BODY CAM: American Fork police find two of Ruby Franke's daughters during her arrest (reupload)

how's it going good I'm officer Hawkins sir I'm looking for Pam is Pam in today it's my wife is your wife she's here hi hello Pam how are you doing good I'm officer Hawkins American Fork Police Department hi so we had a uh agency assist out of St George in Springville that we're just looking for is okay when you picked her up what was the uh what was the case did somebody ask you to pick her up or did you just pick her up what was going on well I'm having guests coming and she came and did some cleaning for me some cleaning for you um you right now in the house in the living room right here okay great we're going to have both of you come out here then if you can just for a second we just going have to go over some stuff um you have a warrant yeah we do let me see it please so it's in my car but right now my concern is we were you just tell them you all right well we have to physically see her that doorway we'll go ahead and get the copy of the warrant for you okay you have a warrant from my house specifically for you yeah for you and the child yeah okay so what is going on as of right now I'll just need you to give your phone to your husband okay okay and as of this moment you're going to be detained right now okay okay okay so is there is there anything on you uh no okay perfect just put your hands in front of you okay just GNA place you temporarily under I'll explain to you I'll explain what are you guys doing I've explained this already I'm being as courteous as I can okay okay well I'm going to call an attorney that's fine I don't know what's yeah I don't even know what this is all about okay so I'm going to explain to you when we get to the car yes I just explained to you that you're being detained right now okay so what I'm going to do is I'm going to walk you to my car okay I need this officer to stay your husband and I'm going explain everything to you when we get there okay so are you familiar with any officers in Springville no okay are you do you have siblings or kids in St George well I have a married daughter okay what's her name Stacy okay do you know of any issues that they just went through today no do you yes I do so that's why I'm trying to figure out so we were we were requested by St George and Springfield police to make contact here the residents is here than to detain you currently until questions are answered okay what kind of questions so I'm going to call the main officers from Springville and that's where we're going to I'm going to tell him that I have you detained and you can question he can question you from now does that make sense so now you know pretty much as much as I do okay so I'm going to call him and we're just going to go from there okay so why why what do I have to do why am I why am I like this when I'm not haven't resisted or anything because I have to detain you momentarily until I figure out what charges they're going to go with that you so like I said we were requested by another agency to locate you and detain you temporarily under a warrant to figure out is she's right there which means you had her that make sense yeah she comes over to my house all the time I'm going off what you're saying I'm going off what they're saying I don't know what's the truth I know that she's here I don't know if she came willingly or not can't you ask her that's what we're about to do okay but as of right now that's why I separated you cuz I want the truth I don't want I don't want her being felt like she has to say stuff all that kind stuff so what I'm going to do is I'm going to put you in there we're going to drive back to the front so you can hang out right in front of your house okay okay all right watch your hand so just uh can you tie yourself or no or can you can you uh place your seat belt or no uh no no okay yes it does I don't know if it's Stacy per se but it's one of them so then it is her okay I just turned on your AC okay Public Safety how's it going this is Officer H for Police Department how you doing hi good how are you doing good so I just want to get some 5ws on this case I had so I made contact I have Pam in the back seat of my car detained and I in the house in the house yep okay we've got a unit that's going to be heading over let me find out who it is okay yeah did they tell you his phone over okay all right let me see if I can just transfer over to my officers out there okay appreciate it thank you we your name one more time this is Officer Hawkins PW KS [Applause] all right I'm going send you over to detective give me just one second thank you thank you hello what this is Officer Hawkins American forth Police Department detective m is that you said molford molford okay how's it how you doing good how are you good so I just want if you can just give me the lowdown of what's going on today cuz I I have the agency decide to same Pam she's in the back SE of my car and I in the house in front of me house mhm okay um give me one second okay yeah you pH mine sorry no no sorry I'm talking about DCFS okay we we have DCFS here they're on their way they're going to come pick right now okay so if you can detain Pam still for a minute and then there and DCFS will be there in just a minute okay can you at least give me a synopsis of what this is in regards to all right yeah so [Music] I'll just have you stand by your truck real quick for right now sir okay I'll come over there in a second you're coming to this house I just need to stand right there for a second I get you just give me two seconds okay what so what's what's going on are you there yeah I got someone that roll up to the driveway behind me so just told him to wait okay all right so what's going on is we got a call from dcss because St George PD um got a call about two kids that were found in State and uh tied up and um it's siblings and the suspects are the parents okay um but St George has Mom and Dad detained down there uh and they are doing some interviews right now to kind of figure out everything that's going on um the the there's two there one other sibling that we're still looking for uh that are are considered still in dangerous and DCFS has a war to take them both into custody and into State's custody um Pam was seen picking up the Springville rec center around 115 today and that's