BUT, IN FACT, HE'S GOT -- >> BUT THERE'S SO MANY POLLS THAT A SAY THE SAME THING. LARRY: RIGHT. HE'S GOT A 30 TO 40-POINT LEAD OVER DeSANTIS. ACTUALLY, WE TALK LAST NIGHT, VIVEK RAMASWAMY IS NOW MOVING UP TO 10% AND MAY, WHO KNOWS, SURPASS DeSANTIS. MY THEORY THOUGH BESIDES THE UNFAIRNESS AND THE DOUBLE STANDARDS OF ALL THE JUDICIAL INDICTMENTS WHICH IS JUST HORRIBLE, TRUMP IS RUNNING ON ISSUES -- AN ISSUES CAMPAIGN. LET ME PUT UP ON THE FULL SCREEN WHAT TRUMP -- IT'S ALREADY UP THERE, OKAY. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY READ, HE'S PUTTING OUT POSITION PAPER AFTER POSITION PAPER. HE'S GOT, BY THE WAY, VINCE HALEY, ROSS WORTHINGTON, TWO SMART GUYS RUNNING HIS POLICY SHOP DURING THE CAMPAIGN. HE CONSULTS, OBVIOUSLY, WITH OUTSIDERS AND FORMER ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS. BRIAN, BUDGET IMPANELMENT TO SLASH SPENDING, REDUCE BIDEN-FLATION AND SAVE THE ECONOMY. THESE ARE POSITION PAPERS, 3, 4, 5-PAGE PAPERS. UNLEASH AMERICA'S ENERGY DOMINANCE, RECIPROCAL AND FAIR TRADE, CRUSH THE DEEP STATE, ERADICATE BIDEN ROLES ON DEI, WOKE AND SEX IDEOLOGY, EDUCATION POWER TO PARENTS, SECURE THE BORDER, MILITARY ACTION AGAINST DRUG CARTELS AND RENEW U.S. STRENGTH IN WORLD LEADERSHIP. THIS IS JUST A HANDFUL. THERE ARE OTHERS. I GOT A WHOLE FILE AT HOME. BUT HERE'S MY POINT AND I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS. I THINK ONE REASON MR. DeSANTIS HAS DONE POORLY IS HE HAS NO ECONOMIC AGENDA AND REALLY HAS NOT CREATED A POLICY AGENDA. THAT'S POINT NUMBER ONE. POINT NUMBER TWO, RUN REASON -- ONE REASON VIVEK RAMASWAMY IS MOVING UP SLIGHTLY -- MAYBE OUT OF THE PACK INTO THIRD PLACE, PRESSING INTO SECOND -- HE'S AN IDEAS-DRIVEN GUY. WE'VE HAD HIM ON THE SET, YOU'VE PROBABLY HAD HIM AS A GUEST MANY TIMESES ON F AND F. AND THE KEY REASON MR. TRUMP LIKE 2016, TRUMP RAN AN ISSUES CAMPAIGN. 2020 HE RAN A GRIEVANCE CAMPAIGN. '24 HE'S RUNNING AN ISSUES CAMPAIGN, AND I THINK THAT HAS TURNED THINGS AROUND IN WAYS THAT MAYBE EVEN HIS CLOSEST FRIENDS DIDN'T THINK POSSIBLE. [LAUGHTER] >> A COUPLE THINGS. 100% RIGHT -- LARRY: SORRY TO BE LONGWINDED. >> NO, NO, 100% CORRECT. DeSANTIS' POLICIES ARE IN HIS BOOK, AND HE'S GOT TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS. WHAT I DID IN FLORIDA, AND HE'S UNBELIEVABLY RIGHT. LARRY: YES, I AGREE WITH THAT. >> HE'S GOT TO BE PUSHING YOU -- PITCHING YOUR SHOW EVERY DAY. HE SHOULD BE ON. NOT TO BE A CAMERA HOG, BUT HE HAS SUBSTANCE. HE NEEDS TO BE PRESSED. THE MORE HE'S PRESSED, THE BETTER HE IS. VIVEK RAMASWAMY, OFF THE CHARTS BRIGHT, GREAT COMMUNICATOR, AND HE'S NOT ANTI-TRUMP. I LIKE WHAT HE DID, THIS IS WHAT I THINK I COULD DO BETTER, BUT I LIKE THE OTHER GUY. SMART, GREAT POLITICS. 37 YEARS OLD, HIS INSTINCTS ARE OFF THE CHARTS. THIS IS THE BEST POLITICAL TEAM TRUMP EVER HAD A BY FAR: LARRY: THAT'S A GREAT POINT. >> I AM GETTING TEXT MESSAGE WITH STRATEGY. LARRY: YES! >> THEY'RE NOT TO GOING THE ELECTION WAS FIXED, THEY'RE NOT SAYING THAT DeSANTIS IS A LIAR. THEY'RE JUST BOMB WITH, BOMB, BOMB, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND JOE BIDEN IS DONALD TRUMP'S BEST SALESPERSON. WHEN PEOPLE SAY DONALD TRUMP CAN'T WIN, I KEEP SAYING, OKAY, IT WAS 2020. WE NO LONGER HAVE AN IDEA OF JOE BIDEN, WE KNOW JOE BIDEN. AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR OWN JUDGMENTS. IT'S NOT A CAMPAIGN AD, A 30-SECOND SPOT, A 1-MINUTE IMAGE AD. THIS IS NOT GOING GOOD. 6% OF THE COUNTRY FEELS POSITIVE ABOUT HIS ECONOMY. LARRY: THAT'S A