Bitter Much?

this is the plff Alicia maay she says she and the defendant used to date and he owes her $5,000 for trips she paid for to Las Vegas and New York he also owes her for rent car insurance and child support and she's here suing him for every penny of the money he's trying to get out of paying her but won't this is the defendant Joshua Howell he says he owes this woman nothing she paid for the trips when they were together now that he broke things off she's coming after him for everything she can think of Under the Sun well he's sorry she's bitter but she needs to move on and leave him alone he's a cous of leaving a woman high and dry all parties the right here you see it come to L against H War y thank you Douglas okay Alicia maette you're suing Joshua how for $5,000 in Damages uh for different loans and things that you paid for for him that you want re you want him to reimburse you for as you claim he was always supposed to correct yes ma'am what happened um Joshua um was not working at the time so I had to uh help him at the time um while we were dating well you didn't have to you could have just dumped him but yeah um so you two started dating when um back in December of 2016 2016 and were you living together yes all right um so who was living in that place we were living together with me just the two of you are just the two of us and my son and your son how old is your son he's 21 months okay all right 21 months so is that his no okay um when you met were you pregnant yes okay so um what Bill did you pay for him um I paid his car insurance his car notes I helped to pay his child support um and why were you doing all that he lost his job before we moved into the house only income that he had was from the VA cuz he's prior military that okay what's going on how did you lose your income well um initially I got laid off from an company they were letting go of close to 50% of their employees um I had my VA disability which is about 2,000 what's the nature of the disability uh seizures okay um did she ever tell you that that you had to pay this stuff back no ma'am what happened between you two um well so you don't deny that she paid these things you just say that was part of the arrangement between you and you weren't supposed to pay it back she never paid anything oh you you do deny that she paid these things right okay um so how did what how did you two break up well um it got to the point to where I wasn't agreeing with the way that she was bringing up her child and how so because she was trying to keep him away from his actual father okay and I did not agree with that because I was going through the same situation with my son according to you why did you two break up we broke up because he was cheating lying and deceiving um I went through physical mental and um how you find kind abuse um well for one of the women that he uh cheated on me with stayed in our housing community and then what she told you um well her husband came down and said that Joshua better stay away from um their house because they she he found messages of them talking and things of that nature okay so now you're are you both on the lease yes and what ends up happening with that Arrangement when you two decide to break up what was the plan about who was going stay and who was going to go before um we broke up we had resigned a lease I was unaware um that we were splitting or anything like that um it it was how long before you broke up or caught him cheating did you sign a lease 3 weeks after she cat you cheating three weeks after you guys resign a lease how about not signing a lease that would be a good idea none of that actually ever happened did you cheat on her no ma'am did some guy in the neighborhood think you were cheating well the thing is is me and his wife grew up together and we were really close we were best friends actually and I would continue talking to her and he was the jealous type and got why are there all these texts between you and her where she's talking about how you hurt her I have no clue what she's talking about you're the one who hurt me you don't know how much you hurt me what what has she hurt about because the thing is is I told her that I had feelings for this girl still but I wasn't doing anything inappropriate with this person she was mind he sned in his in his mind so now when you two uh break up what's the plan on who's going to live in the apartment cuz you have a lease going I had this um we actually had a prior deal um about that I was supposed to get the house and that she was going to get an apartment and since her credit was well below average that I was going to put my name on her apartment for about 5 to six months that way that she can accumulate her credit up and that way she'll have a place to stay for her and her son okay um I was told shortly after whenever I talked to the landlord that I was going to keep the house he told me he said that she was W to keep the house so did you talk to her I did talk to her and we agreed on it but so she changed what the agreement was you're saying right and you agreed to let her change the agreement right okay and so was there that agreement and then you changed your mind um yes okay so you decide to stay in the house and it's how many bedrooms in that house is three okay and you one of the things you're suing for is you want him to pay rent from the time you guys broke up until today four grand right because you decide to stay in a three Bing place instead of mitigating your damages and going to a smaller place I would have never signed resigned the lease if we were splitting and that but he was going to take over the lease so you wouldn't have had to worry about paying rent at that place at all and he was going to put his name on another apartment for you that would