how we uh kind of figured that out and how you guys go out there so we're still kind of figuring everything out but that's the the basis of it is that these kids are there's a to take them into State custody they they a couple of them are found and malnourished and bound and lock in the safe so okay that's where we're at and then we're still looking for the other one okay but I think DCFS is on their way right now um let me you confirm the address that you're at right okay to make sure that they have that right address and they're already on their way so they should be their short okay to take is it just then there's not an arrest warrant for Pam no want be can you guys transport P to your PD we can send some detectives up there to go interview her um depending we have freaking uh couple calls coming out some disturbances so I mean it's possible um just depending on how long it would be or or I mean they're pretty Cooperative honestly so I don't think if they got back if I let him stay here at the home one DC Pi I don't think they'll do anything or leave if that Mak sense Prett Cooperative with yeah they've been pretty Cooperative more so confused okay um let me got my Serge right me he's talking to one of the other give me one sec e [Music] n okay I'm on my way up there right now okay so hold on rever second to keep an eye on the house um I'm okay thank you [Applause] okay okay so like I told you I've told you everything that I know right as soon as I find out I tell you kind of thing right pretty transparent okay so today your daughter in St George was hooked up with DCFS on a possible child abuse okay my daughter are you sure you have the right daughter Stacy crane someone from St George that's has as their child no that's not my daughter okay well those officers are on their way up here to talk to you okay and talk to her and DCFS is on their way as well okay I'm not here to argue the logistics I know I'm telling you what I yeah it those would be my granddaughters and those aren't my granddaughters those are my friends daughters okay so your friend's daughter's in yeah okay yeah is Ruby Frankie's daughter okay she's she's a friend of ours she comes over and helps me every once in a while to do cleaning and stuff okay so this is what happened okay her parents were in the situation of a child abuse allegation okay DC FS made the report and went to the house and found children malnourished and locked in a safe okay in the safe in a safe okay so now those officers and the DCFS have to cussy those children and we're looking for this one the rec center when they went to go find her said that you picked her up yeah so now they are trying to figure out why icked why you picked her up what you know with her is she okay is is she did she come here willingly all that kind of stuff okay as soon as they come here yeah we'll be on our way okay okay that's why I said you're just detained you are not placed under arrest just right now until they figure out what's going on with their park okay okay so as long as she's not tight up and bound because you I didn't make her scrub something I didn't make her scrub the floor and they vacuumed and stuff cuz I have company coming tonight out of from Costa Rica okay so but she did of her own free will we had lunch yeah we went to ry's farm and had ice cream okay so okay so you just want that's not my case DCFS and Springfield Police Department asked me to come here make contact with you is here detain you until they can ask questions okay okay any other questions for now till they get here at least no I yeah I was just scared because I thought it was my daughter that's not my daughter my daughter only has little little kids I mean they're not shouldn't have any kids that age sorry sorry over what was your question sorry ask it again oh my sergeant asked if everything was okay so that's it yeah any other questions I can ask you answer for you um no I just I don't I don't understand why having her come to my house who her yeah cuz they don't know whether it was voluntary or not I think it's the first problem and the second problem is since those those children are I don't know the full details of how mistreated or how malnourished children are okay all I know is that's the words and treatment that they used yeah which means that they are severely concerned of her wellbe and every child that's in that home okay so they'll just have to talk to her and and cuz there has been I've been a part of many DCFS cases where as soon as the parents are hooked up kids are taken if there's any kids that aren't in the home immediately when the kids are taken guess what they're scurrying around other family members are picking them up that way the parent can come back and grab them before DCFS takes oh yeah I'm telling you you may be a good person but there's a lot of people in this world that aren't right well if DCFS is supposed to take her then they can take her I mean I I'm not going to try to fight that I mean I you know well that's what they're going to come talk to you about they left already so they should be here in the next 10 15 minutes but Springville just left as I got off the phone with him so he's probably going to be DCFS or whatever it is is coming yeah so they DCFS will come for their part for and then the detective going to ask her if she came willingly to my house and everything okay and she has to be taken in state custody oh she does okay cuz I think her parents are arrested okay so um I'm just wondering uh why they don't want maybe they already no I have her she's in my house she's in here yeah I didn't get told when they here asking that what okay all right I'm going to go brief your husband so he's not worrying about you okay just give me a second this location okay so what I'm going to do is I'm going to walk you to my car okay I need this officer to stay your husband and I'm going explain everything to you when we get there okay big moncky at this location go ahead and step out here for me okay you can see her here I I understand that sir she can also have a seat in a chair okay where's your sister hey Greg are you home hey can you come over please need a little help here okay thanks bye what's your last name it's the most bizarre thing in the world put my wife in handcuffs good temp do you have any shoes with you why you asking that because she