Black Lives Matter, Racism A Conservative Perspective (Pt. 2)| Larry Elder | POLITICS | Rubin Report

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I want to get this right so I want to look at my notes for this according to this you are black that is correct not african-american that's not a term I like you how come you don't like the term I'm ridiculous I was born and raised in America I've never been to Africa why am I an African American most of my people have been here longer than most of all the other people in this room yet most people don't have a - you know I'm an italian-american Greek American Romanian American it's an absurd term it's a term that Jesse Jackson is almost single-handedly crammed down the throats of our media and after Jackson began to talk about why blacks should have some connection to Africa all of a sudden New York Times LA Times all of the media began using that expression oculis yeah I mean I personally don't use the term African American that much because one time I had a guest on the show and I referred to her as African American she said well I'm actually Jamaican so you know you mean so I guess that that goes to your point and I remember reading one time Dave somebody was given a description of some suspect who had done some crime was running away and he was described as an African American how do you know where he was from Goodman from Africa coming from Jamaica from Canada so what do you make of that when someone like cuz I know you really rail against Jesse Jackson and these guys on the left that use and I want to talk a lot about identity politics okay so the guys that use these phrases what what are they going for there well they're whatare goal that the goal is to tell black people that were victims that discrimination and racism remain major problems in America when in fact they don't and they want black people to vote for the Democratic Party the Democratic Party gets ninety five percent of the black vote and the reason they get it is because blacks are convinced that the number one issue facing the country right now is social justice racist white cops discrimination systemic racism microaggression whatever a new word they come up with and it's a bunch of nonsense a number one problem domestically faced in this country is a breakdown of the family and President Obama said it I didn't a black kid or kid not just a black kid a kid raised without a dad is five times more likely to be poor and commit crimes nine times more likely to drop out of school and 20 times more like it end up in jail so you're far more likely to end up in jail without helping a dad than you are because of a white racist cop right so but you wouldn't not acknowledge that there are some systemic issues give me an example tell me what you think the most endemic racist issue is what is it well I would say that because black people in most cases in many cases were descendants of slaves that racism as a as an institution that is just 2000 a certain amount of it just exists I 2050 give me the most blatant racist example you can come up with right now I think you could probably find evidence that in general cops are that cops are more willing to shoot if the perpetrator is black what's your date of end white what's your basis for saying that last year though look I know a lot of people would say look what's going on I know what they would say talking about what the facts are 965 people were shot by cops last last year and killed 4% of them were white cops shooting unarmed blacks in in Chicago in 2011 21 people were shot and killed by cops in 2015 there were seven in Chicago which is a third black a third white and third Hispanic 70% of the homicides are black on black about 40 per month almost 500 in the per year last year in Chicago and 75% of them are unsolved where is the black lives matter on that the idea that a racist white cop and shooting unarmed black people is apparel to black people is BS it's complete and total BS and and the reason for these so-called activists saying this is the assumption that racism remains a major problem in America the media CNN especially MSNBC runs down whenever a black cop shoots somebody and and it's some some march on Washington it's ridiculous black people half the homicides in this country are committed by and against black people last year there were 14,000 homicides not talking about suicides are talking about homicides half of them were black 96% of them black on black of that 7,000 wears a black black lives matter people on that so that there's where you would say that this is purely because of social justice this you're purely because they want ultimately for people to be angry enough to just keep voting Democrat that's right and where's where's the evidence of the lack of social justise when a black suspect is killed by a cop believe me the media is on it people are watching it and and justice will will for the most part occur in Baltimore where Freddie gray was killed Freddie gray died in a van I shouldn't say was killed died in a van yeah you have a city that's 45% black city council is 100% Democrat the majority of City Council is black the top cop at the time was was black the number-two cop with blacks the majority of the command staff is black the the mayor is black the AG is black and yet here we are talking about racism I mean it's it's absurd yeah third so it's funny I find myself caught in-between this a little bit as a liberal where I want to always try to defend the other so in this case the other being black people I'm always sympathetic to that and they yeah yeah at the same time I hear you laying out a pretty solid well just the facts I say something else too there was just a study University of Washington and it turns out cops were more reluctant more hesitant to pull the trigger against the black black suspect than a white suspect probably because of the fear of being accused of racially profiling and the fear that the civil rights established was going to come down on him so if anything whites are more likely to be shot by a cop under certain circumstances than a than a black person and in last 30 or 40 years the number of percentage of