be smaller and within your grasp and instead you decided you wanted to stay in the three-bedroom house yes right all right so so now let's talk about all these other things the the according to you you paid for a Vegas trip when was the Vegas trip in April and you guys broke up when we broke up um in August okay and uh you paid $1,200 for a trip to New York when did you take the New York trip we did not take the new Tri New York trip I just lost out on money for that I actually have text messages stating I kept texting him asking him are we still going um you know I used money to book this um it was a bundle package deal n refundable um and he said that we were going to go and then that's when we he decided that we were splitting um and I just was left with the bill of that he told me on a contract that we signed between the two of us that we were he was going you any taex where he tells you that he's going to pay you um I have text messages where I ask him he don't he doesn't respond okay you don't have any text where he says he's going to pay no besides the contract now there's well right according to you there's a promisory note where he says he's going to pay you show me the promisory note thank you mhm what according to you does this tell me that he agreed to do what each column has a list of things that we agreed on and how we were going to separate there it does say um in one of the columns that he was going to pay me back for the trip gas and food passport deposit for house must pay all of the above to Alicia 113 2018 okay I do have a picture of where we had the p passports let me see the picture I bought both of them he wanted to take a trip to uh Ireland um spring break of next year so I went ahead and paid to exp expedite it to get it as soon as possible you're taking an awful lot of trips for a guy who's unemployed what's that about okay tell me about this that is actually a forged document is it yes ma'am it is you I have a no ma'am I did not she Forge my signature I have the original pictures of the document that are actually time stamp for August 22nd not August 12th so how would I get a signature on August 12th what are the documents what is the document you took a picture of it's a picture of the original document before things were changed okay so the original document has you doing what it's actually none of that really that's on there oh you're right and so what was this document supposed to be that was actually for whenever she was talking about she was wanting to move to an apartment and I agreed because as you see at the bottom where it's been erased that it says that I will put my name on her apartment for 5 to 6 months and then I will take it off and it was erased and put on that I agreed to the above signed date August 12th 2018 why did you erase stuff on this document and why does he have a picture of this document with nobody signing it yes so we were sitting down and we redid it because of the simple fact that I was keeping house and we talked about how we were going to split everything it looks like a forgery when he's got a copy that has none of the signatures and N see you're the importance of the signatures is that you're arguing to me that he agreed to pay all this stuff on the left it's not even in the original document he photographed why would he photograph it did you forge this no I did not Forge it show me you have a license on you I have my passport give it to me famous passport show me your text with him okay just white left she can go over like that left and then I have some text messages that are printed out but the ones that are got to say it doesn't even look like a sign the ones that are printed out are different from the ones on the phone and swipe oh literally pots and pans are on the list even in the original one of what you're taking me I can definitely see differences in the handwriting they're very slow light when did you guys break up August what August [Music] 24th I believe she was really trying to get you back what was it that you weren't resp like in other words she's texting you nonstop in August because there was an injunction against me there was some major blowout fight because what what do you mean she went out and got a restraining order there's a different case that's going on also between the two of you between the two of us about what she's claiming that I hit her and there's pictures that prove absolutely nothing in that case also but um she went and got a restraining order against me because of it were you trying to go to counseling yes ma'am what were you going to go to counseling for if it didn't happen I'm sorry what were you going to go to counseling for if it didn't happen well we were going because we were actually having rough patches we were always arguing and I went she had requested me to go to counseling to see if we can make this work and the counselor did what she had to do and I just wasn't one to be in the relationship anymore at this point what was she already suspecting you were cheating on her and has she already accused you of it you say it wasn't true but she always has accused me I mean just like I mean I hate to say it I mean she's not mentally all there but I mean okay so she says you say I'm moving out I can't pay rent in two places and she says but that's what we agreed on and you have been here and your things are still here so you're going to leave me with nothing high and dry and owe me 650 for your half of the trip that's the New York trip so why are you you're sing in for the whole New York trip yes why because we agreed on that I told him that I was I was not wanting to your text you're not even saying that your text you're saying 650 for the half of the trip I bought you a phone and a passport the least you could do is pay this