GREENY: WELCOME BACK TO "GET UP" ON ESPN. WE'RE JOINED BY BRIAN FLORES, WHO WAS THE HEAD COACH OF THE MIAMI DOLPHINS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, RELEASED LAST MONTH, AND HAS FILED, AS OF YESTERDAY, A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE ABOUT ITS HIRING PRACTICES. ALSO HIS ATTORNEYS. THANK YOU FOR ALL FOR COMING. BRIAN, LET'S JUMP IN. WE HAVE 20 MINUTES HERE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO COVER A LOT OF GROUND. WE'RE DELIGHTED. YOU FILED THIS LAWSUIT, WHICH YOU ARE AWARE IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE ENORMOUS REPERCUSSIONS. WHAT WAS THE TIPPING POINT FOR YOU, THROUGH YOUR EXPERIENCES, THAT MADE YOU FEEL THIS WAS SOMETHING YOU NEEDED TO DO? BRIAN: I'VE BEEN ON SEVERAL INTERVIEWS OVER THE YEARS. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO FILE A LAWSUIT FOR THE WORLD TO KNOW THERE'S AN ISSUE FROM A HIRING AND FIRING PRACTICE IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. GREENY: THAT'S CORRECT. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE POINTED THIS OUT. WHY DID YOU FEEL YOU NEEDED TO DO THIS? BRIAN: BECAUSE WE NEED CHANGE. THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE REASON. I KNOW THERE'S SACRIFICE, THERE'S RISK TO THAT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE NEED CHANGE. WE NEED CHANGE. I KNOW MANY VERY CAPABLE BLACK COACHES, SOME ON MY STAFF, IF GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY WILL DO A GREAT JOB IN THEIR INTERVIEW. I WOULD HATE FOR THAT TO BE A WASTE. I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE PEOPLE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. THAT'S WHY WE FILED THE LAWSUIT. GREENY: WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE? WHO SPECIFICALLY DO YOU THINK NEEDS THE CHANGE? BRIAN: THE NFL. >> ALL OF WHOM ARE OBVIOUSLY WHITE. I'M A LAWYER OBVIOUSLY, BUT SOMETIMES YOU NEED LITIGATION TO CREATE CHANGE. THE ROONEY RULE DIDN'T WORK. WE NOW HAVE LESS BLACK HEAD COACHES THAN WHEN THE ROONEY RULE STARTED. YOU KNOW, BRIAN THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT IT. LITIGATION IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. HE STEPPED FORWARD. HE'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS THE ROSA PARKS OF THE NFL. IT'S A TESTAMENT TO HIS CHARACTER. THE LITIGATION WILL CREATE CHANGE, EITHER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO LITIGATE THE CASE TILL THE END OR THE NFL WILL DO THE RIGHT THING FACED WITH LITIGATION. GREENY: OKAY. LET'S GO THROUGH THE SPECIFICS HERE. WE DETAILED EARLIER A TEXT MESSAGE YOU HAD WITH BILL BELICHICK FOR WHOM YOU WORKED WITHGLANOM POINT, IN WHICH IT APPEARS HE WAS CONGRATULATING THE WRONG BRIAN, BRIAN DABOLL RATHER THAN BRIAN FLORES, FOR GETTING THE JOB IN BUFFALO. WE'VE ALL READ THAT -- EXCUSE MG THE JOB WITH THE GIANTS. WE'VE ALL READ IT. WHEN YOU FIRST REALIZED THE MISTAKE HE HAD MADE, WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST REACTION? BRIAN: DISBELIEF, HUMILIATION. THAT WAS A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW. AND I HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR BILL AND BRIAN DABOLL. BRIAN IS A GREAT COACH. HE'LL DO A GREAT JOB AS A HEAD COACH IN THIS LEAGUE. I WAS -- I WAS UPSET THAT I WASN'T GETTING A TRUE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHAT I CAN DO, TO SHOW WHAT I CAN BRING TO A TEAM, WHICH