Best Of Catfish Season 8 🧐 SUPER COMPILATION | Catfish: The TV Show

I do I have a I have a son a son wait yeah I have a son what what we we just asked you did you have a job no yes we ever had kids well bro it's the same thing no it's not it's not the same kids is more than one angular child well you guys were referring to Jermaine you guys were referring to the group of the kids but you do have I have a kid you have my own who is about to turn 17. wow from a previous relationship wow okay so you don't think that's something you should have told me huh y'all think that's something you should have told me you never asked me you never actually did you have a child yes you never straight up asked me if I have a win I've asked you multiple what did she says and you said no wow here hello hi two what's up nice to meet you nice to meet you as well how are you you look beautiful thank you you as well hi this is Laura and and Malcolm as you I can't believe you know Malcolm right I do I'm I'm glad it's you but why why you bring me all through this stuff like so you're gonna act delusional in front of them what you mean how I'm at the delusional though so really see that's why I want them to me like tell me explain to me like what did I do you ain't tell these people you owe me money I mean I was gonna give it back to you so you had over a year to give it back I haven't got it yet you mentioned that you had asked for money but he did not explain that it was money that you had given him I mean I was going through a rough time in prison and she had helped me out so how much money did you lend him 500. why you accept my money and tell me you was gonna give it back to me and then you gave me the run around saying you was gonna pay me back with your life you was going to marry me they said in the third yeah that's why I've been trying to do but every time I tried to meet up with you you always had to run around so oh okay this is new information for us so we're just catching up so everything for the most part with obviously the omission of you giving him money about your relationship is true he found you on Snapchat you guys talked you shared a real connection and you were excited about being with him when he got out of prison um as I started catching feelings I started looking on your comments and your I'll go through your likes and all kind of stuff and I see all kind of women so is that the oh cashier lip gloss before I show my man well look there's a lot of new information for us but the feelings that you had for him faded and the only reason you really stayed in touch is because you're hoping that he would pay you back the way he said he would yes I need my money and I waited long enough that's why I used to just pop up every now and then yeah to see if you got a job and if you could pay me badge 500 though yes all this over 500 yes I have a kid you know that 500 that's a lot to me but to know my situation okay you know mine you don't care I do care you can't tell your situation like I just got out of prison jump over yep jump over the moon with a spoon all right this is crazy yeah but you did have feelings from at some point he's Charming I did like is it gone that's all I wanted yeah [Music] I mean look I saw your face when when he came around the corner I mean he would find it all right well here goes nothing [Music] just now good name nice to meet you oh we're looking for Phillip he's around the back actually oh uh so if you guys want to go around the back he's that way okay okay cool okay thanks thanks we're just gonna go okay well I don't know you can I check it out we're getting further and further into the I'm like so anxious a little creeped out fill up what [Music] I'm ready to stay as close to the exit as possible is like so stressful sham okay I'm gonna stay with you girl this is weird what you got us my heart is like gonna jump out my chest like where is he well you always wanted a prince well here I am it's me your old friend Mike but what so you I'm Phillip I did the whole thing of course I did are you drunk what I told you I was gonna get you back girl I told you you guys you don't remember oh really you stole my boyfriend in Mexico I told you I said don't take my boyfriend and you took him anyway your evil and you're as black I told you I'd get you back girl who is this guy and you can't just throw away a friend that's been with you for 20 years yeah it's not fair this guy's nuts it's already wait wait hold on a second when were you guys friends like we we haven't spoken in two years literally two years I blocked this idiot on everything every single thing he's blocked I met you when you were 18. when you are a child and people were trying to take advantage of you in Hollywood I was there and I helped you the whole time and we were friends for 20 years and then we get into a fight you are a piece I'm having a hard time understanding so you so you had a boyfriend in Mexico and you guys went on a trip tonight that guy was not your boyfriend and you guys were not like in some kind of relationship just once and then he looked at me like a Hungry Wolf and came and he slept with me I didn't even stick with him I don't even know and you guys were good friends we were for a long time and he's such a mess is the problem you better get security I'm gonna kill this idiot oh if you need a break or if you need to take a I might I'm sorry hi what was your name my name is Mai Kai nice to meet you hello hi gorgeous well what inspired your decision to create this Instagram profile Reach Out I kept I kept on trying and trying like I tried a blonde surfer guy and she wouldn't answer and then I tried different and I thought well I know what she really likes what was what she really likes like an Arab Prince so that's why and what was the whole thing yesterday with this friend who was gonna buy her art that wasn't there was no truth to that yeah right okay yeah I wanna teach her a lesson I am not the only one that will tell you of her friends that she does this sort of thing all the time with different men constantly just don't take my man that's all but what's he your man well ish how did things go from friends to not talking for two years she laughed with my boyfriend or whatever I called her and I screamed at her and told her that she was evil Etc and so on when she was a and she got mad and then she blocked me I'm gonna go see how she's doing hey girl are you okay no I'm like so embarrassed I'm like so embarrassed he's the sick like he's an we were good friends it's true we were we were genuinely good friends for a long long time and then but the guy was not his boyfriend the guy was not his boyfriend oh God I only hear his book honestly I want to teach her a little lesson did I want it to go this far absolutely not I'm so angry and so like embarrassed like I I just don't know what to say you need to let him know that he actually hurt your feelings and this is not a key this is not funny okay I love how you're smiling like you guys wow you're not that funny first of all okay okay are we done what you're gonna beat me up on camera what girl I'm beating you up on camera when you for two months did what you did to me and then was like haha it's a joke well and I'm beating you up you're the victim here no I'm not a victim at all okay this is like sick like I feel like it's like twisted I'm ready to get this out yeah that's it right there all the windows open waiting for you to peek inside what TV what she left [Music] on a TV I gotta see there's no let's park thank you does it say anything inside no it just says I'm sorry don't hate me well is this just a random address it's looking like it somebody lives here we should definitely not there are lights on [Music] I'm more shocked that they actually left the TV I'm really blind about just seeing this TV when you pull up hi hi oh hi Neve hi Doris Doris all right nice to meet you so you're not Melissa or Megan are you who we've been communicating with are you the person that's been talking to John this whole time yeah we put we also obviously talked to some guy yeah that's a friend of mine Phil okay his name is Phil yeah I just kind of needed someone to help me out you know to kind of get in the middle of it okay before we get into questions and kind of clearly why don't you just kind of let us know what's up from your side of things that we can better understand how this all went down well um I've been in a like very vulnerable state I've been over a lot and like a lot of relationships so creating the mega account has caused me to let my wall down a little bit everything that I've told him though has been true other than the picture of course pictures definitely not me okay and kids I do have kids two kids I do and I have two boys yeah okay okay so that's all true that's all true um you're not 20 I'm not 27 but how old are you I I don't I really don't want to say that okay ever except you lied about your age right and I just feel like in this context yeah you kind of have to confess what you're actually oh my goodness because you lied I can I really am not comfortable sharing my age right now John I will definitely tell you my age when I'm comfortable what's the problem I mean I I have a lot of emotional damage from my exes and you could tell him he had went through and I went through a lot too you know so um yeah I I guess I also wanted to see you know if I looked like somebody else you know maybe thinner you know a little younger see what the reaction was going to be oh my God I'm gonna cry that's right I'm really sorry um it was like the response was different for me you know um sorry I'm breaking down here but why didn't you talk to him on the phone I think when I heard a little bit about him investigating into Megan I knew her voice was going to be different you know [Music] and the text messages that John got last night from Doris yes that was me oh that was you yeah and the other one Christine that's my friend Melissa right oh it's your friend a really good friends yeah okay so that's Melissa yeah who posted on your law you've really been lied to me for three months and I've never been lied to that long I'm I'm just blown right now but if you know that I've been through you shouldn't just tip online to me everything I have told you is true other than the physicality everything else you've told me is true yeah other than the physicality of it and I hope that you're not that shallow but we know that the Megan page is fake some guys can be shallowing but you can't that's kind of manipulative to say because you did lie to him so you can't you can't say I hope that you're on the vocello and because we have an emotional connection that's gonna tug on his heartstrings and make him think that he now not at all no it's not much for somebody to want somebody to tell them I'm telling the truth you know I just I I wasn't my intention was not to hurt you you know what I mean I I'm probably getting hurt more because I feel so bad you know can you wait a minute yeah should we go in the car or something [Music] I mean I I hope he can he handles it you know right I mean that's why I didn't want to like keep continuing this you know God I'm Gonna Keep crying ah that wasn't my plan to you know the Water Works to come you have to see it water yeah but they're in there well I mean look I asked Doris how she's feeling now and her responsible I'm concerned about it John's feeling I'm pretty pissed right now like she she just tried to me I almost fell forward too she tried to get me to feel sorry for her for lying to me for so long I don't get how that works like you knew I've been in a manipulous relationship before you just tried to play me again like I'm dumb I don't get how this is gonna uh like just just why like I had some real feelings there I mean if you think that I'm manipulative you really just tried to play me right there how did I play you I would like to know please I'm trying to act all sad and sweet and like you hurt more than me there's no way I've been the one that's been played that's what I'm saying I'm feeling for you I'm sad for you okay I could give a less damn about myself I don't know that's not what I heard a minute ago okay I think that you have been through a lot yes and I feel for you but I think with what you have been through you may not even be conscious of it but I think that the few things that you've said have been manipulative saying I care about you more than I care about myself is now feelings yeah and I'm a good person you have now put it in his mind that he needs to feel sorry for you because you don't care about yourself at all feel like his feelings are about can I see that or is it so manipulative too I'm just being open like I don't think I'm sorry I don't think that you're conscious of it but it is something to consider moving forward with how you communicate I would love for him to tell me where he's coming from though for real I would have told you I just wasted three months of my life I'm not gonna get back I'm just I didn't know that I was wasting your life I'm sorry I thought it was a good experience you know to be able to talk to someone to somebody yeah yeah but I didn't want to talk to a stranger that's the thing I was myself just not the picture for sure I want to know who I'm talking to yeah how are you just feeling right now you know when you go home or are you open to her messaging you oh no I'm pretty blown by all this I'm take all the time you need are you able to delete the Megan absolutely I could do it right now can we I just feel like it'd be good for everyone yes right yeah I'm gonna go get it I actually will be very happy to do that delete account there it is yeah I'm free I'm free yes thank you good job good message this is not something I normally do I'm letting you know that John it's like not if that makes it any better all right shall we it's done let's see what we got going on here you guys hanging here let me just scope it out creepy whose house is this uh no I've never seen no videos with nothing like this or anything are the lights on see of course every blind is closed hello hey oh who is that what's up how you doing nice to meet you man good to meet you too man Tremaine yeah that's him well come on out we're all not really sure what to expect but hi hey how you doing Erica okay here he is wow okay so what the hell is going on because you said you lived in Texas yesterday but you've told Erica you live here I own a house in um Lubbock Texas you know okay so that's my Hub that's where I go and La is basically where I come to work in fine so if it's been you talking to her the whole time which it has right yeah of course why haven't you been down to try to meet up or FaceTime you've been to New Orleans twice yeah it's been here well I didn't do the FaceTime because I don't know it's like I don't feel like we needed that we connected on levels far beyond that you know I mean and the reason why I haven't met you Erica is basically because um in my line of work I have to travel a lot I do a lot of set design also yeah but you came to New Orleans flight and you could have made that when I came to New Orleans I was actually with family family huh yeah I accidentally slipped up I wasn't I didn't want you to know I was out there because I knew you'd be upset because we've been trying to meet each other for the longest so I felt bad that I did but if you're trying to date me then you should want me to meet your family yeah but it's complicated because I just I just it's do you have kids kids aren't I don't have kids married no I'm not married why do you feel like I got kids in America we talked to your friend he goes by peanut Daniel damn yes that's my best friend they didn't want to like answer any questions about you but he said something at the end of our conversation he was like do you have questions for him ask him but he's he's got problems with his kids and the kids house see I was in a I was in a relationship um and the woman that I was with she had children how long were you in that relationship I was in a late relationship like three years three four years the relationship was you know it was Rocky man so when did you end your previous relationship probably like a little bit over a year ago so for like the first two years that you were talking Erica you know you were there in a relationship still in that damn yeah yeah yeah yeah during the time we were talking about meeting each other and doing all these things I was still kind of in that relationship and I was trying to get out of that relationship you know what I mean did you tell Eric about that did you did you guys ever talk about no I never I never told her that I didn't want to bring my drama into your life while you were going through what you were going through you know what I mean from her point of view I feel like that feels a little deceptive I mean deception deceiving lies you would have to say I haven't said anything I didn't tell her that hey I don't have her I'm not in a relationship you said no I just didn't feel like it was necessary at the time to express all of these all of my woes upon her while she was she was going through health issues and family emergencies and things of that nature and I just didn't want to pour that on her you know what I mean so look while you've been honest about most of the major details of your life there have been some elements of your story that you've told Erica that were a little bent we're still in a relationship when you met I don't have kids well I do I have a I have a son a son wait yeah obviously what what we we just asked you did you have a job no yes we ever had kids well bro it's the same thing no it's not it's not the same kids is more than one singular child well you guys were referring to Jermaine you guys were referring to the group but you do have I have a kid yeah of my own who is about to turn 17. wow from a previous relationship wow okay so you don't think that's something you should have told me you don't think that's something you should have told me you never asked me you never actually did you have a child yes you never straight up asked me if I have a win I've asked you multiple what did she says and you said no wow you don't have to tell everybody your business right off break but like after three years and somebody's asking you do you have kids withholding information is still lying all right so hold on so let's just get to the to the present okay you're here so the question now is what are your feelings for Erica I mean one thing that I wanted to tell you Eric is that over the the span that we've been talking to each other I've grown to like you a lot and I I want a a chance or a shot with you you know I mean I want to be able to see how that looks like you know you know how we talk you know it's we have a connection and yeah you don't do it with you yeah that's big that's not something small what [Music] I don't want to think the worst hey how's it going even Cami my name is Jacob and I'm 18. oh fresh about nine months ago I noticed this girl named Stephanie coming into my lives on Tick Tock she was hot and I was newly single she also seemed super smart and supportive I was always excited to talk to her and hear her voice she lives in New York City but I move around a lot so it wasn't a big deal recently though I realized I didn't know as much about her as I thought when I asked her if she had more social media she sent me a Facebook page that had a different last name than the one she had given me I asked her about it so far she hasn't explained Facebook account also seems like a ghost account there's nothing on it but a picture of me weird Stephanie has a unique career always underground she works in a bunker which makes communicating a challenge I don't want to doubt her or be too nosy she's been there for me and even though