the juvenile not be staying at this location there's Springville police officers that are on their way up here okay um and there's a warrant for her to go in their custody so I was asking if she had shoes so that way she can put a pair of shoes on and doesn't have to walk in the gravel Siri call Ruby shoes with you it's just a simple question you don't have to look is it Grandpa you don't have to look at Grandpa to know whether not your shoes okay is that your mom's number is this y be [Music] she's got this is my wife in that car mhm was hand person yes sir she's being detained for investigation for springle officers s so is Springville or Springville officers coming here to talk to her is that why she's detained yes sir yes sir they have officers on their way [Laughter] we go up there probably your buddy you called is that your friend do you know that guy he's a window guy Parker window Greg I'll call you I'll call you you're supposed to get some window bids yeah he gave us one so he's probably just following up on oh gotcha do you take care of your garden and stuff or is that your wife it's beautiful well she does that I normally do the lawn but I had ankle surgery I saw that yeah uh so I'm just barely starting to walk I've been walking for a week and so I did that half she did this did this I did the back oh man you just had surgery a week ago no 7 weeks ago 7 weeks ago but you just started walking then okay that makes sense what's the reason for putting her in handcuffs for safety reasons uh if anyone is placed in one of our vehicles it's policy why did you have to put her in the vehicle uh because she's detained right now yeah she here on the front porch right sure I understand that but also at the same time we're unsure of all the details of the case this isn't our case it's an agency assist like officer Hawkins explained to you um so we don't have all of the details information in regards to detain her Conta detain her in that chair right sure but I'm I'm explaining something to you right we can't be having her speak to you speak on the phone uh until their investigation is complete I don't know where gra is he lives right down the street well I don't know maybe he was in the middle of separates 6:30 6:30 is early yeah I know you don't know her but if you knew her you'd be embarrassed this sir like I said I I really don't have any information all I know is that uh we were supposed to come here and assist Spring bille by detaining her and make sure that's all of the information that I have if I had any other information that I could give you I would okay have you guys lived in American Fork very long yeah you have been in this house for 21 years oh really so you like the area enough to stay that long right well good I me we've been here 35 years probably more between the other house a mile away and this house oh really where was your other house High School okay yeah so you didn't move too far at all then huh it's a pretty area though it's probably a lot busier now versus 21 years ago or 35 years ago oh I bet people people sure do cruise on it has it been any less traffic since uh the Pleasant Grove area of 2600 North has been closed down it's yeah no no you should probably go Greg I thought let see if there's an ta for [Music] you I'm not sure why he came I think it was to follow up on this B yeah I think he wants to put those windows in but another guy came and bid it too have you not decided which bid you want well he's way the the other companies way less know it's way way way more really yeah he's a friend of ours we used to live kind of by him oh okay and uh so he's done other windows for us well hopefully it works works out for you with getting your windows installed well is it more than one or yeah is it is that the officer talking to her in through that door or is that I don't recognize it is that your partner yep yep never had a police person in my driveway ever there in hand 5 j34 in service is there an ETA for the 4J officer that's in out to our location it's that Destin Florida your shirt is it did you go fishing while you were in Destin no just went to the museum yeah okay yeah I'm not a vegetarian so I don't fish I don't hunt I don't shoot I don't Tor thank you for your help have you been vegetarian your whole life no just for like 30 30 something years oh okay what was the change what made the change anatomy lab really in college or yeah High School okay even prerequisites for nursing okay did you get your RN or BSN yeah are you still working as a nurse retired retired good for you 25 years that's a long time to be in what kind of nursing were you in I did Critical Care intensive care coary care and then I worked in the elro physiology lab oh really and then uh I went to the VA and managed their Pac makers defibrillators all that stuff oh really wow that's pretty neat more of a specialized nursing than just your standard did you have to have extra training or certifications for that no you had it long way okay all right was it around here that you did intensive care and I did you tell Val oh really and then I did the electrophysiology lab there and then I did research with the doctor then I went to the VA how neat is that so you kept really busy at the valley yeah I bet did you want to go help them out stand by about 20 minutes for spring bill is it possible I could talk to you by my car little out of so we can just talk yeah she can go in and lock the door go in and lock the door if this officer goes with you her sure no no she can stay right here on the porch so you can see her see her uhhuh absolutely what are you afraid of sir I'm I'm I don't know what's going on so that's what I'm going to breef you on but I want telling you I'm answering your question okay I don't number one I don't know what's going on number two I don't want Springville to drive up and you guys whisk her away and take her away without giving any information or anything okay and so uh number three her mom isn't here right now and I feel like I'm kind of trying to protect her from getting into a bad situation that's understandable that's me that's understandable and I don't even know her that well so I'm I'm going to answer all three of those questions Pam knows her because she knows her mom she's very good friends with her has known her for a long long time okay I I already brief Pam