Bloodlust and Mass Wyrms? SIGN ME UP! - Bronze League Heroes Episode 19

[Music] yo guys we got a low silver or high bronze game between lunatic and rotar I bet they wedged themselves over 1,000 MMR out of hopes that I wouldn't be casting them but they cannot Escape my notice so easily they're just over my threshold but for today I'm making an exception so in so far as bronze League Heroes goes uh we should be seeing a significant over performance here compared to our usual cast they were pretty fast at making their alter ratar has gone for an alter into zigarette opening this is a slow Crypt opening that rushes out a hero that goes Crypt with the fifth acolyte then you make a sixth acolyte which makes a shop in front of your necropolis and your death knight runs out into the map with a rod of necromancy that's what that opening is supposed to do and now you know what it's supposed to do you'll see what actually happens right now no six acolyte is coming forth just yet so he's probably just going to be relying on a normal acolyte from his gold mine to make the reason that altar into zigurat into Crypt is a less popular opening is because you get your extra ghouls quite slow but you get your hero out the fastest and because your hero comes out fast he has the ability to do the potentially most effective harassment and that's why when your alter finishes you should immediately start your so that you can start harassing cuz if you are going to go cripp Lord which is what ratar is actually doing then you want more units because cryp Lord is a creeping hero cryp Lord more like creep Lord am I right High Five Guys uh so it's going to be a cripp lord then with uh two acolytes doing what wait no no no no no no oh oh this is a graveyard oh okay all right so it's cripp Lord into but that but this tomb of relics is way too slow yeah this is total sandboxing it's a complete creation of his own imagination that's cool gby how old are you why do I feel like you're asking that because of my horrible Pond that physically hurt meanwhile Luna has gone for a blade Master opening with a barracks and a warl and the second burrow and a shop and a grunt and then he's going to maybe make Head Hunters maybe it's grunted to Head Hunters ratar is doing some Lord creeping with ghouls blade Master shows up he's going to find it that's one ghoul kill bam he's going to attack the second ghl there's no death coil and there's Beetle so that's going to be a second GH death I think he doesn't need to wind walk to kill this this and he doesn't double ghoul that's that's huge beetles Sur he wind walks quite unnecessarily as a harass hero against a person that is creeping you need to be very conservative with your Mana usage the more you wind walk the less Nuance you have in harassing and disrupting you don't need to deal much damage fast he just used all of his Mana to kill a single acolyte but now ratar is going to be able to deal with the threat more easily would have been better when the beetle surround happened to back off just remain just linger stay near because the moment you leave for Mana because you used to much Mana now the crippler can creep and this is essentially unjustified creeping this is what you should have prevented that acolyte skill that kill on the acolyte not worth the 150 Mana this cripp Lord should never have had the right to creep he did not have the right in fact and now the blade goes home because he figures I want to help my grunt creeping I need Mana anyway but if you lead back the cause and effect the reason you even feel like going home is a good thing to do is cuz you don't have Mana anymore but he probably thinks I've done some economy damage I've killed an acolyte and he's not wrong lunatic did kill an acolyte and that is a good thing to do but he could have done more just through creeping prevention among blades and cryp cryp Lord is more creeping dependent than the blades all the good early Game Heroes like farer and blad uh that do a really good harassed they're less creeping dependent than creeping Heroes like Lords or Mountain King so you would be happy to both be level one generally nonetheless the blade still loves creeping he does get a lot of power with that I knew it God they really love unit upgrades they really really love unit upgrades I just knew it man so that means that if bronze players were to watch like high level players they would have a question in their mind like how come they never get unit upgrades because it's always good it makes your unit stronger Etc and in their experience you've always got money lying around anyway so that makes the upgrade Nob brainer because you cannot possibly spend all your money fast enough right cuz they're constantly dealing with banks of 500 to 1,000 gold so it's literally free real estate usually different for pros so ritar has got four ghouls he's going for an expansion oh okay cool he pulled an acolyte from the from the main base cuz I was like hey I don't remember him creating a sixth acolyte but it's just a cheeky little tier one and a half expansion a couldn't quite wait till tier two has got that started earlier does cost them a bit of gold but it's an investment