I'm only 18 I can see myself settling down with her let's talk about what we're dealing with here okay okay so we downloaded all the photos that you sent us we thought let's start there let's see if we can find out if these pictures that she sent both of her and of the bodies and the morgue if they're really who she says they are yeah so we searched this picture okay and when we ran the photo we found a hit it's a stock photo oh man okay so it exists on the internet where she clearly found this picture she did not take this photo so she lied about this picture I think it's safe to say there's a good chance she's not a mortician oh my God the next thing we did was we looked up her photo and we found a Janelle mayumi we went to her page and we found this this is Janelle she's a model in Miami the person you're talking to has been stealing This Girl's photos let's text Stephanie okay we landed when can we meet said I need a few hours why don't we go to our hotel oh boy we got an update I'm ready now you can come over okay okay and we're soon all right let's get in the car until uh Jacob to meet us in the car all right pull it around so what are we going to do when this girl doesn't come outside because that's Thanksgiving hi are you guys here filming an episode or oh yeah last year's catfish we did an episode in Spokane last year I'm trying to think around here around here I think his name is Isaac Isaac ah hi guys Isaac was the one with the hotel no the with the sorry hold on oh you work here yeah okay anyway that's it Isaac was the one who had the friend come on camera I just apologize yes yes the woman he had the woman here on camera who is that woman that was just talking to us that wasn't her talking that was me oh that was you talking I need evidence hi and how are you yeah the woman with the voice thing yes he lives so close by but we never met up with him because we just we did a virtual one because it was the piano oh my God he was talking to finance Brian Brian with a Y Brian was talking to to Stephanie Stephanie it was Stephanie it was oh my God son of a what it is all coming back it's Gotta Be Ryan was also on Tick Tock just like Jacobs both cute young guys catfishing young men and Isaac said that he knew how to turn him in the past I've catfished and I go for straight guys I've came clean to them and it ended up being a relationship well Isaac even though you've done it in the past and it's worked out for you that doesn't make it right you are perpetuating The Stereotype that gay guys are out to turn straight men and I got on his ass and here we are again we clearly didn't get through to him Jacob earlier said if it's a guy right I'm gonna knock him out we can't bring Jacob to that there's no way maybe we should go over there first make sure that whoever it is is cool and not gonna blow things up Jake yeah and then potentially tomorrow I'll bring Jacob to meet up yeah clearly because Isaac didn't he hat wasn't he also like sassy with Brian I see it differently we know you see it differently what is love Brian ever gets that wild hair in his ass and you know he wants to call Stephanie I'm still here but luckily Brian was chilled handled it very very wasn't in the room exactly tell him like Hey we're gonna go check this out oh hey guys oh God Isaac bring your ass on outside God come on you got you got your your Runway yeah here it is give us the show Isaac careful steady what's the look what's it giving it's giving wedding to to Jacob looks more like a funeral well thankfully he didn't come because I don't think that he needs to be a part of your circus well that's unfortunate because I like that we could definitely work something out there's no what in your eyes but in my eyes Isaac has he ever given you any indication that he would be interested in men no but that'd be a question I'd have to ask because we never it never got to that so you talked to him for nine months and you didn't figure that out no then maybe you should start dating as yourself and stop playing these games in your eyes it's probably going to be like a game but it's not a game to me I really do care about him and but Jacob's even even if Jacob Were Gay he's 18 you're like 40. he's too young for you you should be dating men men says who it's just weird it's inappropriate but it's not even just as ageless inappropriate everything that you've been doing is inappropriate we talked about this already this is how I am though and I know that people are not gonna you know accept certain things but they can always walk away they have the option right after that but they don't have the option for the nine months that they've been talking to you it's not cool to constantly be setting traps for people despite the clear identification that people make for their own sexuality you choose to trick them into these relationships and then be like hey it's actually been me the whole time you guys don't feed that you don't see what's behind the eyes of like the catfish we go through a lot of pain and we express ourselves in different ways I totally feel you on that but I'm going to tell you right now nobody gives about your pain when you come like this with the theatrics okay that's that sounds great but I was talking to me right well look I'm talking to you now so what I'm saying I was talking to you what I'm saying you're lucky that you're talking on the show at all again the problem is that I think you're a clown and I think that your behavior is clown Behavior dude even Cami my name is Tatiana I'm 19 and I'm a nursing student from Houston Texas age 10. recently I started dating an amazing guy named Gemini but don't worry I've actually met him in real life wait a second I feel so lucky when you say that you love me we've just gotten together and things are going well Gemini is sweet loving Charming handsome guy and I'm hoping this relationship is going to work out but there is one small issue his friend Miranda he met her seven years ago online and they've been talking on and off ever since Miranda comes back into his life every couple of months causes some drama and then disappears [Music] but she's helped him through some rough times [Music] unfortunately she's never able to video chat or meet in person I'm not writing in as a jealous person or anything but I don't like that she's recently popped back up into his life and is causing him stress I'm helping him reach out to you guys but I feel like he should take it from here please help Gemini get the answers he needs so he can move on thank you Tatiana clear so take us back about how you met Miranda and how we got to where we are now all right I have um this is a normal day I just woke up I just posted the status why taught girls wear heels what y'all trying to do whisper to God comment on it and then we just start talking I just need somebody to talk to I opened up more she helped me like keep my mind like almost committed suicide like that's how bad it was she was somebody I can run and talk to that's pretty much what I kept going back to it so your relationship with Miranda is a really meaningful very emotional part of your life and she's always been there and helped you out and kept you you know looking forward and and positive yeah to me the most interesting part of the story is your friend Danielle who you met in real life who's also friends with Miranda has Danielle ever met Miranda I used to dance together do they have photos together or anything like that no when you saw Danielle did you ask her about Miranda in person at that time Miranda was disappeared so and she didn't come up in the conversations so there's no guarantee that this Danielle on Facebook is the same Danielle that you've talked to in real life in person like I don't know hey here are all the Facebook accounts I have for the girls Miranda's page Danielle's page and here's Miranda's phone number can't wait to hear what you dig up let's just take Miranda's phone number and see what comes up Taylor wait is Taylor not the same name as Ashley Taylor's grandmother that died is that not the same person Ashley Taylor oh my God this bird if I have to see this girl again I swear on everything I'm acquitted this she's from Texas look it up oh my God you guys I think I have everyone's numbers in here wait and I told you how could you forget how could you forget I'm not doing this goodbye goodbye everyone it's been nice I'm not doing it you can't be kidding me I told you it's the same number I can't believe it wow he needs help right it's her I can't believe it's her are you told me she was gonna try and stop she said she was addicted to me she lied to me well so what do we do because this is a real thing for Gemini Gemini should meet her so that he can move on for his own sake how am I supposed to move is there a way to do that without giving her the stage again we lure her in right boom intervention yes we should find some people in her life that we could gather together who might be able to actually get through to her [Music] hey Miranda Val Gemini here she is Miranda AKA Danielle Danielle Ashley thanks for coming yeah get some closure to this whole thing well like why did you do in the first place like what is what was you looking for nothing from you well did you have feelings no no he's a great guy but he's just got little issues what you think I'm just saying like you're a great guy you're a great friend it happened it was a joke [Music] we came here today because I wanted to make amends I've done this so can I go now no I think he had questions I'm not answering him because right now it's gonna get heated between us you know I don't care no more are you selfish yourself he's upset obviously and I think it's Justified that's a wrap let me quickly just talk to Gemini I'm gonna take him inside the room please do and cool them off and then we'll come back out I'm not doing it this time if we gonna do this then I will go past your career I don't know what you're expecting we got as much from Bad conversations we're gonna get you guys can just be here yeah I'm good I just want to get this over I don't care no more all right I'm gonna go get her and I'll bring her in I'll be right back all right he's in there he's calm down why don't we go in there and we can try this again oh damn come on no no no no no no no they love you and care about you as you can see we brought some people here from your life that's an animation yes kind of you set me up well that's how interventions yeah let's have a seat so look call it whatever you want I care about you as a person who exists right now obviously you need to stop the catfishing but maybe before you can do that you need to realize that there are people specifically these two who you've known a long time who want you to be happy and be honest and live a life that's fulfilling and rewarding we're here we want to know how you feel and we want to be helpful if we can't I love you but I'm not going to sit here and applaud your boy because I know you're better than this the whole point of being on this show is for these people to get their answers not for you to come in here and make this a joke and act like this isn't hurting them and like you're just completely deep down okay with what you're doing to these people what about your real life not this person you're pretending to be all this effort you put in all these lies you can put it into finding yourself a real husband not one that you gotta lie about yeah the smile's gone now isn't it and that's coming from me your big sister who actually loves you and cares about the real you not this person you're pretending to be because it's not okay crazy I'll make sure is why why you can be yourself that's not that's not enough I'm not doing this it's not I'm not doing this did I trust the wrong person dear and even Cammy hi guys my name is Zay I'm a 23 year old female Barber living just outside of Tampa Florida I'm always walking through the same old place I mean a very delicate situation and could use your help first off I think I should tell you that I'm married [Music] that is already a bad sign yeah my wife and I have been together for three years and we were happy at one time but everything changed when we tied the knot a year ago I was in a lot of pain and I didn't have anyone I felt like a talk to until I met Jada I first saw Jada about five months ago when she slid into my DMs we started messaging Non-Stop and before I knew it I was falling for her because I was trying to hide things from my wife we kept things on DM Jada is amazing I've never met anyone like her before she lives on the edge and tries to do something new every day which is so dope to me she's also incredibly caring [Music] I've never had someone in my life who cared for me like that and now it's way too late two months into talking things had gotten serious between us and while I knew stepping out on a marriage wasn't okay I really wanted to meet Jada I offered to go visit her in Atlanta when she brought up my wife saying she didn't want to meet until that was resolved I bit the bullet and told my wife everything huh but she still couldn't meet me I know that having an emotional affair isn't okay and then I might not deserve a happy ending I'd really appreciate if you could look beyond what I've done and help me find the truth how you guys doing good at the time when Jada first reached out to you were you still willing to work on your marriage at first I was I talked to my wife about it like I hinted things like I'm not happy like and then she'll try to do things to kind of like make up for that it just I wasn't feeling it so did you tell Eris about this whole situation while in quarantine I did it was hard for me to you know lay everything on the table and be honest but I had to she took it really hard does Eris know that you're going through the process of trying to meet Jada she knows now that I love you I miss you I'm gonna be honest makes me feel like this could just be heiress I really don't think so like I said I could be wrong she could have been trying to bait you and maybe you took the bait and maybe now she's pissed you could see a little bit earlier there take your time no rush we'll wait I can't wait come come to the camera I'm sorry McCade huh [Music] somebody explained something what's going on [Music] it wasn't Jada that she was talking to clearly can you just kind of give us a little bit of background as to how you guys know each other um he wants to college okay and so you made the fake profile for Jada on Instagram yes why zay's very close friend to me and she was going through a lot of marriage I mean what are you really upset about exactly fact that it was a very close friend of mine somebody that I really did trust somebody that I did love uh he was like a he was a really good friend to me so you so you don't so you don't love me as a friend right now I don't the love is the last all that went out the window it did just I don't know if I'm like in the Twilight Zone or if I'm tripping or what but makeda you look very familiar I I think so have you been on the show before yes I have you catfish talisia right to explain that tell me what happened again I was basically Cafe Japan because she was going through like a hard time with her boyfriend I'm Max Aida I'm not a liar like I'm really not I just did it because it felt right at that moment clearly this is a pattern that you have formed all right so let me ask you a question let's just for the for a moment put put the past behind us and just talk about Zay how did it go from you trying to be a friend and creating this profile to encourage Zay to make a good decision to you guys flirting and and talking about starting a relationship I don't know it's just something I really have to tell you but I just don't know how to say it so tell us please we're we're it'll only help better understand the situation if you've let whatever it is that's weighing you down off your chest me as they slept together and she knows it's true what and I told you that was a mistake I don't want to bring that up was it really a mistake say uh what the what the is right is that true I mean like as far as what makeda that like I didn't really want that out wait so you slept with Michaela this was like three months ago though she came over one thing left another that's what happened but what I really have to tell you was that as well two days after I slept with you what okay to shut the up yes we got our issues but you talking crazy about my wife at the end of the day you know how I feel about that disrespectful you don't want to hear the truth I've been trying to hear the truth that's what all it is about are you dumb hey my name is Aaliyah I'm 23 and recently moved from California to Tennessee four years ago I met Paula online we just survived things Paula lived in Seattle but her work as a model was constantly bringing her to Los Angeles which wasn't far from where I live we quickly started talking about meeting up and I was looking forward to it as the months passed I realized that I was starting to develop feelings for Paula I've never been attracted to a woman before and our relationship eat it up but while we always said we were going to meet up Paula never called me whenever she got to LA about a year ago Paula disappeared they are with your emotions and our phone number stopped working this wasn't unusual for her sometimes she just shut everything down a few weeks ago I got a message from someone blaming to be Paula but before I pick up where we left off I think I need some more information there's something going on and it's time for me to find out what it is Aaliyah wait we got a text yes who is this hi Neve I heard you're trying to find Paula I have some information that I think is important for you to hear who is that who even has this number but how do they know we're trying to find Paula we never said Paula's name to Karina yesterday what if Paula Pops in here what if it is Paula well we're about to find out hi boo hi hey hi hello I told Josh she was real I'm not Paula foreign you're not Paula no okay we're very confused can you can what do you we got please explain my name is nayani I am the girl in the pictures however I am not Paula I'm not the one who's been running the accounts Paula actually reached out to me and told me you guys reached out to her and she was got a little frantic she asked if I would come and share the story as to how we all got here wait okay so hold on so after we spoke to Paula yesterday she reached out to you did you had did you know that there was a fake account of you yes wait what so basically in 2016 somebody reached out to me um 3dm informing me that there were several accounts depicting me to be somebody that I'm not and these people who reached out to me were friends of the girl who was catfishing I confronted her about what was going on and I asked her to take the accounts down and what is her name actually Paula no what is her name what the hell is going on her name is Raven Raven yes and did you assume after that conversation that she would stop yeah I really felt like that I got through to her that time however it's been seven years that this has been going on seven years yeah since I was since I was 14 I'm 22 now every time a an account would come up I I found a method to contact Instagram and give them my ID and they would just take it down but it would be down and then obviously a new one would just pop right back up let's just clear something up so all right so wait a second okay so look she should be the one doing this not you right it's so unfair of her to not only do what she's been doing to you but then to ask you to come forth and speak for her right I'd be willing to reach out to her and see what she says call her or text her whatever explain that we're eager to talk to her and give her an opportunity to sort