KILLER. >> THAT'S THE REALITY, AND HE'S SAYING I COULD DO WHAT I DID LAST TIME, ONLY I COULD DO IT BETTER WITHOUT THE RUSSIAN HOAX AND THE PANDEMIC. LARRY: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER FOR THIS SEGMENT. LET ME PLAY WHAT I THINK WAS A TURNING POINT FOR TRUMP IN THIS CAMPAIGN, THE CNN TOWN HALL DEBATE ARGUMENT. WE HAVE SOME TAPE ON THAT, LET'S ROLL IT. >> IF ELECTED PRESIDENT AGAIN, WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU WOULD DO TO HELP BRING DOWN THE COSTS TO MAKE THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE? >> DRILL, BABY, DRILL. [APPLAUSE] WE HAVE MORE LIQUID GOLD UNDER OUR FEET THAN ANY OTHER NATION, ANY OTHER NATION. AND THESE STUPID FOOLS ENDED IT. WE CREATED THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN HISTORY. A BIG PART OF THAT ECONOMY WAS I GOT YOU THE BIGGEST TAX CUTS IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY, BIGGER THAN THE REAGAN CUTS, BIGGER THAN ANY -- [APPLAUSE] AND ALSO, CAITLIN, ALSO AS YOU KNOW WE GOT THE BIGGEST REGULATION AND REGULATORY CUTS. WE -- THIS PLACE WAS ROCKING. LARRY: NOW, THIS PLACE WAS ROCKING. I'M ARGUING WE WILL LOOK BACK ON THAT AS A TURNING POINT BECAUSE HE PRESENTED HIMSELF AS AN ECONOMIC GROWTH AND PROSPERITY GUY, AS AN ISSUES GUY. THE WOMAN, ALL SHE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS -- >> JANUARY 6TH. LARRY: AND AND HE JUST GOT THROUGH THAT IN AN AMAZING WAY. MR. DeSANTIS IS A VERY SMART GUY AND A CONSERVATIVE, NO QUESTION. BUT HE HAS NOT PUT TOGETHER ANY OF THIS KIND OF ISSUES, PARTICULARLY ON THE ECONOMY WHICH AS YOU NOTED IS GOING TO BE BIDEN'S BIGGEST, WEAKEST SPOT. PUTTING ASIDE THE ELECTION SCANDALS AND BRIBERY, OKAY? THAT'S THE STORY HERE. AND I DON'T KNOW, I THINK EVEN GO BACK TO TRUMP'S BEDMINSTER SPEECH, OKAY? HE WAS ARRAIGNED IN MIAMI UNDER THESE CHARGES OVER THE DOCUMENTS, RIGHT? SO HE FLIES BACK TO BEDMINSTER, HIS HOME, AND GIVES THIS INCREDIBLE SPEECH WHERE HE TRIES TO REBUT THE CHARGES, OKAY? BUT IN THAT SPEECH, BRIAN KILMEADE, HE HAD A LOT -- >> IS HE DID. LARRY: -- OF ECONOMIC AND POLICY CONTENT. IT WAS SO BEAUTIFULLY CRAFTED. AND I THINK BETWEEN THE CNN THING AND THE BEDMINSTER SPEECH, IT JUST -- >> RIGHT. LARRY: I KNOW OTHERS WILL SAY TO ME THE REPUBLICANS ARE RALLYING AROUND HIM BECAUSE OF THE UNFAIRNESS OF THE JUDICIAL CHARGES. I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THIS ISSUE STUFF IS HAVING A MONUMENTAL IMPACT ON HIS NUMBERS WITH THE 40-POINT LEAD. >> WITHOUT THAT, HE'D BE AT 70%. WITH THE REPUBLICANS IN THE FIELD, BE HALF AS BIG. THE OTHER THING WAS CAITLIN COLLINS AND CNN THOUGHT, CAN'T BELIEVE HE GOT FAIR QUESTIONS. THEY WERE BLOWN AWAY BY THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS OF A CANDIDATE. THEY WANTED TO HEAR JANUARY 6TH, THE ELECTION. BY THE WAY, THE BIG ADVANTAGE FOR TRUMP, NORDSTROM 1 AND 2 ARE GONE, WE COULD BE THE NUMBER ONE SUPPLIER OF THE PIPELINE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH THE FRENCH ALPS, WE COULD BE THE NATURAL -- LARRY: OH, THAT IS SO TRUE. THE EYE BEER WITH JANUARY PENINSULA, THE NATURAL GAS -- >> IT'S NOT DIRTY AGAINST ENVIRONMENTAL. LARRY: I LOVE IT THAT YOU REMEMBER THAT. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY. WE COULD BE EUROPE'S HUB, MORE MONEY FOEVERYBODY, AND THEY COULD DEPEND ON US FOREVER, ASK WE'RE NOT GOING TO UP THE RATES EXORBITANTLY, WE JUST WANT A GOOD CUSTOMER AND GOOD ALLIES. DeSANTIS SHOULD GO TO THE OIL FIELDS IN A BLUE JEANS SHIRT AND SHOW UP AND MEET WITH THE