she's understanding cool and Collective and understands what we're doing I would like to brief you the same way however I would like to do it privately if that's all right is that what Pam says we got to do no I mean why do I need to be griefed you don't have to be told anything if you don't want to I'm doing it as a kind gesture to inform you of why everyone's here and why your wife is detained what would you like I'm going to ask you a favor I'll go do that I want her to sit in this this chair in plain view and if Springville pulls up then I want to I want to be able to uh you know I'm I'm not going to get crazy I don't have any weapons I don't have anything and I just had surgery on this angle I just feel a certain responsibility to her and to her mom to to protect her the best that I can obviously I'm freaking out gun right and I have a a lame ankle so what am I going to do nothing and I have no intent to hurt you I don't I don't want them pulling in here and dragging her away while she's all frightened and screaming so here's the deal we've already informed you there's a warrant picked up okay so either way she'll be going with the spring B officers okay just sit right here in the chair that's all we can do you know just sit there in the chair you can rock if you want okay all right and we can just be right here so you can watch her okay there's no surprises I just want to inform probably go a little further she can probably here I'm trying to appease you so her parents today were under invation for a child abuse TR DCFS went to the home with Springfield Police Department and found children in the basement out nourished and locked in the safe today today yeah what children out DCFS tried finding all the kids that were involved and one of them was you don't know where she's at okay calls the Rec Center rec center says that and picked her up unknown if she went will the or forc I'm not saying Pam forced her I already told her that so we don't know but what DCFS wants to do is they have a warrant to pick her up and take her into State custody because her parents were arrested now her parents were arrested yes so that's my my mom was on her way to St George mhm that was the whole thing happened in St George came up to Springville Springville got involved and it's traced all its way back to us somehow I don't know how you guys are involved you and Pam Pam's her friend Ruby's friend her husband Uh Kevin or somebody I've met him a couple times I don't even know uh so Pam since her mom was on the way to this on top since since her mom was on the way to St George then Pam said I'll pick up the girls and I need some help and so she said Ruby said they can come over and help and so they've been helping clean we have guest coming from post Rica tonight that's what and you know they just helped clean they clean floors they cleaned all kinds of stuff I don't I don't even know and so that's the reason we're involved with this right now just because Pam went over and Ruby knew that she was coming over get and she got the so I told Pam as much as I knew from Spring how much as I knew from St George that was what I was informed to do come here locate Pam inside the residence to rain and hold on to Pam until spring down DCFS get I don't exactly know what detectives want with you guys but theas want to talk to pmfs wants to pick up I know you guys are probably good people but there's a lot of people out there that aren't they just want to make sure the kids are okay well they want to take her right if you guys can work with DCFS and say if DCFS is okay with her staying with you guys and that's between you and DCFS I have no quarrel that they don't know us they don't know anything about us you don't know anything about us I know I know I haven't had a problem with you guys the biggest thing that bugs me like I I hate you know kids get involved and they pay the price and everything who knows what in the world's going on but the biggest thing that bugs me is my wife is sitting in a control car hand yeah that's the thing that gets me I mean I yeah I feel bad for girl and everything but my wife you know she's sitting there and and this is the first time in the world that I've ever had a police guard sitting in my driveway I got all the neighbors driving by it's like oh my goodness they don't know drives up and him to go back and I tell him I thought he had left and then I he said do you need me and I Greg go just go I'll no I thought you called in here no okay he I saw that he texted me and said hey if you need me out like get out of here just get out he doesn't need to be involved in this stuff what was he here for Windows he's he gave us a bit on Windows that's it and so he's coming to check back on Windows he's a so he just gave us a bit on window that's right he said just a weird freak thing well as soon as Springer gets here and say that they don't want anything to do with Pam should be released that's why I said she's not under arrest she's just detained right now because that was what they asked for like I told her do you have any questions that I can answer cuz I would love to answer them that way nobody's surprised is this Georgian or No this must be our guys all right just hang out right here give me a second okay I don't know I'm thinking it's I think so how old are you do you need medical attention at all okay is there a reason you're so scared right now it's it's us okay well I'm sorry if you've had a negative interaction with law enforcement in the past okay my intention is not to scare you are you okay or is there something that I can do to make you not feel as scared right now do you live in American Fork are you a lifeguard that's for do you go to school or would you rather not talk Tex that's know I sit down my ankle sure absolutely that chair I don't see a problem with that are Shuffle around that's what I was saying before you're welcome to have a seat if you'd like I bet after did you just mow the lawn today I just L backday I bet it's pretty tender then yeah did they do reconstructive surgery or they did a tendon repair here oh really and then I had to scrape some dead bone out the front of this and ouch do a bone graph for my heel and from the they got cartilage from the cadav and all this stuff all sorts of new pie P es and sounds like painful process yeah so they these uh Springville