of explain herself and then you could send her the zoom link okay oh I don't know I don't know what the hell is going on right now all right girl what the hell is going on I don't I don't do this so you really don't think Naomi is telling the truth why do you think that but I just feel like this is it how this was supposed to go what do you mean this was not how it was supposed to go Naomi just texted us he has spoken to Raven does the zoom link you sent still works yes it does we are in Zoom now okay so Naomi is sending the zoom link to Raven she could pop in at any minute get ready at this point I don't even know what's going on all of this is where I'm just weirded out right now so [Music] are you Raven hi um hi Raven how you doing I'm good how are you good we're all kind of just catching up and finding out a lot of new information and just want to give you a chance to kind of introduce yourself um and then tell the story however you feel best reflects the truth okay my name is Raven um I'm from Seattle which is how I originally came across neoni's pictures there was multiple accounts a lot of them got deleted the most people that I've talked to like on the accounts would be Paula and how many people were you talking to I was talking to a lot of people like 800 people all together what I'm kind of confused right now because yeah I'm confused I started to see that when I was someone else I was getting more attention than I was as me and so I started to go with that I know that this sounds crazy but like it was literally like an addiction sometimes what I would do is create mutual friends so that people would think that it was a real account this person knew people in my life I was behind the Jordan account um that Alia had reached out to first of all I'm sorry I really did like you I think that you're a really good person I've always thought that you were a very beautiful person um all I want to do is come clean and come forward with the truth yeah and I think that you deserve that go ahead if you have something you want to say well I just I just just us yeah sure I mean if that's okay with you Raven Aaliyah will check in with you for a minute Raven will bring you back on and we can finish the conversation oh real quick so we can get some stuff out the way this girl is sitting here continuing to lie everything I've told you guys is the truth about me and Paula's relationship we've never FaceTime we have been talking for that period of time everything is real but the reason why I'm so blown out of the water and Confused the reason I did believe Paula was the girl in The Adventures it's because Paula she hit me up she still had me convinced she was a real person she was like let's get on this TV show what it was gonna be like a I see you you see me it's a happy ending type of episode whoa that's why it's weird now and it's scared me I was down because I really believe Paula was a real person that's why when she popped up on the screen I really thought that she just changed our whole story and was going her own Direction with it and it was making me mad when Naomi came on yes wait did you but did you already know who Raven was no she thought she was meeting Paula genuinely that's why she was so sure because Paula told her like it's gonna be a good it's gonna be a happy ending so it doesn't really matter but it'll be good so Raven in a unbelievably selfish and also additionally like deceptive moves Twisted convince you to write in and tricks you into coming on the show by telling you that it was just really her that you guys were gonna have a happy ending yeah so she came up with this whole plan and you said yes because you thought it was really just Paula but actually the girl in the pictures was nayani I do want to apologize though when the plan was told to me it was something super simple quick and it wasn't really a lie on my head so I was like okay that's fine because she was Paula like she was still acting like Paula this whole with me she catfished you she played you out that's what she did yeah and though it's messed up what you did you genuinely believed that you were gonna be able to finally meet this person by any means necessary and although it's not something that we encourage I understand it but she is a manipulator she has been doing this since she was a teenager the worst part is like she even thought she could play you like that play the show and then get nayani the girl she's been playing the longest to do her dirty work and and tell her story so she wouldn't even have to she could just like sit back obviously we need to call out Raven obviously because I'm not We're not gonna let her get away with I want to be messy about both I mean forget what she's done to you now it's personal I mean now she's playing us and I'm not about to let that happen on my show so I think we should bring her back in [Music] and we'll just confront her and then say our goodbyes here she comes but who wants to start okay we're all back okay so I blew up our spot so we are exposed I told them me and you have spoke behind the scenes I wouldn't have done this had I known that you were not going to end up being the person you swore we were you almost got the other girl cussed out because I thought she was Paula coming up with a new plan out of nowhere and not telling me so she was about to get cussed out but then I had to think about it like baby that's really not Paula I'm a weirded out by all this still kind of disappointed in myself that I even thought this was a good idea to do because now I'm on TV looking stupid so I'm trying to like just keep my composure because we're on TV I don't want to say something I can't take back but after three and a half years lying you're not gonna get a friendship from me I'ma just say that now now so that's it I understand my Powers put into your position be the same way I'm not trying to embarrass anybody but you did but I'm not trying to and nor was that my intention dear Neve and Candy my name is Aaliyah and I don't know if I'm being paranoid or if my sister Haley is being Reckless about a year ago she met a woman online named Brittany from DC it hit it off but we're both in relationships they weren't willing to walk away about a month ago they picked up exactly where they left off and our head over heels for each other I was happy for my sister until she dropped another bombshell apparently she's never met or facetimed with this woman she's booked a flight to DC next week wow and get this Haley also went to DC earlier this summer and this Brittany girl ghosted her catfish going catfish hoping you guys can get through to her sincerely so she said hey love meet me at tilghan Park tomorrow around 11. it's about 10 to 15 minutes from your hotel text her back and say hey we're on our way to the park okay see you soon I mean it sort of ignores her last text which I think is good yeah she said okay oh let's head to the park before she gets cold feet all right which way are we going left somebody uh out here it says she's got something to say to me Emma says there's somebody out there oh looking for you what is it oh oh my God is that Lily pass Lily that's it right that is it how would she know that we're at this hotel were you told I felt great Britney I'll talk to her hi Lily yes what's up I just have maybe not so good news to tell you okay so the person that you guys think you're gonna go meet today is not gonna be there you are supposed to be friends with the real Britney yes Haley talking to the real Brittany well because otherwise how do you know who Haley's talking to if it's not your friend we put the pieces together over the last few days and figured out who Haley is talking to yes so they're just not going to be there today this is really embarrassing for Brittany and her family so it's someone close to Brittany yeah wow so wait so hi hi good to meet you in person this is Haley hi you're Lily yes yes the person you've been talking to who you think you're going to go meet with today is not going to be there so it sounds like someone has been pretending to be Brittany talking to you you and Brittany were unaware of that but then when we started asking questions they realized it must be this person who I'm guessing is part of or close to the family and now they're hoping to avoid revealing that because they don't want to make it a bigger thing I guess that am I getting that right so I just don't get why Brittany couldn't just tell us that she just she was embarrassed her family was embarrassed so and Brittany doesn't want to just help say anything cleric clear this up the family Brittany they don't really want any parts of it and I appreciate that but you I'm sure then also appreciate that for us like we don't know if that's true the problem is like you could be saying that because Brittany is the one who's been talking to her and doesn't want to get in trouble with the girl she's sort of dating how do we know that this isn't also some sort of strange like not actually what's going on story okay do you want me to try to get in contact with Brittany at the very least it would be nice to hear from her if she is or is not talking Haley okay so I guess I'll go with a quick phone call and get back to you okay all right all right well yeah we'll just hang out and let us know why would everybody come it's making me feel like she's the one I was texting you think Lily's one that you've been texting with because who else would know that I'm here well there's her story which is a little which is makes sense but it's the first is that they didn't realize there was a fake I don't know yeah it's hard but so then so then you talk to the person who actually is behind all of this and they said oh by the way they're staying at the Hampton Inn Waldorf like they well oh she just what holy what the hell's going on here I feel like it's right well try maybe to text I thought it was somebody wanting a picture or something well that's what I kind of thought and when I saw her she looked familiar Britney text and said hey I'm almost to the park let's just go and see don't say nothing back the person come on trying to me well maybe she's gonna maybe it's her did she just text she just she's just she's running maybe let's go and find really let's just go and find out who's that I can't see that far what the hell that's Brittany what's up hey hey [Music] I'm so confused hi hi Neve Brittany nice to meet you Cammy nice to meet you hey hey how you doing we're confused what do you mean but maybe you don't know what's been going on somehow there's a situation so has have you been talking to her the whole time yes Haley yeah yeah it's been you texting her yes yes okay but if that's true then why haven't you facetimed with her I don't do long distance relationships so um if I FaceTime with her and make a new relationship or you know what we have a bit too real for me I'm scared I'm scared of it who's Lily Lily's my best friend okay we spoke to her spoke to Lily yeah we had a FaceTime call with her in the middle two days ago she didn't tell you yeah I guess not no did you tell Lily you were meeting us today yeah I told her like I'm talking to this girl I'm gonna meet up with her didn't think anything of it Lily just met us at our hotel and she said that it wasn't you and that it was some embarrassing situation that we should just leave it alone actually really pissed off um because it's just like weird Behavior it's not something like I'm no like I'd know her to do yeah you know so it's weird it looks like Lily made up some weird nonsense and made an effort to kind of try and mess this up right and almost did honestly I don't want your friendship with Lily to end over this I hope you guys can work it out she's got to respect boundaries my name is Nick [Music] 25 and I live about an hour outside of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania I'm in an odd situation and I'm hoping you can help me out a little over a month ago I met a guy named England on a gay dating app when we started talking I got excited he didn't have a profile picture but we exchanged numbers and started texting right away they sent me a photo and I was all in he said he lived in the area and we're looking for a serious relationship which is exactly what I'm looking for [Music] made plans to meet a week later but when the time came he ghosted oh boy he eventually called me and said he was visiting a former client in DC because she was lonely as far as I know he cleanses so this made no sense to me Queen's house was escort when I asked if he was some kind of sugar baby he said he wasn't the whole conversation was super weird since he's come back we still haven't met or video chatted to be something he's hiding hoping for the best but it burned before hope you can help me figure this out thanks Nick you're a guy who says he learned a lesson about not rushing into things yes you meet a guy on Grindr who has no name or profile picture and after two months like texting you're already thinking this is a serious relationship seems like you moved a little fast so here if I can explain it me personally like I don't I feel like I'm wrong if I'm talking to multiple guys at once did you talk about being exclusive yeah we did so I focus on England and I just want to see if this is going to work out if you understand where I'm coming from no I do I'm a Serial monogamous but hold on a second there's a difference between being a monogamist and and being played because he still won't meet we were talking about meeting up like having a little date Why didn't it happen well he just ghosted me for a couple days he called me to tell me like crazy story why he ghosted me he said he had to go visit a former client in DC but it's weird to me because she's a 60 year old lady and I asked like what do you do when you go there and he said we drink wine together and to me personally like if she was a former client of yours I don't think you should be having this strange friendship where you drink wine with her and his clients are all like elderly women and I asked him I said well are you a sugar baby like are you cleaning her house and your underwear or something like that it's about the question he's like he's like don't say that out loud that's strange but um it's a lot sure but like either he's not who he says he is or he's there's something he's not telling me this is his Facebook page robust and sort of legit no he doesn't have a lot of interaction like he only has pictures of himself and it feels Hollow what about any other social media doesn't have any other social media why haven't you facetimed or video chatted I never asked him but at the same time he never asked me to face anything okay show us his Facebook page oh we've got chocolate [Laughter] okay this is a friendly spot he's always worried about how he looks he tells me and I tell him like you don't have to be worried like I understand self-confidence issues because I have them too not a lot of likes though that's what I was wondering too the interactions you think there would be a little more interaction oh someone just got here the car has pulled up hey [Music] what's up man good to meet you we spoke earlier uh briefly what are you doing here all right it's him he's here and he's willing to uh talk [Music] anyway what's up how's it going good how are you good you mad I just I this is a lot yeah me nice to meet you I did Catfish you and I apologize this is a lot I mean I was just in West Virginia I came here just to do an emergency cleaning and it's now it's all that we were supposed to like meet like when we first started talking you said you were looking for something long-term and I said I was looking for something long-term and I asked you before I message you and asked if you were still interested and you just don't say anything I am interested I mean there's just a lot going on I mean I have a lot going on with my business and you know there may be something that you don't know too as well there is something I don't know isn't there yeah I mean I've I mean I've been talking to someone else too like also like just juggling like two people it's a you you are sort of in another relationship yeah like I'm taught I mean like I've been I've been talking to somebody like his name's TJ and we've been talking to him before like you know started talking to Nick and I told I told you about this person before you know we started talking I was just your ex that you're talking about yeah so he was not actually your actor you're still seeing him long story short we just wanted to finally get you guys to meet and then just talk to you and find out what was up and if he should be hoping to meet up with you and were you serious when you told him that you were looking for some like a long-term relationship or was that just a lie I mean it may be just to say it just just to say it but I wasn't like you know I wanted to at least meet him and like be friends [Music] will choose your words carefully next time yeah I guess so it's so much aggravation and you always just wanting my time whenever I I don't know I always went no I mean I'm busy so like you know if I have time and I and if I'm available to hang out with you then I can make it how are you feeling what are you thinking I just need answers from like real real answers like what his real intention is because yesterday we did talk on the phone last night yes wow wait wait wait let it go down totally opposite of how he was yesterday he called me and like he just started talking sexual right away and I'm just like he's like which totally contradicts how he acted when I met him in person it didn't kind of get a little intense wait did you guys then start talking like yeah he got me a little like excited wait Nicholas well he brought it on first you know yeah I know I get it but like I said I really didn't know what to do I was like so when you first spoke on the phone last night he was like we should meet up no he started talking sexual and then after I was like okay well I don't want to do that right away but can we at least go on a date first before you know or a couple dates just so I can get to know you a little more and he said he was fine with that but he also told me that he said he doesn't develop feelings through talking how does he do sex good night what the only way he can develop feelings manipulative yeah gaslighting exactly that's crazy he wants to try to play you in public but in private he wants to be able to have whatever he wants to have all this guy wants is to have sex with you oh he just texted what do you say I'm parking and coming in oh wow that was fast hello hey how's it going hey there ah good afternoon how's it going all right all right good to see you come on in good seat well listen thank you for joining us today uh but mainly what we want to do is give you both a chance say whatever it is you need to say hopefully listen to each other so last time on the phone what did you mean yesterday when you told me that to form a relationship like something long-term you don't get Feelings by just talking to someone you have to have sex with them too is that well I didn't I mean I I didn't mean it by that I mean I don't know what did I actually say that yeah okay those were your exact words um I mean it's like I'm not really look sexual feelings are going to come you know with you know if you're talking to somebody for a long time maybe I don't know but you know I don't know everyone thinks differently look you guys had a chat yesterday but I wanted to know from your perspective like what the context of that conversation was just to talk to him just to like hear just like you know kind of where he's at just you know even if he does want to continue being a friend or you know a friend that has benefits you know that may come with it here's what I think England I think Nick