Beyond the Table | Episode 1- The Birth of a Podcast

[Music] welcome to be on the table I'm Donald Gibson and joining me today is uh Trey Gibson and Trey is the creative arts director here at Mercy Gate Church more importantly uh he's my son and he's probably the most creative person that I know um Trey you have more gifts and talents in your little finger than I got in my whole body and to be honest with you I am often times so so jealous but I'm also the benefactor of your creativity and so I find it fitting that today you're the one joining me on this initial podcast to talk about beyond the table because it really was um your brainchild idea to come up with this uh to really supplement or even potentially replace what we were doing with innovate so talk to me a little bit about just some of these thoughts yeah so I think the big thing for me was everything you always leave after um like Sunday Services you know you're studying for like a week praying into like what to speak on and you know I more I know more than most you're always like you have like four more hours to teach you know and you're always saying every Sunday is like oh I got to end early you know I want to go on this Rabbit Trail so I think we just needed a big Avenue and people always want more too it's weird we have like a really weird church where you know you can preach for an hour and a half and everyone's like man I wish you would have just kept going especially when you like teach like that's a big thing like um you know anytime you preach you're super excited very engaging and people love watching that but when you just sit down and you talk cuz I I think growing up I remember you'd always get frustrated at the church or people like you know everyone does and you would always be like what would you say I wish I could just be a a professor at some college or something like that and I think that's really where you shine a lot of the times is just teaching yeah I you know I love teaching I love teaching when you see the results when you see people take the information and really apply it to their lives and I I I do I love that I think it's the reward of seeing people grow seeing people flourish and they don't have to grow a lot just a little bit of of development and growth and change man that ex that that excites me you know I think that's why I love communicating to leaders because often times I get invited to come speak to huge crowds and I say no yeah and they're like I've been opportunity they're like I'll put you in front of 150,000 people and I'm like right nah I don't want to do that I don't need a photo op but what you know the same group says hey I'll put you in front of 500 leaders yeah whether it's pastors or in the business Community now that one's hard for me to say no to because I realize if you impact leaders you'll impact multiplied people yeah and so and I think when we because at first we were thinking the podcast will be called let's talk yeah and so oh we'll just expand on your sermons and that's all we'll kind of do you know we'll have a 20 30 minute one for people that want to digest that and for the crazy people we'll have an hour hour and a half that like the Donald Gibson show 24/7 you know and people would love that and would so like buy into that which is awesome um but that was our let's talk format early on and then we thought well what about a seat at the table and I know you have a huge passion like you were saying those 10 people um what you have like a Grace thing on you that's like huge and I envy that but also I'm it's so frustrating as well cuz like everyone will give up on somebody and you're just like oh no they're going to you know in the 11th Hour they're going to be a rock star you know and that's amaz that's crazy I don't know where that comes from but I think um for a seat at the table Yeah is talking about those 10 people you know come together here's like practical things you can do and I think early on you were talking to me what really impassioned me about um what you're saying the richz Carl story yeah and I was like okay well people need to like every time we start the podcast we just need to tell this story cuz that's like you in a nutshell and I don't know if you want to explain the rich Carlton story yeah you know the funny thing is I had played in a golf tournament and had um there were five flights and I won my flight yeah and they um put all of us winners into a bowl and they're going to draw a name to go participate in another golf tournament free of charge to um out at the Ritz Carlton in uh Southern California well I won and so I got to fly out there and I I was a nobody I mean still am a nobody but well I was um I was at the time pastoring in Freeport Texas now we were the fastest growing Church in that area we had grown from seven to 30 people yeah and so um but I flew out there and I I was among really The Who's Who in the leadership world and I didn't realize that and I was sitting at a table um with the top five pastors of the nation in 1997 J and what struck me that was so cool was nobody played games that they didn't care the size of my church they didn't care treat me any different they made me feel valued at the table and so I I ended up writing down notes of the kind of person I wanted to be from that experience and so um I just made a determination you know what that's the way I'm going to treat other people I'm going to believe in people I I'm not going to play this stupid preacher games that I I detest yeah or the hierarchal ladder game you know he with the most toys wins well yeah you know I I I just I don't have time for all that I don't care um and so that's just kind of why and how that began to develop in me yeah and so it was pretty cool another neat story about The Ritz um when I pulled up this my first time to ever stay at a Ritz Carlton yeah okay and so I pull up and the uh guy comes out to pick up my luggage and just you know help me and and so I do that and I you know he could tell I didn't belong there yeah just why like okay he could just see I was nervous I didn't belong in that place and he said um is this first time you ever been at the rits I said yes sir it is he said well let me show you my hotel and he took me all over that place and he treated it as if it was his own property yeah and he was is simply you know the coner at the front desk yeah and it was absolutely amazing and it really set a pattern of how I think uh people should serve in in business how people should serve in leadership how people should serve in church for sure yeah that man I own the thing because honestly I would not have known if he was not the owner right you know and so I think it's just whether it's at a table or whether it's you know that guy showing me around it really left a mark on me of the kind of people and the kind of person I I really want to be and I think I think if more leadership aspired to that we would see a bigger impact