do they not buy items from the shop yeah they buy items from the shop but they always have extra money lying around because they have more waiting periods where the hero stands and does nothing uh they'll forget to make units during battle or maybe they don't know what they want to make next so they delay the choice procrastination before you know it one 2,000 gold Bank though this is 1,000 MMR not 800 and there's quite a big difference actually I think a 1,000 MMR player would beat an 800 MMR player 19 out of 20 times from what I've seen if there's no like MMR abuse going on we've got the five acolytes coming cripp Lord is level three three and a half got some gloves of haste ring of protection plus five that item in particular is quite good the Ring of protection is it often better just to have more units than upgrades uh upgrades give 12% damage or effective Health to a unit about 12 and a half% so 12 and a 12% uh unit amount increase is like going from 10 to 12 units right roughly and so if you have like uh something like five units another unit will generally do much more than an upgrade but if you have like seven plus units getting an upgrade is um potentially able to better serve your needs than another unit but more than that units generally are just better than upgrades because they also occupy space on the battlefield until you get to like larger numbers yeah and a reason to get upgrades is because you want to stay under 50 population for a while but you still want to get stronger and the even more important than all the power levels I just talked about if upgrades become a reason that you get something really crucial too slowly then they were a bad thing to get so for instance if you got armor upgrade but you now delayed your tier two Tech which then delays Your Shadow and your beasty and your totem and for some reason this guy also has a lodge he's got one of all if he delays any of that then the armor upgrade wasn't worth it no matter what value it gave you first you want to be the fastest possible to get your second hero to get your key units that have key abilities like in snare or heal Etc then if you have money left over then you can start making a decision between unit production and upgrades so I think oh love it Mass Towers love it all right this guy this guy Turtles up I feel pretty good about ratar and I think right the way that ratar is playing even though the there were some weird things about his opener just the fact that he ninja sneaks in an expansion heavily fortifies the expansion I think these are really good habits at low level they're not habits that will serve you well while climbing to Grand Master or whatever because this works less well at high level but I absolutely think you should play to the level that you play at and going for a hero likee cripp Lord instead of the more finicky and vulnerable death knight or Lich just power you know strong heavily armored summons and then doing things like ninja Expo with a lot of towers I think that's far more effective and the orcish equivalent of cripp Lord and expand and lots of towers would be farer TC with chain lightning shock wave and then lots of grunt Raiders and expansion with a bunch of towers and then just getting like uh Raider Head Hunter codo no casters I I think most lowlevel players do not use orcish casters very well at all just grunts Raiders head hunter codo wyvern you can make a mixture of that Army you can also just do like six GRS two Raiders a Coto and then 10 Berserkers that kind of Army and if you're going to add any Caster make sure it has AutoCast so Shaman with blood lust yeah more than half of the lowlevel players uses formation Exel they don't know it's bad to use and I mean it's probably not going to kill their gameplay and it even has benefits for them yeah so Berserker Taran bloodlust is a great allaround Army one Cotto Berserker Taran bloodlust that's what I would recommend for a lowlevel Army in the late game so you start with grunts then you add Raider codo and then you switch to uh Berserkers and torren if you go for that Army you can deal with anything which will compensate for your weakness at [Music] scouting I started playing Wyn blood lust and I love it yeah it's such a Pepa Strat but it's so effective just got one One upgrades pillage I believe is ready he has a spirit Walker but didn't link yet there we go nice spirit link these GRS need to be ordered to attack another Tower there we go no no no no no you just you almost had it you almost had it all that effort for nothing he was literally almost breaking through and then he's like this is boring a shaman as well but is he going to use it it perge okay disen chant disen chant there we go that's about the value I expected to get from the shaman he is tier three though and he's going to get blood blust the Walkers are so weak straight up and he's not microing them into ethereal form a you can get extra DPS by wind walking your blade and attacking yeah he just lost everything so orc is very very reliant on Shadow 3 to get effective and efficient healing he used all of his Mana at level two lost all of his units right before blood lust finished so people have