was confused based off of how you were reacting and it seemed like you weren't really interested and then last night he gets called from you and you got sexual with him right away you see how that is confusing how it's contradictory when you're saying one thing in person and then behind the scenes it's like you kind of dissed him in public okay like we're saying like we can be friends okay we're gonna try to have a Friends with Benefits maybe relationship okay here's the thing though Nick may not want that right now Nick is a mess he is emotionally confused he's had a very unfortunate sequence of events in his life who've left him damaged and hurt and very vulnerable especially when it comes to love and relationships you're a bit older you're a bit more mature you're more experienced but you're also a private somewhat reserved and mysterious person and that combination is leaving his heart Twisted in his stomach and not he has no idea what to do and I think you need to understand that every little thing that you think you're saying to him you're spinning him around whether you mean to or not like a top and it's hard I'm not trying to there's nothing wrong with you expressing what it is that you want and what is it you don't want what is it you're ready for and what you're not but I need for you to make it Crystal Clear how you want to move forward well I'm I don't want to hurt your feelings but we should just stop talking to each other then hey Neve and Candy I'm Victoria she actually said Cami and Neve but you know what you're right I somehow saw that if I read that wrong hey Cami and Eve I'm Victoria I'm 24 years old and from Austin Texas I've been in a relationship with a guy named Anthony since I was 16. I know what you're thinking but he's really great he's 29 a model and lives in Los Angeles he was my first online friend and boyfriend he's seen me grow up and has helped me through all my first [Music] she's been there for me all these years we talk a lot he's everything I want in a guy it's funny he has his stuff together and he's fine as hell her but in the eight years I've known him we have never had a FaceTime or even a phone conversation and recently when I pressed him on it we got into a fight and he blocked me take us back and tell us yeah so taking it all the way back I was 16 I was still in high school he randomly added me on Snapchat from there we just started talking and are you sending photos to each other he sent me one picture on Snapchat on Snapchat and then he was like send me pics back like so it just kind of turned into me sending pictures back and then him talking to me in a romantic way never messaged him on Instagram does he have an Instagram or yeah I found it by myself when you first were talking how do you know it was his Instagram well it was his first and last name and did you follow his Instagram I was like you're not following me I'm not gonna follow you so still talking to him when I'm 16 17 but when I was 18. I got my first real life boyfriend that was a problem cussed me out so I just blocked him blocked his number well on the Snapchat oh still only on Snapchat so he never had his phone number not until I turned 21. the Snapchat was his Snapchat his full name no it was Master and his Instagram was Master too no so I knew his first and last name because he gave it to me Anthony Faust so I got my boyfriend 18 and then my relationship lasted until I was 21 and that's when he came back so you guys start talking you get his number yeah and then his number since then has changed every year his number has changed every year yes does he ever say why and would you text him on these numbers yeah but you never talk so what's happened in the last few years then it's progressed into US kind of like risque talking and risque photos but also he's there for me when I need him like he was there when I got my first apartment he was there when I got my first car my first like grown-up job like all those firsts it's nice to have somebody like that yeah and also he has it together like he has a job he's always traveling like things like that I'm looking for so you believe Anthony is exactly what he says yeah might trust him with my feelings why do you trust him what could he possibly be lying about people know that you've got this friend Anthony that you talked to um I mean I try to tell like my friends and then they were kind of like that's weird but my friend Kaya she knows like she's known since I was 16 to now so she knows everything she knows all the details from start to finish yeah but she's the only one yeah what's her deal does she have a man she has a girlfriend yeah that's a very presumptuous of you well I was trying to get to whether or not she might be interested in women um because maybe it's your friend no we've been friends since the second grade so I don't think like she would randomly one day I'm 16 just randomly just added me yeah oh [Music] name Ashanti Ashanti hi so come on out hi do you know hey this person yes okay his girlfriend yes oh okay is Kaya here right here right now does but Kaya knows um this kind over here no do you know why we're here I'm Anthony well word how's that even possible because she's been talking to Anthony for eight years yeah that hasn't been you the whole time it has been how I found your Snapchat on one of my friends Snapchat he tagged you in a post and I added you from there eight years ago yeah so just a total random coincidence a friend of yours posted about her Snapchat you saw it and added her yeah as Anthony yeah how then is it possible that it six years later you would meet her childhood best friend and ended up going out with her she posted Caillou on her Snapchat and that's how I met Kaya wow okay so you met Taya because you had been catfishing her as Anthony yeah so Kaya doesn't know that you've weirdly been in a relationship with her best friend longer than you've been dating her that you've still been talking to Victoria even while you've been in a relationship with Kaya I don't know oh my God this is crazy I'm sorry I'm in shock this is ridiculous okay so do you actively have feelings for Victoria in the beginning yeah but you know it never it never went there but it did get sexual I mean you did ask her for titty pics I mean yeah while in a relationship with Kaya her best friend where's kayab right because I want to call her oh sorry this is crazy it's not that I don't care I mean but it is happening the way it's happening so when you started dating Kaya why didn't you stop talking to her as Anthony but when I really started talking to Kaya we weren't having that many conversations so I was like you know maybe it'll just die down but but it but it didn't yeah and what about when you messaged the real Anthony to scare him off what was that about I just I don't I don't know obviously you didn't want us to be involved because then that would blow up I was hoping I really didn't want it to go this way you know it's giving you thought me and Kyle were stupid well I mean I didn't really have to do much for you to not do more to meet me all this time okay so okay if you really want to go there you kind of are a little a little dumb come on now like I'm thinking I'm talking to a fine man like don't do me but instead it was a fine start what I mean don't do me but you know she's not into it you're dating my friend I'm saying I'm I'm just saying well at the end of the day right so you are attracted to Victoria yeah oh oh is that Kaya yeah hey hey girl hey guys and this is Tammy um do you have any idea what is going on right now no it's cold okay well I wish we could just say we were here to visit and say hello because we're in town but you you know what why we came to North Carolina right yes yeah Victoria is trying to figure out who's Skye Anthony is Right weirdly and that investigation if you will let us hear take it away I'm Anthony all right because I am I'm Anthony for the last eight years how did you find Victoria how did you find me um Victoria somebody posted her somebody on my Snapchat posted her Snapchat a couple years down the line she supposed to do I added you as myself and you've just been not saying anything in my face still talk to Victoria and haven't mentioned it well I guess we know who it is um I gotta loss for words right now so are we I didn't say yeah you know at least like want to say sorry like [Music] I'm not forcing you you don't have to but no yes I I know that oh okay I'm sorry though keep it it's always something oh this isn't the first time this is the first time but we've had other problems so it's not the first time they're like I've had stupid on my forehead it's just ballsy it's crazy to care I don't know I don't know how you're even looking your girlfriend in the eye right now or her best friend but you don't seem to be that worried I didn't mean for it to happen this way but it is happening this way so I'm I'm kind of soaking it in like everybody else you know here's an email from Caitlin hey neven Cami I'm in a bit of a dilemma in a team chat room site 12 years ago and just by conversation are relationships skyrocketed We messaged all the time and started talking on the phone for hours we were obsessed with each other and as we got older we flirted more and more and started having feelings for each other [Music] currently I'm 23 and I live in Indiana he's 22 and lives in Orlando Florida so I guess it makes sense that it would be hard to me but after being on and off for all these years we are now most definitely on he's the constant in my life my first online friend and my ideal man he understands me and now that we are older I'm ready to meet the love of my life you know but we've tried to meet up twice before both times I flew to Florida only to be stood up not to mention I can't understand why he doesn't want to FaceTime or recently even talk on the phone it leaves me feeling uneasy about who he really is same sis take us back the whole story Okay so each other as far as like the simple stuff and then we've really got deep into it so okay so you've been in the chat room and then what you switched over to kick then I ended up getting my own phone and it turned into phone calls late at night and how would you describe the way Jordan sounds well you know puberty it was the little kid voice so it sounded like a female I won't laugh did you ever feel like he was your boyfriend at a point we were dating around like freshman year we called each other boyfriend and girlfriend and then since then we were on and off but every single time y'all every single time divide never looks it was like you just pick up where we left off wait a second so okay so you met in the chat room and then you said you guys switched over to kick when you were in high school did you guys it was worked on other social media well we connected on Snapchat but he never really posted himself he was posting quotes what do you know about him what does he do like what's his job yeah tell us about Jordan he said he was doing construction at the time and then he ended up quitting his job and started focusing on stocks so when you were dating your ex and you got pregnant how was that for you to have to tell George um I was scared I didn't want to lose the relationship we had you know and when I finally just said forget it I'm gonna just tell him he was more excited than me he was happy for me then the twins came that's when I'm like oh I'm gonna lose him this time because what you know when I told him about the twins when I tell you he made me start accepting it it was amazing how he helped me get through the whole situation everything happens for a reason that's what he told me do you feel like you love Jordan yeah have you guys said that you love each other yes you have he's actually was the first to say it I just feel like he understands me more than any man that I ever dealt with he's every single thing I want in America oh hello there come on hi who is this guy you gotta be kidding me just casually sits down this isn't it would give away just a hold on a second it can't be this simple no no no no no no okay Jordan that's you right I it's me completely me so Hello nice to meet you guys nice to meet you hello um so can you explain why why it took this long to meet up and why we are even involved when it doesn't seem that we need to be uh honestly I would say over the last what over the last decade um a lot of growth a lot of growth between me and K and I would say that I never really had enough time you know um I've been busy focusing on myself in regards to investments in stocks so it's really my goal to like make sure that I have Financial Freedom and I never had time to balance a relationship and then try to go after my goals as well it just didn't mix up as well together okay uh so so you're saying we didn't link because of your job right that would be correct due to you know trying to get to the next step in finances for sure okay I'm trying to get to the next step and finances as well but I'm still sitting here trying to make time for you so um I would say in regards to like pursuing things I feel like you know we've only gone so far mainly because we haven't seen each other okay and I think when we called you earlier it sounded like a girl answered the phone yeah that's just my friend okay does that something you do often have what a friend answer the phone I was just curious in this case it was a woman well I mean at the time she picked up the phone so there's not much to say it's not something that's regular but if she's gonna answer your phone and then I come on and say hey is Jordan there wouldn't the next thing you'd say be yeah hold on or who's calling or we said Jordan or Tosh right so if you would probably know you by either name and still hung up the phone so I mean I'm not sure when you guys called but at the time I just was not there that's the best way to explain it I want you to be real with me I feel like I've been real but in certain areas I haven't been transparent with you yeah that sounds like you've had a relationship with Kalyn for 12 years it's okay to tell her the truth about what's been going on so let me talk you done no we're not done until you tell us who that girl on the phone really was I guess you could say the girl who answered the phone is like my girlfriend finally the truth comes out you understand how like all of this sounds like it sounds really bad it wouldn't sound bad if you just told me straight up when were you gonna tell her that you had a girlfriend oh uh well honestly we just made things official maybe like a month ago so I mean I probably wasn't gonna say anything for some time honestly like so you got time is what you're saying nah I don't have time you're so smart then you sound so dumb the vibe you're giving off right now is like hey you know I've been busy sorry I'm just I work so hard you know I gotta get that money but like yeah but even if that's true it still makes you sound like an because you're the one who has made it seem as though you're very interested in her and wanted more of a relationship but I guess you didn't really ever think you were going to meet up with her anyway so it was just sort of fine so I'm so happy that you said that last point because that goes for most people that I meet in the virtual world so with that being said how many other people are you talking to the way that you're talking to Kalyn uh that's tough to say honestly like maybe three [Music] you have four relationships going on right now I'm sorry but the numbers sound so misconstrued I would say I think it's basic math sounds basic to me three plus one equals four hmm [Music] hate even Cami my name is Stephanie I'm a single mom to twin boys and I live in Kissimmee Florida I've been talking to a guy named Dan eat from San Fran for almost 10 years he's not like the other guys I have been into Danny is sweet loving and supportive I can't get him off my mind but for nearly a decade we've been on and off and as soon as things start to get serious he goes ghost [Music] but right when I entertain a new relationship Danny comes back Full Throttle and I end up breaking things off with whoever I'm dating because I just don't like them as much as him that literally just happened again and I don't know what to do after all these years we still haven't met or even video chat good night but wait wait I'm at a point now where I'm not sure what to believe anymore Danny says he wants to be with me and I think I am ready to be with him too but I need stability for me and my kids so it's either now or never your story goes all the way back to 2010. exactly and at that time I was really into modeling there was a guy Danny he was a photographer I wanted to work with him first I kept the professionals like I want to work with you I want to like do content and he was like really into it and then when I told him how old I was he was like no I'm not doing it was he in Florida yeah he was out in Miami at that time yeah so it sounds like he was just sort of being smart and responsible and said no thanks but how did that then turn into a 10-year Romance we like liked each other's stuff we commented it was just like we kept it very social right and then I turned 18 and I was like nothing stopping me I like humor and he's really funny so we would talk to each other all the time and it just started getting growing from there eventually like later on we spoke about meeting but he had moved to San Francisco okay so we started planning like I was planning to go to San Francisco to stay there be with him he was like really into it he wanted to be together he wanted me to like meet his family he wanted to start a family oh he was actually excited but then he just went ghost for like two weeks so what did you say when he came back after two weeks of ghosting that's when I become this crazy Latino like I asked him I was like where have you been like what happened is there a problem and he was like no he's blaming the time difference it was the fact that he's worked too much or that he's working late or that he's not stable because he lives with roommates and then the same stuff happened he's there he went ghost it's a cycle Hi how are you bye the same thing always what's the longest you guys have ever gone just without talking like not talking at all like a couple months I've tried to like move on or like with any other relationship he's still in the back of my mind like there's something about him that I just like I can't let it go deep oh hey hey [Applause] what the there he is hey it's you I don't understand man what what what's going on I just you know I just don't like face timing I don't like talking on the phone like for example the other day my mother screamed at me because I haven't called her in four weeks and you know like it's it's just one of my things I don't know well yeah but that's cool it's been 10 years the reality is I work a lot I don't really have time like in the little time that I do have like I barely can even use it for myself so it's hard to like pull somebody I had to FaceTime once I don't know I feel like you're hiding something I'm I'm not hiding anything Stephanie told us that over these last 10 years you guys have talked about her flying out there you had a plan she even bought a ticket and then you disappeared so what was that about the truth is that I was ashamed of my living situation um I was ashamed of where I currently live it's not a great neighborhood I'm tired of the same answers of the same to me it's excuses I mean I don't I don't see it as excuses um well here's my thing I'm just curious to know from your side what this whole situation means to you [Music] I I don't really know to be honest so I think the reality is that even after 10 years it's just always been on and off it just seems like we always argue about dumb stuff like