officers they need to talk to ja and then I don't really know what's wrong here I don't have any idea did you guys talk to Pam already all right sir so I have a question for you Pam already told me that house can we ask for her to come outside as well thank you to go with him my back backwards you can sit there can I sit here sure so what do we wait for now we came up to verify they were here and at this point we're waiting for a phone call to to let us know what we need to do at this point did you guys get to talk to Pam we have no idea what's going on that's I just told him we were just told to come up here and see if they were here that's all we're here for okay is Pam here she's sitting in that handcuffs in that car tell these before a trip so there more people coming or you're just waiting for a call there are Springville officers on their way is the information that we have okay wa man crazy they probably will be here in 10 to 15 minutes I can just see more and more guys showing and girls well that's what's going to happen I already told you that I know I mean more than a couple right oh I I don't know how many officers I would assume very me this like what happens when there's like some big drug bust or something you know I do have you know I've done a lot of background you can run a background on me you know not too concerned I had to do that for the VA several times been drug tested been everything yeah well they have to do their proper investigation okay maybe not necessarily into you but for whatever their uh case is about okay is that the only way to detain someone is to put them in handcuffs in the police car no sir I already explained it to you okay you explained what the reason why she's in the back of a car right now okay do you want me to re explain it to you well I was just asking you if I was asking you not the only way to another way well it's another way to detain someone so if I were to tell you you're being detained right now you'd be detained right there does that make sense why can't she because she cannot be talking to anyone else she cannot be on her phone her policy she has to be pH I understand that okay I've already explained it to you there's officers on their way who are going to talk to her like I said we all have limited information we're assisting officers I do not know the background of the case but obviously it's serious enough for her to be detained okay and for the children to be present all right if I have had it more information i' I'd give it to you but I don't all that's he hello they've got so e that well those to ear police officers right and they were just checking to make sure that these girls were here and that they're okay us were them so they're part of a bigger organization than than we are they're Major Crimes from Utah County so they're a little bit higher on the is they got called here in case we needed assistance I don't think you're going to need assistance right I think we can handle it right no they're just checking is your backyard fairly steep or is it flat look said Hills it Hill 34 AC oh okay well I just saw that I mean the the east side of your is a pretty good drop off there yeah over there yeah I was just wondering if your backyard was hilly as well it's got It's got some hills yeah probably be fun for like a slip and slide yeah would it be good for a slip slide oh yeah I bet that would be way fun oh very good what moment second you guys want to drinking water that's very kind of you we're okay got it in the fridge well thank you I've got water in my vehicle thank you though do you girls need water no okay do you just play City volleyball or do you play for school do you play Club at all no how long have you been playing volleyball you like it yeah what position do you usually play no you guys kind of rotate you Rove is that what you call it Rove around that's cool that's awesome I played volleyball back in the day too super fun and you play is that right okay sweet is your season over or you just getting started is it how do you guys do yeah good do they do it by age bracket with it skill level or bracket okay what's your what was your age bracket okay very good are there girls that like play on your same level then like skill level wise that's awesome it's hard sometimes when you get stuck in an age bracket some people don't live up too you're like yeah we had some of those too do you guys play cities just how does that work playing for City leagues okay do you guys do any sort of like um I don't know what they call it like competitions where you play other cities too no you just play each other that's fun sweet what's your favorite position to play you just like to play it's awesome well you're so tall I definitely didn't yeah you're super tall he walked out and I was like wow it makes sense you play volleyball are you going to try to play like no not for the school teams just a hobby just for fun don't get as long as it stay fun when they not doing it because you feel like it's your chore right do you go you're not in public school do you do home school yeah do you D rade your own hair yeah me too I was lazy to though I just have it in a pony toil grade did you teach yourself or did someone teach you half and half that's awesome can you braid other people's hair too oh very good feel like sometimes a lot of people they can either braid them on themselves or braid other people's hair but they can't do both so that's really cool yep I'll have to go with you and he can stand by too if he doesn't want me in this house without yep but I have to go with you too she just needs to grab her shoes where where are your shoes at in the house they're in the back of the house okay like in the kitchen back by the door there or he can grab them you want to grab them if you can get up on that sore ankle dang it yeah you should just go with okay if you try to run we will chase you are you both going in is that what you're asking did you want to grab your shoes or no you want him to wait okay Le you guys don't have lights flashing be worse necessary what was that at least you guys don't have lights flashing that' be even worse never had try to be Incognito never had a police car in my driveway ever I have one every morning yeah but your neighbors know who you are and they know what you're up to and you just need a van inspection