I FEEL IS A LOT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT AFTER A I'VN IN MY TIME AS A HEAD COACH. JOHN: THE JOB WAS PROMISED BEFORE COACH FLORES GOT AN OPPORTUNITY. THERE'S BACK ROOM DEALINGS AND INFORMATION THAT COACH BELICHICK KNOWS WHY. IS THAT BEING DISCUSSED IN IS A DECORATED COACH LIKE COACH FLORES, YOU KNOW, HUMILIATED INTO HAVING TO SIT THROUGH AN INTERVIEW AND DINNER WHEN A DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE? GREENY: THE GIANTS MADE IN THEIR STATEMENT THAT BRIAN FLORES WAS A CANDIDATE FOR THIS JOB UP TILL THE 11TH HOUR. >> THEY DON'T KNOW THE ALLEGATION THAT WE PUT FORTH, THAT THE JOB HAD ALREADY BEEN GIVEN TO BRIAN DABOLL. GREENY: SO, COACH, I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY WATCHING WHO WILL WONDER WHY DID YOU GO ON THE INTERVIEW AT ALL? IF YOU FELT IT WAS A SHAM, AS SUGGESTED IN THE LAWSUIT, WHY DID YOU GO? BRIAN: BECAUSE I FEEL INEVITABLY PEOPLE ARE GOOD, THEY'LL DO THE RIGHT THING, AND TO ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING, OR AT LEAST MAKE IT A FAIR SITUATION UNLESS I WENT THERE AND SHOWED THEM THAT I AM QUALIFIED, I AM A LEADER OF MEN, THAT I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT COACHING, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, AND I'M GIFTED TO COACH. I MEAN, THAT'S -- I AM. I KNOW THAT. I WANTED TO SHOW THEM THAT. I THINK THEY SAW THAT IN THE INTERVIEW. >> MIKE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OFTEN HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH RACIAL ISSUES IS PEOPLE FIND A SOFT HIDING PLACE, A SOFT PLACE TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, COACH FLORES DIDN'T GET THE JOB BECAUSE HE DIDN'T INTERVIEW. MAYBE HE TOOK HIMSELF OUT OF CONTENTION. AND, YOU KNOW, BRIAN, COACH FLORES, HAVING TO PUT HIS BEST FOOT FORWARD AND GO, YOU KNOW, HAT IN HAND, AND INTERVIEW KNOWING DEEP DOWN THIS JOB WAS PROMISED ELSEWHERE, ASIDE FROM BEING HUMILIATED, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BLACK CANDIDATES ARE OFTEN FORCED TO DO SO THAT AN IMAGE ISN'T PORTRAYED OR A STIGMA, OH, YOU DIDN'T GO, YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH, YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR PART. GREENY: UNDERSTOOD. >> THOSE TEXT MESSAGES CONFIRMED A LOT OF WHAT A LOT OF US, BLACK MINORITY COACHES ALREADY FEEL, THAT A LOT OF US GO INTO THESE AND THEY'RE SHAMS. THERE'S A BELIEF -- THAT WAS A MISTAKE BY BELICHICK. WE'VE ALL SENT THE WRONG TEXT MESSAGE TO SOMEBODY. IN THIS INSTANCE, IT CAME TO ME, AND IT WAS ALMOST CONFIRMATION THAT THOSE BACK ROOM DEALINGS ARE HAPPENING. GREENY: LET'S BE CLEAR ON WHY SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A SHAM. THERE'S THE ROONEY RULE IN THE NFL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE FANS HEAR ABOUT QUITE OFTEN, AND MAY NOT KNOW SPECIFICALLY, BUT I HEARD YOU DESCRIBE IT THIS MORNING IN A PREVIOUS INTERVIEWING AS CHECKING A BOX. SO THE EXISTENCE OF THE ROONEY RULE, IN WHICH EVERY TEAM MUST INTERVIEW AT LEAST TWO EXTERNAL CANDIDATES FOR AN OPEN HEAD COACHING POSITION, HOW DOES THAT RULE AFFECT A LAWSUIT LIKE THIS? >> THE EXPENSES OF THE ROONEY RULE ARE RIGHT -- INTENTIONS OF THE ROONEY RULE ARE RIGHT, TRYING TO GET MORE BLACK CANDIDATES, BUT WHEN THEY'RE INTERVIEWING A BLACK CANDIDATE, THEY'VE ALREADY MADE DECISION, PRIMA FACIA EVIDENCE OF DISCRIMINATION, THEY'VE CHOSEN A WHITE CANDIDATE BEFORE THEY'VE GIVEN A CANDIDATE THE OPPORTUNITY. NOT ONLY FOR COACHING POSITIONS. WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO SEE ARE MORE BLACK COACHES DOING OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR POSITIONS, DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR POSITIONS, SPECIAL TEAMS, QUARTERBACK. SO THAT WAY IT FLOWS INTO THE HEAD COACH POSITION. WE NEED -- OBVIOUSLY WE NEED MORE BLACK OWNERS. