Beyond Sunday | Episode 11 - Dave Shelton

welcome to beyond sunday where we have a cup of coffee a conversation and cultivate our relationships with one another in christ beyond sunday is a podcast ministry of kindred church broadcasting to you from beautiful orange county california and now here's your host tom grassi well hello and thank you for joining us for another episode of beyond sunday where we have a cup of coffee and a conversation with members of our worship and music ministry team here at kindred community church i'm your host for beyond sunday tom gracie and minister of music here at kindred and it's my joy to welcome my next guest for this episode and it reminds me of this quote he reminds me of this quote from william arthur ward who's an author and award-winning scholar william arthur ward said this quote the mediocre teacher tells the good teacher explains the superior teacher demonstrates but the great teacher inspires so we have the joy of having a retired history teacher with us better known as the dave shelton joining us on beyonce dave it's good to have you with us oh good to be here now dave what category of all of those do you think you fit in i know that i think you're in the inspiring category well you you need to ask my former students i have taught beth de corsi wow the mcallister children the samsung children wow and aaron boone the manager of the new york yankees so okay so folks he's there at the inspire he's he's at the last of the list he's the inspiring teacher yeah i'll i'll take that yeah thank you well before i want to get right back into that again dave because i want to talk about that's something that maybe some people that are new to kinder don't even know is your is your teaching background but but first uh dave it's it's a joy to have you with us and just want you to tell us a little bit about about you and and kathy and how long you've been at kindred i know you're you're you're kind of the charter member at kindred and and for many people who are at kindred and including myself who's been here for six years every time i'm with you i learned it seemed to learn something new about kindred folklore uh and and maybe tell us a little bit about you and kathy and how you all started at kindred and over at the elks lodge and playing bass guitar every sunday and faithfully playing bass with us to this day just sort of wrap all that up and and and tell us a little bit about kind of the early days a little bit of of of of kindred but maybe go back before that tell us maybe a little bit about how you and kathy met and all of that would be great for us to know all right well my wife is kathy uh on july 1st which is this is being filmed is tomorrow that will be our 43rd anniversary wow yeah congratulations they said it wouldn't last 43 years she hasn't figured it out but she just retired so she may get to figure it out really soon so um we met and it's kind of weird circumstances odd i mean people meet in all kinds of circumstances so um i was i was working at a camper manufacturing plant while i was uh in college and she was working at a fast food place and sometimes during lunch we'd skip out and go get lunch there at the fast food place and i i noticed kathy cute little blonde girl and so um weeks later um my friend and i are in there we were janitors to begin with we just cleaned up we came in after our classes and cleaned up things where they're cleaning up the office and we saw kathy come walking in and i said hey that's the wimpy's girl because she worked at wimpy's which made submarine sandwiches and she ended up getting a job there well i i used to pester her at california campers and then years later um actually um when i was playing music i invited her i happened to call up her mom's house and she didn't even live there anymore but she happened to be there so i invited her to uh to come to one of our our gigs and then uh you know over over time i asked her out on a a real date and uh every one that happened you know over a period of time and then uh 1978 we got married um yeah we we don't have any children we have two tortoises that's it they may outlive us you have to put them in your will because they're very long long-lived so wow wow you know it's spoken as a true musician day for you to have the wisdom and and foresight and ability at a young age to be able to know that when you take this girl that you're interested in to take her out on a real date as opposed to a gig good on you there yeah yeah because us musicians tend to sometimes conflate a gig and a date all at once right and that usually doesn't go over too well no we don't spend much time with them yeah yeah right so we're kind of it's like asking somebody to come right watch to watch you work right so no that's right yeah not a real date good deal so fast forward into that that brings you to kindred so i know you were a part of the uh original kind of the the the father church if you will of kindred before kindred even became kindred maybe tell folks especially who are new to kinder just a little bit about that journey and and uh you all uh being here at kindred well it it goes back to my my teaching career and one of i was a softball coach as well and we were we were already going to um calvary church and we were in an adult bible class but it wasn't really doing it for us and my manager who was uh dana obrimsky um said well if you don't like it you should come to my dad's class at calvary and so i said okay what room is it in so the next sunday she greets us at the door and brings us in and we we really liked it and this was in one of the upper rooms by the uh by the gymnasium at uh at calvary church um it the class got so big that they moved to samsberg chapel and um while attending there the uh the the music was generally just a solo artist sometimes it was lou hager sometimes it was um mike stan mike sorrell from the altar boys sometimes it was dave garrett well dave garrett played a lot he played piano and guitar and he played and accompanied himself a lot and um so one time after sitting there i just went up to him i said do you ever need a bass player to play along with you and he said well that would be you're like you know what one that would be great and it it got to the point where i just showed up with a base every sunday at sam's vic chapel and it didn't matter who was leading they just had the charts there and we would run through and do a sound check and and then so i was kind of like the the house bassist i wasn't really sure who would be leading but i was relatively sure they were going to need a basement what years approximately was that i don't know when that was that was a way i should have studied that was a long time ago so um when i i was so it had to be in the 80s yeah yeah maybe maybe the late 80s and then it uh it became a little