>>> I KNOW BIPARTISANSHIP IS HARD AND UNITY IS HARD, BUT WE CAN NEVER STOP TRYING BECAUSE OF MOMENTS LIKE THIS ONE, THE ONES WE JUST FACED WHERE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY AND WORLD ECONOMY IS AT RISK OF COLLAPSING, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY. NO MATTER HOW TOUGH OUR POLITICS GETS, WE NEED TO SEE EACH OTHER NOT AS ADVERSARIES BUT AS FELLOW AMERICANS. TREAT EACH OTHER WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. TO JOIN FORCES AS AMERICANS TO STOP SHOUTING, LOWER THE TEMPERATURE, AND WORK TOGETHER TO PURSUE PROGRESS, SECURE PROSPERITY, AND KEEP THE PROMISE OF AMERICA FOR EVERYBODY. >> WE ARE BACK WITH STEPHANIE RUHLE, HOST OF THE 11th HOUR, AND JOINING US IS ALI VELSHI, MSNBC CHIEF CORRESPONDENT AND HOST OF VELSHI. VELSHI AND RUHLE. I MANAGED TO GET VELSHI AND RUHLE BACK TOGETHER. I'M PROUD OF MYSELF. >> MY MAN. >> ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS. I'M GOING TO GO TO YOU FIRST, ALI VELSHI. SO BIDEN AND HIS SORT OF LOW CAFFEINATED VERSION OF THE PRESIDENCY, ONE OF THE THINGS I FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY DONE IS IT REALLY DOES DEMONSTRATE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, UNDENIABLY, HOW INEFFECTUAL THE SCREAMING MIMIS ON THE OTHER SIDE WHO GET A LOT OF OUR TIME, THEY GET A LOT OF OOUR ATTENTION, THEY ACTUALLY ARE COMPLETELY INEFFECTUAL BECAUSE THEY MAKE A LOT OF NOISE AND GET A LOT OF HEADLINES BUT IN THE END, IT'S THE NORMIE POLITICIANS WHO GO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND SAVE THE ECONOMY AND PASS THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE OUR DEBT DOESN'T GO OVER THE HILL, THEY PROTECT MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY. I WONDER IF AT SOME POINT, EVEN REPUBLICANS START TO SAY, MAYBE WE'RE EXHAUSTED BY HAVING A MILLION LITTLE TRUMPS. MAYBE WE WANT THE ECONOMY TO STAY GOOD. >> I THINK IT'S BOTH THAT PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED BY TRUMP AND THE MILLION LITTLE TRUMPS AND THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR JUST DEMONSTRATING WHAT SLOW AND QUIET WORK DOES. I WAS ENJOYING THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE SHOW ABOUT NOT JUST JOE BIDEN BUT KEVIN McCARTHY BOTH SORT OF SIGNALING AT SOME POINT AS CHRIS HAYES SAID, THAT McCARTHY IS NOT GOING TO SHOOT THE HOSTAGE. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ON HIS SIDE WHO KEPT SHOOTING AND SAYING THESE THINGS AT THAT POINT WERE NOT REALLY HOLDING A LOT OF POWER BECAUSE THIS IS NOT -- HAD THIS GONE TO THE BRINK AND IT DID SEEM THAT JOE BIDEN AND KEVIN McCARTHY DID NOT BELIEVE IT WOULD GET THERE, ALTHOUGH WE CAME AWFULLY CLOSE. I THINK A LOT OF AMERICANS WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE REASON YOU GET SEPTEMBER TO WASHINGTON, IF YOU GO TO WASHINGTON, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE AND HOW FAR EITHER SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM YOU ARE, IS TO GET CERTAIN THINGS DONE. THERE'S A BARE MINIMUM ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO. THAT SHOULD BE BUDGETING, APPROPRIATIONS, AND PAYING OUR DEBT. AFTER THAT, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT THESE ARE BASIC RESPONSIBILITIES, AND THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE IN CONGRESS WHO DID NOT SEEM TO GET THE MEMO ABOUT THAT. FORTUNATELY, KEVIN McCARTHY DID SEEM TO GET THAT. THE POINT YOU MAKE IS AFTER 15 BALLOTS CLAWING HIS WAY TO THE SPEAKERSHIP, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WOULD MEAN HE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE AUTHORITIES TO PULL THIS OFF. AND I AM PLEASED FOR THE COUNTRY THAT HE DID. >> JOY, THIS IS -- >> I WILL NOTE THAT -- I WILL JUST SAY VERY QUICKLY THAT BIDEN VERY POINTEDLY THANKED HAKEEM JEFFRIES BECAUSE IN THE END, DEMOCRATS WERE NEEDED IN ORDER TO DELIVER THIS BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH REPUBLICANS TO DO IT. >> A LOT OF DEMOCRATS NEEDED. >> JOY, IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THAT MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE, MATT GAETZ FACTION, WHAT THEY ARE ARE MEDIA STARS. THEY ARE VERY, VERY LOUD MEDIA STARS, BECAUSE REMEMBER, AS CHRIS HAYES SAID A MOMENT AGO, AND FILLING IN ON NEWSMAX, THAT'S THEIR NEXT GIG. IN THE MIDDLE OF KEVIN McCARTHY'S MULTIPLE VOTES, I INTERVIEWED LAUREN BOEBERT. DURING THE COMMERCIAL BREAK, YOU KNOW WHAT SHE SAID? HOW DO I GET A GIG LIKE THIS? THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT IN THEIR NEXT MOVE. HOW DO I BECOME A PAID SPEAKER? HOW DO I SPEAK AT THE NRA CONVENTION? BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR JAM. IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE WASN'T EVEN SITTING ON A COMMITTEE, AND KEVIN McCARTHY JUST SHOWED UP AT THE TABLE, AND AGAIN, THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HIM, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THIS VOTE WAS SO CONSEQUENTIAL TO US JUST DOING THE BARE MINIMUM, IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE FOR ANY LAWMAKER TO VOTE NO, AND WHILE WE ALL SAT HERE AND SAID THESE REPUBLICANS THAT ARE OBSTRUCTIONISTS THAT ARE VOTING NOW ARE TRYING TO TANK THE ECONOMY, PEOPLE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO DEMOCRATS HERE, AND WHILE I TOTALLY GET IT, THEY IN MANY SENSES THEY WANT TO NOT JUST PLAY TO THEIR BASE, BUT SERVE WHAT THEY WENT TO CONGRESS TO DO, SOMETHING LIKE THE DEBT CEILING ISN'T SOMETHING YOU COULD BE A PUREST ABOUT, BECAUSE IF WE WENT INTO DEFAULT, THE CONSEQUENCES ARE CATASTROPHIC. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAKEEM JEFFRIES. HAKEEM JEFFRIES, THE REPORTING INDICATES, WAS IN THE WINGS FOR McCARTHY SAYING IF YOU CAN GET ENOUGH OF YOUR PEOPLE ON SIDE, I CAN GET THE REST OF THE PEOPLE TO DO IT. >> THAT IS WHAT WE NEED OF LAWMAKERS. HAKEEM JEFFRIES, NOT DROP KICKING HIM IN THE HALLWAY. AND TRUST ME, HE HAS A MILLION REASONS WHY HE COULD AND SHOULD HATE KEVIN McCARTHY'S GUTS. BUT HE -- >> HE WASN'T ALL OVER TV. HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT IT. HE WAS IN THE WINGS SAYING, THE PRESIDENT AND TO McCARTHY, WE'LL GET THIS DONE. WHATEVER YOU NEED ONCE THIS IS ABOUT TO CROSS THE FINISH LINE, WE'RE HERE. >> AND THE THING IS, YOU KNOW THAT WE NOW KNOW JUST THROUGH REPORTING THERE WAS ESSENTIALLY A GROUP OF DEMOCRATS WHO WERE PREPARED TO BACK McCARTHY IF ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE CROWD DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO PULL THIS MOVE OF TRYING TO HAVE A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN THE SPEAKER. THE DEAL WAS MADE THE WAY OLD FASHIONED DEALS ARE. YOU DID TALK ABOUT THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS' CHALLENGES WITH THE DEAL. FIRST, THE CLIMATE DEAL THAT WAS MADE WITH JOE MANCHIN, I THINK WAS ONE ISSUE. BUT THERE ARE THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE BALANCING THE INTERESTS OF SENIORS, YOU KNOW, SENIORS, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, ET CETERA, AND BALANCING THE NEEDS OF THE MOST -- THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THE MOST IN THIS COUNTRY, ALI. THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE ABOUT GUTTING FOOD STAMPS, ABOUT WORK REQUIREMENTS, PEOPLE ALREADY ARE WORKING. TRYING TO REALLY STICK IT TO THE SAME PEOPLE THEY ALWAYS TRY TO STICK IT TO. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK LAWRENCE WILL SAY THIS ALL THE TIME. YOU CAN MAKE A STATEMENT VOTE WHEN YOUR VOTE ISN'T NEEDED, BUT IF THEIR VOTES HAD BEEN NEEDED TO PASS IT, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS AT LEAST WOULD HAVE GONE ON AND PASSED IT IF VOTES WERE NEEDED. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. WE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE WORKING POOR. PEOPLE SAY THINGS LIKE WORKING CLASS, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY AND STILL DO NEED FOOD STAMPS. >> I THINK THAT WOULD SURPRISE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THAT WORLD. THAT IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE ON FOOD STAMPS OR OTHER FORMS OF ASSISTANCE WITH JOBS. AND ANYBODY WITH A CALCULATOR ON YOUR PHONE, TAKE IT OUT AND UNDERSTAND THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE REMAINS $7.25 AN HOUR. MULTIPLY THAT BY 40 HOURS A WEEK IF YOU'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO JUST HAVE TO WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK. THERE'S NOWHERE IN THE COUNTRY YOU CAN LIVE FOR THAT. IN MOST PLACES IT'S NOT $7.25. IT'S $9 OR $10, EFFECTIVE MINIMUM WAGE OF $15. YOU'RE MAKING $30,000 A YEAR, SO WHY ARE WE LOOKING, IF YOU HAVE A VIEW THAT WE DON'T TAKE IN ENOUGH MONEY OR SPEND TOO MUCH MONEY, BOTH OF WHICH CAN BE TRUE. YOU CAN EITHER GET MORE REVENUE OR SPEND LESS, WHY IS IT'S IT'S A GREAT FALSE NARRATIVE. TO TELL PEOPLE THAT THOSE PEOPLE SITTING IN THE SUBURBS THAT WELFARE ARE NOT WORKING. AND THOSE REPUBLICAN VOTERS DON'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENT. >> AND MEANWHILE, STEPHANIE, WE ARE SITTING IN ON 3.7% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. WE ARE SITTING AT, ESSENTIALLY FULL EMPLOYMENT, 339,000 JOBS CREATED IN MAY WHICH WAS WELL ABOVE EXPECTATIONS. THE AVERAGE HOURLY WAGE ONLY WENT UP 0.3%, UP TO $33.44 AN HOUR. THERE ARE ALL THESE DISCONNECTS, RIGHT, TELLING PEOPLE GOING OUT AND WORK WHEN WE ARE ESSENTIALLY AT FULL EMPLOYMENT. >> PEOPLE ARE WORKING. WE HAVE MORE OPEN JOBS THAN WE HAVE UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE IN AMERICA. BECAUSE OF THE MISMATCH, EITHER THEY ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE OR HAVE THE WRONG TRAINING. YOU HIT THE MAGIC NUMBER THERE. 339,000 NEW JOBS. STEPHANIE, WHEN WE USED TO GET 150,000 JOBS IN A MONTH WE WOULD THINK THAT WAS, WHOA, BLOWING THE ROOF OFF. 339,000 -- AND YET LOOK AT THE SMALL WAGE GROWTH, THERE. THE POOR PEOPLE ARE NOT CAUSING THE PROBLEM, THEY'RE NOT CAUSING THE INFLATION, THEY'RE NOT DOING THESE THINGS. AS YOU AND I DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY THERE ARE ACTUAL STUDIES TO SHOW THAT IF YOU INCREASE THE WORK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ASSISTED'S THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING IN MANY CASES THAT THEY ALREADY WORK FOR, YOU DON'T REDUCE UNEMPLOYMENT, YOU DON'T GET MORE PEOPLE ON TO THE ROLES. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU HAVE LESS PEOPLE GETTING FEDERAL ASSISTANCE. OH WE ARE GOING TO ACHIEVE WITH THESE WORK REQUIREMENTS IS A SLIGHTLY HIGHER POVERTY RATE. >> WE DO NOT HAVE AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE IN THE UNITED STATES. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING PEOPLE, GO UP AND GET A JOB. INSTEAD OF, ON THE