our conversation the other day you know and what conversation was that she texted me at around like five something in the morning her text message woke me up I couldn't go back to sleep and I sent her a text saying please try not to text me at 5am and uh she flipped out on me and she has a tendency to always flip out on me all the time so I'm the bad one no you're not you're not the bad guy so 10 years of something is going to be defined over a stupid ass argument that's how it's always been the whole 10 years has always been like that I don't like that like I I feel that when that happens like I don't really need to be doing this so why do you keep doing it because I mean because like I said you've always been a constant in my whole life as like you know a friend friend so like I mean I would love to like a friend I feel like you told your truth and you said what you actually had to say and you meant it so why am I why am I gonna keep trying I mean it's not like I don't have feelings for you I definitely do I have a friend you know maybe that was just a wrong choice of words I shouldn't have said it like that I know all this is my fault and I picked it up so for you to be upset you have every right to be and I admit that and things that we've talked about like plans and stuff like that is stuff that I've truly wanted and you know there was opportunity you coming out here and you know I I that up I didn't have you come out here and you know I was I was wrong in that and I admit it and I apologize I'm sorry I think if we actually try to actually talk like on the phone as opposed to text all the time I think that it would definitely help out our situation and improve things I don't know I just feel like I've been strung along for so long that for me to open up to somebody it's hard yeah as do I so I I get it that's been a long time and you know I personally don't think that we've actually ever really really had a chance to you know explore this I think that there is potential to have something but is it really what you want though like do you really want to see where things could go with her because you guys live on opposite ends of the country I'm sure that you have people local that you could talk to Stephanie I'm sure has people local that she could talk to I mean there's obviously a reason why we keep coming back into communication with each other it always seems to be that whenever I'm feeling down or whenever I'm going through something you have a sense of it and you always reach out to me at the perfect time and little do you know you have always been there for me at times that I needed somebody do you have anyone else that's close to you in your life Danny that you feel like you can confide in the way that you talk to Stephanie oh I did with my best friend but [Music] you heard about that and I'm really I'm sorry for your loss yeah so I think it's even more reason to know like when you have somebody in your life that's there for you you gotta take advantage of that yeah I didn't I didn't learn that until you know my friend passed so well that's why I would love to have another opportunity to show you who I really am but your words so until I see action then I'll start believing fair enough [Music] hi Navy cami my name is Tam I live in Houston Texas I'm 27 and I live with my older sister Tay ham and Tay oh I'm writing because she's convinced I'm being catfished and I recently started to think she might be right I met a woman named germina about two years ago in August of 2018 on Plenty of Fish [Music] I was living in Prairie View and she was 45 minutes away in Houston we connected immediately and ended up being together for six months during that time I tried to meet up with her she would always go straight [Music] I couldn't get past that so I ended things smart Jamina was Furious and blocked me on everything I wanted to move on but no matter what I did I couldn't forget her a little while ago I begged my sister to message Jamina for me all my accounts were blocked so this was the only way I could contact her Tay finally agreed and when she reached out jermina said we could talk things seem to be going well until I recently got an anonymous text message from someone claiming to be jamina's girlfriend she said I needed to back off from Jamina or she'd beat me up I thought Jamina was the love of my life but now I don't know what to believe I need serious help thank you well obviously we got your email and we're not really sure what to make of all of it can you just kind of take us back to the beginning okay um I had just got out of a six-year relationship wow I was living in a small college town in preview it was born so all my friends was like you know I was trying to start dating again so I got on POF and I just happened to run across her profile I thought she was cute and I just did the little hey there thing yeah and she brought me back and we was just talking or whatever and then she gave me her number but when she first gave me her number she was kind of mean because at the time my phone was like messed up completely so I was actually texting her from the text free app and she was coming at me out of pocket like why are you texting me off this fake stuff I don't do the fake stuff she thought you were a catfish yeah and she was like um we must FaceTime did you FaceTime she did just try to FaceTime me but I didn't used to answer oh my God I was just I was so nervous damn you sound like the catfish right now honestly I was so nervous I didn't know what to say I had that text free app and I want to answer FaceTime did your car break down no I I eventually tried to FaceTime her but she she didn't answer interesting well what do you know about Jamina um she said she was a registered nurse and she said she did real estate on the side and she said she had two kids she told me about her sister and she told me she had a brother were you able to see any of them on social media no I did ask her about like social media but she was saying like oh me and my best friend were doing like this social media cleanse where we're not getting on our social media and at that time it was cool with me because when we talked on the phone we ended up just like instantly clicking like we ended up falling asleep on the phone from the first day literally you used to take we was on the phone eight hours ten hours I could talk to her about anything we was just there for each other [Music] so we but yesterday like became soul mates like and I feel like she helped me too with like my sexuality even though my ex was a girl we didn't even hold hands in public that's not something that I was just very open like with Jim meaning I always used to tell her like I feel safe in your energy so that was really what attracted me to her like I feel like I could be myself right were you saying I love you and stuff like that yeah I don't know who said it for no I said it first I don't mind I really meant that [Music] so things with Jamina were going really well and you guys were very close so after a while you must have felt like it was time to meet up right because you don't even live that far away from each other yeah I tried to meet up with that a few times the first time she was like okay I'm on my way I sent her my location and then I follow him and she said she had gotten a car accident damn I know and that's when my sister was like catfish catfish and then one time she really embarrassed me and I feel like that was kind of like the last straw it was about to be PV homecoming that was like gonna be my first year as a alumni so me and my sister we was coming to Houston and we was planning on trying to see what hotels was available but you mean it was like why y'all won't just stay at my house y'all can stay at my house so she text me her address and when we get there she was like okay I'm gonna open up the gate and then I didn't hear from him and then just nothing yeah wow and then my sister was like well let's just go then Jamina she tried to flip it on me and be like you wasn't outside you was playing you was lying you was trying to be sneaky you was not outside I've been calling you that's insane so after that I was so embarrassed I just stopped talking to her but I used to always think about her like we connected on a deeper level we could talk to each other like about everything under the sun and I really missed that I used to try to find her for a while but she had me blocked still so that's when I gave it to my sister and I was like text this and see if it worked and she texted and that's when she was like my sister want to talk to you she said she missed you she was like all right you can tell her to text me and then we just started talking on the phone it was just like old time every day we text each other and talk to each other and I really enjoy that because that's what I missed wow I just felt like a waste of time that's straight away to her all right well look Tam we gotta figure out what we want to do now because obviously the last piece of the puzzle is figuring out who Davina is and maybe even more importantly finding out how she actually feels about you we're waiting to see if Draya gets back to us but if we don't hear back from Drea then the only thing left to do is just Reach Out directly to Jamina and give her an opportunity to explain herself I feel like if I send her a message I'd said hey Tam reached out she wanted to meet you we've done some research we know that you haven't been totally honest and just tell her look you've got one chance to try and explain this to Tam and if you don't take this opportunity you're never going to hear from her again I don't even know if you should give her like an easy way out because she'll choose it she's not gonna hold herself accountable I think you should just be like this is me even we got Tam here get on like I'm reaching out on behalf of Tam in an effort to help her finally meet you I don't think you should even give her an inch like just get in Zoom like all right so I said hey Jimmy this is me from the show Catfish I'm reaching on behalf of Tam and effort to help her finally meet you we are in the zoom now join I'm sending a little link now all right it says it's delivered this better work damn I mean do you have anything in mind that you're gonna say oh oh hold on hold on sorry she wrote back she said why are you messaging me what do we have to talk about okay so I'm gonna say well I'm messaging you because Tam asked for my help she's an amazing woman and I don't want to see her get hurt is that okay I think that's good I'm just gonna start a conversation with her to see if I can get her talking a little oh whoa whoa she just sent a long message hold on Tam never told me she thought I was a catfish we've been talking a really long time even had breakup and she never expressed those feelings so I'm a bit thrown off guard by this and shocked I have to think about this I need some time I'll get back to you in an hour fine okay fine let's talk in an hour I feel like she's playing me I don't like that all right well let's take a break and we'll we'll get back in a little bit thank you [Music] well here we are waiting for Jimmy I mean it's like this is what she does right she says she'll meet you and then you show up and she doesn't if she needs to be coddled and handled with kid gloves right now fine all right so I said well if you pass up this moment you will have to live with that decision for the rest of your life [Music] I mean we're still waiting it's been it's been over an hour now [Music] [Music] it's been a while I've like gotten really comfortable it's been over an hour girl at this point if this is how it ends with Jermaine and just not showing up are you gonna be okay with that I just feel like it's still weird because I don't even know who I'm talking to it's weird wait she just texted me back huh she said I'm really sorry today is a horrible day and I just can't do this right now and I would like to be left alone for now oh she's typing you don't want to have to do this but if you guys keep pushing I will block the number okay okay at this point just leave it neef just leave it I picked them here and nobody feels sorry for you no no no no no no no bye no thank you she blocked you sorry Tam I know that's not how any of us wanted this to end but uh this is what she does this is what she does why should we be any different I still don't even know who I was talking to but it's cool I guess [Music] oh just got a text on the show phone [Music] remember that episode that we just filmed they just texted hey Neve this is Jamila I wasn't able to talk the other day but I can talk now is there any way we can zoom today I will definitely show up definitely show up I believe when I see it we'll see we better tell Cami all right text Cami just got a text from Jamina she says she wants to zoom you know hey what is happening well let's get Cam let me get Tam on here Tam jimino just texted me it looks like today might be the day don't get our hopes up I'm back in the zoom Tam and this girl on and off two years been talking but like they are tight she's jumping on now oh damn oh what's up y'all damn but this is my wife Laura hey Laura Hi how are you hey I'm good we filled her in a little bit on your on your situation yeah it's crazy it's a situation Tam I didn't listen listen I don't know what's gonna happen today I'm not getting my hopes up I don't know how you feel yeah I might get my hopes up neither well let's see if she shows up I'm gonna text her now I'm gonna let you guys wait it out good luck nice to meet you too all right yeah so y'all think she gonna really show we'll see no the thing is though Tam like you did have a really amazing connection with her and I would love for that to continue I just don't want her you around oh she said okay so fingers crossed she shows up which should be any moment now here we go oh oh hello Jamina is that that that's your name correct yes you can't get coronavirus through computers so if you want to take your mask off you're welcome I'm not okay well I'm very pleased that you chose to join us today obviously you know Tam correct and I'm Cammy is this Cami hi Cami so so the first thing that comes to mind for me is can you just tell us a little bit about yourself so so what would you like to know well you've been pretty hard to get a hold of so we do have some questions for sure is your real name Jamina no but I will buy I go by Medina at Amina where do you live um I'm in Milwaukee Wisconsin oh okay um I do nursing work um what else you like to know what what was stopping you from from talking to us the other day a lot going on that I don't want to discuss right now a lot going on well you're here now so when did this all start when did you create your fake profile like 10 years ago 10 years ago yeah wow that's a long time okay so I'm sure you then you've talked to a lot of women okay and have you talked to them for as long and as intensely as you did with Tam no we've probably been like a month but it's like okay when we can't meet up then they just like or we can't FaceTime they just you know but again you had initially been the one to say like if you can't FaceTime forget it and then you you were the one who facetimed her what would you have done if she had answered so it wasn't going to answer because I I do it's something you can do with the iPhone to make it not answers you just block the person oh you blocked the person and so when you calling them they won't be able to pick up wow submina do you consider that to be manipulating people there may be manipulation so do you feel like you manipulated Tamp I'm not sure I don't I don't think so because you did the same kind of thing to her so I guess well I guess that is a form of inflation so I guess that's what it is I don't know whatever man see I don't know I just feel I played well I'm trying to understand why you would either create a fake profile or be sort of nervous to or or avoid it was just something that I did like not even being serious about it like it was just something I was bored and I did it not even being really serious wasn't even taking the whole profile series just based on what Tam told us the relationship you guys have had and the connection that you've had seems to have been very meaningful and I just can't tell where you're at with with your feelings towards her and what do you feel like you and Tam are just like a really good friendship like a really good friendship to wanting to talk to like We Vibe like that like I really look at her like that well we saw a lot of the messages that you guys have shared back and forth and it doesn't just seem like something that you send to your girlfriends like it sounds like something you would send to your girlfriend it was bigger it was deeper and I feel like kind of took advantage of me a little bit because I was really broken you know I feel like you don't understand it okay so I guess it is I I have feelings I do I do it is it is I guess it's me just trying to say this to protect my own self but I do have feelings I feel like everything is alive you telling me to link up with you places and you knew you wasn't coming that's just I still feel like that I'm really embarrassed I feel like you embarrassed me I'm just worried that you don't truly care about town I mean are you in another relationship who texted Tam those threatening messages someone named uh Drea oh Jerry okay she's a friend so she's your friend and you had her send some smoke Tam's wife for no reason if she's someone that you really care about like why have her threaten her why I just wanted it to Ian at that point like I just wanted it for at that point I just wanted it to be over with just sit in and I apologize I truly am sorry like I was wrong I really really messed up something great I don't want to get emotional I don't want to cry so I'm actually like holding stuff back but I really would care I've never was able to be so open with a person I really wish that we could move forward and move on and like I told you I love you hmm we got an email from Eric hi and even Cammy my name is Eric I'm 29 and I live in Buffalo New York with my son I'm a full-time dad so I haven't been in any serious relationships for a while but I have been talking to this girl named lyanna for the past five months she friended me out of the blue she was really cute so I messaged her and we started talking she's super sexy but mainly a really good listener she actually cares about what's going on in my life I honestly haven't had a connection like this in a while so I was excited for it [Music] to me I fell hard for her she was everything I was looking for I tried to meet her multiple times but she stood me up every time I suggested we video chat if that hasn't happened either then her friends got involved and it was really weird this girl is making it impossible to get together or for me to move on she's a killer we're still talking but I need to find out what her deal is once and for all she's driving me crazy [Music] thanks for your help [Music] all right I've texted Eric it's the friend well yeah I mean anytime a catfish has a friend that comes into the situation you got to be suspicious I guess we have to find out oh oh I heard a ding hello what's happening how you doing Eric you you said you have a kid right how old is your kid he just turned 10 on the 10th wow he stays with you full time yeah me and his mom we co-parent very well she's very part of his life every day so we do it together that's great so we saw your email tell us more about the lyanna is that how she says it yes it is she's a hair stylist she's 24 she's from New Hampshire which matches her number because her number is a New Hampshire number does she live in New Hampshire does she live in Buffalo she lives in Buffalo she's been here about a year and