more formalized in terms of the the group of musicians you know adding a drummer uh lou and dave playing together um and we then it kind of broke off into an another church rather than a class the class had gotten really large um it it was uh it was time that chuck wanted to move into uh and into his his own ministry rather than just being a sunday school class and having a church ministry he was also the chaplain of the angels and the rams at the time so uh he had a teaching gift so we moved to the elks club which um didn't it it was it was kind of odd uh you know having a disco ball and and and stuffed animal heads around but it was that you know it it met our needs and everybody kind of it was nice that everybody had a job to do because it wasn't set up as a church so people came and made coffee people came and set up the chairs people came and arranged you know all the sound equipment needed to be set up every sunday so it was a very involved congregation um we eventually then moved to the the garden church which is what kindred is now and uh then went through a whole series of worship leaders um dave led for a while uh tim o'nan uh sylvia cotton um we just you know his whole and then christian ebner who was there for the longest period of time and then that brought us to to tom grassi to the bald guy and so i've been you know all been downhill from there i'd like the last man standing because the only one that that ever plays at a a church or a men's retreat setting or anything is lou hager so you know lou and i are kind of the last of that original crew that were uh leading or participating in worship he just there's something about him and his just his personality and his in his in his spirit and his he's he's a blast yeah and he's a special man he is a very special person yeah as are you as are you and kathy both yeah well that's that's neat to to hear as well as to um you know to to have your experience dave and your your life experience but also to have your kind of wisdom and knowledge on the platform i know for me i value it greatly i value our friendship and your musicianship i respect greatly and and i think that um uh you know there's such a trend um in a lot of modern evangelical churches and i know we've talked about this many times before where you know gray hair in the pulpit is is fairly acceptable and fairly common knowledge but but gray hair in the band oftentimes you you don't see much and that's unfortunate yeah and and i think it's and and now uh now that i'm not just the young whippersnapper anymore i'm i'm 51 years old so for a worship leader 51 year old worship leader is kind of an old guy in this business so i'm kind of feeling uh like even more so that i'm grateful for a church that not only honors and respects but values you know people of all ages and stages you know in a past episode we had phoebe rob sitting in that chair and here she's just starting her life and leading in worship and just starting her career and she's a college student and and here you're you're my guest here today and and that's what i love most about my job to be honest is that i have this wide variety of of of uh generational gap that we come together and worship god and use our instruments and use our talents to glorify him and and learn from each other and grow from each other so i i love that about you and i love that about our church and so i think you would give an amen to that well yeah i love that yeah too that uh that the young people the younger people which is almost everybody on the stage for me they're all younger than i that you know they they inspire you they bring an energy um a different perspective um you know we've got so many of them every you know that and they're very accepting you know it's it's it's like as a musical community age really didn't matter to them we're just all contributing we're doing what we can uh and to you know to make a a a worship set mean something so that it's so that it works together so that's right yeah age is is hardly a consideration and um i i feel i relate well it's probably from my teaching career i feel i relate well to the to the younger ones definitely um and it's just great to have them there rather than have a a bunch of 50 somethings on stage because that i'm not sure that that would be embraced by the way our church is growing mm-hmm so that's great and love it it's gracious and it's a perfect segue actually for for talking a little bit about your teaching career so many people know that you're a retired high school teacher villa park for all of those years is that correct dave yes wow and how many years did you teach 35 at villa park 34 and change wow i i did start an education a little bit earlier uh once you got your credential it was a terrible time um i think i it was 1974 in 1975 and nobody was hiring teachers then it was a terrible time to be a a new teacher looking for a job and so one of my first jobs in education was at the court schools which it's there's a bunch of them around orange county and the one that i spent the most time at was otto fisher high school where and that's the school at juvenile hall right over by the the block city shopping center so i spent a while in there it's not really it wasn't really teaching they needed a credentialed person because it is a high school and people actually graduate from it but then i was glad to get the interviews at uh at villa park high school and i was there my my whole teaching career wow and in in that first experience there's some high-risk kind of students that is involved in that kind of environment that was probably a bit of trial by fire with you a little bit yeah you had to count the pencils because the sharpened objects you know wow yeah there was all kind it was and you were locked in the room just like the the kids were um you could call for a counselor it's like a panic button or anything i never had a bad experience with anything but that there was a reason for all of that stuff that's the stories yeah if if the walls of the shelton household could speak right of the stories that you could tell of what it was like to teach through those decades like it's it seems to be that that there's challenges every year in in in teaching but every period every hour there's a there's a different challenge so you go from being a hero to a zero in the course of a day yeah and you can't really be yeah be bored yeah because it's it's different every day every um and every it changes by the hour a whole group of kids come in and they're all different you know personalities yep so well dave i always have and always will have a very soft spot in my heart for teachers i come from a family with two educators in my family both my uncle and my aunt both taught in the public school district and i just think that we don't pay teachers enough and i think that