and we begin to change culture yeah and and so that's why I you know we went through all these variations and Renditions of you know a seat at the table at the table and I just kind of landed on the idea of you know what how about beyond the table Yeah because there's a lot of good conversations that happen at the table yeah and there's a lot of good teaching that happens at the table but what I've learned is that it people don't leave the table with it right yeah they don't take it and apply it yeah and I think the table really shows that you have to be at this place and and I and I think that's something we didn't see early on is you know at the table was talking about hey you need to come up to this place yeah to then be part of this something and that's not like the concierge saying you know this is my hotel like taking ownership of it and you know making you feel invited and that you belong and I remember when you were first telling me a story uh you were able to go back that day when it started and you were able to feel confident just walking in amongst all these rock stars you know and you were able to be like him this is my hotel yeah and I feel like a lot of times that's kind of where your heart lies is you want to be the concierge to people to leadership and to Jesus yeah and that's that's crazy because like we're saying most people you know like they're very gifted they're very talented but it's hard not to go for that ladder it's hard not to be like oh well you know success in Jesus and the church I have to have all these things these toys it's it's all about you know I have 15 campuses now million dollars all this stuff you know and we forget that you know it's it's just about Jesus and and that's why I like I always told you like I never want to work for a church right I think I used to have like these things that I didn't like about the church and over that time it's changed a lot and now I love the church and I'm like okay well it's a hospital for broken people of course you're going to have broken people in it like what do I expect but you just come along with this like non-ladder mentality and I think that's why I I I've always wanted to just work for my dad because I can trust your leadership I can trust that you know it's not you I'm following I'm following Jesus by following you which I have to have my own like you know follow Jesus of course but like I know even when like I don't see like the vision and where we're going I know that you do because you'll never make a move if God's not in it and I feel like that's it's not rare but it's rare for people to find to the point they can trust yeah if that makes sense no it does and um I think and I appreciate all that that's my attempts I I don't know one bats a thousand no one gets it right all the time um I probably have a laundry list of mistakes more so than I do successes I had heard a phrase one time that I've never had forgotten and I really I love the idea I love the concept of it and it said um you know speaking of that ladder be careful who you step on on your way up because you're going to pass them on your way back down and um you know I I heard uh another Pastor say uh and it's and it really it comes from my life verse my life verse is humble yourself under the hand of God and due season he will exalt you and he will lift you up I think that works in every aspect of life it will work in business it will work it as a student relating with their parents uh parents relating with their bosses pastors relating with their people people relating with leadership that if you will humble yourself under the hand of God yeah in due season in the right time he will exalt you and he will lift you up now here's the thing if I'm lifted up I know God did it right yeah and if God did it then God's responsible to keep me there and God can take me back down but if I lift myself up I've always got to push other people down to keep myself lifted up I just think that's a train wreck for leadership I also think that's the reason why um our country is in the way it it is and I think we need to have conversations around the table and then go beyond it yeah and live that out yeah for sure and so it's just kind of uh my heart for this uh podcast and um it's going to kind of be a smorgus board and bring different voices uh different approaches different aspects and so um to the table each week yeah it's awesome I'm it's crazy that I was the first guest here yeah on this side of things instead of you know hiding behind the camera were you surprised that I said yes I was shocked that you said yes but I shocked I said but I was so excited that you said yes because I I also think that you undervalue what you have to say that you undervalue your voice uh your experience and I I you just bring so much more to the table than you give yourself credit to and I think that's a huge thing too and like out of this like you can teach people is like I always feel like I I need the answer for every little thing yeah before I step up yeah you know and that's never going to happen and Leadership and Jesus and all of it it's like you're not supposed to know anything supposed to just be like maybe be prayed up a lot hoping for the best and then when you step up you're just like I hope this works out Jesus gots me and that's that I feel like that's a lot of times where a lot of people stunt themselves in their growth yeah is they're like they don't trust you know another thing I want to elaborate on our next podcast a little bit is this idea I had a guy tell me one time he said I figured out your style of leadership I said okay and this was 30 years ago he said this he said you're a color by number leader and so I felt a little in you know insulted you know and he said no no no he said I want you to understand he said you see the big picture yeah and then you bring everybody's little box of crayons to the table yeah and you don't expect everybody to have a 64 count box yeah and so what I know is I come to the table and I I I I got four crayons in my box that's it I got the smallest box that's out there you know but other people bring their crayons their experience their knowledge their their um you know background yeah uh their hurts their pains their successes their value to the big picture and when you understand that that allows them to fill in the places within the vision the guy who knows it all oh yeah the 64 box people kind of make me nervous and so I think in a future podcast we'll talk about that and expound on it a lot because I have a lot to say about it yeah that'd be awesome so um what what I kind of want to do is give you an opportunity to join us every Friday at 4 o'clock we'll be dropping a new uh episode of beyond the table and I look forward to some great conversations with a lot of different guests uh in the future hope you have a great [Music] day

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Published: Fri Feb 09 2024