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ROONEY RULE, IT'S ULTIMATELY TIED TO AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE OWNERS AND THE UPPER MANAGEMENT ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND HIRE BASED ON MERIT AND NOT BASED ON SOMEONE WHO THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE THEM. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. WE'VE LISTED IN OUR COMPLAINT A LIST OF DEMANDS THAT WE WANT TO SEE, TYING HIRING PRACTICES TO PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW, HIRE A BLACK COACH, HIRE BLACK EXECUTIVES, OPEN UP THE PROCESS AND PROVIDE OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE OF WHAT WENT INTO YOUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS SO THESE DECISIONS AREN'T DONE WITH ALL WHITE OWNERS IN BACK ROOM DEALINGS, WITH PEOPLE WHO MAKE THEM FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE THEMSELVES. GREENY: A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY? >> TRANSPARENCY. GREENY: THAT'S ONE OF THE THREE SPECIFICS THAT YOU CITE HERE OF TEAMS. THAT'S THE NEW YORK GIANTS. LET'S GO TO THE JOB THAT YOU DID GET IN MIAMI. WHEN YOU WERE THE HEAD COACH, YOU ALLEGE IN THE LAWSUIT THAT THE OWNER STEPHEN ROSS APPROACHED YOU ABOUT TANKING GAMES TO GET A BETTER DRAFT CHOICE, AND SAID HE WOULD GIVE YOU $100,000 FOR EVERY GAME YOU LOST. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS ENORMOUS REPERCUSSIONS. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT? HOW SPECIFICALLY DID HE STATE THAT TO YOU? BRIAN: THAT WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT NOT DOING AS MUCH AS WE NEEDED TO DO TO WIN FOOTBALL GAMES. TAKE A FLIGHT. GO ON VACATION. I'LL GIVE YOU $100,000 PER LOSS. THOSE ARE JUST THE EXACT WORDS. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING -- LOOK, I DEAL IN TRUTH. I SAY THAT TO THE PLAYERS AS WELL. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THE TRUTH. IT'S GOING TO BE HONEST. IN THAT INSTANCE, LOOK, I CAME FROM -- THIS GAME HAS DONE A LOT FOR ME. A LOT FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND MY FAMILY. YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS ON OTHER SHOWS, BUT MY PARENTS ARE IMMIGRANTS. I'M FIRST GENERATION. I GREW UP IN A TOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IN BROOKLYN, BROWNSVILLE, WHERE THERE'S CRIME AND POVERTY, YOU KNOW, VIOLENCE. IT WAS HARD TO MAKE IT OUT OF THERE. THE GAME OF FOOTBALL IS THE REASON WHY -- OR A BIG REASON WHY, ALONG WITH A LOT OF THE GREAT PEOPLE, MENTORS I'VE HAD IN MY LIFE, WHY I WAS ABLE TO HAVE THE SUCCESS THAT I'VE HAD. SO TO DISRESPECT THE GAME THAT WAY WAS SOMETHING THAT -- YOU KNOW, TRUST WAS LOST. ULTIMATELY THAT WAS TO MY DEMISE. >> HIS STORY IS NOT UNIQUE, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE TWEETING OUT, COACHES, HIGH-LEVEL COACHES, WHO HAVE EVEN CONTACTED US, ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING IN A SIMILAR SITUATION. SOARTF