need what you could find the van you just need the VIN inspection that was it we find the like for your for which C we'll look at that one for you make sure it's good and then that's what you can tell everybody yeah you want you I can throw him down on the front lawn and cuffy and make it look like he was running through the neighborhood from somebody him I'm not going to cuff him no thanks I couldn't cuff anyone right now this ankle what' you do to it head surgery I couldn't even cuff my grandkids I worked at the prison a long time ago oh you de what did you do hungry there that's a c sa oh really how was that I only did it for 8 years then I went to n oh okay were you in laundry the whole time I was in the mail room at first and then they put me in laundry and then just left me there and I ran it wasn't it wasn't a good place no I wouldn't want to be stuck inside all the all the time all day long okay we got someone coming up can't tell it's great it blocked you guys though it's fine it's all right I I can Ram myself out that's why they got the truck they don't have one those giant buffers on there it's all bulletproof and it's it's pretty heavy get through there okay so is this springf yeah yes girls I have no clue what's going on and I don't know what's going to happen so just the worst thing we can do is try to fight it so you got to just go with it whatever and then sort it out I don't know how that's going to happen so we'll see this up so we have no clue really what's even going on I don't know how long have they been here an hour I don't how long has it been oh I don't know don't look at me how long been here oh here at the house yeah how long have you guys had custody I think it was around cuz I m the back L I got time I think about was it about two did you guys get here two two I don't know if I I have anything on here that you tell me I was out there for 3 and 1/2 hours it took me H his ankle to M the backyard 3 and 1/2 hours and yesterday I did that side my wife did that side but you don't move very fast with that yeah I bet 3 and a half hours I think I started I don't know what time it was it's probably about 2 or 3 time isn't matter how will we 7 720 I think it was about 3 I don't know I didn't pay attention I don't pay attention to the time now that I'm retired I don't really I'll say that in about 15 to 20 years I started my retirement in state re well on September 1st couple days just me I have can afford a lawyer or can Beed to represent you for in question you start answering questions now without having Council presid and they stop answering questions at any time so should I make sure I have an attorney I don't I don't even know what I'm in trouble for I so it's not so much that you're in trouble we're just trying to get answers about the uh Frankie family so excuse me but the officer said that you they just had to make sure that the girls came on their own free will and that they were healthy and they were okay which they did they came to clean my house before we we get any further I want to make sure do you understand those rights that I explained to you yeah I understand you understand them are you okay and answering some questions for me I don't know if I am or not can I talk to my husband um I've never had this ever happen before at this point you're not as far as we know you're not in any trouble at this point we're trying to figure out what's going on how the girls got here all that kind of stuff so that's mostly what we want to talk to you about at this point so you're not going you're not going to jail hope not for having this complan so if you want to have an attorney president that's totally your choice that's your right um but we can't tell you yes know whether you need that right that's only some I can't talk to my husband and ask him I mean I just have never done this before I have no idea I I'm just like shaking I don't know what's going on I just I had them come over and do some you know I've had never had handcuffs on my life put on me right A lot of times and I don't even understand why I did everything he asked me to do and safy thing it's just sometime cuz here's the thing right he doesn't he doesn't know you right he's never interacted with you we've had people that have gone completely from like a normal level to all of a sudden going crazy and assaulting and things like that so it's more of a get it's and it's not to get you in trouble it's not to scare you it's just keep things calm especially when he was here by himself right if if you're here at the house and someone else came out water just um are you okay to just answer some questions so when you came to the door you asked brought her right out he didn't even know was there and I said hey what about I don't know I all we care about I said well in the house right at this point like I told you your rep these are the ones that you need to talk to cuz I'm not the one that's investing your Cas so let me let me give you a little bit backstory of how this all hand go happen is that okay with you okay so we got a call from St George Police Department because there are siblings of uh were found down there in a pretty distraught condition um that information came to us we went to Springville the address they have in Springville no one's there uh and so then we kind of do follow up we find out that uh Y and then someone said that you had came and picked her up M So based on the conditions that we uh the other kids were found you can yeah Mak sense concern about them right and we don't know you right we don't know what your involvement is with them we don't know any of that and so and DCFS hasn't want to take these girls into custody not into State custody yeah I don't know everything that's happening but we'll do whatever you want to do I mean I just am curious um is there a reason that you went and picked her up today yeah what was the reason you got her today she's going to come clean up my house going to come clean cuz that something that regularly happens yeah she comes and cleans or she comes and cans she comes and does weeds and stuff and I have company coming tonight from um um to we that's e oh I was say so one of my neighbors that would be embarrassing yeah so so um so my friend called me and she said hey I have a family emergency I'm going to St George um how's it going here just for