suspects killed by cops who are black has declined 75% however the percentage of whites killed by cops has flatlined yeah and so if anything people are more concerned about shooting black people for fear that they're gonna be called racist and almost all every one of these incidents whether it's Eric Gardner in in New York who died because he was selling loosies and resisted arrest whether it's Tamir rice in Cleveland who it was twirling around the gun whether it's Michael Brown in Ferguson who had just committed an strong-arm robbery almost every one of these incidents involves somebody resisting arrest why don't you just do what the police tell you my dad said when I get pulled over have my hand at 10 o'clock have my hand at 2 o'clock say yes sir say no sir make sure my paperwork is in order and if I feel the cop is mistreating me get a badge number and deal with it later on if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and Obama and the whole group of them told black people to do that we'd have a lot fewer of these things to deal with in the first place yeah all right so I'm with ya I'm hearing a lot of what you're saying in here so as a black conservative then who now you've you've laid out your case there but you haven't laid out yours I asked you to name the most important example of racism and you gave white cops going after black people and I and I told you gave you the facts for that so that's nonsense so what you must have something else what else is it if you think racism remains a problem in America give it to well I think it remains a problem not it every time it may not be systemic in that we have it's not like you're not being hired because you're black there's no systemic reason you no legal reason that that exists that kind of thing but I think that racism as a general I need theory I need I need some specifics you gave me the white cop thing what else give me another example what you think is a problem well well as a black conservative tell me how to know you how do you get people to come around you're the one who made the assertion that yeah racism remains a major problem in America I asked you to give me an example you gave me white cops going after blacks I as far as I'm concerned you didn't hold it up very well what's the other argument you have what's the other thing well I don't know that it's systemic in that in the sort of macro I'm not I don't know what it is you're talking no no I'm not getting into school BS that we have a race we have affirmative action so a black person with a with an SAT and a GPA of X will get into a school faster and easier than the right person with an SAT or a GPA of X and if going to going to school is a route to the middle class you can make an argument that blacks have an easier route the middle to the middle class if you're talking about blacks about poverty the poorer you are the more accessible loans and grants are for you the the problem the biggest burden that black people have in my opinion again is the percentage of blacks 75% of them that are raised without fathers and that has every other social negative consequences connected to it crime not being able to compete economically in the country being more likely to be arrested that's the number one problem facing the black community and when I hear people tell me about systemic racism or unconscious racism I always say give me an example and almost nobody can do it so so the family stuff I'll follow your logic there I mean family stuff what what can actually be done about that then I mean what because that's a big reverse to welfare state in 1890 1900 you look at census reports a black kid believe it or not was slightly more likely to be born to a nuclear intact family than a white kid even during slavery a black kid was more likely to be born under a roof with his biological mother and biological father than today what's happened is we launched this so-called war on poverty in the 60s we're literally Lyndon Johnson sent people walk knocking on doors and I lived in the 60s and people knocked on doors uprising women of their availability to welfare provided there was no man in the house and we went from 25% of blacks being born outside of wedlock in 65 to 75% right now and you look at how much money that we spent on welfare and the lines are parallel it was a neutron bomb dropped on this country not just in the black community but on people in general at one time only about 5% of whites were born outside of wedlock now 25% of whites are born outside of wedlock I was in college in 1970 and there was a report called the Moynihan report the Negro family a case for national actions written by a liberal by a man who became a Democratic senator for the from New York and at the time 25% of black kids were born outside of wedlock he said my god this number is is horrific if we don't do something about it it could get even higher well fast forward 25% a white kids are now born outside of wedlock it is the number one problem in this country and what we've done in my opinion is we economically incentivize women to marry the government we've allowed men to abandon their financial and more responsibility and now we have this Saudi using the left has done this right ok so do you think then that as a black conservative that the biggest issue is it's impossible to have this conversation right like the stuff we're talking about right now is rarely really discussed in the media you know people you've written some books about it and people talk about it every now and again but we rarely have this discussion because and this is where I will agree with you that the left has made language such a problem and everyone's so trigger warranted safe space that were afraid that if you have this conversation that somehow I'm going to come racist you know you know that's not well we don't have the conversation we don't have the conversation because the left would then have to look in the mirror and go jesus H Christ look look at what I've done and they don't want to do this I've had a radio show for almost 25 years I've invited Jesse Jackson on 50 times 60 times I've invited our sharpen on that that number Maxine Waters