I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY. HOPEFULLY, MY GUEST WILL HAVE AN
IDEA. PLEASE WELCOME BILL O'REILLY. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
BILL, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. BILL, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. >> SURE. >> Stephen: WE BOOKED YOU OVER
A MONTH AGO. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY OVER AT
THE REAL NEWS, SO I APPRECIATE YOU STILL BEING HERE TONIGHT. YOU PAY ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING
THAT HAPPENS AFTER A BIG NEWS STORY HAPPENS, ESPECIALLY AFTER
A NATIONAL TRAGEDY LIKE THIS ONE. WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD OUT THERE IN
THE FIRST 24 TO 36 HOURS THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD RESPONSE TO
YOU? IF IT WAS PRESIDENT O'REILLY,
WHAT WOULD YOU BE LISTENING TO AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT WASN'T
A TRAGEDY LIKE ONE OF OUR CONTRIBUTORS SAID LIKE AN AM
TRACK TRAIN DERAILING. THIS IS A BASIC WAR WE'RE IN. I LOOK AT THE NEWS FROM AN
HISTORICAL POINT OF VIEW, NOT ONLY A CONTEMPORARY POINT OF
VIEW. I THINK AT TIMES LIKE THESE,
AMERICANS, AFTER THE APPROPRIATE OUTPOURING OF GRIEF WHICH WE'VE
HAD, AND THEN THE APPROPRIATE CARE FOR THE FAMILIES INVOLVED,
WHICH THEY'RE RAISING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS NOW. ACTUALLY, THERE WAS A LINE TO
GIVE BLOOD EIGHT HOURS LONG IN ORLANDO TODAY, AND ALL OF THAT
IS APPROPRIATE. THEN YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY STEP
BACK AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE
IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM. IT'S A WAR. THESE PEOPLE, THE ISLAMIC
JIHADISTS HAVE DECLARED WAR IN THE WEST, IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE. NOW, THEY DON'T REPRESENT MOST
TO HAVE THE MUSLIM WORLD, BUT THERE IS ENOUGH OF THEM TO CAUSE
THE WORLD PAIN ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM. >> Stephen: WELL, YOU HAVE
FRAMED THE PROBLEM IN THAT WAY. >> RIGHT. >> Stephen: BUT IT CAN BE
LOOKED AT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. YOU CAN ALSO SAY THE PROBLEM IS
EASY ACCESS TO HIGH CAPACITY, RAPID-FIRING WEAPONRY. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO -- AS THE PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS ADDRESS,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE EITHER/OR, THEY CAN BOTH BE
PROBLEMS. IF YOU ACCEPT THOSE CAN BOTH BE
PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE IN. >> I DON'T THINK THE PROBLEM IS
DEFINED NEARLY AT THE JIHADIST LEVEL BY THE AMERICAN GUN
EXPERIENCE. I DON'T. >> Stephen: TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF PEOPLE ARE KILLED WITH GUNS. >> RIGHT. >> Stephen: AND HAVING NOTHING
TO DO WITH JIHADIS OR ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS. THERE HAVE BEEN MASS MURDERS WHO
HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RADICAL IDEOLOGY. THIS IS SOMEONE WITH RADICAL
IDEOLOGY AND IS MOTIVATED PERHAPS BY A SCHIZOPHRENIC
INTEREST IN BELIEVING HE'S PART OF SOMETHING BIGGER, PERHAPS BY
RESPONDING TO A CALL FROM I.S.I.S. TO KILL PEOPLE IN THE
UNITED STATES, BUT THEN HE HAD THE ACCESS TO THE WEAPON TO DO
THE DEED. SO IT'S GOT TO BOTH BE PART OF
THE PROBLEM, DON'T YOU THINK? >> BUT YOU HAVE TO STEP BACK AND