situational awareness though trying she walks up to the to Whisperers something in the ear so if you are going to talk to him talk to him s CU I think she might be coaching her how are they like wise I haven't talked to yet' good girls have been Melancholy over there just sitting on the porch having said the word to us they whisper stuff to each other but yeah older sister was saying that they might be rough um yeah I was think was going to run but she changed her mind I think I don't know she had that somewhere in the house like hiding I don't know they didn't tell me it sounds like when they when they got here um they asked she's like she's in the living room now and then they kept talking a little bit she's like why AR you look so I don't you're obviously friend and they come to my house all the time well not all the time but I mean they live in Springville I I go down there and like I taught them how to make jelly or their house I don't know but they have m d That's like right um they're not being cooperated they're not they never um but like [Music] noon okay so she conted around and then you went and picked up both of them were they both in Springville or that Ace but what Ace was that um I don't know maybe they have this I don't know it's some somewhere like South Spanish Fork yeah I mean no not Spanish Fork it's past it's past Spanish Fork squin we went to the ry's barn right after I picked her up okay it's probably Santaquin yeah almost AI type area yeah yeah okay uh she was at the ace and did you call both the girls and say hey your mom told me to come get you no okay how did you get how did you contact them to know where they were at I just went to the the pool and said hey they have a family emergency can I pick up sht so I just said family emergency your mom said you can come help me clean today she said okay okay and what how did you get pick her up um Ruby just told me she'd be at the a hard work oh okay so Ruby told you we're both okay okay so they've been here all day we went to we we went to ry's farm and got ry's red barn and got ice cream at the red barn and then we came here and we scrubbed the floors and vacuumed and made lunch had BLTs and we were going to go pick tomatoes and make salsa tonight okay so that's kind of what we were doing tonight so just to make sure I'm understanding all this quickly Ruby contacted you around noon and said that they had around I don't know if that's short that's your best guess said she had a family emergency and need you to think of the girls yeah she said would you mind watching the girls while I'm gone cuz she was leaving I said yeah I could do that cuz I need some help cleaning okay and then did you say to bring them to your house for today and then take it back home tonight or to keep him here for a couple days she didn't say I was just planning on bringing him home tonight okay then she also told and uh the kit BS right there pick them up and did you pick up first thenm and then you went okay okay and they've been here the besides going to that Rolly's Red Bar they've been here the whole time okay and you guys been cleaning yeah go smell my house it smells great yeah we had lunch we we were we just finished cleaning and I said okay what do you guys want to do now I said we got to go pick the tomatoes once it gets cooled and then we'll learn they wanted to learn how to make salsa so I said okay we can do that I said let's just take a break for a minute and that's when pounding on the door we opened the door right up he said ask with me I came right out and then you as come out here and and then like I said I told him you know what and he said well I'm not I don't we're not concerned I said well okay well I she's in the house and then I don't know what you did you went to the house and asked for him her yeah that was cuz information was slowly getting trickled with him I don't think he knew about the initial cados just said located so that's that's what happened that's and I've been we've been at home cleaning this whole time and dusting and okay just and then they we were going to pick tomatoes and make salsa and then take them home okay so this is uh pam pam watch she got a call from Ruby morning you around no I around I don't know exactly she asked Ruby asked her to pick up the girls um gave them the locations of where they both would be at and just said hey we have family emergency down door watch the girls and she said okay so she went down and got them they came back here and they've been cleaning I just have house guests coming tonight so I said yeah that'd be great can they come clean she said yeah theyd love to do that so yeah so and then we went to ry's Red Farm got ice cream on the way cuz they had never been there before I said right you haven't been to ry's Red Barn have you guys been to ry's Red Barn yeah so we were there and got ice creams and they bought some things and then we came straight here where did you L what where did you Pi pick them up from the um Springville swimming pool you guys went down to S after no that use hardw where in s in did she work there or what was she doing there I don't know I just she just said Ruby gave Herby just said she'll be at she'll be so we picked up was the ry's Red Barn said let's stop here came home I said okay you guys can you clean the downstairs and I'll start vacuuming upstairs and work for like I don't know a couple hours and then oh no we had lunch first we had lunch first and then we did the cleaning and then we were sitting down we just finished cleaning we just sitting down when we got the knock on the door and I came right out and got you know just did whatever you told me to do they were Cooperative yeah you any questions for um I really think of well have you ever have you ever had anything like this happen before where you picked up the girls oh like like hey we need you to watch the girls um no everything else has been so like like they wanted to learn how to make jam and so they had a whole bunch of strawberries and raspberries so I went down there things like that but you know so I have interacted with them and we've done stuff that's it's usually to make jam or learn how to sew or or do something or like someone has a play or something we go to see it or something but not you know they have come to my house before and done house with weeding and stuff like