another loudmouth black woman around here who's running around talking about racism she won't come on my show either they don't want to deal with these issues why let's have a conversation if I'm wrong tell me I'm wrong tell me how I'm wrong give me your data give me your facts tell me what you got yeah and I could quote the the Brookings Institution which is a liberal think tank and the Heritage Foundation which the conservative think tank and they'll both tell you that there's a relationship between crime and bad schools and going to prison and not having a dad so this is not just a liberal kind of thing or a conservative kind of thing it's a real world kind of thing and they don't want to have that conversation I've never heard a reporter asked Obama about the connection between the rise of the of the single-parent household and the rise of welfare spending I've never heard anybody asking that question not one time yeah and so as far as I'm concerned is this is this desire not to have this conversation for fear that it then will cause you to rethink your assumptions a psychologist will call that cognitive dissonance the this this anxiety that you feel when you have had your assumptions challenged and you don't want to do it it's uncomfortable yeah so how then would someone like you or someone that believes in what the things that you're talking about how do you wrestle away a little bit of the narrative from the black lives matter folks because obviously I tell the truth they're about the same thing course I do I care I tell the truth I talk about the number one cause of preventable death for young white man is car accidents the number one cause of preventable death for young black men is homicide committed by other young black men I tell the truth I give the facts and the facts are racist yes take facts are racist right so you know I'm friends with another black conservative David Webb you probably know on Sirius XM and he's a Fox News contributor and I had been doing a progressive show a while back and I was on with someone and they didn't know him personally nor knew that I was friends with him right and they kept saying he's the token black eye on Fah right now I'm sure you get plenty oh my goodness token boot licker Uncle Tom Sambo Sambo Tom coconut as in brown on the outside right on the inside Oreo same concept the Antichrist and you got because they've got to malign somebody like me I am a bigger threat to their whole ideology than almost anybody else a black guy who does not believe that he's a victim a black guy who believes in hard work and personal responsibility a black guy who doesn't believe in handouts a black guy doesn't believe in the welfare state a black guy he doesn't believe in affirmative action I am the antithesis of everything they stand for and therefore I can't just be dealt with with facts and and rebut it with facts I've got to be maligned I've got to be a castaway I've got to be treated as as if I'm Darth Vader that's what the left does so that's interesting and again this is where I've really struggled with my guys on the left because in a way that is actually showing it's racist of course it is three right because I don't have the same right to have an opinion of somebody else I've never heard rush limbaugh be called anti white because he criticizes Hillary on the left but I criticize black left people and I'm and I'm anti black it's bigotry it's racism calling somebody an Uncle Tom is as offensive as calling somebody an n-word lover yeah so when it comes to to the black community and politics so I got you on a bunch of a bunch of this stuff the black media in a lot of ways isn't for some of the things that the Democratic Party is for right because the black community a lot of times and it has a lot to do with the church is it's more socially conservative the only thing that that connects black people to the Democratic Party in my opinion is this notion of social justice and this notion that racism remains a major problem in America look down the list of things that black people like ins and support blacks are more pro-life than whites are blacks were more anti gay marriage then the whites were that's one of the reasons it's proposition passed here in California is because of the way blacks and browns voted again I didn't vote that way but it's the way a lot of blacks and browns did Black's want to be wealthy when the reason Donald Trump is getting about 25% of black which is five times by the way the the percentage that Mitt Romney got is because of Donald Trump's swagger and his and his being proud that he's made money and so and and in the inner city wait that's really fascinating little piece right there one more quick important the Democratic Party is completely beholden to the teachers union and vice versa the Union is adamantly opposed to vouchers where the money follows the kid rather than the other way around inner-city black women and fathers inner-city black brown women and brown fathers want vouchers they realize the schools suck I went to Crenshaw High School in South Central right now three percent that's not a typo three percent of kids can do math at grade level I'm gonna send my kid to that school because I don't have enough money to send my kid to a better school it's it's it's an assault there's a program called the DC hope scholarship program where every year parents who subscribe to them to the program and and it's four times as many people want to get in as there are seats will give kids about ten to twelve thousand dollars to go to a non DC government school and every two years when it's over Obama the Democrats kind of try to shut it down and the reason they don't is a bunch of black parents go to the streets have a press conference start crying and so all my kids doing better I can't think of anything more damaging to a kid's future is to send him to a school where it's a Crip School where the kids are are not learning where a lot of them are not learning because they don't care and where the whole level is now dumbed down to cater to that lowest common denominator in a class and as a result you have kids that have poorer SAT scores and the otherwise would if