what they are charged to do is far more than just the subject at hand that you're really molding uh molding people's lives and so on behalf of us grateful parents thank you for your incredible years that you put in in the school district and and uh for all of the many music educators that i know are watching this podcast i know they're they're giving a big hooray for for you as well too because uh grateful that you that you're uh honorably retired and and uh still serving in ministry well hey let's talk let's talk kind of for the remaining time because i knew the time would fly by some things that dave shelton likes to do for fun now dave i know you play kind of in a country band a little bit so a little cover band um and you guys have traveled you're like big in europe right you're worldwide we're famous in europe is that yeah yeah i've been playing this probably over 20 years now with the uh country uh singer-songwriter that lives locally he's up in the palace verdes area and uh met him through a drummer that was in another band that i was in and he was putting together um this night he had his he had songs and he played guitar and he wanted to put together a band and get out there and play so this uh the drummer was kind of mentoring this whole process and recruiting people to be in it so um he asked me if i you know if i could play country music i said well i've listened to a lot of country music i've never had an opportunity to play it but my parents had it on a lot so yeah i said yeah he said do you have a five string i said no but i'll go out i'm never hesitant to go out and buy another sure why not so i had a reason to go honey i gotta do it sorry and uh yeah and the rest is history i've been with him for about 20 years and yeah we've besides playing locally most of it in the in la county in the palace verde area and torrance that kind of thing but you know um vegas phoenix chicago atlanta um nashville the netherlands france germany scotland um england i mean incredible opportunities i've had just because of that that one drummer that we had uh wow and the connection between uh between him and uh and and boomer who is the singer-songwriter so yeah it's been fantastic for me and a great group of guys that that we tour with it wouldn't be fun if you did because you know you're living with them for two or three four weeks sometimes um but they're they're just tremendously fun guys that's amazing and you also touch on something dave that i think is great for our listeners to know about you and they can kind of superimpose that upon our own lives of what god can oftentimes do is is is is take a situation that sometimes it's just a relationship with one person and you could never have crafted that in a million years you would have never been able to pick that out of a lineup it's like god put that plan together and sometimes it's just so simple that it's just right in front of your face of some relationship some touch point that all of a sudden can turn into a 20-year business relationship or or opportunities to travel the world yeah i never could have but i mean that's what a lot of people dream of right you know and and to get paid for doing it and have fun and have your lodging and travel and airfare yeah eat some good food yeah fish and chips and france i didn't know how to order anything so it was a lot of chicken so but um yeah the the drummer was a believer and boomer is a believer and so um you know there was uh that that wasn't just happenstance it wasn't like an accident that that we were all put together in that regard and so it's you know just a tremendous opportunity that a lot of people would die to be able to experience and you know everybody that picks up a guitar bass or anything would like to yeah travel and and be paid for it so that's fantastic and to have a good time doing it yeah i would actually do it for free but don't tell him don't tell anybody we'll make sure this podcast doesn't get out that far no no hey dave uh just in brief time that we have left uh as as as a retired guy and a musician and someone who's looking across the horizon for the next thing one fun thing that i noticed that you've just just started doing just the last couple of months is is working at a cigar shop local actually just right around the corner from where della and i and and the kids live right now tell us just a little bit give a little bit of plug if you want to you can you can see your constituents right there well that's another thing i have a tuesday night gathering of a bunch of guys will watch a ball game and have cigars and one of them uh one of the ideas that that he had and he's actually attends kindred and he was thinking about opening a cigar shop well he and a couple of other friends put together all of the ideas and the money and the the plans for this and then he asked if i would be interested in working part-time well i wasn't looking for a part-time job because i was happy being retired for 10 years and doing whatever i wanted playing music and being able to pick up and go when i wanted to so um but that was an opportunity i thought well that's not work i would do that so yeah they opened about two months ago and it is local and it's it's you know it's brand new everything was built from the ground up so plume cigars bloom cigar lounge in your belinda so that's uh uh look for that's a really fun thing yes ask for dave ask for dave ask for dave well dave last question and that is uh everybody that does an interview with me they get this this coffee cup this beyond sunday coffee cup so do you have a favorite coffee or tea order i like vanilla latte yeah on a cool day hot on a uh hot i guess huh blended or iced either way like the vanilla latte yes i think in all the episodes maybe what we should do is get a list of all of the guests of their favorite drinks and i think i'd probably try every one of them you should i should i should well this wraps up this episode of beyond sunday it's been a joy to have dave shelton joining us you can find us and look at past episodes and you can find a link from the church's website which is www.kindredchurch.org or you can download this podcast through any podcasting app on your ipads or iphones you could find us on our youtube channel at kindred church anaheim hills find us on our socials at facebook and on instagram my name is tom grazie the host of beyond sunday it's great to have dave with us and thank you for watching this episode and we look forward to seeing you next time god bless [Music] thanks for joining this episode of beyond sunday brought to you by kindred church for updates on new episodes subscribe to our youtube channel at kindred church anaheim hills or join us on facebook or on our website at www.kindredchurch.org

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Published: Mon Sep 13 2021