asked me before what is a timing attack and what is the opposite of a timing attack well this is it right before bloodlust finishes to sacrifice all of your units in a fight first on towers and then units yeah Boneyard we got 3,000 gold on ratar he's spending half of it well not half he's spending a bit of it on boneyards yeah I like a lot how rur played this you see how effective it is imagine if he decided to do like the pros do one necropolis and one nerubian he would have lost nerubian and all his acolytes but because he has this opponent doesn't really Scout sees it short circuits attacks it realizes he can't get through takes the follow up fight very good and now you just turtle and you go for frost worms he could probably do with some more ghouls they don't have frenzy so they don't travel as fast four goals on two base with double Boneyard it's hard to support that kind of lumber this Camp is a little hard for you not impossible and he's only got two units area three on the granite blood lust will help though I don't think there's an item that would save him here that would actually help him win this game I think the frost storms are going to be too much and it's interesting to me that he detected an expansion but does not counter expand nor does he build the tempo of his army to deal with it like it's not going to be a oh okay he did but this is a Six B distance Expo wow ratar immediately went for it maybe he had a beetle Scout and I didn't see it instant cancel so if you are tier three you should only ever expand with tiny great hole instead of slow that way it'll pay off earlier it's also making a torren which as far as what he has seen torran actually makes sense now nice Target Fire by r AR definitely better at micro than lunatic I feel like ratar overall is a much more complete player right expanding correct strategy a little off meta Heroes bit quirky uses his spells more Target firing it's good fight by ratar they have the same MMR but it doesn't look the same oh that was a good info Bruce Lee Rob says hey guys how come I can't queue a match on Warcraft 3 Champions there is a Warcraft 3 Champions Discord where they may be a specialist in this it works for most of us so we wouldn't know what your problem is grubby for starter when I have zero experience in PvP playing on dead what should I do I would recommend to try and make your own build order or to copy one for build orders are essentially how to use this power drill before using a power drill of course you can just start drilling click buttons see which parts spin which parts to put in wire but generally if you're going to use a power drill for the first time you've got a manual it's going to tell you how to use it that's basically what a build order is of course first you've got how do I actually control the game box select how do I box select hold down left and then drag your mouse then press contrl one now it's in group one press one to refer to it that's like the ultra basic engine understanding of Warcraft a build order means making your buildings in the correct order and you may of course Wonder H why why do I have to build things in the correct order can't you just get a bit of everything and it is true you can but let's say one guy makes his altar at the start of the game and then makes a hero and you happen to make it after 4 minutes because you're just sandboxing you see all these buildings you see a Watermill you think oh War Mill extra Lumber that seems good let's get some upgrades then let's do an alter you'll find that the guy that made his alter first has a hero and he can start creeping and now he's got a level three hero and you're level one so I'm not saying you have to follow the meta there is variations but I am saying there's a difference in efficiency for build order so what you see at this 1,000 MMR bronze level this lunatic the way he started the game he did alter burrow Barracks but when his Barracks finished he had n gold and the cheapest unit you can make is 135 so his Barracks finished but he doesn't have gold so that's not a good build order it's like mathematics right there's a certain order to things when a good player makes his Barracks when it finishes he has exactly 200 gold to make one grunt when a good player's tier two building finish the the stronghold he will immediately make B Siri and when B Siri finish he will make a unit that's what I'm talking about so you can practice that against the computer as an undead or as anything ratar did a great job here lots of frost arms I love it Shadow Hunter just getting impaled and coiled and dies DK getting focused we see a little bit of hero Focus from lunatic getting some good damage on the DK but there's the slow from the frost worm and the impale on a blind blindly on an invisible blade he might still kill the DK though he still kills the death knight my God what a Chad against five Frost worms and a grip Lord but now he's going to die impel Target firing boom level six grip Lord Mana Locus swarm let's go ah leave already GG well played by ritar a nice game

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Length: 18min 57sec (1137 seconds)

Published: Tue Jun 18 2024