LOOK AT SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS RATHER THAN LAMENTING PROBLEMS
THAT CANNOT BE SOLVED. >> Stephen: BUT IF YOU DON'T
AGREE WHAT THE PROBLEM, IS YOU CAN NEVER AGREE ON A SOLUTION. >> OKAY, BUT --
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) -- IT'S MY JOB AS A NEWS ANALYST
TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM, AND THE SOLUTION IS NOT
SOME KIND OF FEDERAL GUN CONTROL AT A LEVEL OF TAKING GUNS AWAY. >AWAY
(AUDIENCE REACTS) >> Stephen: LISTEN SO WHAT HE
HAS TO SAY, PLEASE. >> CHICAGO HAS THE TOUGHEST GUN
LAWS IN THE COUNTRY. CHICAGO HAS THE HIGHEST MURDER
RATE IN THE COUNTRY. WHY? BECAUSE YOU CANNOT PATROL 24-7
CRIMINALS AND TERRORISTS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO GUNS. >> Stephen: AND THEY COME FROM
MOSTLY OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO. >> THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF GUNS ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA RIGHT NOW, LEGAL
GUNS, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE
SECOND AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS AND OUR HISTORY IS ONE OF THAT WE
USE WEAPONS NOT ONLY TO GET OUR FREEDOM FROM GREAT BRITAIN BUT
TO FORGE THE WEST WHERE THERE WASN'T ANY CONTROL OF THE LAW. NOW, AUSTRALIA IS THE BEST
EXAMPLE. AUSTRALIA HAD, 20 YEARS AGO -- I
THINK IT WAS THIS WEEK -- AN HORRIFIC, ALMOST LIKE ORLANDO, I
THINK IT WAS 35 PEOPLE IN TASMANIA KILLED WITH AN
AUTOMATIC WEAPON AND THEY BANNED ALL AUTOMATIC WEAPONS AND MOST
HANDGUNS. (APPLAUSE)
>> Stephen: THEY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF WEAPONS IN THE COUNTRY
BY ABOUT HALF. >> MORE THAN THAT. IF YOU CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON
OR PISTOL IN AUSTRALIA, 14 YEARS IN PRISON. (APPLAUSE)
O WE CAN LEARN FROM INDUSTRIAL. I CAN'T THE GUN MURDER RATE IN
20 YEARS HAS FALLEN 72% IN AUSTRALIA. IN THE UNITED STATES, ROUGHLY
OVER THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME, THE MURDER RATE WITH GUNS HAS
FALLEN 30% AND THE SHOOTINGS HAVE FALLEN 60%. NOBODY KNOWS THAT. OKAY, OUR GUN PROBLEM IS GOING
DOWN HERE, NOT UP. WHY? NOW, THIS IS THE KEY TO SOLVING
THE GUN PROBLEM -- WHY IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MANDATORY
FEDERAL SENTENCES HANDED OUT TO VIOLENT OFFENDERS INCLUDING DRUG
GANGSTERS. THOSE MANDATORY SENTENCES ARE
NOW UNDER FIRE FROM THE LEFT. THEY DON'T LIKE THEM. OKAY. BUT THEY TOOK OFF THE STREETS
MOST OF THE REAL BIG-TIME BAD CRIMINALS AND PUT THEM AWAY. SO MY SOLUTION TO THE GUN
PROBLEM IS THIS -- NUMBER ONE, CONGRESS DEBATES WHICH GUNS ARE
ALLOWED. YOU CAN'T HAVE A BAZOOKA. YOU CAN'T HAVE HAND GRENADES. YOU CAN'T. SO IT'S PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE FOR
CONGRESS TO SAY WHAT KIND OF RIFLES SHOULD PEOPLE BE ABLE TO
BUY. >> Stephen: SO PRESIDENT
O'REILLY WOULD BE OPEN TO THE IDEA THAT AK-47s OR AR15s
SHOULD BE LIMITED. >> YOU CAN BRIT OUT AND SAY
THESE WEAPONS SHOULD NOT BE SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES, NO MATTER
WHAT THE STATES SAY BECAUSE FEDERAL LAW TAKES PRECEDENT, AND
DEBATE IT. IN 1976 THEY STOPPED MANY OF THE
HIGH-TECH RIFLES. THEY BANNED THEM AND THAT
LAPSED. WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT. >> Stephen: LET'S GET TO
RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM. >> I WANT TO ADDRESS GUNS
BECAUSE YOUR SCREW APPLAUDING STUFF THEY SHOULDN'T BE