month's rent which is three days which is in three days I've also paid your child support and carote multiple times so let's be fair and your answer to her is let me get paid and figure out my finances first no what are you talking about you never paid my car note but rent is in three days and I don't have it you agreed to pay it I said let me get paid and figure my finances first what day did you move out on the 18th of August the and August rent was due when the first yeah who ended up paying August rent I did and it's 1,600 right okay what is your explanation for why he has a photograph of this document without this bottom with something else written here that was erased and without this column here because we took that same contract we erased it we just it because of the simple fact I decided to stay in the house but why would there be why would he also at that very in that very same breath give you all of these other things why would he all of a sudden agree that he owes you an additional uh let's see owes for five months because of unemployed child support 500 car note 200 Insurance 240 creditors 300 New York trip bundle 1,200 gas and food 2,000 passport 2 like why would that change because you were going to stay there right he AG it doesn't make sense that he would all of a sudden agree to all these things that's why I feel like you doctored this up welcome back to the People's Court Harvey 11 here so if he has feelings for another woman while he's still in a relationship is he allowed to be friends with that other woman still if he acknowledges it absolutely not because because you're just playing with fire at that point what do you say what do I say yeah okay wow okay uh Miranda writes there what do you say I say whatever happens happens as long as somebody's honest okay uh going inside the courtroom he um he decided to change his mind once he got arrested for uh getting abusive with me which I have a video of him driving off on my car in the middle of the night while my baby is in the bed let me see that you break my you're paying for it h my phone I got that on camera so I hope you know that that's all on camera everything that you're doing why the would you leave this thing unscrewed what are you videoing he took my he hit my phone out my hand only got P yeah why are you videoing on my uh he took he took off with my car you haven't gotten to the second video it's the same video is just split into two he took off with my car in the middle of the night and told me to go fetch it while my child is in the house and actually that is both of our car my name is on the no car it's not your vehicle is still my vehicle I cosigned okay all right um there uh I have numerous concerns in this case obviously I have a concern about the way that this purported promisory note comes to me because I think that there's all kinds of of stuff doctored up in there I also have concerns about someone who looks me in the eye and tells me she didn't pay any of this because after careful reading of the text between you two before anybody's on notice that there's going to be cord and a judge reading your text each time that she talks about stuff that she's paid for you you don't say what are you talking about you never paid that which is the natural thing for someone to respond and it's not instead what you're saying is let me figure out my fin finances so I know some of the stuff happens so I know you're lying and I know this isn't an agreement that he agreed to so I know you're lying so I'm left with trying to figure out what would be fair at a minimum I believe that you owe her August rent because you were there in August and didn't pay and I believe that you owe her one month's rent after that because you're leaving her high and dry however that changes when you decide to stay there because you've admitted to me that that he said look I'll just take care of all the rent you go get a cheaper place but you decided to stay there but I think you still owe the August one while you were still there all right but you wouldn't know future rents because you're the one who decided to stay with a three-bedroom place that you don't need all right I think you might have done that in your misguided effort to hope that you guys would get back together again or something I I don't I don't understand that this man is toxic for you okay you get that right yeah we're done we're done we're pass it all right I'm also going to order you to pay half of the New York trip as for everything else you know this is where we talk about attempting to divide pots and pans which you actually have on the list pots and pans so I'm going to order him to pay the 800 plus the 650 for a total verdict in your favor of $1,450 that is my verdict good luck fotes so the plaintive is going to get some money $1,450 you're going to have to give it to her well it is what it is I mean sounds like it's a real messy ending yeah definitely liveing you learn are you learning yeah I'm learning I'm learning all right well good luck to you okay thank you very much all right well what do you think I think that it is what it is and I've learned my lesson it wasn't Messy B yes it was really messy yes all right thank you very much okay Harvey you know Doug when the judge is talking about dividing up pots and pans really the point is judges are not going to do that start figuring out every little item the thing you need to do and it may be a little uncomfortable but it's important is to establish the financial ground ship the financial um ground rules excuse me when you enter a relationship that will do it for this case litigant for the next case on the way into the courtroom right now now

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Length: 19min 3sec (1143 seconds)

Published: Fri Mar 15 2024