a half now she told me how did you meet she added me on Facebook I went right ahead and messenger and she was gorgeous so like why not she messaged me back and said Oh I thought you were cute sorry so from there I knew I was in did you have mutual friends or anything we had a few like like 12 or something do any of your friends actually know her no I've asked okay so you did ask okay so you messaged her and then like what what how did that go probably within a couple days I had her number we started having phone calls and how were your phone calls they were actually pretty captivating like a lot of what she does is family orientated you know she grew involved with her family and I told her about my son told him about my work we shared some things about our lives with each other she had a way of like just making me think differently she really got into like me thinking about my future and what I'm trying to do and she's just very supportive I feel like she's a good soul I was easily able to connect with her and it's weird because you you usually I don't I don't even open up like to people yeah and it was a girl's voice yes yes it was it was a girl's voice for sure within about two weeks of talking to her I wanted to meet up the plan was for her to come over and then we're gonna go out to Delaware Park so she had your address yes and then poof just gone after like two hours of waiting she just blocked me but you guys did obviously start talking again so how did she come back from that what was her um unblocked me because she had reached out to me again saying she was sorry and giving me an explanation for what had happened something about her mom you know her mom was sick he needed to go over there and take care of that she didn't know her mom was sick before she made plans to come over exactly right so you guys start talking again was there another plan to meet up again yeah and what happened this time um you know she's getting ready we're good I'm like what's her ETA and she's like 10 minutes and then boom her phone goes off and I don't hear from her for like a week so she ghosted you again yes and yet somehow you're still involved with this woman that's where Maria comes into play that's lyanna's friend you mentioned Maria after the second time I blocked lyanna so about a week goes by I start messaging with this girl Maria online she messages you first no it was me I messaged her how did you find her I just happened to see her as people I should know and I I added it she immediately brought up lyanna and that and that she can't talk to me because she knows Leanne and she wouldn't do that to Leanne I mean if she's friends with lyanna it would make sense that she might pop up on the people you may know yeah she was trying to tell me to give Leon another chance it's weird had Maria friended you I would be like oh Maria and Leon are the same person but the fact that you friended her strange so what happened after that Maria said okay I'm coming to Buffalo I'm gonna bring Liana to you I unblocked Leanna and we made plans Mario's gonna drop her off at my house the day comes these girls are on their way and she says that Maria pulled over because she was fighting with her boyfriend so lyanna says listen I'm just gonna walk to you I went inside and I look both ways I didn't see her anywhere so I went back inside and then I didn't even call her and she didn't even call me wow so please tell me you have not talked to her since um she contacted me about a month ago and I kind of fell right back into it to be honest she stood you up three times yeah can you go back to your text messages and I just want to see how how you guys interact with each other okay you guys talk pretty often oh this is the last time she said I'm gonna come with Maria and we're gonna see you what is a good time for us to visit at four we can do something okay sounds good see ya now that's five o'clock already she's an hour late we are leaving in a few she had to tell her man where she was going and took him home I'm not flaking I'm actually excited I'll be there in like 25 minutes now it's 6 46 right down the street I'm walking I'm gonna hug you and wrap my legs around you and I'm not wearing underwear is this how she talks on the phone no you know what she she's not really like this on the phone so you were like where are you she said up the street you should see me walking but you would have seen her coming down the street yeah and then nothing she just disappeared for the night believable she obviously was never there that's how I feel something's definitely going on with this chick honestly if that's not her I'm gonna feel violated you know I opened up to you and like you you're who the hell are you wow okay well now I need to know oh here she comes [Applause] hello hello hi hi you're not the girl in the pictures and you're not Caitlin no so you don't know okay Lynn because your phone number traces back to her you know then is your name Tracy yes is that your real name yes and it's been you talking to Eric this whole time yes I made the account like at the beginning of the pandemic I was bored I wanted people to talk to but I was doing like I'm not somebody that was really trying to scam anybody because I really did feel bad you know which account are you referring to see the Leon account was Eric but I ended up switching to the Maria account because the lyanna account got too many too many requests I was getting like 400 requests a day and those are the only accounts that you have yes rude well look obviously we don't really know anything about you so can you just tell us a little bit about who you actually are hi I'm Stacy I live in New Hampshire I am actually 42 years old I don't know I basically like helped take care of my handicapped Uncle with my mother and stuff and my mom's sick too she's got Crohn's disease so I'm constantly helping them that is my life so I think I was trying to give myself a different life which was not obviously not reality and you're single you're not married or anything no children no I can't have children is that something that you want I want it all but I'll never get that why do you say that because I don't go out I don't go out to even meet somebody and I don't know just I'm insecure why keep doing things to hurt him like telling him you're gonna meet up with him and blowing him off and then blocking him and because I was being stupid because I really did want to see him but I I couldn't see him as me look we already talked to Danny one of Maria's boyfriends and Danny told us the same thing I'm coming down the street I'm five minutes away I'm two minutes away why even bother with that if you know you're not going to show up that is a game that is 100 a game you're actively making plans to see these guys in person and making it because they want to see you and then it's like I wanted to keep them talking to me so it's like okay I will come see you you know but you know it's not gonna actually happen so what is the end goal like what do you expect to get out of that I don't know I didn't I wanted to get rid of this I wanted to get rid of it so many times I was getting myself more upset and depressed even liking somebody because then I'm like okay now I'm waiting all day for somebody to call me and all that it was like a more or less lonely than I ended up started liking like especially Eric I ended up liking him when I was looking for somebody to be with like have that connection and vibes I'm sure you feel that way right now because it's all in front of you but like honestly I don't know heads from Tales of your stories except for that is all a lie okay even though you are seemingly very self-aware about different aspects of this I think that there are a lot of deeper issues that need to be worked out internally like woman to woman I just have a feeling that you've been going through this and feeling this for a really long time we need to shave off some of that insecure feeling because it's keeping you from being able to make true genuine relationships and even just a relationship with yourself because how do you honestly feel about yourself as a person not that good obviously I'm upset but like no one don't have to feel this bad about themselves that that they need to do this let's check out what we got oh we got an email the sender is just Michael well that makes it easy and the subject is love of my life or a stalker if you have to ask probably the latter hello King Neve and queen Cami this is how I want to be addressed finally my name is Michael I'm originally from Texas but I currently reside in Las Vegas back in 2017 I was contacted by a guy named Dustin who randomly messaged me from a number I didn't know he claims that we had spoken previously but I have no recollection of ever having spoken to him either way he was super sexy and zaddy he hit it off and we planned a date but Dustin's went ghosts [Music] since then I've been stood up by Dustin [Music] five times so why are we even still talking about this I've tried to ghost him but he keeps popping back up I still really like him a lot and I want him to be the one but I am worried this guy is a catfish he told me he doesn't have social media but I did some digging and I found a page he might be hiding something please I want to finally meet Dustin and date him for reals but I'm afraid something really weird might be going on Dustin could be the love of my life or a total stalker thanks Texas Prince Michael wow they met three years ago but he's ghosted him five times so that cancels out the three years so the first red flag for me I was in Los Angeles but Dustin decided that he would like to go on a date he wanted to meet up he says my roommate is out for the night so I wanted to know if maybe you wanted to come over to my house here's my address when he gave me the address there wasn't an apartment number listed it was just here's the address I then said to him let me know when you're ready no response and then I messaged him again what's going on no response after like two hours I just was like I'm good early the next afternoon he responds back and he says that he was in the shower and when he got out of the shower he dropped his phone in like his phone had broken and he wasn't able to respond he was like I thought you want to come over I don't know what happened and I'm thinking how was I going to come over when you weren't responding and I don't know your apartment like throw pebbles at every window right because of everything else prior and I felt that he had been genuine I let that go but after this incident you would communicate with me from other phone numbers Michael here's the thing I would go back to that initial number of messaging him and then he would respond on that too I'm thinking if he's a lawyer and if he does business maybe he has work phones obviously this is all via text message initially how if if in any way did the relationship evolve I've only ever texted with Dustin in three years I know I know I should know better well yes give it to me I deserve it I have to take responsibility when I did attempt to push for a video chat or getting on a phone he wouldn't respond like it was just always something odd do you even know his last name the last name that he gave me was shaker so where are you guys at now you say you ghosted him yeah but recently he reaches out again we can rekindle and restart and it's a new number in your email to us you said is he a stalker this has been years of you continuously reaching out after I've stopped responding to you you're hitting me up from different numbers that's why I say stalker because this is a little crazy I'm getting so anxious right now boom uh-oh feels like you guys are you serious yeah I know who this is I'm Michael's ex-boyfriend oh the whole time that he was talking to Dustin we were not exclusive the whole time Bradley that's one for you I created Dustin Michael is to test you we had just signed a lease in our apartment just a month before you were never around you weren't talking to me you wouldn't answer calls I had a gut feeling the whole time so I created Dustin to test you Bradley you and I yes did sign a lease to move in together we moved in as roommates I did not cheat oh okay you didn't cheat on me with Dustin oh after we officially ended things you agreed as well that you wanted to be friends and see how that worked out you wanted to be I never you said yesterday I'm not the bad guy here yes you are you created a profile lying to continue to keep tabs on me after you and I were not involved we were not exclusive Michael I loved you why do you think I got an apartment with you I thought you were the one oh my gosh I had already picked out a ring for you and everything yeah you did not love me you were such a liar obviously there's room for interpretation as to where things are going but at some point Bradley you became suspicious that Michael wasn't exclusively dating you it was about a month and a half to us living together Bradley when you and Michael signed this lease were you under the impression that you guys were going to be together in a relationship a billion percent boom all of a sudden he's just not coming as much anymore he always has something to do something so I decided you know to create Austin right it was just a test to see because I wanted to know where it was going because what Michael was saying and what Michael's actions they didn't meet up when I asked you where you were going obviously I knew you were going to meet Dustin when I set up the date as Dustin but you lied up and down to oh you're just going to meet your lawyer you're just going out for a dinner and everything you lied constantly about everything about who you were meeting what you were doing who you were hanging out with wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Michael is this all true I'm not denying that you and I had a relationship we were on at one point and after when we were off we also were off for long periods of time while you were living together even while we were living together we became often on from this situation mentally after I learned that he was just available to talk to other guys exchange nude photos meet out on dates I didn't send new photos um after I learned all of that I was gone I was done shortly after you you sent that text as Dustin how come you didn't just bring that up and and confront him about it and say look clearly we're not on the same page here I texted you as Dustin you were willing to talk to me let's figure this out why didn't it all end there why keep talking to him as Dustin because I understand you you would stop but then you would come back with a new number why continue to engage with him when the relationship appears to have been over earlier today Michael got a text message from an unknown number telling him not to meet you was that you looking for an easy out trying to avoid meeting up yes but at the end of the day continuing on is Dustin with him was just terrible oh terrible he's married married and has a has a relationship I don't know this guy that's not okay that's not okay that's the point I'm making we were in a relationship and you cheated we were not I did not cheat on you when was the last time that Michael and Bradley hooked up a few weeks ago what wow are you gonna call the Maury show or should I I didn't know he was Dustin if there's all this animosity going on how are we hooking up yeah if I'm such a bad person why are you still pursuing me and why in some weird Twisted way do you still love me not pursuing you at this time for quite some time okay can you both acknowledge that at any given point in knowing each other you've shared love for one another in some kind of capacity but now that moment has passed one million correct but now it now it's just time to be done with this it's probably not gonna get better so the the thing that we can do now is just move on I completely agree with those those statements absolutely if there's any any final thoughts or feelings that you want to express to each other now I've said my piece I wish you the best I hope you don't contact me any forward you broke my heart I want nothing to do with you ever again are you done go ahead Bradley I don't wish you ill I don't wish you well I don't wish you anything and we won't be seeing or speaking to each other ever again from this point moving forward all right well very rarely if ever does anything good come of catfishing so I just wanted to sort of leave it at that be well and stay safe and healthy thank you both thank you good luck guys bye thank you hi guys an email from April a-p-r-y-l the subject has it been four years of Lies probably yeah dear Neve and Cami my name is April I'm 22 and live in Montreal this is technically our first Canadian episode oh my God I met Daryl d-a-r-y-l their names end with the same three letters that's come on that's incredible meant to be he lives in Ohio and is an incredibly talented artist I met Daryl four years ago on Instagram when he sent me a drawing he'd done of a selfie I'd posted [Music] we were just friends but this past year I started to realize I want more no one has ever approached me the way he did or sent me so many sweet messages his drawings make me feel appreciated and beautiful Daryl makes me feel like a Confident Woman he makes me feel happy [Music] I had no reason to doubt Daryl and our relationship was growing but in the past few months some strange things have been happening first I got a weird DM from Daryl's sister that Daryl told me to ignore then his social media started to deactivate and then reappear I asked him what was going on with that and he said he needed to disappear for a while but wouldn't say why he's going to jail it all makes me nervous I don't have the best luck with men in general and I think of him as my one shining star thank you April Joyride I am going to put in my first guess and say that Daryl is in jail he's not in jail come on yes you think you don't have access to a pen and a paper to make drawings in jail you do and you can also get on Instagram their social media all right well let's text her it's been so long since I texted an international number it's me from Catfish just read your email jump in our Zoom April showers bring May flowers oh hello hey hey what's up look how beautiful I love the tattoo yeah thank you are you in school work work almost every day what do you do I manage a depender so convenience store for any non-french speakers oh my friend just trash so that's cool and so we read your email but there's not a lot of information in there we want to know the whole story and kind of give us the details so the first time Daryl ever made contact with me it was through Instagram the way he approached me is not how any guy usually approaches me like really sweet and not so direct and he had taken it upon himself to draw a selfie that I had posted so kind of nice kind of creepy a little bit because I had no idea who he was did he ever explain how and why he found you no in the first few years honestly it was just kind of like a little back and forth like any time that I would post a picture that he liked he would draw it and send it to me when it was done and I was obviously really appreciative but I would say it was more in the past year that we kind of got a bit closer and started talking more on a daily basis how many drawings would you say he did a view over the course of those three years around 10 15 I got to a pool started sending him like my favorite selfies and he didn't keep drawing for me here's Muse he does say that to me all the time he's like Jack and you're Rose draw me like one of your French girl oh have you sent him a nude to draw I've never directly sent him one but I do have and only fans which he is subscribed to so did he draw that he did ow has he sent any