WE'RE DOING, CREATING THIS CLASS ACTION, IS NOT JUST -- COACH FLORES HAS TAKEN THE LEAD, MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE. GREENY: YOU'RE SAYING COACHES ARE REACHING OUT, BEING IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS WITH REGARD TO HIRING OR WITH REGARD TO BEING INCENTIVIZED TO LOSE GAMES? >> BOTH, BOTH. GREENY: HE WAS SUGGESTING -- I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH -- YOU WERE WORKING TOO HARD, DOING TOO MUCH IN THE EFFORT TO WIN, HE WAS TRYING TO GET YOU TO DO LESS, AND SAID I'LL GIVE YOU $100,000 FOR EVERY GAME YOU LOSE? BRIAN: EXACTLY THAT. LOOK, THAT'S NOT IF MY D.N.A. THAT WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. GREENY: SO WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HIM? BRIAN: THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. I DIDN'T COME HERE -- LOOK, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO TRY TO WIN. THAT'S WHO I AM. I OWE THAT TO THE PLAYERS IN THE LOCKER ROOM, BUT ALSO THE SUPPORT STAFF THAT'S IN THE BUILDING WHO WORK EXTREMELY HARD. IF YOU'VE BEEN IN AN NFL BUILDING, EVERYONE IN THAT BUILDING, THEIR JOB IS IMPORTANT, AND EVERYONE WORKS HARD TO TRY TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE, MOVE IN THE SAME DIRECTION. I FELT LIKE WE WERE BUILDING THAT TYPE OF CULTURE. SO TO -- I WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO THEM, YOU KNOW. AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK IT WAS A REASON WHY I'M NO LONGER THERE. GREENY: OKAY. SO THAT'S THE DOLPHINS PIECE OF THIS. THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE INVOLVING THE DENVER BRONCOS, IN WHICH YOU ALLEGE -- THIS WAS BACK WHEN YOU WERE STILL COACHING IN NEW ENGLAND. BRIAN: YES. GREENY: INTERVIEWING FOR A HEAD COACHING JOB IN DENVER, ONE YOU SUBSEQUENTLY DID NOT GET, IN WHICH YOU STATE IN AN INTERVIEW YOU HAD WITH THEM, THAT JOHN ELWAY AND ANOTHER BRONCOS OFFICIAL SHOWED UP AN HOUR LATE, LOOKED DISHEVELED. IT WAS OBVIOUS TO YOU THEY HAD BEEN DRINKING HEAVILY THE NIGHT BEFORE THE INTERVIEW. YOU SAID IT BECAME CLEAR THEY WERE ONLY INTERVIEWING YOU TO FULFILL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ROONEY RULE. WHAT SPECIFICALLY CAN YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THAT INTERVIEW? BRIAN: SO I'VE HAD NINE INTERVIEWS WITH NFL CLUBS. ONLY BEEN ONE INTERVIEW THAT WAS LATE. IT WASN'T ME THAT WAS LATE. IT WAS THE INTERVIEWERS WHO WERE LATE. IT WAS THE BRONCOS. I THINK THERE WAS A REASON THEY WERE LATE. THEY HAD BEEN OUT THE NIGHT BEFORE. I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY. GREENY: WHAT MADE YOU BELIEVE THAT? I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT WHAT GAVE YOU THE IMPRESSION, IF YOU WILL, THAT THEY HAD BEEN OUT DRINKING THE NIGHT BEFORE? BRIAN: WHEN YOU SIT AT A TABLE WITH FIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERVIEWING YOU, YOU KNOW WHO'S ASKING QUESTIONS, WHO'S INTO THE INTERVIEW, AND WHO'S NOT NECESSARILY IN THE RIGHT STATE, I WOULD SAY, IN THAT MOMENT. BUT EVEN THEN, I PUT MY BEST FOOT FORWARD AND SHOWED WHY, YOU KNOW, I WAS A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THAT JOB. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY DID NOT FEEL LIKE I WAS TAKEN SERIOUSLY, AND THAT I WAS JUST THERE AS A ROONEY RULE. GREENY: VIC FANGIO WAS ULTIMATELY HIRED FOR THAT JOB, SUBSEQUENTLY FIRED A MONTH AGO. YOU'RE AWARE, OF COURSE, THAT THE BRONCOS RELEASED A STATEMENT, EMPHATICALLY DENYING THE ALLEGATIONS, GIVING SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT TIME THE INTERVIEW BEGAN, WHAT TIME IT ENDED, WHERE IT TOOK PLACE. THEY SAY THEY HAVE NOTES. WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THAT? BRIAN: I DEAL IN TRUTH. THAT'S MY REACTION. I DEAL IN TRUTH. HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IS IMPORTANT TO ME. AND HOPEFULLY WE -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DAY WHERE WE FIND OUT THE TRUTH ON THAT ONE. GREENY: ONCE AGAIN, TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S NO QUESTION IN YOUR MIND ABOUT YOUR RECOLLECTION OF THIS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY SAY. BRIAN: YEAH. GREENY: YOU'RE CURRENTLY A CANDIDATE FOR TWO VACANT HEAD COACHING POSITIONS IN THE NFL, IN NEW ORLEANS AND IN HOUSTON. HOW HAVE YOU HANDLED THOSE SITUATIONS WITH REGARD TO FILING THIS LAWSUIT? BRIAN: BEFORE WE FILED THE CLASS ACTION I SENT, YOU KNOW, MESSAGES TO BOTH TEAMS, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE FILING, BUT ALSO THAT I STILL WAS INTERESTED IN COACHING AND LEADING EITHER ONE OF THOSE TEAMS. LOOK, COACHING IS -- THAT'S WHAT I LOVE. IT'S A PASSION OF MINE. YOU KNOW, I'M CALLED AND GIFT TD TO DO IT. THE REASON WHY, I LOVE HELPING YOUNG PEOPLE REACH THEIR POTENTIAL, BECOME THE BEST VERSION OF THEMSELVES, ON AND OFF THE FIELD. I WOULD LOVE TO LEAD AN NFL TEAM. BUT WE NEED CHANGE, YOU KNOW. THE HIRING PRACTICES IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, I MEAN THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. I MEAN, THERE'S ONE BLACK HEAD COACH. THE LEAGUE IS FILLED WITH 70% OF BLACK PLAYERS. I KNOW THERE ARE CAPABLE COACHES IN THIS LEAGUE TO LEAD TEAMS. THE I HAVE SOME ON MY STAFF. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THEM I WOULD SAY, I KNOW WHAT KIND OF INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER AND LEADERSHIP THAT THEY HAVE. THEY DESERVE AN OPPORTUNITY, A REAL OPPORTUNITY, NOT A ROONEY RULE OPPORTUNITY WHERE A BOX IS CHECKED. LOOK, THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, I'VE BEEN IN THIS LEAGUE 18 YEARS, THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE IS AN EXAMPLE TO THE WORLD. IT REALLY IS. THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY -- PEOPLE FOLLOW THE LEAD OF THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. THEY JUST DO. THAT'S HOW POWERFUL THIS LEAGUE IS. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE, THERE REALLY IS. I SAID IT THIS MORNING, WE'RE AT A FORK IN THE ROAD HERE. THINGS ARE EITHER GOING TO STAY THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN OR WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION THAT WILL NOT ONLY HELP AND EVENING CHANGE AMONGST THE, YOU KNOW, BLACK MINORITY COACHES IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE BUT IT WON'T JUST BE THERE. GREENY: WHAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY? SPECIFICALLY, COACH, WHAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY? WHAT ISN'T HAPPENING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN IN YOUR MIND? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE COME AS A RESULT OF THIS SUIT THAT YOU'VE FILED? BRIAN: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HEARTS AND MINDS -- I SAY THAT HE, I WANT THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE PEOPLE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS TO CHANGE IN A WAY WHERE THERE'S MORE -- WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? THEY WANT TO OR HAVE A FEELING TO HIRE SOMEONE OF COLOR, THAT THEY CAN RELATE TO THAT PERSON, THAT THEY CAN BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PERSON, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE ISSUE. FAMILIARITY IS NOT THERE, AND WE NEED TO OPEN UP MORE. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. GREENY: A QUICK LEGAL QUESTION, IF I CAN HERE, BECAUSE THIS CAME UP EARLIER THIS MORNING. SHOULD HE BE HIRED FOR ONE OF THESE TWO JOBS, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT A LAWSUIT LIKE THIS? >> OUR LAWSUIT TALKS ABOUT TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT. IT TALKS ABOUT TERMINATIONS, COMPENSATION. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE ALSO INVOLVED. OF COURSE, HE GOT TURNED DOWN FROM ONE OF THE BIGGEST MARKETS IN THE NFL. THIS LAWSUIT IS NOT GOING AWAY. YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHARE, ALL OF US SHARE, THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY. THE NFL HAS THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY -- FORGET ABOUT THE DENIALS, LEGAL DENIALS, THINGSE THAT. THEY HAVE ANPPNITY TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT, TO MOVE FORWARD AND SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF AMERICA. >> YOU KNOW WHAT, AS MUCH AS THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE FOR, TO HELP CREATE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THE STATEMENT WHICH WAS HOPEFULLY A KNEE-JERK REACTION, THEY CAME OUT WITH A DENIAL WITHOUT MERIT. WE FILED A 60-MAGIC COMPLAINT O. THEY INVESTIGATED DEFLATED FOOTBALLS LONGER THAN THIS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW BLACK MINORITY CANDIDATES ARE HIRED, FIRED, DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, AND THEY WITHIN 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING IT IS WITHOUT MERIT. I MEAN, THE FACT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT IT'S A REAL INDICATION AND INDICTMENT OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON. WHAT WE KNOW THROUGH THE NUMBERS, JUST ALL OF OUR EXPERIENCES. GREENY: 90 SECONDS LEFT. DO YOU BELIEVE YOU WILL EVER COACH IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE AGAIN? BRIAN: I'M HOPEFUL THAT I WILL. I'M VERY HOPEFUL. I UNDERSTAND THE RISKS OF FILING A LAWSUIT LIKE THIS, BUT I AM HOPEFUL. IT'S SOMETHING I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT. BUT IF CHANGE COMES, IF I NEVER COACH AGAIN, THERE'S CHANGE, IT WILL BE WORTH IT. >> YOU KNOW, WE WERE IN THE GREENROOM BEFORE, AND I WAS OVERHEARING A CALL ACTUALLY WITH YOUR SON, AND HIS SON, WHO I THINK IS 9 YEARS OLD -- BRIAN: 8. >> -- 8 YEARS OLD, SAYING, DADDY, ARE YOU GOING TO GET A JOB? HATS OFF TO YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR THIS. GREENY: 30 SECONDS LEFT. ANYTHING ELSE LEFT FOR YOU TO SAY? BRIAN: LOOK, THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME. THIS IS BIGGER THAN FOOTBALL. THIS IS ABOUT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR QUALIFIED BLACK CANDIDATES, NOT JUST IN FOOTBALL, BUT EVERYWHERE, IN ALL INDUSTRIES. GREENY: COACH, I WISH YOU LUCK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING THE TIME TO COME DOWN