APPLAUDING. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS EVERY
SINGLE CRIME COMMITTED IN THIS COUNTRY WITH A GUN WHETHER
ORLANDO TERRORISM OR CHICAGO IN THE INNER CITY DRUG GANGS, EVERY
CRIME IS THEN A FEDERAL CRIME. NO MORE LOCAL OR STATE, IT'S A
FEDERAL CRIME. >> Stephen: DON'T YOU THINK
THERE WILL BE OUTCRY FROM PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN STATES RIGHTS. >> OUTCRY DOESN'T CONCERN ME. >> Stephen: OUTCRY OVER THE
SECOND AMENDMENT DOES CONCERN YOU. >> I DON'T CARE. >> Stephen: YOU DON'T CARE
ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT? >> I DO, BUT THE SECOND
AMENDMENT DOESN'T GIVE ANYBODY THE RIGHT TO COMMIT A CRIME WITH
A GUN. >> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND THAT. O EVERY GUN CRIME, INCLUDING
SELLING ILLEGAL GUNS, IS A FEDERAL CRIME WITH MANDATORIES. SO IF YOU ROB A SEVEN-ELEVEN
WITH A GUN, NOT ONLY ARE YOU CONVICTED OF THE ROBBERY OF THE
SEVEN-ELEVEN WHICH IS A LOCAL BEEF, BUT YOU GET TEN YEARS IN
THE FEDERAL PENITENTIARY ON TOP OF THAT. THAT TAKES AWAY --
>> Stephen: MANDATORY SENTENCING. YOU BELIEVE THAT SOME LIMITING
OF ACCESS TO HIGH-CAPACITY AND SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONRY IS A
REASONABLE THING FOR CONGRESS TO --
>> RIGHT, CONGRESS PASSES THAT LAW AND FEDERALIZES THE GUN
CRIME. >> Stephen: LET'S GET BACK TO
THE SPES PHIS THETY OF THE OLDER -- SPECIFICITY OF THE
ORLANDO ATTACK. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PROPER
RESPONSE IS TO STOP SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHICH DOES NOT FALL
UNDER THE CATEGORY OF THE KIND OF CRIMES YOU WERE TALKING
ABOUT. >> IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR
TIMOTHY McVEIGHS, YOUR BOSTON MASSACRE BOLESSINGS AND
SAN BERNARDINO KILLERS. IT'S THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY FROM
JACK THE RIPPER TO -- >> Stephen: THIS PERSON WHO
HAD BEEN INTERVIEWED TWICE BY THE F.B.I. AND THE F.B.I. HAS
SOMETHING TO ANSWER FOR FOR THAT. IF THIS PERSON INTERVIEWED TWICE
BY THE F.B.I. COULD STILL GET ACCESS TO AUTOMATIC WOMEN'S. >> BECAUSE HE HADN'T BROKEN A
LAW. >> Stephen: HE WASN'T ON A
NO-FLY LIST. >> BECAUSE THE PRIVATE AIRLINES,
THEY ARE TWUNS KEEPING HIM OFF THE FLIGHT. >> Stephen: THERE IS A FEDERAL
NO FLY LIST. PEOPLE CAN TAKE PEOPLE OFF THE
PLANE UNDER THEIR OWN VOLITION THEY CAN'T BUT THE FEDS CREATE
THE NO FLY LIST. >> IF I'M THE PRESIDENT OF
JETBLUE AND I SAY TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT I'M GOING TO LET
ANYONE ON THIS PLANE, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO ME. >> Stephen: HAS ANY AIRLINE
DONE THAT? >> NO. >> Stephen: WHY WOULD YOU
ARGUE IT? >> YOU CAN'T IMPOSE ON THE
F.B.I. -- AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN BLAME THEM EITHER, THE
BUREAU DOES A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB -- YOU CAN'T SAY, LOOK, THIS
TERRORIST, OMAR, ALL RIGHT, YOU HAD HIM, YOU KNEW MATEEN WAS A
BAD GUY, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE HIM IN THE COMMISSION OF A
CRIME. SO WHAT CAN YOU DO? YOU CAN'T JUST DETAIN HIM,
UNLESS CONGRESS DECLARES WAR AGAINST THE ISLAMIC JIHAD, WHICH
I SAY ON MY PROGRAM SHOULD HAPPEN. >> Stephen: I WANT TO TALK
MOOSHT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. ACK WITH MORE BIL BILL O'REILLY.
O'reilly sounding level headed...