sexy photos of him no interesting why haven't you guys facetimed or something I mean I've asked it's kind of just been brushed off and I feel like if I push too hard he can just disappear like he has deleted parts of his social media in the past so it's really kind of a touchy thing he deactivated his social media a bunch of times what happened with that a couple weeks ago actually I went to go search up the page the page is just gone is that profile still down no in fact it usually just tells me she needed a break from social media okay that could be true but have you guys been texting I mean we text on Instagram but do you have his phone number I don't wait so for four years I've been talking just through Instagram and only fans yeah so you've never heard His Voice or seen him in a video no sting [Laughter] something's definitely up because like in your email you mentioned something about you got a weird DM from Daryl telling you to ignore another message what was that all about I had got a DM from somebody that I didn't know and it was just a Facebook link in the message so when I clicked on it it brought me to like some Facebook group and I saw in their followers that Daryl was one of them when I went and confronted Daryl about it he said oh you know that's just my sister ignore the message so did you respond and have you had any communication with sister no weird can I see a picture of Daryl I'm just so curious now yeah all right hold on I'm gonna bring him up on Instagram what's his Instagram it's their little art show is that him yes cool this is him right yes fits into my type I guess you could say what's this my dad in the paper wait a second so this is his dad allegedly this wait this was just a few days ago yeah huh is this you that is me oh wow oh boy is that you also that is not me actually do you ever get jealous when he draws other girls I mean kind of Loki I'm used to being the Muse you know so but even his like follower to following count looks normal like the page looks very if it is a catfish it's very convincing I don't know what to think yeah questions well what is it about this guy because I know you have other guys fawning after you so what is it about Daryl I mean it's really different there's not anyone who actually cares about how I'm doing he's just there every time I need it you know like the fact that somebody would spend so much time making drawings of me someone that they've never even met it's just insane to me you know he always says if I live closer I would be wifed up already so right now are you not looking to meet another guy because you think that something will happen with Daryl I mean yeah it was kind of the dream if it can be possible but kind of need to know so I can move on either with him still in my life or cutting him out of it obviously we don't have a phone number but we have an Instagram we have that picture he posted of his dad but send us whatever information you have let us see what we can find out hopefully get one step closer to finally meeting this guy hopefully all right we'll talk later April thank you oh she's sweet what do you think is this guy legit I don't know he could just be a boy artist in Akron who just has a couple different sexy ladies around who he draws pictures of they send him sexy pics and he's just not looking that's what I fear that's kind of the vibe I'm getting if he is legit maybe there's a chance it could work out and if he's not April needs to know because I don't want to see her get her heart broken exactly something tells me in my spirit that April is not the only one I am sweating yeah I'm really freaking out over here foreign what's up man hi what's up bro I don't believe it wait so hold on a second we're all very confused because you're obviously you show the show but when I dm'd you Candace wrote back oh yeah so what's up with that why is Kansas in your DMs all right she handles certain drawings like these handled what do you mean handled like the prices like she give them out the price of the artist so that's all she be doing in there but she's still in there oh only for the holidays I was super busy so I had her in there for November December just to handle these new commissions business art stuff that's it she don't be no messages from me April 9th that's just me I swear to God she seen me join you all the time she already know I don't go into messages don't talk to her stay out of that it's just it's just between me and her so you told Candace specifically if it's this girl April do not respond oh yeah it's a show foreign obviously you can understand right like I I messaged you and she wrote back and said oh that says Candace I'm on his page we thought April had been talking to your sister the whole time oh no I don't know well okay what's up with Candace messaging April on Instagram and you told April to ignore it oh yeah because her page is hacked she told me that because that page just sent random messages to people I don't know why it sent a link to a Facebook group that Candace started that's that page I hacked something you saw me as hacked she not she can't no access to it or something so she gotta submit a new Facebook huh so you're telling me that the only person who April has ever communicated with is you okay for sure that's that 100 how do you know that Candace never responded to April's messages since she responded to my message I trust her she's not going in there I would I would have shut all that down if she even sent one message I ordered it down all right because I'm the first one to see her messages I make sure I'm like oh she's messaging me all right quick every time it's me okay I'm happy to hear that what's then confusing to me is since it is you and it has been you talking April this whole time why so shady what why don't you give her your phone number or video chat or what's what's up with that I think she really wanted to talk to me like that I didn't even know that she was like feeling me at all to be honest even if I was drawing you whatever I could just be another creepy ass dude I know you got a lot of attention you bad so like I'ma come different a little bit with the art see if she like it or whatever right but but she did she liked it you guys have been friends now for years and and I think at least she feels that it's been made pretty clear that you're more than friends or it could be more than friends who I want to that's why I'm here [Music] so we we found that you do have a Facebook page but you're not friends with her on that Facebook page oh yeah I'm not any reason I want to be creepy I want to be a stalker I don't know I don't want to be weird I want to know you know you draw a lot of girls on your page like there's a lot of different people to choose I had to stop why is that because I'm in focus on it right now [Music] I mean April was like bursting at the scene so she's so happy and you look like you are too you're both nervous by the by the way he's in shock right now I haven't said a word in the past five minutes because I'm just in shock I don't even want her through okay what do you like about April so much well actually motivated kind of beautiful spot like I'm looking at like just like a dream right now but what has been keeping you from seeing her this entire time a lot I was going through it for a little bit money problems work was kind of slow because like Corona just couldn't stack up quick enough I can't get the can't do what I wanted to do I was getting depressed I think it's fair the last year hasn't exactly been the most ideal period of time to you know meet up with someone who lives right far away and in another country and I get that but crazy to me that you wouldn't have said like yo we should talk on the phone or just text on from your actual phone number why can't you have your phone number I thought about I always think about him I could say I didn't think she was going to want it so I'm like I didn't ask I just didn't well look I obviously would love to let you guys talk but before we do that I have some questions Daryl if I could chat with you Cam if you could talk with April for a second yeah all right okay no boys allowed oh my gosh how do you feel what do you think I have no words I almost cried when he pulled up on the screen like I was not expecting that and I'm So Into You When I met him I had no words I didn't know what to say because my brain just kind of went all I kept saying was you being like just try to make myself breathe with the oxygen slow through to the brain you know I'm just excited for him to come back in the chat now I don't know you're like get out of your camera I get it it's fine I feel like a little girl hey hey man what's up oh so this is great yeah I'm excited yeah it's just again you know I kind of mentioned it before but after all these years and talking to her pretty much every day and her clearly flirting like you didn't pick up on enough signals to say like okay I think this girl's into me she described it almost like you were avoiding her or pushing her away so it just seems like there's something you might not be saying I just want to make sure you don't feel like there's any weird pressure or expectation for you to say something or feel a certain way and that you really do like her yeah well I kind of understand why she felt like that because I kind of was pushing her away what do you think that was about at first I was like shy like I was I used to be like super I used to not be a little people in the eye I couldn't even make eye contact like a couple years ago okay but I'm hard on myself as you can tell already have you had like a serious girlfriend in in the recent past oh no I've been in in any relationships never kissed a girl oh really you've never been in love then I guess uh no not yet have you tried dating people have people wanted to date you or is it just like that happened I mean see I had chances but I kind of avoided all of them mainly just out of shyness and and insecurity yeah I haven't tried in a long time so hitting on women or asking a girl out and making your feelings known is not something that you have a lot of experience with you have no experience beside April yeah I really do like a girl right and she told us she really likes you she's super into you I didn't you didn't know that I didn't know that no I didn't okay that makes a lot more sense now well that's I mean that's exciting it is you think you can handle her yeah I can handle it here so I mean are you ready to formally sort of ask her to go out with you yeah I will I know I will because she's been hoping that something would happen with you guys so she's like I didn't I didn't even know that I know right you didn't realize that but April's a beautiful young woman and if she doesn't get the impression that you're serious about moving forward you know she might have to start looking for someone else today so I just want you to know that like you've got a chance to make something happen yeah I'm excited yeah all right well great I'd love to just let you guys talk for a minute if that's cool that's cool so I'm gonna bring them back in all right [Music] all right guys we just want to let you guys talk for a minute and April you let me know when a good time to kind of come back in would be okay all right see ya what's up this is so weird it's just crazy about like you're in front of me right now the second I saw you pop up on the screen almost cried like me too I was just so happy like it's like a real dream it's like I'm happy even though I'm nervous right now my anxiety is getting crazy right now but that's that's another thing though that's like I'm I'm super confident persona but like I'm a really insecure person like yeah I know I post a lot of nice looking pictures but like you don't really see a hundred percent of me you know like if there's a lot of editing there's a lot of posing in certain ways you know right I understand all that but you still don't even matter the UC fire anyway so I've been going for my whole life basically like kind of feeling I guess underappreciated by most men that I come into contact with you know it's like sexual right away it's like this was like you know yeah I'm different I say that I've been single my whole life I'm like yeah I'm about to get her we've been single your whole life yep never kissed a girl yeah I wasn't really interesting until like two years ago or like I won't hurt first date first kiss somehow you have me motivated you inspired me it's like a spark for some reason like I like I I get anxiety when I when I send you messages like I'd be nervous like I don't know I just got feelings it's like just something about you just had me like Stuck on You I don't even know what to say like since day one I've been in love for real I never been in love either but I know when I see you I get a feeling that I never felt before so but it's not oh my gosh like how are you real I don't believe this right now it's actually this is amazing I think I'm gonna tell them to come back before all right [Music] oh my gosh [Music] thank you [Music] so what do we miss everything good yeah everything good everything is great yeah I'm still in shock that it's not Kansas okay we were wrong me we were wrong so look this is you know rare for us on the show but all the more reason to celebrate and be happy and I just want to make sure that we all take one sort of formal step towards you guys now moving forward so at the very least you guys give each other your numbers so that like oh yeah please [Music] oh deliver I got it okay all right so we've now got phone contacts all right well this is great I'm I'm so happy this worked out you know I really think you guys have a lot in common you clearly have a good foundation of friendship and and respect for one another which you know is a great place to start so I don't know what to tell you guys other than get to it good luck have fun so who's going where Daryl are you going to Montreal April or are you going to Ohio like what is the he was the plan I'm leaving so you're ready to fly up there yep I got a ton of Frequent Flyer points so you tell me as soon as that could happen and I will make sure it happens today he's like tonight thank you guys so much for this yeah I guess that's it for us yep bye guys I can say that I only had [Music] any family my name is Terry I'm reaching out to you because my friend will has gone and lost his mind over a girl named Cherry he met six weeks ago on social media Sherry and Will are both into cosplay where people dress up as their favorite characters in comics or movies [Music] two will initially reached out to her because he wanted to buy some pictures of her dressed up as a character [Music] I guess that is a thing I think it's fun one thing led to another and now they talked just about every day Cherry lives in Thailand which is a red flag to be yes but it's also an added complication he says she tries to video chat with him but it's always in the middle of the night when he's sleeping I told will I was concerned but he's a grown man and can make his own choices but he's sending her money which is stupid to me but again it's his life what made me reach out to you is Will is suddenly saying he's moving to Thailand in this climate if this girl is real then I'm happy for my friend and I hope he'll loves life in Thailand but I know something is messed up here and he's moving too fast I think she just likes his money but will won't listen to reasons can you help me get through to him oh my God he set me up set you up come on in yeah what's up man hey how's it going yo you know you know who we are right yeah I've seen the show before Terry told us do you guys like to go to comic conventions when did you guys get into cosplay I host a podcast and in order to get exclusive interviews I had to start going to conventions but you know at those cons there's cosplayers everywhere and I also do videography and I network with one of the videographers but when I friended her my friend recommendation completely changed like no longer local people and I see Cherry in there one day I'm like whoa who's that she's cute she's pretty I friend requested her she added me and this is where we started kind of communicating she posted she was selling like these Polaroids so I bought like two or three photos from her and did you get them I got them when they came from Thailand it came from Thailand but I can't read the address you chose the photos you wanted or were you just like I said you choose the photo there was like nine photos up and I chose three so as the photos had already been taken interesting flag come on camera you can have my back I didn't even say anything it's Terry is speaking for me did you have to use her full name in order to send the money MoneyGram says it has to be the name on the ID and it was a different name that's on the Facebook okay well so what's her name on Facebook on Facebook is zomarie but so but she did give you her like ID Name ID name yes she said it's pronounced so wait so what's Cherry where'd you get Cherry from Cherry I'm assuming it's her English generic name interesting do you guys talk often or or we do it a lot and doesn't she have an accent at all well she speaks English yes and what are your conversations like I like you I want to see you you're beautiful we talk about Cosplay we talk about movies she compliments me and stuff I compliment her do you guys say I love you I've said it twice you said it once wow how long have you guys been talking uh I would say about two months maybe two and a half months like every day though pretty much every day except for when she when she vanishes vanishes after I send her the MoneyGram and she sent me the stuff the next day she told me she had to go to the hospital and I didn't hear from her for a couple of days why did she go to the hospital she said she had like flu-like symptoms flu-like symptoms and then the second time when I sent her some more money I bought a costume that I wanted her to cosplay in so I considered that she went to the hospital again come on Cammy stop I didn't even say it okay did she ever send you pictures of her in the costume no she hasn't but is that it or was it was there more things that have gone down I did send her money for another costume that of her choice and I did send her money you know like get something to eat one day since I felt like I can't romantically take her out on a date here's money to get you something to eat for lunch now you're thinking about moving to Thailand well I've already applied for my passport got the international driver's license I'm ready to roll man I ain't filming it either who she say she is but see I need Cami to have my back though because if it is her when women need help or they need advice who they go to the other women they become the board of directors so I need Cami to be on my side of directors oh you already have it set up okay I see can you show us a picture of her yeah oh here we go okay let's see all right oh hello Cherry wow cute wow she's yeah she's beautiful like yeah these are consistent they all look the same you guys send a lot of pictures uh this is the Polaroids I've received oh cute yeah from Thailand and what if the Cherry that you know is not the girl in the pictures does that matter uh yeah it matters this is both face live I got your back man I'm I'm rooting for you I think from what I've seen and what you've shown us like I am honestly leaning towards her being her right now I'm gonna be optimistic 60 catfish 40 per that's that's optimal that's a good those are good odds for this show all right so look just send us everything you have for charity okay and let's go down this rabbit hole and see what we find it I'm working I'll work on it for your boy I don't know I mean look of course red flags but I gotta say much more evidence