that okay how did you start to know the family how you me the Frankie family yeah through a a program called connections it's a kind of a life skills yeah type of thing oh okay so tell me more about like when you first met them through the program or not really know what what the program is she's just she was just she was a coach she was a okay what type of things do they do with the program um it's like life skills life skills like um learning how to you know it's like be honest responsible and humble those are those three colors of their of their program um is there like a meeting place for youm or is it kind of a virtual pH it's online every Saturday morning it's called empowering Joy okay how long have you no for oh jeez is probably oh GE I don't know let's see I mean I didn't know her really well cuz she was in the program but I didn't really know her but I've known her probably really well maybe 3 years is this like a program that she started or is it just one that she she's just a part of it she's just part of it okay other questions okay we appreciate you cooperating with us information and like like they explained before the whole handcuffs and everything is just CU we don't know really what's going on we don't know who you are and well we appreciate your cooperating with these guys and didn't I know you were just trying to do your job but you know have these girls come to clean my house and pretty soon I'm in the back of car with my you know and it's like oh my gosh understandable did you get her information by hers I have her names file but we can get more B here and it's spelled b o d t c h e are okay and does anyone else live in the my husband what's his Roy Watcher so we're emptying NS but my I have a lot of kids coming I have seven kids so a lot of kids coming oh grandkids and stuff too or yeah yeah that's F great been talking with you sorry about scaring you well well I'm not the scared I know to do your job but it's just like not in my spectrum of so I don't even watch scary police shows or anything because I'm such a pansy so okay well we're going to go talk to the girls now and let them know do they know that they're telling with us no cuz he had me come right out and I hav so I told her and I told her husband the kids themselves have not been told but I'm pretty sure they're away I'll tell them just do they bring anything with do they have any no do they have phones with them um or Electronics of any kind I don't know they might be in their backpacks oh they have backpacks there one backpack that has just look a little wallet but doesn't have a phone I know that oh all right it's okay I yeah you ready to go back up yep thank you want me to tell uh they have bags to pack or something we're going to you want to go get stuff because that's the K plac we found you guys can't go home yet so I'm with ecfs and right now you and your siblings are in state custody and Sh of so you can stay with family and some you know s right [Music] now we understand that obviously it's not an ideal situation for you but at this point it's either with a cherry or like you said a fost home rers because there's a lot going on that's what we're trying to figure out remember what I said deal with the best scenario probably so Rachel I can just call and see how they're doing for you yeah can and then I'll Che make sure everything good up there we're have one person in the front and one in the back so I don't know who want [Applause] have you put your I can put your bag in the trunk you put your bag in the trunk thank you you have your IDE Ang okay make sure many [Applause] of just get aw she's your she's [Applause] your [Music] [Applause] bro yeah uh take a photo just in case he didn't tag yet I don't my name first lastz these will P agencies sometimes pull case number so appreciate you yeah apprciate you guys need thank you appr thank you good sir we go didn't know you would have to ask permission I thought it was the other way hold oh that makes so much more sense now really yep yeah he took a lot of heat got K but Ma sent him legal mail and I opened it up and there was D floss said he said no it's just Dent floss I saids so [Music] iisc he didn't really do anything Selby who else Andrews I Bishop guy sick guy AR Bishop how long are you there 8 years 8 years fig you know do something more positive my life so I started thinking that's I had a lot of friends out there did you ever know Bob Grace used on the K9 yeah you KN yeah that dog hit his leg that time man he had bad surgery after that yeah he Liv right down oh did he yeah I was on our team up there for a little bit you were so what was that his name was like little or he's a big guy I think his name was maybe tiny I can't remember his name anyway he he ran the show Bob went to AP quit the prison retired I'd imagine I'm going to be 65 yeah most of the guys I started up there with are either retired or starting to retire I got go out and talk well let's make sure that's that unless your brother is a female no oh okay yeah I don't know who that is oh she's probably SC my brother kind of Pops off I didn't think he drove that car he's got Jeeps his two yeah I got two brothers they do the same thing can't he's an older brother too six years old now I'm in a position where he can beat me up again because of the C I got rid of that a long time ago he used to beat us all Boys in he got through a point where didn't I was the baby you were yeah old brothers you do anything do anything that slap you around no it was coddle that did you know a guy named coddle coddle or yeah he's a big guy yeah he was a what the ship Commander he was a captain or something yeah hey did you work with the little scrawny guy over there in Max named uh Shirley Joe Shirley he called him GI joee was he as good as a GI a little you remember fiker who biker that's who my sergeant was when I was in there once everything moved over there I I kind of lost touch cuz you know the laundry was right there by the Culinary M and uh you know I I'd go pick up laundry but we never saw him they just leave it out for us lost touch you know who is they're trying to cook more one M too what we trying to code for on we're 14 but we said negative you're not think he's on a traffic stop pioner and I will get even for you making fun of us

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