they had a chance to go somewhere else that challenged them and so inner-city parents want vouchers young black people when they're told about the benefits of privatizing Social Security want to do it because 65 years old blacks die sooner than whites do and when you die all your contributions to Social Security go poof as opposed to being able to will it too child when blacks are taught about this young blacks want the opportunity to put their money into a account that they can control so when they get 65 years old they have real money so privatizing Social Security vouchers abortion same-sex marriage all of these issues blacks are really not in lockstep with a Democratic Party but the Democratic Party has successfully convinced blacks that racism this white cop this is why it's spread demands out to get you and vote for us and we'll deal with it so how much of this is a messaging problem if I grant you all of that right how much of this is just a messaging problem by the Republicans because it seems to me and I've said this several times but someone like Tim Scott who is a black Republican senator right from the south right he should be a hero not only of the black community but he should really be a hero of the left right because this is a successful well I should be an American Hero he really should be I mean he should some certainly alley at the very least be bigger in the national debate why isn't he a bigger surrogate for whoever he's gonna support I assume it will be a Republican why is this guy lost in in this scheme well it's the same reason that black states vote 95% for the Democratic Party he's considered to be an Uncle Tom he's a Republican he's a black Republican he said he's a he's some sort of unicorn I don't know what he is that that's how that's how they feel so then what do you do what do you do as a Republican to break this narrative you know I got it you told the truth I got it you tell the truth but obviously there has to be something bigger than messaging here because well you're telling me the numbers 90 95 it's an uphill fight I mean to me there is a access of indoctrination you have the media you have academia and you have Hollywood all of which tell black people that they're victims most professors are to the left the media certainly is off to the left and Hollywood's to the left and so you get up and and you're indoctrinated all the time with things like social justice inequality the man's out to get you we need a higher minimum wage you name the left-wing a policy and and and you and you pick it up through osmosis that's why when we first started the conversation I said I hope to move you towards the center and you say I hope to move you towards towards the towards the center and I said it's not going to happen because because I'm I there's nothing you can tell me I haven't heard but I probably can say some things your audience hasn't heard because LA Times New York Times CNN ABC NBC CBS New York Times you name it these are all to the left whatever left-wing position you're gonna hear it you're gonna hear why how and where but but the other position you won't hear unless you watch Fox News or listen to talk radio and a lot of people won't do it if you make them if you pay them right so I hope it's clear in our 40 minutes or so together so far when I say I'm on the left I consider myself a classic liberal and that I stand for liberal principles John afterward male-type liberal exactly exactly that's not a liberal and and I know in a lot of ways that that makes you a concern you're a Jack Kennedy kind of kind of Democrat he cut taxes right he was a cold warrior he will he liked hunting he liked the Second Amendment so doesn't this show you how stupid the words are so what I did at the top of the show shows you how the Democratic Party has evolved to the left and abandoned principles my mom was a was a Democrat my mom was a Republican my dad was Republican all his life and my mom stopped voting for the Democratic Party and she said as many people have said I didn't leave the Democratic Party they left me she didn't like welfare she didn't like the idea of rewarding people just because you had a kid and then giving you more money when had an additional kid she didn't like any of all of that right and she started voting for george w bush her last two election cycles so it's really ironic that's not messaging it's the fact that the country and the country in general has gone to the left and the Democrats to the to a greater degree the Republicans have gone to the left the country has changed in part in my opinion because of immigration including illegal immigration people who are coming to the country illegally from third-world countries like Mexico they don't know what I'm talking about when I talk about limited government they believe health care is a right they're taught that in Mexico they're taught that other places and they come here in America and they pull that lever for the Democratic Party which is why in my opinion the left wants what borders to be porous because it changes the country page of the electorate it changes the demographics the Democratic Party has not won the white vote since 1964 the more white people there are in the country the worst Democrats do the more left-wing the more people of color there are in the country the best the left does and so what incentive is there for them to to suborders what incentive is there for them to shut down sanctuary cities to stop catch and release there isn't in my opinion there's been a very subtle and very diabolical changing of the mentality of this country by left-wing people so that a state like California could never vote for Ronald Reagan as they did in the past could never vote for Richard Nixon as he did in the past you have New York and California just write them off and there's 10 or 12 states now that we fight over everything else is now written off it's ridiculous

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Lol this guy is nothing more than a symbolic talking head for the conservatives. If it's a black guy denying systemic racism then it must be bullshit!

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