suggestion she could be real than I expected he got photos in an envelope from Thailand yes people are crafting me I guess I don't put it past Cherry to be playing him but what is she playing him for what is the game can you hear me yeah tell is that beam take your time okay hi hi Cherry is that you under there what are you sure why are you so shy should we all do that all right everyone and then when you're ready we'll take them down okay one two three it's really you hi what's up this is her man hey Cherry I can't believe it I can't believe it I mean I didn't know if you were going to be I was just so happy this is so happy [Music] please please please I just were excited because this first time why are you so nervous to to see will because I don't want you to see my real face why yeah why you're so pretty it's doesn't seem my cosplay face because I can Photoshop a can do anything with my teacher in your photographs you have your makeup and you have your Photoshop but on video you look different but you're still very very beautiful yeah thank you very much but I think oh my God he would not like me like this I like what I see still look good very beautiful I'm very excited now my hand's shaking oh my God you had nothing to be worried about Cherry because he thinks that you're amazing but can you tell us more about you do you live alone oh with my parents with my father and Maya are you dating anyone in Thailand do you have a boyfriend no I don't have any boyfriends now yeah yeah do people call you Cherry or do they call you so everybody call me shuri but some some fans call me so Marie is my real now you taught me how to say it yeah you gotta teach me how to speak Thai so you want to speak Thai I'm willing to learn I'm willing to learn I want to ask you though Cherry you know Will has been very generous sending money for costumes and things like that I already tell him stop sending money for me but he still owe me like sure did you want something and I said don't send that money I have yes like that happy will Cherry is a strong independent woman so so this is nice though that finally you can can look at will and you guys can talk and see each other I have just a leading and comfortable because I think he said oh he's definitely staring at you he is definitely staring he likes to look at you she looks good man yeah she's beautiful [Laughter] will go ahead I mean shower it on I'm excited to see you um you know I'm coming to Thailand what's this whole Corona's thought the quarantine I'm gonna come see you now hopefully and soon will can come visit you um I I think I just um I want to talk with Tammy can I talk to you alone oh sure all right we'll we'll prevent you back in a minute all right don't don't take too long now no more men goodbye what's going on how can I explain it so I want to talk with you about me and real right I have a leading trouble with him oh he is very fast for me like when I don't answer his messenger like he always tried to call me a lot and I think oh my God is it too much for me but I always say to him please come down I'm busy I just wanted to take my time for my family like that last time you tell me about when you meet in Thailand can I hold your hand when we meet can I kiss you and I think oh my God it's really fast yeah I don't know if you know what it means to be thirsty but here in America when we say someone is thirsty it means they're just doing too much too fast and will is being thirsty sometimes you just need space and that's okay yes but do you feel like you like him that you could like him in a romantic way [Music] yes it's just not yet yeah friends first and then see where things go but take things slowly yes okay so we can help we'll tell him I don't think that um if you're worried about hurting his feelings I don't think that that will hurt his feelings I think it's important that you tell him exactly what you want so that he's clear and so that he's not pushing too hard who knows maybe when you meet him you might want to kiss him but it shouldn't feel like you have to yes oh hello he's back we kicked to the men out yes it is what did I miss basically will is doing too much he's being thirsty she feels like he's going too fast she wants to slow things down start up his friends she thinks she could maybe like him like that yeah but right it's too soon too soon okay so let's get will on and then we'll help him understand that he needs to just take it easy and calm down how do you say that in in Thai calm down all right so let's get will back in here there he is so will yes ma'am okay you know girl's perspective why talk to Sherry we had a little sideline Girls Chat and Cherry just feels like things are moving a little too fast she wants to slow things down obviously I shared with her that you're very excited about her and you really you know want to meet her and she and she feels excited about you she just wants to to make sure you understand not to put any expectations on how the first time you'll meet her will go just take it down a notch yeah and right now maybe just give her some space sometimes okay fair enough she would love to start with like a really strong friendship and see where that can go okay so it's good it's good yeah yeah right that's great yeah that would have been worse yeah I'm still in the game I'm not a little yeah so yeah I'm cool with it here we go you just have to slow down I like you so you don't have to think a lot of yeah I was thinking I'm staying here I don't go anywhere just come down I explained to her what thirsty means so if she calls you thirsty she knows what it means now okay all right well I'm so happy that we were able to help you guys seem great and I'm very happy for you so hopefully you'll just keep talking with a new understanding of each other and what you're expecting we go a little slow you know keep building planning maybe for a trip sometime in the future when it works for both of you and take this friendship and see where it goes I think could be really great I'm definitely on board make sure you send us a video from Thailand whenever you get there I definitely will I mean that's a promise will is looking up his tickets as soon as we get off of this yes thank you very much thank you bye bye [Music] [Applause] my name is Courtney 22 and I work as a home health aide in Ohio and well I guess I might be getting catfish three years ago I met Chris online I never have guessed this guy who lived in Turkey would turn out to be the love of my life but that's exactly what happened if Courtney can get a trip to turkey out of this she should take it Chris is an artist he's smart and he has the best taste in music anime and video games but our relationship hasn't exactly been smooth we've broken up and gotten back together so many times that I can't even keep track but we started up again this past November and it's more serious this time I thought that would mean Chris would start video chatting with me but nothing has changed try not to let myself think about the fact that Chris could be a catfish but I've seen your show if Chris is a catfish I'm not sure what that will mean for us but I can't just keep hoping for the best it's time for me to find out who Chris really is I hope you can help me support me [Music] wow three years I've protect our girl Courtney hey Courtney it's Steve we just read your email and want to help I don't want to get false hope that Chris is real but he could be real he could just be hesitant about the long-distance relationship right it's not impossible maybe he just doesn't like FaceTiming I don't know the good news is her eyes are open enough to know that something's up oh hey hi guys are you freaked out is it me be honest I mean I've always wanted to meet him just I didn't uh not like this I well I'm flattered and it's nice to meet you where are you in Ohio I'm in Canton your home health aide what does that mean I take care of people in their homes they're developmentally disabled wow it's a very selfless job good for you yeah thank you anyway tell us about Chris how did you guys meet what is going on okay well I love telling this story because it's very strange we met on Facebook but through role play fun okay I was on my role play account and the person that my character was with said Chris's character to try and kill my character and it didn't happen I ended up telling him that I had feelings for him and we ended up in a relationship wow all right so when you met Chris it was as his character yes eventually he sent me a cosplay picture of himself that was the only actual picture I've seen with his face in it and the other picture I have he's wearing a mask well wait a second you have now beaten friends with his Facebook account right yeah does he have more photos of himself on there nope it's mostly just his in three years you've only seen two pictures of him uh-huh you don't even really know what he looks like I oh my God can you show us the one picture you've seen of him I sure can he said it was a werewolf cosplay what are you talking about there's nothing werewolf about that he's not even in a costume did you want to see the mask sure yeah that's a mask So Courtney do you really think Chris is the guy in that one picture I don't know I would like it to be him because it is a very attractive person that he showed me sure what do you know about him personally he lives in isn't it turkey with his mom he to my knowledge is jobless he's an artist he does portraits anime characters stuff like that how old is Chris 22. so he's the same age what do you like about him he's got Amazing Music taste ninety percent of the Bands I listen to now is because of him same with animes that we watch I didn't get into anime until he introduced me anything that I'm interested in now is because of him ninety percent of my personality basically what oh he's in a completely different country has a whole different set of interests and like that's really cool but what is it about him that attracts you uh it's really hard to explain that I'd say it's just how he makes me feel I get it the connection that you have is very meaningful yeah do you guys only talk via like Facebook we eventually went to Whatsapp you talk on the phone I've only spoken to him on the phone once what was the vibe it felt like he didn't want to be on the phone it sounded like he would rather be doing something else it just didn't last long it was like a distinct male voice to me yeah it's not a male and did he have an accent yes I've tried asking for more calls and he said no it's really disappointing how can Chris justify not video chatting you over the last three years he's just always busy and he's giving me excuses like his laptop's too old and the time difference how do you know he's even in Turkey I believe he is he's shown me Turkish movies shows music did you know the Black Roses naturally grow there oh I didn't know that you've really Dove head first into the culture the horticulture uh yeah ever since I found out that he's from Turkey I love turkey a lot of times I would talk about wanting to go to Turkey to see him so just the idea of like planning that is something that makes me happy but I don't want to go if he's not real right have you sent him gifts or anything like that back in 2018 I sent him an Odin bust wait it's a mini statue and did he ever say he got this the bust oh yeah he sent me a picture of it oh so then okay so then it confirms that he is in fact in Turkey promising wow okay interesting and he sent me a gift that gray hoodie right there is a special hoodie it's his oh he sent you his his hoodie yes back in 2018 and it came from Turkey yes no money exchanges between the two of you uh I have sent money to his friend why did you send money to his friend so that she could give it to him how much over the course of three years I've said maybe around a grand Courtney that's a lot of money yeah party you see how this sounds who's his friend who is this girl it's uh edja and do you ever talk to her I don't does her cash app profile have a photo could you pull it up for us I used to have it but then it disappeared so she just wiped her page completely it it doesn't exist anymore I've tried looking for it oh Courtney so after all this shadiness you still have strong feelings how do you feel about him oh I'm in love with him he is actually my longest relationship really yes we were engaged once when was that 2018 what is that he sent me that picture so he sent you an anime picture of a guy proposing yes so that was the engagement yes and I went yes and he went that was easy wow I mean look he sounds really cool okay he's into cool stuff he's an artist and he lives in Turkey but come on the guy can video chat and he's had excuses not to for the last three years there has to be a reason for that that coupled with the fact that he's only ever sent you one photo and you only had one weird phone call suggests to me that there's a very very good likelihood he's not the guy in that photo I'm ready to get answers I have to find out if it's actually him or not real all right so look send us anything you've got let us do a little research and we'll see if we can figure something out oh boy what do you think my biggest concern is that Chris doesn't really care about her that much seems like he's a scammer or at least he's hiding something really big but it concerns me that Courtney is so invested that she's literally changing her favorite things to be his favorite things her personality has now become the things that are his favorite things and that is a slippery slope [Music] hi hello can you hear us if you can hear us maybe you could [Music] there is hi yes I can hear you I can hear everything sorry for being off camera and not talking I am not comfortable okay well hello I'm Cammy ve and Courtney hi hi Courtney please just talk without like robot sound I don't like my voice you have to say something eventually this is the voice I'm comfortable with Jay if that's you it's okay we're all open-minded here and Courtney is okay with that I am not an imposter I am not Etch A I am Chris [Music] uh uh I guess this is awkward now that you're talking your voice is great uh lines I guess [Music] so Chris so you you are in Turkey right now right yeah and are you also 22 right that's how old I think you said you were Courtney why don't you ask explain to Chris why this is even happening long story short this is what camera each other to you maybe it's not really easier for an introvert like me you've been asked for a call for three years though yeah but I guess it's kind of a limit when you bring in two strangers into this well listen even talking to us is a big step for you it was just as much of a big step for Courtney after you know three years of you guys talking it's been a long time and all she's wanted is like literally this moment right now yeah the thing is uh I don't like my voice and the way I look because uh even though I'm a guy I have a condition uh basically a hormonal imbalance which is why I sound like softer than a normal guy would and I have more like softer features so that's one of the reasons why I didn't even want to call because even my friends sometimes like pick on me for this thing yeah but but you know that Courtney's not one of those people Courtney is understanding and loving it's been like so long that even if I were comfortable enough to share myself with her it would be just kind of awkward for me well so what do you think do you just see her as like a cool friend that you talk about stuff that you guys both like together with obviously she's more than a brand [Music] oh Chris I think despite your insecurities you already know that you are a likable person even if you may not like yourself but you and I both know what you have to do right now it's time to come on screen to let Courtney see you well please okay hold on yeah that looks good [Music] there you are so the picture you sent her that was you yeah it was me well Courtney looking at Chris I'm going to bet that you like what you see yeah I'm so happy I see nothing but Perfection right here so it is so perfect I mean how does that feel Chris like this is the girl who you've been talking to for a long ass time and you guys are really cool and she doesn't care about any of the things that you're the most insecure about like she doesn't give about hormones it's nice I I am just nervous you know it's okay to be nervous the question that I have now is you know normally someone in your situation who is very private with their identity we just we would assume that you weren't the person in that picture since that was a picture of you why then didn't you at least feel comfortable sending other photos that way at least you could control the pictures that she sees of you that you like that you feel good about I don't feel good about any picture I don't like myself I don't like showing mostly yeah have you had a relationship a girlfriend in person in Turkey so would it be fair to say that physical intimacy is not something you're super experienced with [Music] because I know Courtney's probably ready to get on a plane tomorrow are you nervous about that kinda I mean like I will like it but I'm like really scared and awkward about it people don't like me you know you say that but I'm looking at Courtney and it's it's not adding up I only have two hands like I'm pointing at myself with all ten fingers I'm just saying I think that for once you could maybe give yourself permission to not think that someone doesn't like you because she does and you're trying to tell her she doesn't and she keeps trying to tell you that she does so it's about it hey Chris who is eche it is my best friend she's basically a family to me now because Courtney mentioned that she would send money and that it would get sent to eche yeah why didn't you just have Courtney send money to you because transferwise needs to have your address for sending anything and I didn't want to give out my address but you did give Courtney some address yeah she sent something to my dad's workplace so what was the money for turkey has been in a economic crisis for the past couple years so sometimes I will get too broke and I couldn't even afford to have food at some point so she would help me out and I can't really have a job because most places don't really hire me because the way I work in general because like this is a country where everyone is a judgmentalist well I think that they just don't understand you but I know someone who does understand you all right so how was it for you guys just now you feel good to chat and hang out it felt really great actually we were just discussing the places I would take her to a show wow very cool that's amazing you know this is a good start and I'm very proud of both of you for coming on here and doing what needed to be done thanks it is refreshing to see that you guys can now talk to each other Chris I think despite your insecurities you have a lot going for you and Courtney sees that we see that so hopefully this experience can be the beginning of just starting to feel a little bit better about yourself and a little bit more confident and I am excited for the two of you to continue talking and hopefully a trip to Turkey will be on the horizon and you will finally meet in real life someday soon yep testicle all right great meeting you and talk to you soon Chris bye thank you what do you think Courtney I'm so happy so like but finally always know that you deserve everything that you want it will come from somebody it could be him it could not be him and that's okay either way don't take anything less than what you deserve thank you good luck thank you yeah good luck Courtney image [Music]

Channel: MTV Catfish

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Length: 204min 4sec (12244 seconds)

Published: Sun Sep 17 2023